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Free Laundry Detergent Experiment with Soap Nuts/ China Berries

 
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*disclaimer* lol
*Sorry to GLPrs, this was written for my blog today since I am so hot on this idea now that I have tried it. *

Oooooh, I am so excited ! I love to share neat ideas I find out about and this is BY FAR one of the very best. Here comes the part where I sound like I am a commercial for some cult... lol


What if I told you that you that there is a way for you to wash your clothes without ever paying for detergent again ?!?!?!!?

How much do you spend on laundry detergent a month ?

I don't know about you, but I am poor and I like to have clean clothes all of the time :) So far I have preferred Tide, however, I can only afford it about every 3rd time. I buy Fab or Arm & Hammer liquid detergents in between and the clothes do tend to get a bit grayish ( or so I think ) if I don't go back to Tide every so often. Then I can never seem to get my Washer Soap scent to match the Dryer crap scent lol . I really don't spend that much on laundry $10-15.00 or so a month, but it sure would be nice to save that money.


Well, I recently heard about these things called Soap Nuts. Ever heard of em ? Me either, until recently. I was watching The View or some shit and they were talking about "green" cleaning products. The guest they had demonstrating stuff came down to these Soap Nut things. Turns out that they are NOT NUTS at all- THEY ARE ACTUALLY BERRIES. She threw a few (3-5 ) in a Tupperware with warm water and shook it. I will be damned it the stuff didn't suds just a little. What really got me is that the guest said they were very inexpensive. Turns out that for me, and many others right here in the US and many places around they world, they are free for the picking !!!

NOT ONLY ARE THEY FREE FOR THE PICKING, BUT NOW SEEMS TO BE THE RIGHT TIME TO GATHER THEM !!!! I JUST GOT A WHOLE 3LB BUTTER DISH FULL TODAY IN ABOUT 10 MINS ( -- walking time) :)

( sorry about the caps, but I am just so damned excited )

I was thrown for a loop with everyone calling the thingies Soap Nuts. Turns out they are the "fruit" ( do not eat ! ) of the China Berry Tree common to many areas in the US. I happen to be in Austin TX. I first looked on-line and found them for sale- and I will say it would be much less expensive to buy them over store detergent. I actually purchased a sample, but I had it sent to my "bestie", Ms. J since I could not afford them for both of us and she likes to try new things too. Hers have still not arrived. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroonies !

Well... I wanted to try them too, so I went to my local Whole Foods who does not carry them. I decided to look the tree up and viola ! I must be blessed because after some thought and personal debating about finances and on-line purchases, I found them all over the place here in Austin. I have read that they grow from OK, AZ, TX, to FL, and in between - how awesome is that ?

OK, so I went all "Urban Primitive" ( I hope I am making up a new phrase lol - go me ! ) and gathered my Soap Nuts/ China Berries near a local bus stop off on the edge of the woods in about 10 mins or so- somewhere I am as certain as I can be that no pesticides are being used. There they were, on a naked tree and hanging in groups. Yellowish hard berries- REALLY hard to miss or mistake for something else. To the touch the skin is wrinkly and has a slight waxy feel to it with a hard core. I pulled the skin back and it is just white or a lighter yellow ( my eyes aren't what they used to be) and kind of thicker waxy feeling stuff. :)

The idea is that it takes 3-4 soap nuts per load. You can re-use them once if you washed in cold. ( IDK how I feel about that lol ) and your clothes come out with NO SCENT. Allergen friendly and all that jazz ~!

I brought the berries home and separated them from their stems and put them all in a left over 3lb butter dish for keeping. I am not sure if you really have to do much of removing the tiny grape like stems, but I did it while watching the news. Then I cut up some old panty hose into about 5`` pieces - tying one end closed. I also cut a sock up into 1`` pieces- tell you why in just a second :) . I then placed a piece of sock in the open end of the stocking piece and added 5 Nut things and tied it closed. All of the web sites said 3-4 but I am always putting more in than the recommended amount with cleaning products, so I just did what I always do. LOL

Then because I LIKE SCENT in my laundry and I had some Lavender essential oil, I added several drops to the sock piece right through the closed stocking. I grabbed my sons nasty skateboarding clothes and some other crap from around the house and threw it all in the washer. I checked once while the washer was full and the water looked nasty like it always does at that point... lol ewwwwwwwwwwww. When all was said and done, the close were bright, and even my daughter (17) agreed that there was no "icky boy smell" left- only a nice light lavender. The 1st load is in the dryer now.... :)

The next load is towels. Re-using the nuts from the 1st load, I will let you know what I think ... lol


So far, I am loving this !!! Next I am going to try to make liquid soap for the clothes washer and the dishwasher - maybe even some shampoo ! The options are limitless- websites give recipes for all of this and even more cleaning products right down to window washer !

LINKS

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.healthynaturalcleaner.com]

I didn't really check this one out, I just found it, but it sounds really good and I will be looking at it :)

[link to soapnuts.com]

this is the one I ordered from for Ms. J

[link to www.buysoapnuts.com]





Pictures so you can find them for free too !

This one seems to be in the spring or so... I am not sure if my description of look and feel applies here. They might not be as wrinkly lol
[link to www.naturallaundrysoap.net]



This is more what it looked like to me.. this picture depicts very tall trees. I am 5`4ish ( which means less) and I found many I could reach with no problems or tools at all.

[link to farm1.static.flickr.com]



OK XOXO ALL ROUND.... I am not signing this because I am posting it places I don't admit to going. LOL
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really... nobody? *sigh*
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That's pretty cool!
You should post this in one (or more) of the Recession Proof threads too!

Those berries are a huge nuisance and now I know what to do with them... Thanks CI!
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I like it! money grows on trees theme

wish they grew here in va
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That's pretty cool!
You should post this in one (or more) of the Recession Proof threads too!

Those berries are a huge nuisance and now I know what to do with them... Thanks CI!
hf
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thank you :)


I don't know what that is......recession proof threads?

I am only on the 4th load and I can see some adjustments need to be made to suit my taste. I really REALLY like good smellin laundry and I saturated the original "sock piece" with LAvender, but the scent didn't make it as strongly through the dryer phase as I would have liked. It would have been perfect for air drying clothes though.

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I like it! money grows on trees theme

wish they grew here in va
 Quoting: the Questeon? 348793



Iiddnt lie when I said I was poor and I researched the costs, I may not be the best at math- but it seems to be cost effective to me. Cheaper than major brands even with shipping.

AND... seriously.. look it up. Seems to me like it may grow more places than I can find. I am kinda short, and I was able to reach many of the berries from a tree that can grow 40` tall- so it is seriously possible that people up north could mistake them for a weed. A weed that has these berry like thingies...
AH
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I don't know what that is......recession proof threads?

:aflowers:
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Here you go...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

These threads are a goldmine of information! You owe it to yourself to check them out if you like the berries!

One option might be to check out soap making scents. These will hold their aroma much better through the wash and without so much oiliness. They are not terribly expensive either. I usually get mine off of eBay.

hf
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Dunno if those soap berries grow over here in the UK.. but shall look out for them.. I might ask at the market or Neals Yard or somewhere like that. I got some detergent for free recently.. when I raided my cousins cupboard.. but don't worry I didn't take it all.. lol.. I don't think he noticed.
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Oops... got logged out

Here's links to some more info... There are 12 varieties of these trees, some grown as ornamental plants in the USA that are native to Asia.

[link to davesgarden.com]
[link to perrone.blogs.com]
[link to www.greenlivingtips.com]

Yucca root works the same way, but is a pain to dig up.
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Dunno if those soap berries grow over here in the UK.. but shall look out for them.. I might ask at the market or Neals Yard or somewhere like that. I got some detergent for free recently.. when I raided my cousins cupboard.. but don't worry I didn't take it all.. lol.. I don't think he noticed.
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call or google your local parks department. When I looked up where I live, I found out that we actually plant them :)
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Here's links to some more info... There are 12 varieties of these trees, some grown as ornamental plants in the USA that are native to Asia.

[link to davesgarden.com]
[link to perrone.blogs.com]
[link to www.greenlivingtips.com]

Yucca root works the same way, but is a pain to dig up.
 Quoting: SouthernLight



Thank you SO much Southern :) I appreaciate the added links, effort, and help.

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I don't know what that is......recession proof threads?

:aflowers:


Here you go...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

These threads are a goldmine of information! You owe it to yourself to check them out if you like the berries!

One option might be to check out soap making scents. These will hold their aroma much better through the wash and without so much oiliness. They are not terribly expensive either. I usually get mine off of eBay.

hf
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Thank you AC # something or other :) I am at the end of my rope tonight, so I am off to dream land. I will SO check those links and info out. I appreaciate your time :)

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I like it! money grows on trees theme

wish they grew here in va
 Quoting: the Questeon? 348793



they totally might :) look at other responses and ask your local parks dept.

Egads... I am done- stick a fork in my ass, I am D.O.N.E.
lol


have to be up early in the morn and I aint as spry as I used to be

XOXOO~!


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Don't know about the soapy nuts but natural soap definitely. And all soaps should be natural not petro-chem detergents.

I'm not on city utilities so all those chemicals leach into the backyard which can go right to the garden.
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I bought 1 kilo a year ago and am still using them!
I got rid of a shit load of other products and use the soap nuts to clean almost everything. In the washing machine i add drops o essential oils for smell. You can make your own shampoo, body soap, dishwasher cleaner... whatever

I tell people and give them berries to try.

They still think i am nuts!

LOL
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Don't know about the soapy nuts but natural soap definitely. And all soaps should be natural not petro-chem detergents.

I'm not on city utilities so all those chemicals leach into the backyard which can go right to the garden.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 591836



Thats another benefit of these soap nuts, after they are spent everything I am readong recommends throwing them into the compost pile !
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I bought 1 kilo a year ago and am still using them!
I got rid of a shit load of other products and use the soap nuts to clean almost everything. In the washing machine i add drops o essential oils for smell. You can make your own shampoo, body soap, dishwasher cleaner... whatever

I tell people and give them berries to try.

They still think i am nuts!

LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 591970



WOW, they sure do last a while, huh ?

I really loved the things in the washer, and I added the essential oil too. I think the clothes smelled amazing after the wash, but lost much of the scent in the dryer. I am going to have to see what to add to my dryer now to help - but I seriously think I am a convert. I will never use store detergent again if I can help it :)

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Now I'm confused! I have trees in my yard that were said to be "Chinaberry" trees. I have heard, also, that they are "Chinese Tallow" trees, which grow berries. So, I did a search. They have different botanical names, but the trees are quite similar.

Chinese Tallow Tree oil was used successfully as an emergency source of fuel for diesel equipment operated by Chinese and Allied forces during the Second World War, and its application as a renewable diesel and jet engine fuel has been further investigated more recently in Germany and the United States.

(Sapium sebiferum L)

[link to www.inventionconvention.com]

Chinese Tallow - many pics

[link to www.galvbayinvasives.org]

Plants prohibited in Texas - pics (Includes Chinese Tallow)

[link to www.galvbayinvasives.org]

Chinaberry Tree

(Melia azedarach)
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Now I'm confused! I have trees in my yard that were said to be "Chinaberry" trees. I have heard, also, that they are "Chinese Tallow" trees, which grow berries. So, I did a search. They have different botanical names, but the trees are quite similar.

Chinese Tallow Tree oil was used successfully as an emergency source of fuel for diesel equipment operated by Chinese and Allied forces during the Second World War, and its application as a renewable diesel and jet engine fuel has been further investigated more recently in Germany and the United States.

(Sapium sebiferum L)

[link to www.inventionconvention.com]

Chinese Tallow - many pics

[link to www.galvbayinvasives.org]

Plants prohibited in Texas - pics (Includes Chinese Tallow)

[link to www.galvbayinvasives.org]

Chinaberry Tree

(Melia azedarach)
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 592020


I checked out the pics in the link you provided. I think they are 2 seperate kind of trees. The ones you are looking at are a Chinese Tallow which also has "berries" and are SERIOUSLY poisonous.

The leaves and the grouping of the berries for the china berry tree I refer to are completely different. Check out the links for pics I put up. These are more grouped kinda like loose grapes.


In the wiki link, they have the long ass science name :) and more descriptions. :) I'm sorry I confused you- and I glad you brought it up.
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Thanks for your response, CI. I did some more searching:

Chinaberry Tree

(Melia azedarach)

Fruits are poisonous to humans if eaten in quantity.[2] ... The first symptoms of poisoning appear a few hours after ingestion. They may include loss of appetite, vomiting, constipation or diarrhea, bloody faeces, stomach pain, pulmonary congestion, cardiac arrest, rigidity, lack of coordination and general weakness. Death may take place after about 24 hours. ...

(pics here)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

All parts of Chinaberry tree are poisonous. Eating as few as 6 berries can result in death. Birds (including mockingbirds, robins, and catbirds) that eat too many seeds have been known to become paralyzed.

[link to www.floridata.com]

This deciduous tree produces purplish fragrant flowers, afterwards followed by yellow fruits (berries), that are very poisonous.
The hard seeds are easily dispersed by birds; these seeds are also very poisonous.

Medicinal applications
Bark - and fruit extract is used to kill parasitic roundworms.


[link to www.tropilab.com]

Best Pic of Chinaberry Tree:

[link to www.smugmug.com]

Compare Pic with Chinese Tallow! They look to be identical:

[link to www.galvbayinvasives.org]

If they are not the same, except for the botanical names, then they must be cousins. However, both are poisonous.

My thought here was to determine what species I have in my yard. Perhaps either can be used for soap.
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Thanks for your response, CI. I did some more searching:

Chinaberry Tree

(Melia azedarach)

Fruits are poisonous to humans if eaten in quantity.[2] ... The first symptoms of poisoning appear a few hours after ingestion. They may include loss of appetite, vomiting, constipation or diarrhea, bloody faeces, stomach pain, pulmonary congestion, cardiac arrest, rigidity, lack of coordination and general weakness. Death may take place after about 24 hours. ...

(pics here)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

All parts of Chinaberry tree are poisonous. Eating as few as 6 berries can result in death. Birds (including mockingbirds, robins, and catbirds) that eat too many seeds have been known to become paralyzed.

[link to www.floridata.com]

This deciduous tree produces purplish fragrant flowers, afterwards followed by yellow fruits (berries), that are very poisonous.
The hard seeds are easily dispersed by birds; these seeds are also very poisonous.

Medicinal applications
Bark - and fruit extract is used to kill parasitic roundworms.


[link to www.tropilab.com]

Best Pic of Chinaberry Tree:

[link to www.smugmug.com]

Compare Pic with Chinese Tallow! They look to be identical:

[link to www.galvbayinvasives.org]

If they are not the same, except for the botanical names, then they must be cousins. However, both are poisonous.

My thought here was to determine what species I have in my yard. Perhaps either can be used for soap.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 592144


Good to know about the dangers since I have a little one I watch every day :)

These are the ones I found. See how the leaves are longer than the pics you are looking at ? Yours are more of a heart shaped leaf. And instead of the berries appearing to "drip" in a straight line off the branch , mine were more branched out like grapes.

[link to www.naturallaundrysoap.net]


As I understand it, there are several different varieties ( see poster above- Owl I think) so it is entirely possible they are "cousins".

As for the ones in your yard.. why not grab one and see how it feels to you ? Read some of the descriptions online to see if it sounds the same as you are experiencing. Maybe stick a few in warm water and a tupperware kinda thing- shake em and see what happens ! lol I am not very eloquent, but I tried to be as "down to earth" descriptive as I could be ;)

I was about to make the liquid soap and discovered a spewing water pipe in the laundry area... so I will be busy for a little bit cleaning up ! lol Too bad I don't have the soap ready NOW .
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Thanks for your response, CI. I did some more searching:

Chinaberry Tree

(Melia azedarach)

Fruits are poisonous to humans if eaten in quantity.[2] ... The first symptoms of poisoning appear a few hours after ingestion. They may include loss of appetite, vomiting, constipation or diarrhea, bloody faeces, stomach pain, pulmonary congestion, cardiac arrest, rigidity, lack of coordination and general weakness. Death may take place after about 24 hours. ...

(pics here)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

All parts of Chinaberry tree are poisonous. Eating as few as 6 berries can result in death. Birds (including mockingbirds, robins, and catbirds) that eat too many seeds have been known to become paralyzed.

[link to www.floridata.com]

This deciduous tree produces purplish fragrant flowers, afterwards followed by yellow fruits (berries), that are very poisonous.
The hard seeds are easily dispersed by birds; these seeds are also very poisonous.

Medicinal applications
Bark - and fruit extract is used to kill parasitic roundworms.


[link to www.tropilab.com]

Best Pic of Chinaberry Tree:

[link to www.smugmug.com]

Compare Pic with Chinese Tallow! They look to be identical:

[link to www.galvbayinvasives.org]

If they are not the same, except for the botanical names, then they must be cousins. However, both are poisonous.

My thought here was to determine what species I have in my yard. Perhaps either can be used for soap.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 592144



OMGosh, you got me all paranoid and self doubting ! LOL After re-reading your findings and cleaning my entire laundry room from the busted pipe, I went through a huge moment of self doubt. Never a bad thing when we are talking about possibly poisonous stuff !


My niece got cranky and I even wondered if I had lost a few berries and she found them... but I think she was just stressing over me stressing about the broken pipe deal.

I went ahead and boiled some of my berry things, let it cool and then put it in a bottle to shake up- sure enough it got sudsy and even held them for about 15 minutes :)I feel a little bit re-assured now ( even though, mine match the ones many people are selling and I swear I did my homework).

Did you find out anything about the tree you have in your yard ?
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planted a melia or indian bead tree
twenty plus years ago..
all the neighbourhood kids have always climbed it
sat in it swung off it none of them
ate the berries lol

having bought fancy washing detergents
for years and all the pre soak
stuff ..

Anyhow I hit on a mega no fuss cheap method
of getting all grease,
stains and major grime from all clothing
just bought some el cheapo bars of
scented ordinary soap ( its got ridges
on one side)from the 2 dollar store
totally useless for personal soap so waste
not want not I dampened some
and rubbed it on oil stained clothing
i.e motor mechanics work gear..
through the clothing in the machine on a
warm cycle and hey presto
all that muck n grease was gone!
Works like a charm you can see the grease
dissolving and I am guessing
the bars of soap are made in asia.

Who woulda guessed !! :)
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time to gather soap nuts :) !!!!
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Thanks for your response, CI. I did some more searching:

Chinaberry Tree

(Melia azedarach)

Fruits are poisonous to humans if eaten in quantity.[2] ... The first symptoms of poisoning appear a few hours after ingestion. They may include loss of appetite, vomiting, constipation or diarrhea, bloody faeces, stomach pain, pulmonary congestion, cardiac arrest, rigidity, lack of coordination and general weakness. Death may take place after about 24 hours. ...

(pics here)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

All parts of Chinaberry tree are poisonous. Eating as few as 6 berries can result in death. Birds (including mockingbirds, robins, and catbirds) that eat too many seeds have been known to become paralyzed.

[link to www.floridata.com]

This deciduous tree produces purplish fragrant flowers, afterwards followed by yellow fruits (berries), that are very poisonous.
The hard seeds are easily dispersed by birds; these seeds are also very poisonous.

Medicinal applications
Bark - and fruit extract is used to kill parasitic roundworms.


[link to www.tropilab.com]

Best Pic of Chinaberry Tree:

[link to www.smugmug.com]

Compare Pic with Chinese Tallow! They look to be identical:

[link to www.galvbayinvasives.org]

If they are not the same, except for the botanical names, then they must be cousins. However, both are poisonous.

My thought here was to determine what species I have in my yard. Perhaps either can be used for soap.
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OMGosh, you got me all paranoid and self doubting ! LOL After re-reading your findings and cleaning my entire laundry room from the busted pipe, I went through a huge moment of self doubt. Never a bad thing when we are talking about possibly poisonous stuff !


My niece got cranky and I even wondered if I had lost a few berries and she found them... but I think she was just stressing over me stressing about the broken pipe deal.

I went ahead and boiled some of my berry things, let it cool and then put it in a bottle to shake up- sure enough it got sudsy and even held them for about 15 minutes :)I feel a little bit re-assured now ( even though, mine match the ones many people are selling and I swear I did my homework).

Did you find out anything about the tree you have in your yard ?
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please let me stress that the "berries" have no berry effect, they are not squishable- they are hard to the touch and a little wrinkly. Easy to find call your local parks department. :)
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planted a melia or indian bead tree
twenty plus years ago..
all the neighbourhood kids have always climbed it
sat in it swung off it none of them
ate the berries lol

having bought fancy washing detergents
for years and all the pre soak
stuff ..

Anyhow I hit on a mega no fuss cheap method
of getting all grease,
stains and major grime from all clothing
just bought some el cheapo bars of
scented ordinary soap ( its got ridges
on one side)from the 2 dollar store
totally useless for personal soap so waste
not want not I dampened some
and rubbed it on oil stained clothing
i.e motor mechanics work gear..
through the clothing in the machine on a
warm cycle and hey presto
all that muck n grease was gone!
Works like a charm you can see the grease
dissolving and I am guessing
the bars of soap are made in asia.

Who woulda guessed !! :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 592481



dag- gonnit- I missed this one last yr-- thnx for replying great info !
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its time to go gathering !!!
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I had to laugh at that list of plants prohibited in Texas. Several of those plants are VERY common in the Valley and sold at many nurseries. My brother used to toast marshmallows using oleander branches so I'm skeptical of any VERY POISONOUS labels...USUALLY you have to really pig out on them to do any damage.

Thanks for this info, OP. Chinaberries are very common down here...and murder on bare feet.
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Nice thread, CuriouslyIncognito. Makes my day to see someone interested in herbs. If you really want to get excited, google Soapwort. Latin name is Saponaria officionalis. Saponaria is from Latin, "soap."

Also google Scouring Rush, or Horsetail. Latin name Equisetum hyemale. From the word "horse".

I could babble on forever about herbs, but it would take away the joy of discovery. Google them. You'll be set forever in cleaning supplies. hf

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