No Planets!!!!! No earth revolving around the sun!!!!! No probe on Mars!!!!! No more science-fiction!!!!! No more make-believe!!!!!

Punisher, I use a scope to view saturn and its rings and can track the changing of the rings position as time goes by.

How would you explain this?





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I SAID PROVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!

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Very cold there son. And its just ICE.
[link to bookofenoch.100webspace.net]

- How could you see what's not there?

- How could the Planets exist if GOD didn't create them?

- Why are all the Planets named after Greek Gods? (fallen angels)


- Why do you love the Father of lies so much?


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Actually yes, no one on earth that was not using Doppler radar or satellites would be able to see the circular motions of these massive cloud systems that cover several states at once.
I suppose that is one were to stand on top of Mount Everest, and observe long enough, they may see it. I don't know, I have never been on top of a mountain.

Not that these truths matter to you, you refuse to even consider them. You refuse to even think, you simply insult people and claim your right because a book that HUMANS wrote makes a vague mention of it. That is not proof.
The Bible does not prove anything. It is a collection of stories, that have been handed down throughout thousands of years. And changed, many times.
If the bible is God's undeniable word, then why has it been changed so often.
And who are you to tell God that he did not create anything other then earth??? That is pretty bold, for a believer such as yourself.

Go to: [link to www.youtube.com]

And watch some of those videos about the Deep Space Field that the Hubble telescope allows us to see.
If you can open your mind for a while, you may realize just how small and insignificant our little planet really is.
If you do watch them with just an sliver of your mind open you will be amazed. But I feel that you won't.

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You see??????

He is IMPOSSIBLE TO REASON WITH!!!!!!!!!!!!

He tells someone that is looking right at a planet, that they are a liar.

He shows a picture of a ship next to a glacier and calls it an ice wall.

I think he has a problem understanding just how small humans are compared to the earth.

I went through and read alot of your posts and they all have one thing in common. You base your logic on the fact that if you cannot see it personally then it must not be real. Additionaly, if it is not in the a particular version of your bible then it is also not real.

Well, i cannot see your God so he must not be real. I cannot hear him nor can i smell him. When is the last time you took a picture of God?

If you spoke to him how is that since he is not real?

And by the way, that ice wall in that link is not the edge of the world. You can distinctly see water in that pic.

LOL!

I don't like modern day science either, Punisher.

Just not nearly as much as you.




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I think Punisher has jumped the shark.

The Punisher is an energy vampire. Do not feed him.

- No-one on earth can see the puffy clouds?

- No-one on earth would see these puffy clouds in a swirl?


O K A Y !!!!

I tell it like it is, that's the kind of guy I am.


Yes!!!!!! From the Book of Enoch, I can't believe you got this right!!!!!!


GOD mentioned alot things at creation, but not a single word about other Worlds, not one, not one single word through-out the whole Book (Bible-BoE). Not one single prophet made a peep about other Worlds.


Not - Moses.

Not - David.

Not - Solomon.

Not - the Apostles.


No-one, not one single man of GOD, Isaiah - Ezekiel, nobody. And yet this stupidity was around (Ancient Greece) with their round spherical earth theories, planets and boy-loving ways.


- And why are all the Planets named after FALLEN ANGELS? (Greek Gods)


Here's something for you.

Look at these satellite images from space, lol, look at those clouds, not a puffy one in the sky, just a swirl of this thin-out, stretched-out layer of white cob-web.

I look-out my neighborhood, I see puffy clouds!!!!!!!

Time for ur pills...dude :)

Dude, remember one thing...Out of all confusion u might have. I wont repeat it again.

HISTORY IS MADE BY THE ONE WHO WON !!! 'NOUGH SAID - 'DUH'

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GOD is the LORD of Spirits you moron, that makes HIM invisible. (Romans.1:20)


Yes, before it hits the Ice Wall.

[link to bookofenoch.100webspace.net]

2Enoch, Secrets, Chapter 27:

[1]And I commanded that there should be taken from light and darkness, and I said: Be thick, and it became thus, and I spread it out with the light, and it became water, and I spread it out over the darkness, below the light, and then I made firm the waters, that is to say the bottomless, and I made foundation of light around the water, and created seven circles from inside, and imaged the water like crystal wet and dry, that is to say like glass, and the circumcession of the waters and the other elements, and I showed each one of them its road, and the seven stars each one of them in its heaven, that they go thus, and I saw that it was good.

and imaged the water like crystal wet and dry, that is to say like glass,
and imaged the water like crystal wet and dry, that is to say like glass,


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History is part of creation, and the winner is the one who can STAND before the CREATOR.

Nuff said!!!! 'DOUGH'

Ahem...


Allow Me....

The Punisher has had enough of all these lies, time to clean house, and with the LORD'S help it will be sooner then anyone of yous expect.

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The following are translated into English, but are found commonly among many different Sikh to English translations. Decide for yourself.
The Sikh texts were written in the early 1600's by the Ten Guru's themselves as well as by trusted Saints of Sikhism.

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"The limits of the created universe cannot be perceived."


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"The scriptures say that there are 18,000 worlds, but in reality, there is only One Universe."

Notice the word "worlds" is plural. At that time with their technology they only knew of at least a few planets, in our own Solar System.

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"[God] is the Master who has made the world bloom; [God] makes the Universe blossom forth, fresh and green."

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"Chant, and meditate on the One God, who permeates and pervades the many beings of the whole Universe."

The many beings of the whole Universe?

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"The faithful know about all worlds and realms."

"So many worlds beyond this world-so very many!"

"So many Indras, so many moons and suns, so many worlds and lands."

"He established the many worlds and skies."

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"The devotees of many worlds dwell there."

"There are worlds upon worlds of His Creation."

These two are by far the most interesting.

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"You are the One True Lord and Master of all the other beings, of so many worlds."

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"I have searched and searched [for God], across so many worlds, but without the Name, there is no peace."

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There are just so many regrences to 'worlds, planets, solar sytems, galaxies, beings, realms, the universe' that I could quote all day long. To search the text for yourself go to www.sikhitothemax.com

Yes you can see puffy clouds on earth.

No, you will likely NOT see the cloud system move in a swirl from the ground.



No, you lie, and expect people to accept it just because you say so. You are just like what you claim Scientists are.




The Book of Enoch is a Bible, perhaps not "The Holy bible" but a Bible none the less. So you agree that you're Book was written by men and not God. Good, we are finally getting somewhere.




God did not say any of this. Mankind did. The reason planets were not mentioned in any Book that mankind wrote in those days is because Mankind had not yet discovered the planets. They had no knowledge of them, therefore they could not write about them.



I don't know why we named them after the Greek gods.

Fallen Angels????? Those are stories that were written by man in your Book of Enoch. Stories.
You agreed that you're Book was written by men, remember that.




You did not watch a single video about The Deep Space Field, did you?????



That is what clouds look like from space, they are thousands of miles away after all. If you are looking at a green grassy field from 1000 yards away, can you see each and every single blade of grass? No, you see the field.
Those images are not of individual clouds, but of entire cloud systems.

I can't do this anymore, you are proof that it is truly impossible to reason with a religious fundamentalist. you have no reason at all. You are the ultimate sheep. You read a book that man wrote, yet in that book that man wrote, they lie and say its God's word. You believe it unconditionally, and attempt to spread the lie by labeling it as truth.
You are exactly the same type of person that you says lies about science.
Good luck folks!

Yes you can see puffy clouds on earth.

No, you will likely NOT see the cloud system move in a swirl from the ground.



No, you lie, and expect people to accept it just because you say so. You are just like what you claim Scientists are.




The Book of Enoch is a Bible, perhaps not "The Holy bible" but a Bible none the less. So you agree that you're Book was written by men and not God. Good, we are finally getting somewhere.




God did not say any of this. Mankind did. The reason planets were not mentioned in any Book that mankind wrote in those days is because Mankind had not yet discovered the planets. They had no knowledge of them, therefore they could not write about them.



I don't know why we named them after the Greek gods.

Fallen Angels????? Those are stories that were written by man in your Book of Enoch. Stories.
You agreed that you're Book was written by men, remember that.




You did not watch a single video about The Deep Space Field, did you?????



That is what clouds look like from space, they are thousands of miles away after all. If you are looking at a green grassy field from 1000 yards away, can you see each and every single blade of grass? No, you see the field.
Those images are not of individual clouds, but of entire cloud systems.

I can't do this anymore, you are proof that it is truly impossible to reason with a religious fundamentalist. you have no reason at all. You are the ultimate sheep. You read a book that man wrote, yet in that book that man wrote, they lie and say its God's word. You believe it unconditionally, and attempt to spread the lie by labeling it as truth.
You are exactly the same type of person that you says lies about science.
Good luck folks!

You may not be aware, but this is a lie.

The Apostles came after the Ancient Greek empire tumbled, after their gods were removed, after the Greek knowledge of a spherical earth and Planets, after, not before, after.


We named them after Fallen Angels because there was another Fall that has taken place. These angels still pay tribute to the ones who came before them, and so will the men who have become the slaves of these angels, scientists included.


As early as 2003 the Planet UB 313 was spotted and named Eris on September 13, 2006.

2enoch - Ermis

Eris (latin Discordia) is the Greek/Roman goddess of strife and discord.


Book of Enoch was written by the Son of Man, this man is immortal, this man never died. Every book you read was written by an author who is probably already dead, if not, soon to be mortal.



- You would not talk this way if you've ever been in airplane.

- You would not talk this way if your brain was turned-on.

Clouds are puffy, and no matter at what distance they are photographed they will not change their forms and shapes. Sure they will seem smaller, but never, never, will they swirl, will they thin-out, will they stretch-out like a white layer cob-webs.


I didn't ask you to draw faces in the clouds, don't ask me to chase grass-hoppers.


No my friend, on an airplane you can see may different fields, and all of them will retain their forms and shape, that once your back on terra-firma those shapes are recognizable.


Enoch is the Great KING, he will raise the dead and restore the Kingdom of Heaven. Enoch walked with GOD and still does, wish you could say the same, I know I can.

WOW!!!

You make no fucking sense what so ever.

How is it that you are not in a hospital?
Do your parents know these complete made up bull shit lies that you claim to believe???

Has you father kicked your ass???

He needs to.

I'm a father, I would, and will kick my son's ass if he ever starts talking like you.

You need to learn lots of respect.

You book of Enoch is a LIE!!!!!!!!!

It was written by a mortal human. Period. If you think anything else you are beyond delusional.
No one is immortal. NO ONE!!

You are being lied to about everything and you need help. Please go to your family and tell them the exact same hip deep shit you peddle to us. They can then have you placed in a facility.

But you won't, I know for a fact that you never speak about any of this to any real live person. And definitely not with the condescending disrespect that you show. Because if you ever did, you would not have the ability to type.

Damn it!

I can't believe I got so angry at some little punk misguided child.

Thank you for at least showing me that I am not as in control of my emotions as I thought. I need to do some meditating on that.
You would be a fantastic test for anger management.

I promise to never reply to another post from you again.

And no, you don't Win, you did not prove or convince me of anything except that you are a crazy bible thumping jackass.

RED-NECK!!!!!!

Believe what you want, GOD exists and science lies. And their lies and all lies that have filled the World have rendered the World to wars, famine, natural destruction and diseases.

When the World is rid of lies, the way we see the World on the six-o'clock news will change to the opposite of what we are presently seeing. There are Universal laws GOD put in motion at Creation. The earth does reprove our sins.

Science has technology, but to imply make-believe technology or theories as truth is wrong and a big lie. And this thread now proves this beyond anymore doubt.

EARTH IS FLAT!!!!!

There are Universal laws in motion, there is GOD and knowledge is imparted by HIS spirit. Science has tried to do away with GOD, but alas to no avail, for all the holes in their science theories are coming to the surface and I'm lovin the fact that I'm being instrumental in exposing them.

Sweet - page 4! We're only another 5 or 6 pages from abandoning this thread and starting a whole new one on essentially the same topic =D