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Connecting The Dots On The Grandest Scale ~ Proof Regarding 2012 ~ The Pattern Of Consciousness Evolution Revealed!

 
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Good morning Bowman! Good morning all!

Nice reply regarding diversity-
We're all in this together, and whether we travel the same road or not doesn't matter- there are many ways to the mountaintop.
Diversity promotes.
Divisiveness negates.

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In 4 years I have never read a thread as thought provoking as this. Kudos BOWMAN and all .. well Almost all.

The idea of Universal motion is new but I'm sure on occasion I have felt it and heard the grinding of it's wheels. This 'dark flow' having the Sun and Earth in it's tide spiraling along the river of ether is an easy vision to hold.

Great thread. The best. ;-)
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Thanks for the complement OZXOZ.

I'm happy the info is getting some attention.

The spiraling can also be brought down to a personal level too.

As you stand in your place on the planet, the planet is rotating and if you started a trail at an absolute point in space, you're trail would be a spiral as the Earth spins and moves foward through space.

Then as the Earth revolves around the Sun, your personal spiral would form an even grander spiral made up of little spirals.

Galactic spin would make yet an even grander spiral as the Sun bobs and weaves above and below galactic plane like the motion a seamstress would use, except it would be the "fabric" of space/time that is being sewn.

Think about that!





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I'm happy the info is getting some attention.

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Interesting side note: one person makes a difference.

According to Braden, the square root of 1% of any population, is all that's needed to affect change.

There's a ancient Mayan story about a 'healer' of a tribe who, because he expanded his vision to be able to see ships on the horizon, had an affect on the individuals in the tribe, so that they too learned to expand their vision to see ships on the horizon.


Anyone who says one little thing can't make a difference has never spent a night with a mosquito.

:)
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Good morning Bowman! Good morning all!

Nice reply regarding diversity-
We're all in this together, and whether we travel the same road or not doesn't matter- there are many ways to the mountaintop.
Diversity promotes.
Divisiveness negates.

;)
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Hello Sana, good morning.

Fear can be a good thing in that it can keep you out of dangerous situations to preserve yourself.

It's a survival tool of the mind in that way.

But you are not your mind and when fear consumes the self that is when it can turn into a manipulative tool for others to control and surpress you.

It's a fine line and one needs to pay attention to that.




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Until the past 30 years human technology was unable to confirm the theoretical knowledge of what the universe is.

Technology now confirms the Universe`s physics (make up) creating all institutions formed to shape human cultures the same task.

How to translate what is known to the public which the intitutions are bound to serve?

Most governing intitutions are yet to be informed.

The radical nature of social/moral questions "what are we and why are we here" are considered sensitive, forcing a policy to be adopted.

Progressive leaking of knowledge to both public and their governing intitutions whom are not in the "loop".

This shapes both the public and their intituitions to evolve common consensus.

Globalisation , originating from the theory era of this knowledge, is a key ingrediant.
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Fear can be a good thing in that it can keep you out of dangerous situations to preserve yourself.

It's a survival tool of the mind in that way.

But you are not your mind and when fear consumes the self that is when it can turn into a manipulative tool for others to control and surpress you.

It's a fine line and one needs to pay attention to that.




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True- the gift of fear.

Strange how (and why?) human beings have developed the propensity for 'talking' themselves out of what they instinctively feel (know) is of danger, or a threat to them.

Lungold spoke of this with regards to those who chose to go to work on the morning of Sept. 11, in contrast to those who chose to do something else.
Perhaps some 'knew' and chose to go in- as part of their 'experience'.
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Yes, I remember that story.

It was when the explorers from Europe that showed up and the natives could not see the ships because they could not comprehend what a sailing vessel was.

I bet there is some interesting thngs that Cortez brought back with him that may take residence in the secretive Vatican archieves.

In my opinion it was a clean-up job.




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I'm happy the info is getting some attention.

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Interesting side note: one person makes a difference.

According to Braden, the square root of 1% of any population, is all that's needed to affect change.

There's a ancient Mayan story about a 'healer' of a tribe who, because he expanded his vision to be able to see ships on the horizon, had an affect on the individuals in the tribe, so that they too learned to expand their vision to see ships on the horizon.


Anyone who says one little thing can't make a difference has never spent a night with a mosquito.

:)
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Yes, I remember that story.

It was when the explorers from Europe that showed up and the natives could not see the ships because they could not comprehend what a sailing vessel was.

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Case in point is a woman who had her vision restored after 40 years (she lost it during infancy).
Although she can now see, she cannot comprehend what she's seeing, because she has not related to the world in that manner during her life, and the brain has trouble processing the visual data, because it has no referential structure- it has to build it from scratch. I found this fascinating.
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Right on, AC!

And I've seen people on this very site post threads driving home that very point and and usually its a bunch of rotten eggs being thrown at the OP.

It's the foundation of a one world entity that makes the differnce and there are a whole lotta reasons to see why this are progressing foward in that respect.

But it seems most people are convinced that we are heading into some dark ages type of senario and when you look at this pattern you can see that is simply not the case.

People love the drama that doom brings.

I know because I've let myself get caught up in it too.




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Until the past 30 years human technology was unable to confirm the theoretical knowledge of what the universe is.

Technology now confirms the Universe`s physics (make up) creating all institutions formed to shape human cultures the same task.

How to translate what is known to the public which the intitutions are bound to serve?

Most governing intitutions are yet to be informed.

The radical nature of social/moral questions "what are we and why are we here" are considered sensitive, forcing a policy to be adopted.

Progressive leaking of knowledge to both public and their governing intitutions whom are not in the "loop".

This shapes both the public and their intituitions to evolve common consensus.

Globalisation , originating from the theory era of this knowledge, is a key ingrediant.
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I bet there is some interesting thngs that Cortez brought back with him that may take residence in the secretive Vatican archieves.

In my opinion it was a clean-up job.


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Control and suppression of information?

Yeah, I'd love to have a look-see at what's been hidden. When it does come to light the 'why' will be known instantly.
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That must have been a remarkable experience for her.

I remember a story a few years back that doctors were hoping to restore Stevie Wonder's vision.

Some new technology they were trying on him.





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Yes, I remember that story.

It was when the explorers from Europe that showed up and the natives could not see the ships because they could not comprehend what a sailing vessel was.



Case in point is a woman who had her vision restored after 40 years (she lost it during infancy).
Although she can now see, she cannot comprehend what she's seeing, because she has not related to the world in that manner during her life, and the brain has trouble processing the visual data, because it has no referential structure- it has to build it from scratch. I found this fascinating.
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the secretive Vatican archieves.

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A moment of insight- Truth will reveal itself in another way- exposing all in one fell swoop. It won't matter what's there or who knew- the evidence will be redundant.
`:,
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That must have been a remarkable experience for her.

I remember a story a few years back that doctors were hoping to restore Stevie Wonder's vision.

Some new technology they were trying on him.


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No kidding. The thing is, it's not like it is in 'holly-woood'.
The brain begins to process and store visual data from the moment of birth- what the newly sighted adult sees is light, flashes, shapes, dark patches- they have nothing to correlate to...basically they have to learn to see!
Took me by surprise- as I'm sure it did them and the doctors.
wow.
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the secretive Vatican archieves.



A moment of insight- Truth will reveal itself in another way- exposing all in one fell swoop. It won't matter what's there or who knew- the evidence will be redundant.
`:,
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On the surface it was a horrible thing to have so many slaughtered just so an agenda could be carried out.

And there are plenty of other examples of this where duality asserts itself.

It was all just part of the process that we all had to go through, so lessons could be learned and stored within the soul.

That will help us to be more responsible down the road as co-creators.




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I'm going to e-mail Dr. Calleman tonite with a link to this thread.

I'd like to know his opinion and see if he has any input to give.

If I get a response worth posting I'll post it in the next thread.

Have a great day all.




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On the surface it was a horrible thing to have so many slaughtered just so an agenda could be carried out.

And there are plenty of other examples of this where duality asserts itself.

It was all just part of the process that we all had to go through, so lessons could be learned and stored within the soul.

That will help us to be more responsible down the road as co-creators.

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This is my view as well- I need only to reflect on the experience of my own life to know this is true. Once embraced, it is so much easier not to take things so personally, not to blame or judge or fear- to love and accept and be grateful to everyone for their participation and contribution to this game.
( I do have my moments where I slip, lol! but even they provide learning opportunities!)

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The email to Dr. Calleman is a great idea!
What a brilliant mind! (Him too).
:)


(I'm currently researching the ancient Viking Celts/ Maya connection- Ouroboros/ Quetzalcoatl-will post if I find anything interesting).

Enjoy your day!
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Cool Sana.

Wish you luck in your searching.

I'm gonna take a wild guess that you have heard of Micheal Tsarion.
Celtic mythology is his specialty.

I'll chime in on this subject later.

All the best.

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On the surface it was a horrible thing to have so many slaughtered just so an agenda could be carried out.

And there are plenty of other examples of this where duality asserts itself.

It was all just part of the process that we all had to go through, so lessons could be learned and stored within the soul.

That will help us to be more responsible down the road as co-creators.

_____


This is my view as well- I need only to reflect on the experience of my own life to know this is true. Once embraced, it is so much easier not to take things so personally, not to blame or judge or fear- to love and accept and be grateful to everyone for their participation and contribution to this game.
( I do have my moments where I slip, lol! but even they provide learning opportunities!)

---------------

The email to Dr. Calleman is a great idea!
What a brilliant mind! (Him too).
:)


(I'm currently researching the ancient Viking Celts/ Maya connection- Ouroboros/ Quetzalcoatl-will post if I find anything interesting).

Enjoy your day!
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Deep stuff in this thread, starting of with the people sitting on the fence. Not sure whether to get out the boots or life vest, it's deep in this thread.
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Not sure whether to get out the boots or life vest, it's deep in this thread.
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Lol!
Never heard this expression- excellent sense of humour AC!
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Deep stuff in this thread, starting of with the people sitting on the fence. Not sure whether to get out the boots or life vest, it's deep in this thread.
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Scuba gear may be required.





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(I'm currently researching the ancient Viking Celts/ Maya connection- Ouroboros/ Quetzalcoatl-will post if I find anything interesting).

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The recent discovery in Norway of an ancient massive talisman (identifiable only from the air)- the circular form of a serpent (ouroboros) measuring 666' encircling a pentagram- prompted me to look more closely into a possible connection between the 'fiery serpent' of celtic lore, and Quetzalcoatl the 'feathered serpent'.
In a series by Philip Gardiner (Secrets of the Serpent), comparisons between ancient symbols/ rituals/ stone circles in Avebury (Abiri-literally 'fire snake') and those in South America.
In addition one of the Avebury symbols used is that of a serpent passing through the eye of what we'd recognise as the ankh, representing rebirth/ re-energizing.

The second thing that caught my attention was the depiction of bearded men in the Mayan symbols- and a legend about a 'god' or 'gods' who arrived from across the great water, and taught the early tribes 'secrets' about the stars. This info eludes me at the moment, but I know I have come across it in my meanderings.

Thanks Bowman, for the tip about Michael Tsarion- have not delved into his work to any degree yet- can you believe it?

Oh, greetings and salutations on this fine morning! (listening to 'Comfortably Numb'- enjoying my morning coffee- hehe- reading the GLP posts- it all goes hand in hand. lol!)
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(I'm currently researching the ancient Viking Celts/ Maya connection- Ouroboros/ Quetzalcoatl-will post if I find anything interesting).



The recent discovery in Norway of an ancient massive talisman (identifiable only from the air)- the circular form of a serpent (ouroboros) measuring 666' encircling a pentagram- prompted me to look more closely into a possible connection between the 'fiery serpent' of celtic lore, and Quetzalcoatl the 'feathered serpent'.
In a series by Philip Gardiner (Secrets of the Serpent), comparisons between ancient symbols/ rituals/ stone circles in Avebury (Abiri-literally 'fire snake') and those in South America.
In addition one of the Avebury symbols used is that of a serpent passing through the eye of what we'd recognise as the ankh, representing rebirth/ re-energizing.

The second thing that caught my attention was the depiction of bearded men in the Mayan symbols- and a legend about a 'god' or 'gods' who arrived from across the great water, and taught the early tribes 'secrets' about the stars. This info eludes me at the moment, but I know I have come across it in my meanderings.

Thanks Bowman, for the tip about Michael Tsarion- have not delved into his work to any degree yet- can you believe it?

Oh, greetings and salutations on this fine morning! (listening to 'Comfortably Numb'- enjoying my morning coffee- hehe- reading the GLP posts- it all goes hand in hand. lol!)
:)
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Have you looked at the work of Josef Campbell or Graham Hancock regarding this? Both have some interesting things to say regarding global similarities of ancient myth and neolithic artwork.
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Have you looked at the work of Josef Campbell or Graham Hancock regarding this? Both have some interesting things to say regarding global similarities of ancient myth and neolithic artwork.
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Shen Long! Hancock's works!- Fingerprints of God? - thx for the reminder. Josef Campbell- Don't think I'm familiar, but will definitely look him up. Thanks again- I really appreciate you sharing this!

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The internet speaks the same language; mathematics, it is we who are not yet fluent enough, but that is changing.


The universe speaks the same language. That is not my point.

I am simply saying we are no where near planetary consciousness at this time and it is dishonest to force-feed telecommunications into this model so it fits.

Perhaps a chip that allows instantaneous telepathic communication across cultural and linguistic boundaries.

J6P has no better understanding of a Chinaman or Arab today than he did 10 years ago... in fact, media and telecommunications have corrupted true understanding and facts except for the few who know where to look. Overall, however, the world is more divided than ever and we ARE NOT moving into a planetary consciousness at this time. The evidence is not there...

It is possible for some sort of "shift" to take place, divine grace or something.. but as it stands now I just don't see it happening.
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I am +- familiar with lungold's theories. It certainly make one see headlines differently. It surely explains why some that are stuck in tribal consciousness are now self destructing. Make one wonder how many underworlds ahead can an outmoded consciousness survive. One thing I can see for sure is that the world's level of consciousness have changed, and is trying to shake off the retrograde elements within our midst.
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I am +- familiar with lungold's theories. It certainly make one see headlines differently. It surely explains why some that are stuck in tribal consciousness are now self destructing. Make one wonder how many underworlds ahead can an outmoded consciousness survive. One thing I can see for sure is that the world's level of consciousness have changed, and is trying to shake off the retrograde elements within our midst.
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Well said AC.
When you change your view, what you view changes.
And a shift in consciousness is definitely underway- may have started small (as all things do), but it is expanding and picking up momentum.
Old patterns always give way to new- they have to in order to evolve, adapt,survive, evolve again, and thereby continue.

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Have you looked at the work of Josef Campbell or Graham Hancock regarding this? Both have some interesting things to say regarding global similarities of ancient myth and neolithic artwork.


Shen Long! Hancock's works!- Fingerprints of God? - thx for the reminder. Josef Campbell- Don't think I'm familiar, but will definitely look him up. Thanks again- I really appreciate you sharing this!

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No prob, bob. Some quick "abstracts" of few related texts from my "library":

The Hancock text I'm referring to is "Supernatural" - a really in depth examination of the similarities of 'cave paintings' around the world, and some excellent new theories regarding their function. Apparently the idea that these are "religious" painting has been discredited for some time, although in the mainstream the idea still persists. Hancock claims these are in fact 'universal depictions' of shamanic knowledge gained from interaction with magic mushrooms or other such things. Not a reductive explanation however, but shows how the visions produced by such plants are often 'transcultural'.

Joseph Campbell. If you can find "The Mythic Image" you'll be blown away. One of the earlier texts on this stuff and possibly the most influential. After reading, it's clear a lot of contemporary guys started with this look at ancient art and mythological narrative that transcends the "East-West" divide. An excellent primer on mythological symbolism as well.

Another good read is Richard Tarnas' "Cosmos and Psyche". Much like Calleman lays out history in the framework for Mayan days and underworlds, Tarnas maps out important events in history as they correspond to "Western" astrology. I've lent my Calleman text out, but as soon as I get it back, I'm gonna cross reference the two.

"2012: Return of Quetzalcoatl" by Daniel Pinchbeck is an "autobiographical" ethnography of shamanic practices and their relation to the 2012 narrative. A good read, although I'm still not convinced Pinchbeck isn't a little too immersed in the "hedonistic" (sex/drugs) side of things....

Although a bit unrelated, I'd also include Rick Barrett's "Taijiquan: Through the Western Gate". While it's explicitly about explaining the principles of Taijiquan in 'scientific' terminology more acceptable to Westerners, it's also fantastic reinforcement for helping to overcome the "western gate of consciousness" which blocks access to "supernatural" truth or at least experience.

In fact, all these books are valuable in common because in their own way all address the problem of the "Western Gate" - which is the modern idea, from Descartes, that consciousness and matter do not interact at all in a meaningful way or more recent attempts by scientists and thinkers to reduce one to other.
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No prob, bob. Some quick "abstracts" of few related texts from my "library":

The Hancock text I'm referring to is "Supernatural" - a really in depth examination of the similarities of 'cave paintings' around the world, and some excellent new theories regarding their function. Apparently the idea that these are "religious" painting has been discredited for some time, although in the mainstream the idea still persists. Hancock claims these are in fact 'universal depictions' of shamanic knowledge gained from interaction with magic mushrooms or other such things. Not a reductive explanation however, but shows how the visions produced by such plants are often 'transcultural'.

Joseph Campbell. If you can find "The Mythic Image" you'll be blown away. One of the earlier texts on this stuff and possibly the most influential. After reading, it's clear a lot of contemporary guys started with this look at ancient art and mythological narrative that transcends the "East-West" divide. An excellent primer on mythological symbolism as well.

Another good read is Richard Tarnas' "Cosmos and Psyche". Much like Calleman lays out history in the framework for Mayan days and underworlds, Tarnas maps out important events in history as they correspond to "Western" astrology. I've lent my Calleman text out, but as soon as I get it back, I'm gonna cross reference the two.

"2012: Return of Quetzalcoatl" by Daniel Pinchbeck is an "autobiographical" ethnography of shamanic practices and their relation to the 2012 narrative. A good read, although I'm still not convinced Pinchbeck isn't a little too immersed in the "hedonistic" (sex/drugs) side of things....

Although a bit unrelated, I'd also include Rick Barrett's "Taijiquan: Through the Western Gate". While it's explicitly about explaining the principles of Taijiquan in 'scientific' terminology more acceptable to Westerners, it's also fantastic reinforcement for helping to overcome the "western gate of consciousness" which blocks access to "supernatural" truth or at least experience.

In fact, all these books are valuable in common because in their own way all address the problem of the "Western Gate" - which is the modern idea, from Descartes, that consciousness and matter do not interact at all in a meaningful way or more recent attempts by scientists and thinkers to reduce one to other.
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Shen! A wealth of information here!
I'm looking into Campbell right now- as a foundation. Seems that so much of what is now being written/ coming to light is based on the early (and now often obscure), groundbreaking works of those that went against the 'conventional' thinking of the time (Velikovsky comes to mind). 'Seeds sewn, lain dormant, now sprout'.
Thank you so much- making note of all of these.
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you'll be blown away.
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PS. Shen Long- love the mind blowing stuff!
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No prob, bob. Some quick "abstracts" of few related texts from my "library":

The Hancock text I'm referring to is "Supernatural" - a really in depth examination of the similarities of 'cave paintings' around the world, and some excellent new theories regarding their function. Apparently the idea that these are "religious" painting has been discredited for some time, although in the mainstream the idea still persists. Hancock claims these are in fact 'universal depictions' of shamanic knowledge gained from interaction with magic mushrooms or other such things. Not a reductive explanation however, but shows how the visions produced by such plants are often 'transcultural'.

Joseph Campbell. If you can find "The Mythic Image" you'll be blown away. One of the earlier texts on this stuff and possibly the most influential. After reading, it's clear a lot of contemporary guys started with this look at ancient art and mythological narrative that transcends the "East-West" divide. An excellent primer on mythological symbolism as well.

Another good read is Richard Tarnas' "Cosmos and Psyche". Much like Calleman lays out history in the framework for Mayan days and underworlds, Tarnas maps out important events in history as they correspond to "Western" astrology. I've lent my Calleman text out, but as soon as I get it back, I'm gonna cross reference the two.

"2012: Return of Quetzalcoatl" by Daniel Pinchbeck is an "autobiographical" ethnography of shamanic practices and their relation to the 2012 narrative. A good read, although I'm still not convinced Pinchbeck isn't a little too immersed in the "hedonistic" (sex/drugs) side of things....

Although a bit unrelated, I'd also include Rick Barrett's "Taijiquan: Through the Western Gate". While it's explicitly about explaining the principles of Taijiquan in 'scientific' terminology more acceptable to Westerners, it's also fantastic reinforcement for helping to overcome the "western gate of consciousness" which blocks access to "supernatural" truth or at least experience.

In fact, all these books are valuable in common because in their own way all address the problem of the "Western Gate" - which is the modern idea, from Descartes, that consciousness and matter do not interact at all in a meaningful way or more recent attempts by scientists and thinkers to reduce one to other.
 Quoting: Shen Long


A Case for Mistaken Identity
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A Potted View of Ancient Geometric Imagery
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Bearing the Unbearable
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Bringing in the May
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But What About Jung?
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Chinese Longevity Symbol
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Confronting the Dragon
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Elusive Female Figures
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Gods in the Flesh – Part One
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Gods in the Flesh – Part Two
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The origin of our struggling to survive historical Archetypes?

Perhaps humanity are not the only entities transmuting to the Majestic Cosmic influences (Archetypes)?

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Re: Connecting The Dots On The Grandest Scale ~ Proof Regarding 2012 ~ The Pattern Of Consciousness Evolution Revealed!
Thanks for the links 594102.





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