STRANGE VERY BRIGHT STAR LIKE THING.

How bright i had not measured, it was a subjective appreciation... but i had observed it many times before. It seems that its albedo has increased in the last years and months, there are some science news over there suggesting this. There is also a lot of speculation, of course.

Venus was supposed to be about 6 degrees north from the ecliptic following my newer astronomy program... which either could not be the case because the geometry which takes in count the distances/positions between the involved objects makes for less than 3 degrees. That is the usual tilt/inclination between earths orbital plane (ecliptic) and venus orbital plane. I measured the angles with a telescope's help and with compass. It was somewhat too north.

Now please explain how the geometry can make for this. Of course a well done graph will help more than a stellarium whatever. There are other weird phenomena going on, they are weird just because they had not been explained thoroughly... but that you would have to find by yourselves. Most interesting thread> "Earth Expansion Tectonics / Theories after the facts." Explore.

Best hopes for a better world ; )

A Scientist who Cares

It really amazes me everytime someone takes pictures of a "double" sun someone always shows saying it's a lense flare. Did you actually ask the person if they saw a double sun before they started clicking away?



I really like the picture of this sun. :D

[link to www.youtube.com]

It would be interesting to look the SOHO images, of course... but they are just third party handed to us, nevertheless. BTW, it was outreageous for the stanford's site to mess up and even remove the images showing extreme solar activity on the farside of the sun about mid february 2009. Ridiculous... at least people should be allowed to observe, it is already enough with no acknowledging so many great things that are going on and misexplaining. Chao ; )

"If Venus does indeed traverse across the Lasco C3 field of view from 27-29 March, starting near the very top of the cameras field of view, and moving left to right, will you agree that it is not 'mispositioned'?" quote

+ When it passes, if the apparent/observed angle fits the expectable one (less than 3 degrees)... i will agree that SOHO information would be showing Venus in a correct position. Soon enough we would be able to measure it directly on the mornings.

Right. Venus wasn't where it was supposed to be but out of all the astronomers and stargazers all over the planet it was only noticed by the Scientist Who Cares But Can't Spell.

Have another yellow flag:)

1. You admit later that you didn't actually measure it.
2. You say your observations were subjective, which measn you are relying on either no memries at all, or memories that are at least 584 days old, as that was when Venus was last as bright. Can you show any evidence that you have observed Venus before at maxima?
3. You seem not to realise how easy it is to measure brightnesses - amateur astronomers do it all the time. Yet not ONE report was made by any astronomer of any anomaly.

But you blithely claim it is atyopoically bright.

That is absolutely not scientific. In any way.




Oh dear. You don't get basic geometry? Judging by your repeated claim that Venus is too far away, clearly you don't understand this at all.

I think it's time you proved yourself as a real scientist, so I'm only going to give you some clues on where you are wrong here.

Just have a BIG LONG think about how the observer's location, in terms of angle and proximity to the object being viewed, will affect the APPARENT angle from the ecliptic plane that is seen by an Earth observer.

In particular, does the APPARENT angle of an object from a plane depend on were the observer is? Think VERY HARD about what would happen if you were right up close, BETWEEN the planet and ecliptic. What angle would the planet be from the ecliptic?

Now think about an observer from a far off galaxy - what angle would it appear to be from the ecliptic to him/her?

APPARENT angle. APPARENT is the key term here. The apparent angle you see is NOT, NOT, NOT the same as the inclination of the orbit!

Go do some sciencing. And when you DO get it, come back and thank us.



Chao? What language is that? If you are trying to use the informal Italian greeting "Ciao", try here:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Seventy plus pages of crap and everybody disappears when Venus is gone from the night sky as predicted.

So then, it's settled. The object is Venus.

Ummm Venus ignited dumbass. Or was it Jupiter?

:) lol.

Be that as it may, the pink/green object I posted about several pages back is definitely not a star. I have gone out several times since I've seen it (used binoculars too and it what I saw was breathtaking) at the same time and most of the time it's not there. I have seen it only one other time and it was very high in the sky much earlier than when I saw it for the first time. It flashes pink and green lights.

and you had to bump it, dumbshit

Yeah, and now it is an abnormally bright, mispositioned, 'what-the-hell-is-that?', MORNING STAR !

So all you 'I-can't-believe-its-Venus' folks will have to get up at the crack of dawn, now, to freak out.

BTW, it is beautiful, as is Jupiter, who is blithely floating a bit to the south, and a bit higher up from Venus.

Yeah these kinda threads had me thinking it was strange for minute like but then when it went away as predicted I was like no big deal wont fool me again lol! Now the whole global currency thing..... whole other story.

lol that was venus...
god people before you think of niburu...just try to look for the answer like a normal person...and than when you dont find anything...come up with something...

Who knows what it is? The fact that you probably cannot find out what it is anywhere on the internet should tell you that almost all info on astronomical events is kept quiet because of Planet X.

It is not Planet X though. It can only be seen using filters or when the sun is behind dark clouds. I have seen it many times when the sun was behind clouds. It looked like a big white plate with an eerie white glow flying through the clouds, usually there were clouds.

You may have seen Planet X already and just not realized it. AT LEAST YOU ARE LOOKING UP, which I bet 95% of Americans are not doing.

Hello! Whay you have been seeing in the sky, is the Miracle Star, visible from Christmas 2008 to the present. Some people suppose it is Venus, but it is much more brilliant!. I have seen it also in Buenos Aires, Argentina on March 2, 2009. It was very, very brilliant, with a violet nucleus and a fierce white halo, and radial filaments. May be it lasted 10 to 12 seconds. I suggest to you to go to SHARE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION website, and look for Star Sign, there are more than 80 photos of the Star, all over de World. After seeing the star I send a mail to www.share-es.org where they confirmed me that it was mi sighting was the Miracle Star. I suggest to tou doing the same. Bye! JOSEPH OSCAR GAGLIANO - BUENOS AIRES ARGENTINA

Hello! Whay you have been seeing in the sky, is the Miracle Star, visible from Christmas 2008 to the present. Some people suppose it is Venus, but it is much more brilliant!. I have seen it also in Buenos Aires, Argentina on March 2, 2009. It was very, very brilliant, with a violet nucleus and a fierce white halo, and radial filaments. May be it lasted 10 to 12 seconds. I suggest to you to go to SHARE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION website, and look for Star Sign, there are more than 80 photos of the Star, all over de World. After seeing the star I send a mail to www.share-es.org where they confirmed me that it was mi sighting was the Miracle Star. I suggest to tou doing the same. Bye! JOSEPH OSCAR GAGLIANO - BUENOS AIRES ARGENTINA

you guys are all fucking idiots

Its still there, now some say its Jupiter.
But then again, some say a comet will fall from the sky, followed by meteor showers and tidal waves...

;)

Seriously, it has been getting brighter for some time and my friend and I have been watching it get larger for over a year.

Shame the discussion ended, lets get this going again...

-Unit
The Beast

SIGH. Another person who doesn't observe the skies..?

Jupiter and Venus are two separate objects. Dat's why one is called Venus.. and the other?

Yes, well done, JUPITER!!

Yaaay! TWO DIFFERENT, VERY BRIGHT OBJECTS.

Now, it gets really tricky from here on. But do try to keep up.

Venus (that's the brighter one), is orbiting the Sun INSIDE Earth's orbit. So, yes, that means Venus is always 'relatively' near the Sun. It is called the MORNING STAR when it is in 'front' of the Sun. It is called the EVENING STAR when it is behind. Right now, it is the morning star and can be seen before dawn. It is currently moving closer to the sun, and will in fact get so close that it will be pretty much invisible by, oh, around December-ish. Around mid January it will be about as close as it gets to the Sun, then it will gradually move out again and reappear as the Evening Star. By say March/April it will have become very bright again in the night sky, and I predict new threads will be posted - yaaay!!


Jupiter is roughly opposite the Sun at the moment, and so is currently in the sky for most of the evening. As it orbits OUTSIDE Earth's orbit, it is NOT always near the Sun, and it travels more slowly than Venus through the sky.

There's much more, you have but to ask nicely. You could learn about all this stuff easily yourselves by doing some very basic research. And if you wish to post on threads about 'bright starlike things', it will save us some effort if you would do that first. And you will feel very clever, because you will - perhaps for the first time in your life - know what is going on above your head.

PLEASE, go to:

[link to www.stellarium.org]

It's open source. It's free. It's easy to use. It's VERY pretty and very realistic. It's educational. And you will be able to tell at glance what you are seeing in YOUR local sky, in real time..

the bright light was there this morning ... and guess what .....it looks bigger !

YES!!!...This object is getting and is SO much brighter than before I saw it yesterday and it had exploded in brightness and size from the last time I was able to see it only 5 days prior.

Hey everyone, fist post here and only because I've been monitoring this thing in the sky for a while now... The star hides under the horizon till about 3-4 AM then pops up in the South Eastern sky. Like others who have posted here mentioning about it.. I agree, this thing flickers a lot, showing about 4 different colors per second. What's really on my mind is the fact that it's growing... It always seems brighter the next time I see it, which is unusual. I cant find it on any sky map and I'm positive it's not Venus and I know where Sirius is; It's not Sirius. If anyone's wondering, I live in Montreal.

one word

stellarium


S T E L L A R I U M.

go to:

[link to www.stellarium.org]

you'll work it out from there.

Feel free to come back when you have identified your object, or alternatively, tell us where it is in relation to the stars/planets that SHOULD be right there...

Worthless then, got it. That would explain why Venus hasn't changed in brightness according to my camera's exposure settings.

Again, how much and who is saying this?

Which astronomy program? How did you measure those approximate 6 degrees?

A compass is not an accurate way of measuring true north for astronomical purposes, especially if you're holding it close to a large metallic telescope and/or mount. My LX200 shows Venus to be located exactly where it's supposed to be, despite the fact that the software that runs it hasn't been updated in about a decade.

Thanks Coward, will look into it and post as soon as i find the area

I see it too for over a month, and its on the same spot, and looks bigger now too

Awesome, Beast. This thread popped up after being dead for several months. I remember being deep in this thread in Feb of this year. Why are you resusitating it?