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Hamas does NOT want a ceasefire - Hamas wants a pan-Arab war against Israel

 
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Hamas does NOT want a ceasefire - Hamas wants a pan-Arab war against Israel
Israel Says No to Cease-Fire, Vows to Press Offensive
By Sonja Pace
Jerusalem
31 December 2008

[link to www.voanews.com]

Israel has rejected international pressure for an immediate, even if temporary, cease-fire five days into its offensive against Hamas militants and infrastructure in the Gaza Strip. Despite massive damage and a toll of nearly 400 Palestinians killed, Hamas also remains defiant, continuing to fire rockets ever deeper into Israel.

After meeting Wednesday afternoon, Israeli cabinet ministers decided against a French proposal for a 48-hour cease-fire to allow humanitarian aid to reach Gaza.

Deputy Foreign Ministry spokesman Yariv Ovadia tells VOA, the ministers studied several informal proposals and decided there was no one to talk to on the other side.

"We haven't heard anything from Hamas," Ovadia said. "On the contrary, what we've heard from Hamas was that they're going to keep firing missiles on Israeli cities and trying to kill Israeli civilians. Hamas started this atrocity and doesn't want to end it."

Israel has said it would allow a further 2,000 tons of food and medical supplies into Gaza. It has also given authorization for several dozen ill and wounded Gazans to seek medical treatment in Israel.

But for now, despite growing international pressure for a cease-fire, Israeli officials say they will press their offensive and they insist any cease-fire must ensure that militant rocket attacks against Israel stop.


Israeli war planes carried out further bombing runs in Gaza Wednesday, hitting Hamas government offices and underground tunnels on the Gaza-Egypt border. And, Israel continues to amass ground troops around Gaza in preparation for a possible ground offensive.

But, despite massive damages and rising casualties, Hamas too is maintaining a tough line.

In parts of Israel the sound of sirens has become a daily occurrence - the warning sounds of incoming Hamas rockets, striking ever deeper into Israel, including Beersheba in the Negev, over 40 kilometers southeast of Gaza.

And, Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum makes it clear the group is not begging for a truce.

Barhoum said what's needed immediately is for the Arab and Islamic countries to unite and stop this aggression, lift the siege, open the crossings and rebuild Gaza.


The militants have kept up their rocket attacks, hitting ever deeper into Israel. Rockets have hit not only town near Gaza, such as Sderot and Ashkelon, but also Ashdod to the north of Gaza and Beersheba to the southeast.
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Oops your article says Israel Says No to Cease-Fire in the title, now you blame hamas for rejecting a cease fire.
How conveniently truth twisting that is, lol ...
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You won't win any popularity contests on here posting stuff like that.

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Oops your article says Israel Says No to Cease-Fire in the title, now you blame hamas for rejecting a cease fire.
How conveniently truth twisting that is, lol ...
 Quoting: FF 456207


Oh - sorry! I presumed you would read the post before commenting!


How silly of me
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You won't win any popularity contests on here posting stuff like that.

:Popkorn:
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Obviously I don't give a half a rat's ass about my popularity among this bunch of half-wits..
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What Hamas (proxy Iranian fundamentalist muslims) want and what they will actually get are two entirely different things. The Pan Arabism died with Nasser 50 years ago while Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc etc have been pacified a generation ago. Hamas will be flattened like Hezbollah was in Lebanon in 2006 (contrary to what the media says). Note that Hezbollah haven't fired anything in support of Hamas at Israel. They know if they did they would be flattened! No.. time to clean the place up and that is exactly what the IDF is doing with full support of the USA and Europe. Just sit back and watch the fireworks.. Hamas's days are numbered and the Mullahs in Terahan know it..
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You won't win any popularity contests on here posting stuff like that.

:Popkorn:


Obviously I don't give a half a rat's ass about my popularity among this bunch of half-wits..
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat

You should give a full rat's ass about me, cuz I happen to agree with you.
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What's wrong with a war against 7 000 000 crazy Madoffs?
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You won't win any popularity contests on here posting stuff like that.

:Popkorn:


Obviously I don't give a half a rat's ass about my popularity among this bunch of half-wits..

You should give a full rat's ass about me, cuz I happen to agree with you.
 Quoting: SubarcticBeef


I'm talking about the tards - not you.

I should probably have phrased that differently..
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Why does Grizzled Old Goat support the rape, mutilation, and killing of innocent men, women and children? Is it the vicarious thrill that he gets? Or is it the financial gain that he gets from the promotion and support of it on a public internet forum.

To anyone who finds the above hard to believe, Grizzled Old Goat has thousands of images of Muslims suffering in one form or another that he will happily share right here on this post if you ask him to. He scours the internet daily in search for new images to satisfy his morbid appetite. He will tell you that this is true with pride. You don't need to take my word for it. He will admit all of this to you.
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You won't win any popularity contests on here posting stuff like that.

:Popkorn:


Obviously I don't give a half a rat's ass about my popularity among this bunch of half-wits..

You should give a full rat's ass about me, cuz I happen to agree with you.


I'm talking about the tards - not you.

I should probably have phrased that differently..
chuckle
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I should have known.
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You betcha Goat. They have decided to roll the dice and call the others incipid guarantees and HamASS will find out just what happens in this case. They don't get it, they don't get to roll the dice because they are the dice.
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Why does Grizzled Old Goat support the rape, mutilation, and killing of innocent men, women and children? Is it the vicarious thrill that he gets? Or is it the financial gain that he gets from the promotion and support of it on a public internet forum.

To anyone who finds the above hard to believe, Grizzled Old Goat has thousands of images of Muslims suffering in one form or another that he will happily share right here on this post if you ask him to. He scours the internet daily in search for new images to satisfy his morbid appetite. He will tell you that this is true with pride. You don't need to take my word for it. He will admit all of this to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 583536


Actually - AC retard - I OPPOSE the random, savage violence that Islam loves to infict on Israel, themselves, their women & children - and anybody else who opposes their perverse goals..


As for my "thousands of images of suffering muslims" I believe you have me confused with someone else..

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You won't win any popularity contests on here posting stuff like that.

:Popkorn:


Obviously I don't give a half a rat's ass about my popularity among this bunch of half-wits..

You should give a full rat's ass about me, cuz I happen to agree with you.
 Quoting: SubarcticBeef



Actually, I was agreeing with you as well....LoL
The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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You won't win any popularity contests on here posting stuff like that.

:Popkorn:


Obviously I don't give a half a rat's ass about my popularity among this bunch of half-wits..

You should give a full rat's ass about me, cuz I happen to agree with you.



Actually, I was agreeing with you as well....LoL
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As I now realise.
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You won't win any popularity contests on here posting stuff like that.

:Popkorn:


Obviously I don't give a half a rat's ass about my popularity among this bunch of half-wits..

You should give a full rat's ass about me, cuz I happen to agree with you.



Actually, I was agreeing with you as well....LoL

As I now realise.
 Quoting: SubarcticBeef


Then we're all agreed..



chuckle
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You won't win any popularity contests on here posting stuff like that.

:Popkorn:


Obviously I don't give a half a rat's ass about my popularity among this bunch of half-wits..

You should give a full rat's ass about me, cuz I happen to agree with you.



Actually, I was agreeing with you as well....LoL

As I now realise.


Then we're all agreed..
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat

That Hamas is nothing more than a cowardly group of fanatical terrorists that hide among their civilian population, and openly profess that Israel or anyone else that doesn't believe in their way of thinking should be destroyed? Yes. We're agreed.
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There is no reason for Hamas to stop this. If this is stopped then it would just go back to the people in Gaza slowly starving to death.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. If they can sucker israel into killing off most of the Gaza population then it would be the end of Israel. There would be no hiding it. The world would then understand how ruthless and evil they are. If the people in Gaza have to die then I'm sure they rather die as martyr than starving. At least their deaths would mean something then and possibly lead to something better for the ones that survive.

People should understand just how bad it has been in Gaza for over the last couple of years. They did a study and over half of the children in gaza had no dsesire to live any longer. dieing at the hands of the Israeli would be their choice.
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Well then, would Saddam and a nice friendly relationship and a nice Pan-Arab socialist SECULAR Middle East have been the answer to the regions problems.

IMHO, emphatically yes.

That window of opportunity is well over.
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Hamas defiant..


[link to ca.news.yahoo.com]

GAZA CITY (AFP) - Hamas vowed on Wednesday to fight "until the last breath" if Israel makes good on threats to send ground troops into Gaza after rejecting calls for a truce and pressing on with its air assault.


"We in Hamas are ready for all scenarios and we will fight until the last breath," senior official Mushir al-Masri told AFP as warplanes pounded Gaza for a fifth day and the Palestinian enclave's Islamist rulers hit back with rockets.


"Israel will embark on a veritable adventure if it decides to invade Gaza. We have prepared surprises for them," he vowed.


In a defiant televised speech, the head of the Hamas government, Ismail Haniya, vowed Israel would be defeated.


"Our people will defeat those tanks," he said as Israeli media speculated a ground offensive could be just days away.
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You won't win any popularity contests on here posting stuff like that.

:Popkorn:


Obviously I don't give a half a rat's ass about my popularity among this bunch of half-wits..

You should give a full rat's ass about me, cuz I happen to agree with you.



Actually, I was agreeing with you as well....LoL

As I now realise.


Then we're all agreed..

That Hamas is nothing more than a cowardly group of fanatical terrorists that hide among their civilian population, and openly profess that Israel or anyone else that doesn't believe in their way of thinking should be destroyed? Yes. We're agreed.
 Quoting: SubarcticBeef


Agreed. Can't argue with that.
The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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There is no reason for Hamas to stop this. If this is stopped then it would just go back to the people in Gaza slowly starving to death.

 Quoting: Rota

rolleyes

They were NOT starving to death - don't be such a hopeless sheep. If you think that Hamas was pursuing the best outcome for IT'S CITIZENS by lobbing explosives into Israeli civilian population centers - then you are as perverse and idiotic as they are..

:gnots:
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and I hope it works...and they solve the "problem" IsraHELL creates by being in the ME...by turning it into a sea of glass when someone drops a bomb on their 400 nukes
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There is no reason for Hamas to stop this. If this is stopped then it would just go back to the people in Gaza slowly starving to death.


rolleyes

They were NOT starving to death - don't be such a hopeless sheep. If you think that Hamas was pursuing the best outcome for IT'S CITIZENS by lobbing explosives into Israeli civilian population centers - then you are as perverse and idiotic as they are..

:gnots:
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat



No matter how much you 'butt heads' (pun intended) with some people.....they refuse to see common sense, I'm afraid.

Oh, well.....
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I feel dirty even commenting on this....the OP seems out of place among truth seekers, maybe he'd prefer the Fox News messageboards more

It also explains the massive anti-christian sentiment here...I always wondered how people here can hate jesus so much? now I know

as for the article, it's shameless self victimization...pathetic...Gaza has been blockaded for months...

imagine if over 300 Israelis died over the last few days? imagine the uproar?
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They were NOT starving to death - don't be such a hopeless sheep. If you think that Hamas was pursuing the best outcome for IT'S CITIZENS by lobbing explosives into Israeli civilian population centers - then you are as perverse and idiotic as they are..
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat

Hamas is no more looking out for the interest of its people than the Israeli government is looking out for its people. In the long run the Israeli people will pay a steep price, arma always comes back to bite people in the ass.

Not sure what you have against Hamas. They are only following the GOG theory of "might makes right". "Do onto others before they do onto you".
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They were NOT starving to death - don't be such a hopeless sheep. If you think that Hamas was pursuing the best outcome for IT'S CITIZENS by lobbing explosives into Israeli civilian population centers - then you are as perverse and idiotic as they are..

Hamas is no more looking out for the interest of its people than the Israeli government is looking out for its people. In the long run the Israeli people will pay a steep price, arma always comes back to bite people in the ass.

Not sure what you have against Hamas. They are only following the GOG theory of "might makes right". "Do onto others before they do onto you".
 Quoting: Rota


Not sure what I have against Hamas?

Well Sir - I'm dead against any person or organization that seeks to murder innocent civilians to further their political ends. Hamas sends those rockets up praying to Allah that they find their mark on top of a nursery school..

As for your "might makes right" idiocy - Israel is acting ENTIRELY in self defence - even if you don't like the outcome. You might want to reconsider your blind support of a group of hate-filled lunatics that care less about their own people than you do!

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All suffer the consequences of their actions. Nobody can escape cosmic law. The man that shoots the gun carries the karma.

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I feel dirty even commenting on this....the OP seems out of place among truth seekers, maybe he'd prefer the Fox News messageboards more


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Who the fuck are you?

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