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Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.

 
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Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.
The earth isn't a sphere, it doesn't revolve around the sun and neither do the planets. GOD exists, and the LORD didn't create the earth spherical, the LORD didn't create any planets, the CREATOR spread out the earth flat over the darkness - bottomless - gravity.


THE PROOF

Keep in mind the Sun is smack in the middle of the ecliptic-plane, dead center!!!!


If you were to draw a (Y) on the EQUATOR-LINE of March equinox, (Y) would be above the ECLIPTIC-PLANE at sunrise BUT would set below the ECLIPTIC-PLANE by sunset.

[link to www.physicalgeography.net]
[link to www.aapscience7.net]
[link to www.msu.edu (secure)]


The same would be true in reverse for September equinox, (Y) would rise below the ECLIPTIC-PLANE and set above. We will agree that if we could draw marking lines in the sky the trajectory of the sun for Spring and Autumn (only) would cross in an (X)-formation at the ECLIPTIC-PLANE.


In the June solstice position sunrise at the EQUATOR-LINE would occur leveled to the ECLIPTIC-PLANE, and (Y) would spend all day below the ECLIPTIC-PLANE, it would only rise to set horizontally at sunset. The spherical explanation of why the sun is so high in the sky during summer.

Summer Solstice.
[link to img390.imageshack.us]


In the December solstice, sunrise again begins flush to the ECLIPTIC-PLANE only in this season (Y) remains all day above the ECLIPTIC-PLANE, and only sets horizontally again at sunset. The spherical explanation of why the sun is so low in the sky during winter.

Winter Solstice.
[link to img390.imageshack.us]


- In summer (Y) is all day BELOW the ecliptic-plane and the sun rises north/east and sets north/west.

- In winter (Y) is all day ABOVE the ecliptic-plane and the sun rises south/east and sets south/west.


BUT the March & September equinox has a combination of both. In spring (Y) rises ABOVE the ecliptic-plane (winter) and sets BELOW it (summer). The sun should rise south/east and set north/west for March equinox. The reverse for autumn, BELOW sunrise/summer, ABOVE sunset/winter.


Translation: the middle diagram (Equinox) we all observe on earth isn't from a spherical earth-sun system, its from a flat earth-sun system. Science (NASA) never made any space travel, or they would have seen the earth flat. Science has lied. Space travel is an impossibility. Landing on the moon is equivalent to getting to Heaven. There are no Planets, people who have said they’ve seen them, lied, just like science lied about a round a earth.


FLAT EARTH-SUN SYSTEM

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[link to www.lhup.edu]
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The CREATOR blessed the earth, and all its inhabitants. Lets live up to those blessings. Praise be to GOD, it is proper to praise the LORD hf :hf
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Re: Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.
then why don't you just fall off and stop posting
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Re: Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.
HI PUNISHER!!

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HI PUNISHER!!

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Re: Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.
Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.


......yeah right next to the bible.....


you christians crack me up.... hopefully one day soon religion will be formally recognized as a mental illness so we can take you all off the streets.....
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Re: Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.
Are you "christian", Punisher? I thought Enoch-worship counted as none-of-the-above.


At any rate, nobody can ever accuse him of being a quitter

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Are you "christian", Punisher? I thought Enoch-worship counted as none-of-the-above.

At any rate, nobody can ever accuse him of being a quitter
 Quoting: MuadDib987

Enoch is the original author of all Christian, Jewish and Muslim fundamentals. All storyline and characters found in these religions were falsely taken and the storyline twisted to separate the children of men from the CREATOR.

Someday people will understand it, one step at a time.
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Also, they copied him on "Land of the Lost". . .there was that one sleestack named Enik.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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Hey Punisher, ain't you the professor emeritus Baron von Münchhausen at Vienna Technical University?
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Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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Then can we assume that we'll never hear from you again ? (Oh please, please, please!)
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WHAT A BS! bsflag
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Re: Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.

 Quoting: DrPostman


Awesome vid! Too bad in the case of the OP it'll fall on deaf ears.
Wouldn't it be great to heal the world, with only a song?
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Re: Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.
Are you "christian", Punisher? I thought Enoch-worship counted as none-of-the-above.

At any rate, nobody can ever accuse him of being a quitter

Enoch is the original author of all Christian, Jewish and Muslim fundamentals. All storyline and characters found in these religions were falsely taken and the storyline twisted to separate the children of men from the CREATOR.

Someday people will understand it, one step at a time.
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You are a strawman shill. You and Postman obviously work together, you post bs not found anywhere in the bible, he comes along with his marxist propaganda to answer.

You're both wrong!
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Re: Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.
Awesome vid! Too bad in the case of the OP it'll fall on deaf ears.


I gave up on SelfPunisher a long time ago. That video is for
anyone who might get confused by his crap.
 Quoting: DrPostman


All you post is confusion and the usual government spin, shill.
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Re: Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.
Sorry, I disagree with the sphere/orbits to an extent. Earths orbit is more of a Figure 8.


You need to consider the sun is either A- a companion, or B- has a companion. THAT is the real force at work.

Also consider, the orbits path through the universe, the galaxy and solar system.

Also consider seasonal orbit changes etc.


There's a lot more at play than you're taking into consideration.




The earth isn't a sphere, it doesn't revolve around the sun and neither do the planets. GOD exists, and the LORD didn't create the earth spherical, the LORD didn't create any planets, the CREATOR spread out the earth flat over the darkness - bottomless - gravity.


THE PROOF

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Sorry, I disagree with the sphere/orbits to an extent. Earths orbit is more of a Figure 8.

Also consider, the orbits path through the universe, the galaxy and solar system.

Also consider seasonal orbit changes etc.

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Don't you think all that orbiting would lose the less dense atmosphere of the earth, just as a man walks away from smoke? It does not stick to him.
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That's like 3rd grade information for most. Do you really think most are out there that bad? I realize many are yes. lol
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Re: Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.
we need to make a distinction between Science, the technical way of obtaining knowledge and truth that works, and mainstream Science, the crap that we are fed daily.

i don't necessarily agree with OP but I know how he could be right. reality is more paradoxical and uncertain than most people think.
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scientists use the scientific method, and thus SCIENCE, to obtain the bulk of knowledge that forms mainstream science, but this doesn't mean that they are nowhere near to use the method of Science at its fullest potential, or to reach any significant truth with it.
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Sorry, I disagree with the sphere/orbits to an extent. Earths orbit is more of a Figure 8.

Also consider, the orbits path through the universe, the galaxy and solar system.

Also consider seasonal orbit changes etc.



Don't you think all that orbiting would lose the less dense atmosphere of the earth, just as a man walks away from smoke? It does not stick to him.
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No, the opposite. I think they will gain mass as they orbit. The bodies collect dust and debris. This is how they're supposidly created. So if that's true, then it would be true to say they're ever growing and gaining weight.
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Awesome vid! Too bad in the case of the OP it'll fall on deaf ears.


I gave up on SelfPunisher a long time ago. That video is for
anyone who might get confused by his crap.
 Quoting: DrPostman



The only confusion about selfPunisher is the confusion selfPunisher feels.

In short, life is hard, it is harder when you are stupid, and in the case of selfPunisher it must be damned near impossible.
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Ah, punisher, so much pride in his ideas that he posts AC to try and trick people into debating him. Sadly, his posts carry their own unique fingerprints, easily recognizable to most regular GLPers.

Personally, even though I might not be able to verify these things on my own, I'll continue to lean toward an enormous, sphere based universe. The whole glass sky, flat earth thing has a certain appeal of simplicity, but that's it's weakness, IMO.

First, I don't wanna be the one standing in front of god proud of myself because god didn't fool me...might hurt the big guy's ego. Second, if it's wrong, then I've essentially called god too simple-minded to create anything better than a plate with a lid. I'm pretty sure that would win me an express ticket to hell (not that I don't have mine already).

Mostly though, any god worthy of the title, IMO, should be not only capable of creating an astounding universe, but should think in a complex enough way to desire it. I'm still not sure why some folks hold so tightly to the "we're alone" thing, either. I don't see any reason why god might not play around a bit, keeping each group a little isolated, with maybe a big meeting in due time (before or after the whole armageddon thing).

It would actually be a little disappointing to find out anything less.
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Sorry, I disagree with the sphere/orbits to an extent. Earths orbit is more of a Figure 8.

Also consider, the orbits path through the universe, the galaxy and solar system.

Also consider seasonal orbit changes etc.



Don't you think all that orbiting would lose the less dense atmosphere of the earth, just as a man walks away from smoke? It does not stick to him.




No, the opposite. I think they will gain mass as they orbit. The bodies collect dust and debris. This is how they're supposidly created. So if that's true, then it would be true to say they're ever growing and gaining weight.
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And the atmosphere?
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sigh


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What about the atmosphere?
Did I miss something? :)
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haha the problem with all these affirmations is that Earth IS FLAT for us earthlings. it feels and looks FLAT. only in space, from an outer perspective, it becomes spherical. and who decides which perspective is more valid than the other?

so the real problem here is with the generalizations, when things are more relative than most people realize.

in most cases, when i see people desperate trying to defend that earth is round etc etc it sounds just as dumb as any other theory.

earth is round, but also is flat. and it's possible to "prove" both theories with equations and stuff. unfortunately, the only thing that makes one theory more accepted than the other is popularity, if everyone lived in outer space then we could say that earth is round for sure, that is, only as we see it, because there is also the factor of our limited senses....

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A test.



Obtain/borrow a high powered telescope or binoculars. How far can you see land on earth?



^debunks flat earth quickly.
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yes, i forgot to mention this as well.
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Re: Its over folks. Its de-bunked. Science books can go in the trash now, or be placed on children shelves next to Pinocchio & Peter-Pan books.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


The Earth Created On The First Day Does Not Go Around The Sun Created On The Fourth Day.

The Evolution Delusion - Geocentricity
part 1

part 2

part 3


Malcolm Bowden presents Scientific proof of geocentricity.
[link to stationaryearth.org]


Earth is Motionless Copernicus Is Wrong
part 1

part 2

[link to www.wiser.tv]


Velocity says if the earth were rotating everything would weigh more at the poles than on the equator.

Also, fuel and air travel time would be less in one direction than the other when traveling east and west.


Geocentric Universe - Celestial Poles (the Earth is NOT moving)
Dr. Neville Jones

[link to video.google.com]
[link to sites.google.com]

Hundreds of experiments have failed to detect even a smidgen of the purported 67,000 mph translational and 1000 mph rotational velocity of the Earth. Not only can it not be disproved that "the Earth stands forever" (Ecc. 1:4) and has no velocity; it cannot be disproved that the Earth is the center of the universe.
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Works better on water. But meh.

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