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Hitler's Antarctic Base Revisted

 
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After reading the SS Brotherhood of the Bell and Jim Marrs recent book The Fourth Reich I looked into the possibility that Hitler had escaped to a secret base in the antarctic using a double to stage his suicide in Berlin.

The 1938/39 Nazi expedition to the Antarctic was a photoreconnaisance of Queen Maud Land in East Antarctica which borders the South Atlantic. The expedition overflights revealed an area of freshwater lakes and apparent vegatation near the antarctic coast which we now know as the Schirmacher Oasis. Its an attracive idea to think that this area represents a lush tropical envirmonment in the midst of an otherwise hositle frigid environment, but that turns out not to be the case. It is actually a number of small lakes that are present in a dry valley area near the coast that apparently goes without ice cover during the arctic summer which is when the 1938/39 mission took place, but, the same area is completely covered with snow and ice during the antarctic winter, at least thats how it appeared in the Landsat photos of the area I viewed. There is apparently no geothermal heating of the Schirmacher oasis as originally conjectured, but it is a coastal phenomenon that also occurs in other parts of the antarctic.

There is another "oasis" called the Untersee Oasis further inland which is a large under ice lake and the Japanese have a research group going there. It is a minature verision of Lake Vostok, not as deep but likewise completely covered with ice.
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I think I took the following from "The Omega Files":

We will now examine the various claims of Nazi bases in Antarctica......Various scientific teams were moved in to the area, including hunters, trappers, collectors and zoologists, botanists, agriculturists, plant specialists, mycologists, parasitologists, marine biologists, ornithologists, and many others. Numerous divisions of the German government were involved in the top secret project. ..........

As for Neu Schwabenland, the construction and secret projects in Antarctica continued throughout the entire course of the war. ....

The major base-city of Antarctica became known as the NEW BERLIN, or by the code-named "Base-211". .....

The June, 1952, issue of "The Plain Truth" is headlined: "HITLER 'May Be Alive!'" The article states: "Now, NEW FACTS, or purported facts, leak out. It's reported now that in 1940 the Nazis started to amass tractors, planes, sledges, gliders, and all sorts of machinery and materials IN THE SOUTH POLAR REGIONS -- that for the next 4 years Nazi technicians built, on an almost unknown CONTINENT, Antarctica, the Fuhrer's SHANGRILA -- a new Berchtesgaden."

The report says they scooped out an entire mountain, built a new refuge completely camouflaged -- a magic mountain hide-a-way. The recently discovered continent is larger than Europe -- 5,600 miles from Africa, 1,900 miles from the southern tip of South America, 4,800 miles from Australia. .........

The Jewish writer Michael Bar-Zohar in "The Avengers," p. 99, said: "In 1943 Admiral Doenitz had declared: 'The German U-boat fleet is proud to have made an earthly paradise, an impregnable fortress for the Fuhrer, somewhere in the world.' He did not say in what part of the world it existed, but fairly obviously it was in South America."

I remember hearing, in the 1950s, rumors that Hitler had escaped to a secret Nazi base at the South Pole. In 1952, Dwight D. Eisenhower said: "We have been unable to unearth one bit of tangible evidence of Hitler's death. Many people believe that Hitler escaped from Berlin."

When President Truman asked Joseph Stalin at the Potsdam conference in 1945 whether or not Hitler was dead, Stalin replied bluntly, 'No.' Stalin's top army officer, Marshall Gregory Zhukov, whose troops were the ones to occupy Berlin, flatly stated after a long thorough investigation in 1945: "We have found no corpse that could be Hitler's."

[link to www.theforbiddenknowledge.com]

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The Cambridge polar scientist Summerhayes has written a scholarly debunk article of the idea of a Antarctic Nazi base

[link to www.scribd.com]

which persuasively debunks any notion that Hitler could have been taken to the base by U-boat as some aithors have suggested. The coastal ice in thckness and extent would have been sufficient to prevent any then known U-boat technology from reaching the antarctic coast and even if they did they would only have found a barren frozen wasteland as the Schirmacher oasis would have frozen over.

The only possible location for a Nazi base in Neu Scwabenland which is what the Nazi's called their claimed area (the English call it Queen Maud Land and the Norwegians who originally claimed the area call it Dronning Maud Land) would be in the Muhlig-Hoffman mountains or the Wohlthat Massif. This is a mountain range located about 200 miles inland from the antartio coast in the German claimed area. The peaks of these mountains are about 10,000 feet rising from the coast. Their peaks poke out above the snow and ice in summer and winter being called "nunatuks" as the general descriptive term for the rocks that extend above the antarctic ice.
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There is no known geothermal heating in the area so any thermal system would have to be entirely made made. It is generally not possible to make any long term base in the ice itself because it moves and melts and refreezes. I believe the US military tried to nake an underground nuclear powered base in Greenland and had to abandon it after a couple of years because of the ice shifting and the problems experienced at US base camps in the antactic are well known.

Thus, the only possible base would be one inside one of the mountain peaks similar to the Norad facility at Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado Springs.

But how could the Nazi's get to such a base mcuh less supply it with men and materiel? One possible method is the unusual Heinkel plane of which 40 were discovered at a base in Norway.

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It had a 7000 mile range and was ostensibky built to carry atom bombs to be dropped on the United States. Two refuelings would have been required for a round trip to antarctica - one on the way down and the other on the return trip. Slave labor to construct the facility, supplies and secret miracle weapons could have been transported with the alleged VRIL saucers providing the escort.

Once it became clear to Hitler that there was a real possibility of losing the war, say 1942 or 1943 VRIL reconaissance of the Muhlig-Hoffman range could have been instituted seeking an approriate location or natural cavern that could be exploited. A landing strip could have been constructed and the facility excavated and supplied over the intervening two or more years to make the base ready for the possible arrival of the Fuhrer after his double was assinated to look like a sucide (Hitler requested that his entourage wait ten minutes before entering the room where he allegedly commited suicide). A sort of Nazi continuation of government facility like the one located at Mount Weather in the US.

What of the Byrd mission with a full military armada in 1947, called operation Highjump. By that time the landing strip and any associated facilities could have been dismantled and the antrance camofaluged so that all trace of the facility was removed and taken underground. Byrd may have encountered VRIL recon craft that would be tracing his progress toward the area. But that would be all he would have encountered. Perhaps the British, who had many bases in the area observed the activity and knew. Maybe that was why Byrd alleged called for the nuking of the base after his return.
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Hi been doing research apperantly there was a military base in the antartic near the warm water lakes,ive got a general arrangement drawing dated 1942 that according to my "Military History Source"is authentic in the sense that it corrosponds with what is evident now via google earth and my own inhouse digital enhancement software,so yes there was now the question does it exist yes?or no?