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Effexor XR - Weaning Off - Side Effects with Marijuana etc.

 
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Hello,

I have been on Effexor XR for about 3 years now. I have also recently gotten ahold of some weed to smoke. I drink beer on occasion as well. Though not as much lately.

I am wondering how these two substances interact with Effexor and if I should try to take myself off Effexor or stay on it. I don't have depression anymore so it is working but i'm wondering if weed might be a substitute or if Effexor is even needed anymore. If I were to go off it would my brain eventually return to the depression causing chemistry?
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You have to wean yourself off Effexor to avoid the brain snaps and pops and psychotic episodes. I'd try it 1/2 dosage at a time (1/2, 1/4, etc) whatever you think YOU"RE brave enough to try. maybe 3/4, 1/2, etc. Just don't go cold turkey and be prepared to stay on an intermediate level for a while.

Effexor can be some bad shit.
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double the Effexor XR smoke three jays but drink a fifth of jack first. come on man

really just pick only one better that way i would get rid of the man made brain chem for sure
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I tried for 2 years to get off effexor.... those brain zaps suc , they are no fun.

HEres what I did, I went down to lowest dose..37.5 or something like that. I stopped that, but next day started cymbalta, stayed on it for 30 days and stopped that. No feeling funny or brain zaps. I guess the cymbalta countered the side effects of going off effexor. Worked for me though.
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I was on Effexor for a couple years. I did wean off of it slowly but didn't have any withdrawal symptoms.

Now, if I'm feeling down I take a magnesium supplement called Calm. It works great.
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Get off the pot!
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We used to "wean" people off at "the ranch"- long story---but when they came in we gave them the first week-75% of their meds dose. Period. Then the second week if they were still there, we gave them 50% of the dose they were prescribed, then titered down to 25% the 3rd week. By week 4 they were "weaned off" whatever they were on.
As far as supplimenting pot or substituting it for Effexor....be careful, why on earth do you want to do that? Psych meds are very specific and can have all sorts of side effects. If you want to quit them, wean off gradually, it is better to have a medical specialist like a psychiatrist help you.
Stay off pot till you are sure you are safe....good lord....
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I was on Effexor for a couple years. I did wean off of it slowly but didn't have any withdrawal symptoms.

Now, if I'm feeling down I take a magnesium supplement called Calm. It works great.
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If you feel like magnesium works, it means you feel well to begin with and give a false report, because magnesium has no psychoactive properties

E.G. if someone is in bed with depression and takes magnesium, that person stays in bed and feels just as bad

its only a person who is manic, a False-Depressive, that would give a false placebo report that magnesium works

same is true for many other drugs and supplements

very few things have true activity, such as Opioids or Cocaine.
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To put it in other words:

Those who report Prozac, Homeopathy or Magnesium helps depression are those who dont really have depression. Those are people who feel pleasure to begin with

Thats why when you give those things to someone whos complaining of "extreme torture" cannotwork at all, and is in bed a lot, the person says "This has no effect, i dont feel any pleasure or energy from this, i dont know what you are talking about"

its because there is false-depression / placebo tards and true depression / people complaining of heavy suffering and torture.

the false-depression ones act as a disinformation parasite.
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Wow I left this out there and had to go crash but I thought I might get a response to do with Effexor + Pot or Alcohol or something. Supposedly Effexor can make the pot cause you to be more paranoid or something but im not really sure. I'm just wondering if they have interactions. When I smoke I don't drink and vice versa but the Effexor is there always.
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Im taking the XR 75m
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Im taking the XR 75m
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I wouldn't smoke the weed. From personal experience, (and this is when i was an everyday user of MJ), I smoked about a week after starting up Effexor... and immediately had a HORRIBLE panic attack and/or blood pressure spike... I'm not prone to physical panic attacks at all. I almost called 911 but figured I'd rather just die than foot a hospital bill which I had no money to pay with... the effexor was free samples..
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Im taking the XR 75m


I wouldn't smoke the weed. From personal experience, (and this is when i was an everyday user of MJ), I smoked about a week after starting up Effexor... and immediately had a HORRIBLE panic attack and/or blood pressure spike... I'm not prone to physical panic attacks at all. I almost called 911 but figured I'd rather just die than foot a hospital bill which I had no money to pay with... the effexor was free samples..
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Oh yeah... and I also know this is not an isolated incident. Google effexor and marijuana... or go to erowid look at Venlefexanine or however you spell it...
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I had a horrible experience withdrawing from effexor back in'95. It was before they realized the terrible side effects so none of my doctors believed me or took my symptoms seriously.


That shit is poison. Go slowly.
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actually I did notice my heart rate increased a bit after taking a few hits last week. I take comudin as well which is a blood thinner due to having an artificial heart valve. I'm pretty out of shape too so my heart tends to beat fast if I exert myself a bit like climbing steps. I'm probably playing with fire and should lay off the smoke entirely to avoid rising blood pressure or overstressed heart.
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actually I did notice my heart rate increased a bit after taking a few hits last week. I take comudin as well which is a blood thinner due to having an artificial heart valve. I'm pretty out of shape too so my heart tends to beat fast if I exert myself a bit like climbing steps. I'm probably playing with fire and should lay off the smoke entirely to avoid rising blood pressure or overstressed heart.
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Here is what I would do:

1.) Buy a vaporizor, you can get a cheap one on eBay for about $90, or just go get a decent one ($200-$500).
It will save your lungs as it does not "ignite" the weed, it just vaporizes it and you still get just as high (trust me on this - I don't buy stuff for no reason - it's worth it).

2.) Take 3/4 dose of Effexor XR for 1 week and make a doctor's appointment towards the end of that week. Taking Effexor XR without serious depression is like taking a missile launcher on a deer hunting trip. Instead, talk to your doctor about getting on something more like a "light anti-depressant". Like maybe 10mg a day of Lexapro or Celexa.
That way you aren't going to have serious SSRI withdrawls and your also not taking a huge amount of medicine for no reason.
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Effexor is some serious poison, I would try to get off that shit for good if I were you.
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Effexor amongst other things is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor...

This means that it prevents your body from reabsorbing extra dopamine... (it tries to keep it in your brain longer to keep you happy)

Pot just so happens to boost your dopamine levels when you smoke it..

Because your body won't be able to reabsorb or balance out all that extra dopamine you made from getting high you could go into a seizure...

So I'd be damn sure that shit is outa your system before you go hitting a bong toke ;)
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



Good point Trinity!

While I personally feel it would take quite a large amount of dopamine to create such a seizure (heroin, cocaine, etc), I would mention that the other anti-depressants I recommended are SSRIs and not subject to the same issues as NDRIs like Effexor.
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Consult your doc for proper doses to ween yourself from the anti-depressent. Otherwise, it could and probably will have a horrible rebound effect on your body.





Hello,

I have been on Effexor XR for about 3 years now. I have also recently gotten ahold of some weed to smoke. I drink beer on occasion as well. Though not as much lately.

I am wondering how these two substances interact with Effexor and if I should try to take myself off Effexor or stay on it. I don't have depression anymore so it is working but i'm wondering if weed might be a substitute or if Effexor is even needed anymore. If I were to go off it would my brain eventually return to the depression causing chemistry?
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listen, lol i am a 19yr old female and i have been a daily pot smoker for about 3 yrs now, jus got put on effexor and all it rly did was make my heart beat a lil faster when i mixed them, if u jus calm down n u were truly a pot head ur body would b mad used 2 the THC by now so it would have almost no effect nemore so it rly didnt make me panic or hear voices lol ur all jus a bunch of pussy wanna be pot heads lol build ur tolerance and then mix drugs lol cant mix b4 ur ready haha. it was entertaining to read all ur "horror" stories tho.
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"Justchillen420" - you're a tool.

Effexor XR effects everyone differently, as does marijuana. It has nothing to do with who is a "true pothead" or a "pussy wanna-be" - you twit. Grow up, stop listening to ICP, wash your hair and stay off of the internet.
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effexor is garbage, just like all SSRIs. they make you into a emotionless zombie pussy. i was on it for 6 months. i dont blame you for trying it though. stop procrastinating, and exercise. that is the key to overcoming depression. if you want to take something take fish oil and vitamin d. if you are not a procrastinator and already exercise 3 times a week then i suggest a MAOI instead of a SSRI. im not a doctor but i have been in your situation. weed is good for you but dont get addicted. more than 3 times a week and you will be addicted. dont tell me its not addicting it is a dopamine dump every time you smoke. It is the same as cocaine in this regard. good luck you're going to need it considering the world we live in. rant
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I've heard experts on radio shows recommend you take at least a year to wean off Effexor. A woman who was on Rense a few nights ago has a book and CD all about it.

Many people say that Effexor is for life, because it disrupts normal serotonin and dopamine. I read a whole website of people who said you practically have to shave a few grains off the pill with an emery board, stay at that dose for a month, shave a little more, etc.

Please do some serious research. My own sister melted down a few times when she tried to come off too quickly--she was in a hell world and didn't realize it was her own brain chemistry. I think I found a whole chat room just for people coming off of it--look around.
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TAKE Fish OIL capsules... square bizness here ... the only thing that helped me and MANY others to get off the effexor brain zaps... do a google man... effexor withdrawals are HORRENDOUS...

Fish Oil has been known to help big time !!!!!!!


Do this bud and good luck my freind !!!


fish oil was found to help originally from patients that were hospitalized in psych centers from withdrawal symptoms...!!!! The head shrink on a wim said lets try dosing with fish oil and It WORKED !!!
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To wean off the effexor, try a combination of Zoloft and Wellbutrin. Both are much easier to stop taking, and they'll really diminish the symptoms of Effexor w/drawal, which is a bitch--as you know.
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Effexor amongst other things is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor...

This means that it prevents your body from reabsorbing extra dopamine... (it tries to keep it in your brain longer to keep you happy)

Pot just so happens to boost your dopamine levels when you smoke it..

Because your body won't be able to reabsorb or balance out all that extra dopamine you made from getting high you could go into a seizure...

So I'd be damn sure that shit is outa your system before you go hitting a bong toke ;)
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


are u seriuos ive been taking 350 mg of xr for 4 years . i smoke pot all day everyday for the last 4 also .no seizures lots of brain zaps lately though ..wtf
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He smoke pot and eat effexor and he be ok ->tard
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He smoke pot and eat effexor and he be ok ->tard
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sometimes when i get real good pot itll wack me out my arms move around uncotrollably FUCK TARDonce i fell down .would like to qiut the efexor but im scared to
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He smoke pot and eat effexor and he be ok ->tard
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sometimes when i get real good pot itll wack me out my arms move around uncotrollably FUCK TARDonce i fell down .would like to qiut the efexor but im scared to
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sorry NOT GONNA QUITE THE WEED
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effexor, celexa, and lexapro are probably 3 of the most dangerous phenylethlamine's (amphetamine derivatives) out there.

i would rather take my luck on some unregulated shit made in someones bathtub off the street.

effexor is more potent than meth from all perspectives. in the past, i have actually given it to meth addicts fiending who couldn't afford their shard. in 3 days or less, they all came back, threw the shit (what was left) in my face, shaking, hallucinating, completely delusional, saying they NEVER will take that shit again.

its the fucking devil. i had a dr put me on it when i was 15, when it first hit the market, and i tried to kill myself to make it stop within the first 12 hours. thankfully i had a friend hand over 20mg of xanax out of love, which after almost 2 days later, finally put me out of my misery.

i havent never seen a single functional person, or a person with anxiety, who could sustain that shit and come out right - if not dead. ive only seen a couple of seriously depressed people who outright tolerated it, jacked the fuck up, but they remained permanently changed. moreso a permanent psychopath.

everyone else i know has committed suicide on it. i just had a friend from school commit suicide a month ago, had only been on it 1 week despite everyone's warning. overdosed on downers in attempt to make it stop.

i really feel for you people on that shit.
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Effexor amongst other things is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor...

This means that it prevents your body from reabsorbing extra dopamine... (it tries to keep it in your brain longer to keep you happy)

Pot just so happens to boost your dopamine levels when you smoke it..

Because your body won't be able to reabsorb or balance out all that extra dopamine you made from getting high you could go into a seizure...

So I'd be damn sure that shit is outa your system before you go hitting a bong toke ;)
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


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