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Protest against Bulgarian government turned out pretty nice today:


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why were they rioting? Economy?
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why were they rioting? Economy?
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Because they live in Bulgaria?
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Ive seen a couple videos on youtube looks like a LOT of cops they are in my opinion... very prepared
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looks like an eastern eu mosh pit...
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Guy I know is from Bulgaria. He and his wife went back there this fall for a couple of weeks. They came back and said it had changed and they didn't want to go back anymore.

He said that he remembered it as a beautiful, clean, orderly and friendly country but it now was a mess. Weeds growing through the streets. Zoo was falling apart and the animals weren't cared for. Litter all over the place.
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Economic conditions are bad everywhere. Stupid people riot when things are bad. It always happens, even in the United States.
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yay! it is geography time.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Because they live in Bulgaria

lol.
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why were they rioting? Economy?
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Your impression is correct..

Recession sparks riots in Sofia and Riga
[link to www.irishtimes.com]

RIOTS HAVE rocked the capitals of Bulgaria and Latvia as deepening economic strife grips eastern members of the European Union.

Hundreds of Bulgarians clashed with police in Sofia yesterday after about 2,000 people massed outside parliament for the latest in a series of anti-government protests.

Police efforts to disperse the gathering drew a furious response as some began smashing cars and tearing up cobblestones to hurl at shop windows and passing buses.

“We are fed up with living in the poorest and most corrupt country,” the protest organisers said. “This a unique protest which unites the people in their wish for change and their wish to live in a normal European country.”

The rally brought together farmers who complain of low prices and problems with EU subsidies, and students who have mounted an anti-crime campaign since one of them was murdered in a recent street attack.

Widespread anger at the perceived corruption and incompetence of Bulgaria’s leaders has been exacerbated by the current gas crisis, in which the Balkan state has suffered severe heating and power shortages due to its total reliance on Russia for energy.

The clashes in Sofia, which left several injured and more than 50 in police custody, came just hours after Latvia suffered its worst street violence since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

At least eight were injured and more than 100 arrested after a 10,000-strong anti-government protest descended into rioting.

Two police vehicles were destroyed and shops were smashed up and looted.

Years of strong economic growth have given way to recession in Latvia, where inflation is high, unemployment rising and allegations of corruption rife.

“Trust in the state’s authority and officials has fallen catastrophically,” said president Valdis Zatlers. He said unless politicians passed a law allowing Latvians to vote for the dissolution of parliament, he would take measures that could lead to snap elections.




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Economic conditions are bad everywhere. Stupid people riot when things are bad. It always happens, even in the United States.
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You say stupid, I say fed up.
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Please pin this thread... we need a translator




This will be Atlanta, Detroit, etc...


people look at it.. see it now cause when its happening near you... you should be in phase five of your preps and away from the cities

get a good look now not later
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bump

I m afraid things are going to get worse
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You gotta read this - [link to www.baltictimes.com]

it says -

RIGA – Latvian President Valdis Zatlers has issued an ultimatum to the parliament, saying he will dissolve the legislature if does not agree to a series of constitutional amendments that would give the people more control over the government.

Zatlers issued the ultimatum in response to the riots that tore through Riga’s OldTown on Tuesday, leaving numerous rioters and police officers injured and causing thousands of euros in damages. The riots followed a massive protest calling for the dissolution of Parliament.

"The main thing right now is to look at the reasons as to why people gathered in Dome Square to express their views. The main reason is that trust in the government and in government officials has collapsed catastrophically. The Saeima (Latvian parliament) and the Cabinet of Ministers have lost links with the voters. I have said on several occasions in the past that trust can be regained only if specific things are done," Zatlers said.

The president said that Parliament would have until March 31 to appease three of his demands. He said the demands were formed in response to the people’s lack of confidence in the government.

The first demand was that the parliament passes amendments to the constitution giving people the right to directly dissolve the legislature. He said that he would submit the final version of his proposals – which would make Latvia the only country in the EU where people could directly dissolve parliament – within one week.

The second demand was that Parliament amend the law on elections to eliminate the practice of election tickets being headed by a single figurehead and to outlaw the practice of Parliamentarians switching parties between elections.

The third demand was for the parliament to create a supervisory board to oversee the country’s economic recovery plan and the spending of the 7.5 billion euro loan recently secured by the country.

The president also said that the government needs to submit a reorganization plan within one week and called for the creation of a “reconciliation government.” He demanded that the government appoint a new head to the anti-corruption bureau – which has gone without leadership for months – as soon as possible.
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You gotta read this - [link to www.baltictimes.com]

it says -

RIGA – Latvian President Valdis Zatlers has issued an ultimatum to the parliament, saying he will dissolve the legislature if does not agree to a series of constitutional amendments that would give the people more control over the government.

Zatlers issued the ultimatum in response to the riots that tore through Riga’s OldTown on Tuesday, leaving numerous rioters and police officers injured and causing thousands of euros in damages. The riots followed a massive protest calling for the dissolution of Parliament.

"The main thing right now is to look at the reasons as to why people gathered in Dome Square to express their views. The main reason is that trust in the government and in government officials has collapsed catastrophically. The Saeima (Latvian parliament) and the Cabinet of Ministers have lost links with the voters. I have said on several occasions in the past that trust can be regained only if specific things are done," Zatlers said.

The president said that Parliament would have until March 31 to appease three of his demands. He said the demands were formed in response to the people’s lack of confidence in the government.

The first demand was that the parliament passes amendments to the constitution giving people the right to directly dissolve the legislature. He said that he would submit the final version of his proposals – which would make Latvia the only country in the EU where people could directly dissolve parliament – within one week.

The second demand was that Parliament amend the law on elections to eliminate the practice of election tickets being headed by a single figurehead and to outlaw the practice of Parliamentarians switching parties between elections.

The third demand was for the parliament to create a supervisory board to oversee the country’s economic recovery plan and the spending of the 7.5 billion euro loan recently secured by the country.

The president also said that the government needs to submit a reorganization plan within one week and called for the creation of a “reconciliation government.” He demanded that the government appoint a new head to the anti-corruption bureau – which has gone without leadership for months – as soon as possible.
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bump

I m afraid things are going to get worse
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You gotta read this - [link to www.baltictimes.com]

it says -

RIGA – Latvian President Valdis Zatlers has issued an ultimatum to the parliament, saying he will dissolve the legislature if does not agree to a series of constitutional amendments that would give the people more control over the government.

Zatlers issued the ultimatum in response to the riots that tore through Riga’s OldTown on Tuesday, leaving numerous rioters and police officers injured and causing thousands of euros in damages. The riots followed a massive protest calling for the dissolution of Parliament.

"The main thing right now is to look at the reasons as to why people gathered in Dome Square to express their views. The main reason is that trust in the government and in government officials has collapsed catastrophically. The Saeima (Latvian parliament) and the Cabinet of Ministers have lost links with the voters. I have said on several occasions in the past that trust can be regained only if specific things are done," Zatlers said.

The president said that Parliament would have until March 31 to appease three of his demands. He said the demands were formed in response to the people’s lack of confidence in the government.

The first demand was that the parliament passes amendments to the constitution giving people the right to directly dissolve the legislature. He said that he would submit the final version of his proposals – which would make Latvia the only country in the EU where people could directly dissolve parliament – within one week.

The second demand was that Parliament amend the law on elections to eliminate the practice of election tickets being headed by a single figurehead and to outlaw the practice of Parliamentarians switching parties between elections.

The third demand was for the parliament to create a supervisory board to oversee the country’s economic recovery plan and the spending of the 7.5 billion euro loan recently secured by the country.

The president also said that the government needs to submit a reorganization plan within one week and called for the creation of a “reconciliation government.” He demanded that the government appoint a new head to the anti-corruption bureau – which has gone without leadership for months – as soon as possible.
 Quoting: hap 588954



What are the chances that these demands are met?
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You gotta read this - [link to www.baltictimes.com]

it says -

"....The president said that Parliament would have until March 31 to appease three of his demands. He said the demands were formed in response to the people’s lack of confidence in the government.

The first demand was that the parliament passes amendments to the constitution giving people the right to directly dissolve the legislature."




We (U.S.) need to inaugurate THIS guy guy Jan 20.
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I`m live in Sofia so i`ll try to make a synopsis of what happened.
The protest was organized in the internet, which is great. The students tried to demand some things of secondary importance, but most of the people were protesting against the government or the system.
At the first day (14th) there were 2 conspiracies. First one was some people who were paid to fight against the police, and after that, police started to beat people, even people not at this place, i heared someone even died, but it can`t be confirmed.
And the second conspiracy was that there was a "bomb", so the protest was officially cancelled.
The second day people were less, maybe 1000 or so, which is too little, people here are really too apatic and hardly protest, no matter what`s happening. Plus, the second day many were scared, of course.
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I`m live in Sofia so i`ll try to make a synopsis of what happened.
The protest was organized in the internet, which is great. The students tried to demand some things of secondary importance, but most of the people were protesting against the government or the system.
At the first day (14th) there were 2 conspiracies. First one was some people who were paid to fight against the police, and after that, police started to beat people, even people not at this place, i heared someone even died, but it can`t be confirmed.
And the second conspiracy was that there was a "bomb", so the protest was officially cancelled.
The second day people were less, maybe 1000 or so, which is too little, people here are really too apatic and hardly protest, no matter what`s happening. Plus, the second day many were scared, of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255

Oh, and to add, some journalists were hit as well (From Channel 3) and police triedto broke their camera, but their brutality was seen aniway. Some children and women were attacked either.
Police is the same everywhere - evil sheeple, government-slaves.
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I`m live in Sofia so i`ll try to make a synopsis of what happened.
The protest was organized in the internet, which is great. The students tried to demand some things of secondary importance, but most of the people were protesting against the government or the system.
At the first day (14th) there were 2 conspiracies. First one was some people who were paid to fight against the police, and after that, police started to beat people, even people not at this place, i heared someone even died, but it can`t be confirmed.
And the second conspiracy was that there was a "bomb", so the protest was officially cancelled.
The second day people were less, maybe 1000 or so, which is too little, people here are really too apatic and hardly protest, no matter what`s happening. Plus, the second day many were scared, of course.

Oh, and to add, some journalists were hit as well (From Channel 3) and police triedto broke their camera, but their brutality was seen aniway. Some children and women were attacked either.
Police is the same everywhere - evil sheeple, government-slaves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255


thanks for the report

what changes do the student want the government to make ???
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I`m live in Sofia so i`ll try to make a synopsis of what happened.
The protest was organized in the internet, which is great. The students tried to demand some things of secondary importance, but most of the people were protesting against the government or the system.
At the first day (14th) there were 2 conspiracies. First one was some people who were paid to fight against the police, and after that, police started to beat people, even people not at this place, i heared someone even died, but it can`t be confirmed.
And the second conspiracy was that there was a "bomb", so the protest was officially cancelled.
The second day people were less, maybe 1000 or so, which is too little, people here are really too apatic and hardly protest, no matter what`s happening. Plus, the second day many were scared, of course.

Oh, and to add, some journalists were hit as well (From Channel 3) and police triedto broke their camera, but their brutality was seen aniway. Some children and women were attacked either.
Police is the same everywhere - evil sheeple, government-slaves.


thanks for the report

what changes do the student want the government to make ???
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor

Well for example they wanted fast punishment for a murder who killed a student and some other student-specific things, mainly regarding the student town in Sofia. They are wright, of course (Our student town is a little ghettolike), but they still didn`t demand any punishment for the government as whole, so i think it was good that people were not protesting only about these demands.
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why were they rioting? Economy?
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Because Bulgaria is the poorest country in the EU.
Or maybe because the government and local crime bosses work together.
Take a good look at those people- they are disarmed slaves.You can only buy air rifle or gas weapon without a permit. And it is not easy to obtain one, perhaps only if you are a security guard or a hunter.
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this is gonna spread...internationally by march this year

watch china especially

then the USA
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this is gonna spread...internationally by march this year

watch china especially

then the USA
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Yup, of course society`s reaction`snot perfect, but it`s still a good beginning and thingsare getting better and that`s what we need, a global riot against TPTB`s tiranny hf
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BTW, now protests are scheduled for the weekend, too. One of them will be in demand to be reopened some of the Kozloduy atomic plant`s blocks. They were closed because of the EU`s demand and our politics` usual ass-licking behaviour. I seriously think without EU every single country would be better.
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The protesters will come better prepared next time. That then ups the anti on the police's side, which leads onto Martial Law (the government waging war on it's own people) and then civil war.

And people wonder why some of us can see WWIII approaching!
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Riots in Bulgaria are against the government and the political system that rules the country.
Basic problem is that Bulgaria is too dependent on external “partners” like EU and Russia.
Mafia is stronger than the police and the government and it is hard to say who is who.
This causes a lot of problems for the locals and instability for the country.

Note that what happens in Bulgaria is more like protest and not like riot.
Some mafia persons tried to start the fight – there were 20-30 people paid to throw things on the police.
Ordinary people are peaceful and they don’t go to fight, but to show that something is wrong.

Don’t believe to the nasty propaganda on the news!
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Riots in Bulgaria are against the government and the political system that rules the country.
Basic problem is that Bulgaria is too dependent on external “partners” like EU and Russia.
Mafia is stronger than the police and the government and it is hard to say who is who.
This causes a lot of problems for the locals and instability for the country.

Note that what happens in Bulgaria is more like protest and not like riot.
Some mafia persons tried to start the fight – there were 20-30 people paid to throw things on the police.
Ordinary people are peaceful and they don’t go to fight, but to show that something is wrong.

Don’t believe to the nasty propaganda on the news!
 Quoting: abc 591250

Yea, they are actually too peaceful and patient, that`s why the mafia`s so strong...
We didn`t even kill the dictator in 1990 (Romanians did it and now they are better than us, and they were worse).
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Economic conditions are bad everywhere. Stupid people riot when things are bad. It always happens, even in the United States.

You say stupid, I say fed up.
 Quoting: A Concerned Canadian


I'll bump that comment.

The people who protest are the same people who know who is responsible for the conditions to begin with. The "stupid" ones are those who sit at home and nod at their television sets..
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Economic conditions are bad everywhere. Stupid people riot when things are bad. It always happens, even in the United States.

You say stupid, I say fed up.


I'll bump that comment.

The people who protest are the same people who know who is responsible for the conditions to begin with. The "stupid" ones are those who sit at home and nod at their television sets..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589089

Actually it`s often the opposite, unfortunately. Many of the protesters think that certain people are responsible. And many who do nothing know that the whole system is rotten and it would be extremely hard to change anything.

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