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Who was known as Lucifer? Enlil? Thoth? Marduk? or Enki?

 
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Who was known as Lucifer? Enlil? Thoth? Marduk? or Enki?
Who was known as Lucifer?

Enlil? Thoth? Marduk? or Enki?

I heard people say each of the above, I am confused.

Anybody?
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I have ENki as Khnum or later Ra,Enlil as Yaldoboath,Jehovah or the Old testament God,Marduk probably was Lucifer like but according to Sitchen he passed on prior to Alexander the Great.
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I have ENki as Khnum or later Ra,Enlil as Yaldoboath,Jehovah or the Old testament God,Marduk probably was Lucifer like but according to Sitchen he passed on prior to Alexander the Great.
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Marduk was known as Ra according to Sitchen?

Now I am really confused.
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Sorry Amun-ram headed god.
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I don't think any of them represent a Lucifer identity. Them along with Anu are supposedly the creators of the world as we know it.
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Sorry Amun-ram headed god.
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Cool, Now I am less confused :-)
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You're all wrong, it's Seth aka Settan aka Satan. The murderer of Osiris.

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Who was known as Lucifer?

Enlil? Thoth? Marduk? or Enki?

I heard people say each of the above, I am confused.

Anybody?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589986



why cant lucifer just be lucifer, God's top angel and worship (music) leader?

not only that, he gets saved, so stop blaming him for your own problems with your own carnal mind

lucifer quit when Jesus rose from the dead

some (non-things) else took over being adversary - or satan - a bunch of thought forms man created with his imagination and faith

our enemy was/is LIES

leave lucifer out of it, in my opinion (scape goat to block people from being honest to themselves)
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Who was known as Lucifer?

Enlil? Thoth? Marduk? or Enki?

I heard people say each of the above, I am confused.

Anybody?



why cant lucifer just be lucifer, God's top angel and worship (music) leader?

not only that, he gets saved, so stop blaming him for your own problems with your own carnal mind

lucifer quit when Jesus rose from the dead

some (non-things) else took over being adversary - or satan - a bunch of thought forms man created with his imagination and faith

our enemy was/is LIES

leave lucifer out of it, in my opinion (scape goat to block people from being honest to themselves)
 Quoting: Me114


Who is blaming? I am of the mindset he's gotten a bad wrap, I also know that the Anunnaki where known throughout many cultures by many names, One of them was known as Lucifer

I would like to know which, that's all.

This video says it's Enki

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Give a quote from the bible mentioning lucifer please.

ETA: Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

never mind.
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Give a quote from the bible mentioning lucifer please.

ETA: Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

never mind.
 Quoting: A Concerned Canadian

Yep
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Re: Who was known as Lucifer? Enlil? Thoth? Marduk? or Enki?
Thoth has nothing to do with lucifer/satan.

:ssuecz:
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Thoth has nothing to do with lucifer/satan.

:ssuecz:
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That is true. And if we get down to it, Lucifer and Satan don't really have anything to do with each other.
A U.G. sampler: making love is war; cause-and-effect is the shibboleth of confused minds; yoga and health foods destroy the body; the body and not the soul is immortal; there is no communism in Russia, no freedom in America, and no spirituality in India; service to mankind is utter selfishness; Jesus was another misguided Jew; and the Buddha was a crackpot; mutual terror, not love, will save mankind; attending church and going to the bar for a drink are identical; there is nothing inside you but fear; communication is impossible between human beings; God, Love, Happiness, the unconscious, death, reincarnation and the soul are non-existent figments of our rich imagination; Freud is the fraud of the 20th century, while J. Krishnamurti is its greatest phoney.
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Thoth has nothing to do with lucifer/satan.

:ssuecz:


That is true. And if we get down to it, Lucifer and Satan don't really have anything to do with each other.
 Quoting: Little Death

Please explain more.
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Thoth has nothing to do with lucifer/satan.

:ssuecz:


That is true. And if we get down to it, Lucifer and Satan don't really have anything to do with each other.

Please explain more.
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The word "Lucifer" appears only once in the KJV, in the book of Isaiah. In that particular book the writer was making reference to the King of Babylon who exalted himself above all others, including God himself, as he, the King, considered himself the light bearer. Isaiah was making reference to his fallen status.

In the translation, or mistranslation of the original book St. Jerome took it upon himself to use the latin words, lucis ferrem, which mean Light bringer or Light bearer or the bringer of light. Most often it is making reference to the planet Venus which, during it's travels around the sun, becomes '... that bright and morning star' the "... bringer or light" heralding the beginning of sunrise. Lucifer has nothing to do with Satan/Devil/Serpent or any of the manifestations of the darkness.
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Thoth has nothing to do with lucifer/satan.

:ssuecz:


That is true. And if we get down to it, Lucifer and Satan don't really have anything to do with each other.

Please explain more.


The word "Lucifer" appears only once in the KJV, in the book of Isaiah. In that particular book the writer was making reference to the King of Babylon who exalted himself above all others, including God himself, as he, the King, considered himself the light bearer. Isaiah was making reference to his fallen status.

In the translation, or mistranslation of the original book St. Jerome took it upon himself to use the latin words, lucis ferrem, which mean Light bringer or Light bearer or the bringer of light. Most often it is making reference to the planet Venus which, during it's travels around the sun, becomes '... that bright and morning star' the "... bringer or light" heralding the beginning of sunrise. Lucifer has nothing to do with Satan/Devil/Serpent or any of the manifestations of the darkness.
 Quoting: Simon Templar


Simon, you beat me to it. Yes, that sums it up well.
A U.G. sampler: making love is war; cause-and-effect is the shibboleth of confused minds; yoga and health foods destroy the body; the body and not the soul is immortal; there is no communism in Russia, no freedom in America, and no spirituality in India; service to mankind is utter selfishness; Jesus was another misguided Jew; and the Buddha was a crackpot; mutual terror, not love, will save mankind; attending church and going to the bar for a drink are identical; there is nothing inside you but fear; communication is impossible between human beings; God, Love, Happiness, the unconscious, death, reincarnation and the soul are non-existent figments of our rich imagination; Freud is the fraud of the 20th century, while J. Krishnamurti is its greatest phoney.
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Thoth has nothing to do with lucifer/satan.

:ssuecz:


That is true. And if we get down to it, Lucifer and Satan don't really have anything to do with each other.

Please explain more.


The word "Lucifer" appears only once in the KJV, in the book of Isaiah. In that particular book the writer was making reference to the King of Babylon who exalted himself above all others, including God himself, as he, the King, considered himself the light bearer. Isaiah was making reference to his fallen status.

In the translation, or mistranslation of the original book St. Jerome took it upon himself to use the latin words, lucis ferrem, which mean Light bringer or Light bearer or the bringer of light. Most often it is making reference to the planet Venus which, during it's travels around the sun, becomes '... that bright and morning star' the "... bringer or light" heralding the beginning of sunrise. Lucifer has nothing to do with Satan/Devil/Serpent or any of the manifestations of the darkness.
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Thank you for sharing

Peace.
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Thoth is a good guy. Here is a link to the Emerald Tablets or the Tablets of Thoth.

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Who was known as Lucifer?

Enlil? Thoth? Marduk? or Enki?

I heard people say each of the above, I am confused.

Anybody?



why cant lucifer just be lucifer, God's top angel and worship (music) leader?

not only that, he gets saved, so stop blaming him for your own problems with your own carnal mind

lucifer quit when Jesus rose from the dead

some (non-things) else took over being adversary - or satan - a bunch of thought forms man created with his imagination and faith

our enemy was/is LIES

leave lucifer out of it, in my opinion (scape goat to block people from being honest to themselves)


Who is blaming? I am of the mindset he's gotten a bad wrap, I also know that the Anunnaki where known throughout many cultures by many names, One of them was known as Lucifer

I would like to know which, that's all.

This video says it's Enki


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589986

Ok, we have the Lightworkers who put the spirit over the sword.

There are the satanists who put the sword over the spirit.

There is the bhuddist who merges with both.

Then there is the self honest who realizes both within self.
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Who was known as Lucifer?

Enlil? Thoth? Marduk? or Enki?

I heard people say each of the above, I am confused.

Anybody?



why cant lucifer just be lucifer, God's top angel and worship (music) leader?

not only that, he gets saved, so stop blaming him for your own problems with your own carnal mind

lucifer quit when Jesus rose from the dead

some (non-things) else took over being adversary - or satan - a bunch of thought forms man created with his imagination and faith

our enemy was/is LIES

leave lucifer out of it, in my opinion (scape goat to block people from being honest to themselves)


Who is blaming? I am of the mindset he's gotten a bad wrap, I also know that the Anunnaki where known throughout many cultures by many names, One of them was known as Lucifer

I would like to know which, that's all.

This video says it's Enki



Ok, we have the Lightworkers who put the spirit over the sword.

There are the satanists who put the sword over the spirit.

There is the bhuddist who merges with both.

Then there is the self honest who realizes both within self.
 Quoting: sky441

That is my understanding as well, it is all about Balancing the Light & Dark, Or Male & Female energies, Ying & Yang so to speak.

And that what we percieve as EVIL only exists in this realm and both sides contain "EVIL", the key is to Balance them.
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That is my understanding as well, it is all about Balancing the Light & Dark, Or Male & Female energies, Ying & Yang, Spirit & the Sword so to speak.

And that what we percieve as EVIL only exists in this 3-D realm and both sides contain "EVIL", the key is to Balance them.
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Thoth is a good guy. Here is a link to the Emerald Tablets or the Tablets of Thoth.

[link to www.crystalinks.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 594796

from [link to www.crystalinks.com]
" The writer (who has a connection with the Great White Lodge which also works through the pyramid priesthood) was instructed to recover and return to the Great Pyramid the ancient tablets.

This, after adventures which need not be detailed here, was accomplished. Before returning them, he was given permission to translate and retain a copy of the wisdom engraved on the tablets.

This was done in 1925 and only now has permission been given for part to be published. It is expected that many will scoff. Yet the true student will read between the lines and gain wisdom.

If the light is in you, the light which is engraved in these tablets will respond.

Now, a word as to the material aspect of the tablets."
 Quoting: The Emerald Tablets of Thoth The Atlantean


So, you help invent the story by imagining what the missing information is?
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No one!

Who gives a fuck anyway.

It's all in your imagination. That's how modern religio-fantasy is set up.

Get real, please.
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Thoth has nothing to do with lucifer/satan.

:ssuecz:


That is true. And if we get down to it, Lucifer and Satan don't really have anything to do with each other.

Please explain more.


The word "Lucifer" appears only once in the KJV, in the book of Isaiah. In that particular book the writer was making reference to the King of Babylon who exalted himself above all others, including God himself, as he, the King, considered himself the light bearer. Isaiah was making reference to his fallen status.

In the translation, or mistranslation of the original book St. Jerome took it upon himself to use the latin words, lucis ferrem, which mean Light bringer or Light bearer or the bringer of light. Most often it is making reference to the planet Venus which, during it's travels around the sun, becomes '... that bright and morning star' the "... bringer or light" heralding the beginning of sunrise. Lucifer has nothing to do with Satan/Devil/Serpent or any of the manifestations of the darkness.
 Quoting: Simon Templar


What you typed sounds like Marduk he is associated with the Great Star and of course he rearranged the tablets of density. The king of Babylon is spot on for him and as other areas had other rulers he was the one that most upset the apple cart after En and his foremost son nuked some of the world that is of course MHO.
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Who was known as Lucifer?

Enlil? Thoth? Marduk? or Enki?

I heard people say each of the above, I am confused.

Anybody?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589986

Enlil is/ was the ruler of this earth...due to the "law of the seed".

Thoth....built the pyramids in 10,500 B.C. (approximately), he also built the Sphinx, during the age of Leo the Lion, near the time of the pyramids.

The pyramid had the face of Thoth on it originally.

Thoth, a son of Enki.

Thoth, a ruler of Egypt, was deposed by Ra, Thoth's brother.

Thoth a scientist, mathematician, scribe and genius.

Thoth was among the best of the Anunnaki...if not the very best.

When Thoth was deposed from Egypt by his older brother Marduk/RA, he left for the high mountains of South America to continue the gold smelting operations.

He took human workers with him.

Ra replaced the face of the Sphinx that had Thoth`s face on it and placed Osiris face on it. Osiris is Ra`s son.

Osiris is the present face that you see NOW on the Sphinx.....an Anunnaki!

Ra, or Marduk/Ra is the firstborn male of Enki.

Ra believes as his father, Enki, believes that, they, the first born males are the rightful heirs to the throne.

Due to law of the seed, Enlil was given the authority, not Enki, who was the firstborn.

To begin answering your question, rather then write forever.

Thoth is not Lucifer.

Enki is not Lucifer, he with his wife, created the human hybrid.

Further, Enki, always had compassion for humanity...he was always in OUR CORNER.

Enlil, which has been handed the power, through law of the seed....which is still in contention WITH FIRSTBORN!

Enlil is not Lucifer.

Which leads us to Marduk/Ra.

Ra, believes that, the "law of the seed" should be secondary to "law of the firstborn".

Ra, believes, that he is the rightful ruler ON EARTH and that his father, ENKI, is the rightful ruler or heir to kingship on Nibiru.

Therefore, in time, Ra believes he, would be ruler on Nibiru.

Because the Anunnaki elders agreed that the "law of the seed" prevails and has "RIGHT OF WAY", over "first born"
.....Ra believes he has been deprived and cheated out of kingship.

So he has conspired to rule the earth and ultimately rule Nibiru.

He therefore wants to usurp the powers that be and retain the power for himself. He has a legitimate argument.

Ra figuratively speaking is wrestling with Enlil for power.

So in your choices Marduk/ Ra is Lucifer.

Though that's not my choice.

I invite you to the book, Windswept Heights, by Father Malachi Martin, page 7.

"THE ENTHRONEMENT OF THE FALLEN ARCHANGEL ""LUCIFER"" WAS EFFECTED WITHIN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CITADEL ON JUNE 29, 1963".

......that said, your Lucifer and mine, are like apples and oranges....their not the same.

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So it's agreed --Marduk

let's move on folks.
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most fail to realize the detour taken.

these gods feed off us batteries (our emotions).

sitchin is a shape shifter himself. arizona said so and i see his slits now.

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