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No, you don't understand. The sun rises and sets directly over the equator on the equinoxes. That is directly East and West. Because the Earth is tilted East, West, North, and South are also tilted. If you compare it to the ecliptic plane then the line would be tilted but for an observer on the Earth the equinoxes have the sun directly East and West over the equator.

Please, let me re-address the question.

If you were to draw a (Y) at sunrise on the EQUATOR-LINE of Vernal equinox, would you say that (Y) would be higher at sunrise then at sunset? Would you say that (Y) at sunrise would be over the ECLIPTIC-PLANE and at sunset, "under?"

Ecliptic scientific diagram.
[link to www.physicalgeography.net]

[link to img404.imageshack.us]
 Quoting: Punisher

A Y? Huh? If you are looking at the equinox from the ecliptic, then the Vernal equinox would have sunrise below the ecliptic and sunset above with the reverse true for the Autumnal but from the point of view of anyone on the Earth, the Sun would rise in the East and set inthe West directly over the equator. The equator is tilted and East and West are tilted. The ecliptic plane does not matter in this situation. For people on the Earth, North is still north no matter where the ecliptic plane is.
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No, you don't understand. The sun rises and sets directly over the equator on the equinoxes. That is directly East and West. Because the Earth is tilted East, West, North, and South are also tilted. If you compare it to the ecliptic plane then the line would be tilted but for an observer on the Earth the equinoxes have the sun directly East and West over the equator.

Please, let me re-address the question.

If you were to draw a (Y) at sunrise on the EQUATOR-LINE of Vernal equinox, would you say that (Y) would be higher at sunrise then at sunset? Would you say that (Y) at sunrise would be over the ECLIPTIC-PLANE and at sunset, "under?"

Ecliptic scientific diagram.
[link to www.physicalgeography.net]

[link to img404.imageshack.us]
 Quoting: PUNISHER

A Y? Huh? If you are looking at the equinox from the ecliptic, then the Vernal equinox would have sunrise below the ecliptic and sunset above with the reverse true for the Autumnal
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Would you say that if we could draw marking lines in the sky the trajectory of the sun at Spring and Autumn (only) would cross in an (X)-formation at the ECLIPTIC-LINE?
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No, you don't understand. The sun rises and sets directly over the equator on the equinoxes. That is directly East and West. Because the Earth is tilted East, West, North, and South are also tilted. If you compare it to the ecliptic plane then the line would be tilted but for an observer on the Earth the equinoxes have the sun directly East and West over the equator.

Please, let me re-address the question.

If you were to draw a (Y) at sunrise on the EQUATOR-LINE of Vernal equinox, would you say that (Y) would be higher at sunrise then at sunset? Would you say that (Y) at sunrise would be over the ECLIPTIC-PLANE and at sunset, "under?"

Ecliptic scientific diagram.
[link to www.physicalgeography.net]

[link to img404.imageshack.us]


A Y? Huh? If you are looking at the equinox from the ecliptic, then the Vernal equinox would have sunrise below the ecliptic and sunset above with the reverse true for the Autumnal

Would you say that if we could draw marking lines in the sky the trajectory of the sun at Spring and Autumn (only) would cross in an (X)-formation at the ECLIPTIC-LINE?
 Quoting: Punisher

Why do you care about the ecliptic? It will still be East and West for anyone and everyone on the Earth. That is the only place that really matters.
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No, you don't understand. The sun rises and sets directly over the equator on the equinoxes. That is directly East and West. Because the Earth is tilted East, West, North, and South are also tilted. If you compare it to the ecliptic plane then the line would be tilted but for an observer on the Earth the equinoxes have the sun directly East and West over the equator.

Please, let me re-address the question.

If you were to draw a (Y) at sunrise on the EQUATOR-LINE of Vernal equinox, would you say that (Y) would be higher at sunrise then at sunset? Would you say that (Y) at sunrise would be over the ECLIPTIC-PLANE and at sunset, "under?"

Ecliptic scientific diagram.
[link to www.physicalgeography.net]

[link to img404.imageshack.us]
 Quoting: PUNISHER

A Y? Huh? If you are looking at the equinox from the ecliptic, then the Vernal equinox would have sunrise below the ecliptic and sunset above with the reverse true for the Autumnal
 Quoting: 341923

Would you say that if we could draw marking lines in the sky the trajectory of the sun at Spring and Autumn (only) would cross in an (X)-formation at the ECLIPTIC-LINE?

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Why do you care about the ecliptic?
 Quoting: 341923

We are having a discussion and we are reasoning, you may not realize at present how critical it is to establish understanding before a conclusion can be drawn. Work with me, answer the above question.
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Again, at the solstice points we ALL would witness the sun rise in EXACTLY Due East and set in EITHER the north or south west depending. The picture showed that rather well actually.
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No we wouldn't, because the Earth is curved. Sunrise directly due east on the solstices would only happen at the Tropic of Capricorn or the Tropic of Cancer, depending on which solstice it is.
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No, you don't understand. The sun rises and sets directly over the equator on the equinoxes. That is directly East and West. Because the Earth is tilted East, West, North, and South are also tilted. If you compare it to the ecliptic plane then the line would be tilted but for an observer on the Earth the equinoxes have the sun directly East and West over the equator.

Please, let me re-address the question.

If you were to draw a (Y) at sunrise on the EQUATOR-LINE of Vernal equinox, would you say that (Y) would be higher at sunrise then at sunset? Would you say that (Y) at sunrise would be over the ECLIPTIC-PLANE and at sunset, "under?"

Ecliptic scientific diagram.
[link to www.physicalgeography.net]

[link to img404.imageshack.us]


A Y? Huh? If you are looking at the equinox from the ecliptic, then the Vernal equinox would have sunrise below the ecliptic and sunset above with the reverse true for the Autumnal

Would you say that if we could draw marking lines in the sky the trajectory of the sun at Spring and Autumn (only) would cross in an (X)-formation at the ECLIPTIC-LINE?

-------------------------------


Why do you care about the ecliptic?

We are having a discussion and we are reasoning, you may not realize at present how critical it is to establish understanding before a conclusion can be drawn. Work with me, answer the above question.
 Quoting: Punisher

Again, on either equinox, anyone on the Earth would see the sun rise in the East and set in the West directly over the quator. The ecliptic does not matter. Nobody on Earth would see anything relating to the Earth's or Sun's position to the ecliptic. The ecliptic does not matter. So your reasoning that a round Earth would have the sun rising in the North-East and setting in the South-West is wrong. It would not be seen on Earth. It is not predicted by the round Earth model for an Earth observer. You're trying to get me to say something that you can twist towards your flawed point like you do with everyone else and I'm frankly done with you. You have repeatedly shown that you have no interest in learning.
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Again, on either equinox, anyone on the Earth would see the sun rise in the East and set in the West directly over the quator. The ecliptic does not matter. Nobody on Earth would see anything relating to the Earth's or Sun's position to the ecliptic. The ecliptic does not matter. So your reasoning that a round Earth would have the sun rising in the North-East and setting in the South-West is wrong. It would not be seen on Earth. It is not predicted by the round Earth model for an Earth observer. You're trying to get me to say something that you can twist towards your flawed point like you do with everyone else and I'm frankly done with you. You have repeatedly shown that you have no interest in learning.
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Don't fret, the Truth has arrived.

The earth isn't a sphere, it doesn't revolve around the sun and neither do the planets. GOD exists, and the LORD didn't create the earth spherical, the LORD didn't create any planets, the CREATOR spread out the earth flat over the darkness. (bottomless-gravity)


THE PROOF

Keep in mind the Sun is smack in the middle of the ecliptic-plane, dead center!!!!


If you were to draw a (Y) on the EQUATOR-LINE of March equinox, (Y) would be above the ECLIPTIC-PLANE at sunrise BUT would set below the ECLIPTIC-PLANE by sunset.

[link to www.physicalgeography.net]
[link to www.aapscience7.net]


The same would be true in reverse for September equinox, (Y) would rise below the ECLIPTIC-PLANE and set above. We will agree that if we could draw marking lines in the sky the trajectory of the sun for Spring and Autumn (only) would cross in an (X)-formation at the ECLIPTIC-PLANE.


In the June solstice position sunrise at the EQUATOR-LINE would occur leveled to the ECLIPTIC-PLANE, and (Y) would spend all day below the ECLIPTIC-PLANE, it would only rise to set horizontally at sunset. The spherical explanation of why the sun is so high in the sky during summer.

Summer Solstice.
[link to img390.imageshack.us]


In the December solstice, sunrise again begins flush to the ECLIPTIC-PLANE only in this season (Y) remains all day above the ECLIPTIC-PLANE, and only sets horizontally again at sunset. The spherical explanation of why the sun is so low in the sky during winter.

Winter Solstice.
[link to img390.imageshack.us]


- In summer (Y) is all day BELOW the ecliptic-plane and the sun rises north/east and sets north/west.

- In winter (Y) is all day ABOVE the ecliptic-plane and the sun rises south/east and sets south/west.


BUT the March & September equinox has a combination of both. In spring (Y) rises ABOVE the ecliptic-plane (winter) and sets BELOW it (summer). The sun should rise south/east and set north/west for March equinox. The reverse for autumn, BELOW sunrise/summer, ABOVE sunset/winter.


Translation: the middle diagram (Equinox) we all observe on earth isn't from a spherical earth-sun system, its from a flat earth-sun system. Science (NASA) never made any space travel, or they would have seen the earth flat. Science has lied. Space travel is an impossibility. Landing on the moon is equivalent to getting to Heaven. There are no Planets, people who have said they’ve seen them, lied, just like science lied about a round a earth.


FLAT EARTH-SUN SYSTEM

[link to img390.imageshack.us]
[link to www.lhup.edu]
[link to img390.imageshack.us]


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Why are you cross posting this on three different threads?
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Why are you cross posting this on three different threads?
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Answering my buddy 341923, making sure he gets the message, and at the same time hoping people like you get the truth also.

You don't have a problem with getting the truth out, "do you?"
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You don't have a problem with getting the truth out, "do you?"
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No, but I do with rudeness -- and cluttering a message board that doesn't belong to me with several posts whereas one would do the job just fine strikes me as rude. But that's just me.

Will you pick one and stick to it, so I might ask my question of you?
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Maybe this will help, OP:


It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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Maybe this will help, OP:


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I stopped watching when the earth's axis mysteriously straightened itself up-right, no more 23.5 degree tilt.
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I stopped watching when the earth's axis mysteriously straightened itself up-right, no more 23.5 degree tilt.
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Because on the equinoxes the terminator is perpendicular to the Equator. With that in mind, try again.
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Because on the equinoxes the terminator is perpendicular to the Equator. With that in mind, try again.
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Watch it yourself, the earth's axis mysteriously straightened itself up-right, no more 23.5 degree tilt. BOGUS!!!!!


Address my new thread, see how foolish science is.
Thread: Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.
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Watch it yourself, the earth's axis mysteriously straightened itself up-right, no more 23.5 degree tilt. BOGUS!!!!!
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I already did. The view shifted to better demonstrate the implications of the equinox. The tilt is still there, but our point of view matched it.
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Maybe this will help, OP:

 Quoting: The Guy

I stopped watching when the earth's axis mysteriously straightened itself up-right, no more 23.5 degree tilt.
 Quoting: The PUNISHER

Our point of view shifted to match the tilt, to better show the implications of the equinox.
 Quoting: The Guy

" The view shifted "

Yes, I was expecting science to weeble-wooble out of this one.
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Why are you cross posting this on three different threads?

Answering my buddy 341923, making sure he gets the message, and at the same time hoping people like you get the truth also.

You don't have a problem with getting the truth out, "do you?"
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I'm not your buddy. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the ass. You're still getting it wrong. You still don't understand how a spherical Earth works. You still don't get that the ecliptic doesn't matter. The spherical Earth predicts that the Sun will go from East to West directly over the equator on each equinox and guess what, it does. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it is wrong. It just means you don't understand it.

For others here, I have been trying to decide if Punisher actually believes the whole flat Earth nonsense or if he is just an elaborate troll. If the former, then how sad for him. He will never understand how the world really works. If the latter, then still how sad for him that he has nothing better to do than troll multiple forums for weeks on end. Which do you think?
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Maybe this will help, OP:


 Quoting: The Guy

Great video. Of course as expected it still went over his head.
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You still don't understand how a spherical Earth works.
 Quoting: 341923

That's cause the earth is Flat.

You still don't get that the ecliptic doesn't matter. The spherical Earth predicts that the Sun will go from East to West directly over the equator on each equinox and guess what, it does. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it is wrong. It just means you don't understand it.
 Quoting: 341923

You and others wouldn't be wasting all this time if I was wrong. The world could care less if there is one person wrong. But the World does care about what I post, and the proof is you & everyone in the world is affording me all this attention.

For others here, I have been trying to decide if Punisher actually believes the whole flat Earth nonsense or if he is just an elaborate troll. If the former, then how sad for him. He will never understand how the world really works. If the latter, then still how sad for him that he has nothing better to do than troll multiple forums for weeks on end. Which do you think?
 Quoting: 341923

Examine your sceince.


Explain why in summer (Y) is all day BELOW the ecliptic-plane and the sun rises north/east and sets north/west. And in winter (Y) is all day ABOVE the ecliptic-plane and the sun rises south/east and sets south/west.


But March equinox has a combination of both. The sun should rise south/east and set north/west for March equinox. But it doesn't, "why?"

[link to img390.imageshack.us]


WHY?

WHY?

The earth isn't a sphere, it doesn't revolve around the sun and neither do the planets. GOD exists, and the LORD didn't create the earth spherical, the LORD didn't create any planets, the CREATOR spread out the earth flat over the darkness. (bottomless-gravity)


THE PROOF

Keep in mind the Sun is smack in the middle of the ecliptic-plane, dead center!!!!


If you were to draw a (Y) on the EQUATOR-LINE of March equinox, (Y) would be above the ECLIPTIC-PLANE at sunrise BUT would set below the ECLIPTIC-PLANE by sunset.

[link to www.physicalgeography.net]
[link to www.aapscience7.net]


The same would be true in reverse for September equinox, (Y) would rise below the ECLIPTIC-PLANE and set above. We will agree that if we could draw marking lines in the sky the trajectory of the sun for Spring and Autumn (only) would cross in an (X)-formation at the ECLIPTIC-PLANE.


In the June solstice position sunrise at the EQUATOR-LINE would occur leveled to the ECLIPTIC-PLANE, and (Y) would spend all day below the ECLIPTIC-PLANE, it would only rise to set horizontally at sunset. The spherical explanation of why the sun is so high in the sky during summer.

Summer Solstice.
[link to img390.imageshack.us]


In the December solstice, sunrise again begins flush to the ECLIPTIC-PLANE only in this season (Y) remains all day above the ECLIPTIC-PLANE, and only sets horizontally again at sunset. The spherical explanation of why the sun is so low in the sky during winter.

Winter Solstice.
[link to img390.imageshack.us]


- In summer (Y) is all day BELOW the ecliptic-plane and the sun rises north/east and sets north/west.

- In winter (Y) is all day ABOVE the ecliptic-plane and the sun rises south/east and sets south/west.


BUT the March & September equinox has a combination of both. In spring (Y) rises ABOVE the ecliptic-plane (winter) and sets BELOW it (summer). The sun should rise south/east and set north/west for March equinox. The reverse for autumn, BELOW sunrise/summer, ABOVE sunset/winter.


Translation: the middle diagram (Equinox) we all observe on earth isn't from a spherical earth-sun system, its from a flat earth-sun system. Science (NASA) never made any space travel, or they would have seen the earth flat. Science has lied. Space travel is an impossibility. Landing on the moon is equivalent to getting to Heaven. There are no Planets, people who have said they’ve seen them, lied, just like science lied about a round a earth.


FLAT EARTH-SUN SYSTEM

[link to img390.imageshack.us]
[link to www.lhup.edu]
[link to img390.imageshack.us]


The CREATOR blessed the earth, and all its inhabitants. Lets live up to those blessings. Praise be to GOD, it is proper to praise the LORD hf hf
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I hearby nominate the Punisher as the nuttiest GLPer of all time.

Dude, you're whack. Dumber than a doorknob - or you like playing the role of the village idiot.

.. Or you're what I like to call a "double agent", posting as a "believer in God" yet talking such shit to make people who really do believe in God look stupid, kinda like an antichrist.
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You and others wouldn't be wasting all this time if I was wrong. The world could care less if there is one person wrong. But the World does care about what I post, and the proof is you & everyone in the world is affording me all this attention.
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IF it was just you then few would care but not nobody. Some would still want to educate you. You get attention because you are dragging others down with you. Your ignorance affects others.
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You and others wouldn't be wasting all this time if I was wrong. The world could care less if there is one person wrong. But the World does care about what I post, and the proof is you & everyone in the world is affording me all this attention.

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IF it was just you then few would care but not nobody. Some would still want to educate you. You get attention because you are dragging others down with you. Your ignorance affects others.
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LIAR!!!!!!
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Punisher is a Satanic strawman shill.

Where's Postman? He's usually right behind.
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Again, at the solstice points we ALL would witness the sun rise in EXACTLY Due East and set in EITHER the north or south west depending. The picture showed that rather well actually.


No we wouldn't, because the Earth is curved. Sunrise directly due east on the solstices would only happen at the Tropic of Capricorn or the Tropic of Cancer, depending on which solstice it is.
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That has NOTHING to do with what I'm saying. Does the curved Earth do that at the summer and winter points?

NO, it does NOT.
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That has NOTHING to do with what I'm saying. Does the curved Earth do that at the summer and winter points?

NO, it does NOT.
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No, the spherical Earth model does not predict that the sun would rise exactly due east anywhere except on whichever Tropic is experiencing its summer solstice.
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The earth is flat. Who has been outside of Earth's atmosphere to prove otherwise?
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The earth is flat. Who has been outside of Earth's atmosphere to prove otherwise?
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These people:
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Re: I'M BACK!!!!!!!! And science is in BIG trouble, found more holes in their Swiss cheese science and its beginning to smell real bad.
That has NOTHING to do with what I'm saying. Does the curved Earth do that at the summer and winter points?

NO, it does NOT.


No, the spherical Earth model does not predict that the sun would rise exactly due east anywhere except on whichever Tropic is experiencing its summer solstice.
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YES, it DOES, just like it does at the corresponding winter and summer points.

Nice try. rolleyes
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Re: I'M BACK!!!!!!!! And science is in BIG trouble, found more holes in their Swiss cheese science and its beginning to smell real bad.
Watch it yourself, the earth's axis mysteriously straightened itself up-right, no more 23.5 degree tilt. BOGUS!!!!!


I already did. The view shifted to better demonstrate the implications of the equinox. The tilt is still there, but our point of view matched it.
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NO, it did NOT. rolleyes

Nice misdirection try though.
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Re: I'M BACK!!!!!!!! And science is in BIG trouble, found more holes in their Swiss cheese science and its beginning to smell real bad.
Watch it yourself, the earth's axis mysteriously straightened itself up-right, no more 23.5 degree tilt. BOGUS!!!!!


I already did. The view shifted to better demonstrate the implications of the equinox. The tilt is still there, but our point of view matched it.


NO, it did NOT. rolleyes

Nice misdirection try though.
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Try watching past the five-minute mark next time.

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