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**Breaking*News**** Obama Knew He Wasn't Eligible for POTUS

 
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Saturday, January 17, 2009

In February of last yearObama and Clair McCaskill tried to change the constitution to legitimize Obama for presidency, later used Gestapo technic

Friday, January 16, 2009Zapem:

'Obama Knew He Wasn't Eligible for POTUS'

In this article, originally posted in the blog of the same name, "Zapem" breaks a report of the history of sidestepping, skirting, and attempted Constitutional tinkering on behalf of unnatural born Citizen, John McCain -- thereby, an attempt to pave the way for Barack Obama.
by Zapem
If one were to look at the activity on Capital Hill during the campaign, there would be no question in their minds that both McCain and Obama were sweating the “natural born citizen” issue. How do we arrive at that conclusion? We take McCain’s ingrained, glib advice and “Look at the record, my friends“. Doing just that, we find that back on February 28, 2008, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a bill to the Senate for consideration. That bill was known as S. 2678: Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act. The bill was co-sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), and Sen. Thomas Coburn (R-OK). Bill S. 2678 attempted to change article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States with reference to the requirements of being a “natural born citizen” and hence; the entitlement to run for President of the United States. This bill met the same fate that similar attempts to change the Constitution have in the past. Attempts such as The Natural Born Citizen Act were known to have failed and the text scrubbed from the internet, with only a shadow-cached copy left, that only the most curious public can find. Sen. McCaskill, her co-sponsors, fellow colleagues and legal counsel, contend that the Constitution is ambiguous in article II, section 1 and requires clarification. But does it? According to the framers and such drafters as John Bingham, we find the definition to be quite clear:
I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen… . . - John Bingham in the United States House on March 9, 1866
From the days of James Madison to the present, the courts have held that the amendment process be justiciable in accordance with its constitutionality and not self-serving or political. But is that what happened here? Again, we must go to the record. Within only five short weeks after Senate Bill 2678 faded from the floor, we find Sen. Claire McCaskill back again, making another attempt with Senate Resolution 511. On April 10, 2008, she introduced a secondary proposal in the form of a non-binding resolution, recognizing John McCain as a “natural born citizen” in defiance of the Constitution. Curiously, it contained the same identical co-sponsors, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.ABCNews.com reported:
“With questions - however serious - about whether Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is eligible to run for president since he was born outside U.S. borders on an American Naval base, Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo. today introduced a non-binding resolution expressing the sense of the U.S. Senate that McCain qualifies as a “natural born Citizen,” as specified in the Constitution and eligible for the highest office in the land. Co-sponsors include Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Barack Obama, D-Illinois; Leahy said he anticipates it will pass unanimously.”
One has to wonder — what dire urgency could there possibly have been in persisting with trying to legislate a candidate into being a “natural born citizen”? Certainly providing a birth certificate and reading the Constitution would be more than sufficient. Why did these candidates and their wishful nominees go to such lengths in the Senate when obviously, they had more pressing matters to attend to? And why were there two Senators co-sponsoring such an issue, twice, who were in direct competition with John McCain in the 2008 election? One answer is that looking at John McCain’s long-form birth certificate reveals he was not a natural born citizen and Barack Obama hasn’t submitted his long-form at all. John McCain was born in an “unincorporated territory”, held by the courts to be not part of the United States for constitutional purposes. Barack Obama has submitted only a Certification of Live Birth, but Hawaii law will certify a live birth using that document for births that occurred even outside of the country. Furthermore, Barack Obama’s father was Kenyan and never an American citizen. Since the status of citizenship occurs at birth, this makes Barack Obama a citizen if born in Hawaii, but not a natural born citizen. One must have two citizen parents, at the time of birth, and be born on U.S. soil, to be deemed a natural born citizen and be declared eligible for the presidency. The Senate, for all their trouble, cannot legislate a person’s born status. It happens at birth, according to the law. While Senate Bill 2678 fell to the wayside, Senate Resolution 511 was passed on April 30, 2008 as a non-binding resolution. However, S.R. 511 is not a law, but rather, a unanimous opinion. Technically, it means absolutely nothing what they’ve written as it’s not a law, nor did the matter reach the House for review. It’s a stepping-stone in the larger scheme of things that haven’t happened yet; the push to change our Constitution. World Net Daily reported on November 13, 2008:
More than a half-dozen legal challenges have been filed in federal and state courts demanding President-elect Barack Obama’s decertification from ballots or seeking to halt elector meetings, claiming he has failed to prove his U.S. citizenship status. An Obama campaign spokeswoman told WND the complaints are unfounded. “All I can tell you is that it is just pure garbage,” she said. “There have been several lawsuits, but they have been dismissed.”
Perhaps someone should have informed Obama’s spokeswoman that many of these cases have not been dismissed at all, rather they are mounting, and her statements are in fact, pure “garbage”. Then perhaps someone may prompt an answer from the Obama spokespeople as to why they were entertaining the thought of fiddling with the United States Constitution back in February and April of THIS YEAR? Perhaps because it was in the best interest of Sen. Obama. Then what of Sen. Claire McCaskill? What possible interest could she have had in these proceedings and leading the charge with her proposals? Was it a bonafide Constitutional issue of judicial importance, or rather a political one?Digging further into the record we find that according to Wikki and subsequent footnotes therein:
“In January 2008, Claire McCaskill decided to endorse Senator Barack Obama in his campaign for the Democratic nomination for the presidential elections of 2008, making her one of the first senators to do so. She has been one of the most visible faces for his campaign.[14] McCaskill’s support was crucial to Obama’s narrow victory in the Missouri primary in February, 2008. She had been frequently mentioned as a possible vice presidential choice of Senator Obama in the 2008 run for the White House…”
So what we see is a definite political motive being dragged into the Senate for the purposes of legitimizing the 2008 candidates. But if these candidates were legitimate already, there would obviously be no reason for these proceedings. So political was the motive of McCaskill, even Missouri’s Governor, Matt Blunt revealed that Sen. McCaskill was involved in the “abusive use of Missouri Law Enforcement“. This was dubbed as the “Truth Squad” during the election campaign by the media. The Truth Squad was comprised of Missouri officials and attorneys who set up shop on the streets of Missouri and threatened the public with criminal penalties and lawsuits if they engaged in critical speech against Sen. Obama. The Obama campaign also issued cease and desist letters to media station managers who carried advertisers who were unfriendly towards Barack Obama, namely, the NRA. Citizen outrage prompted this response from Governor Blunt:
“Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign. What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.”
Considering these facts and the judicial record, there is every reason to believe that Sen. McCaskill had no interest in resolving Sen. McCain’s eligibility, but Sen. Obama’s long-term. She manipulated the Senate and then threatened the media and the public thereafter, politically motivated at the prospect of becoming Obama’s Vice-Presidential pick. But it didn’t stop there. Chairman Patrick J. Leahy entered into the Senate record a legal analysis of two high-powered attorneys hired by Sen. McCain - Theodore Olson and Laurence Tribe - both of whom are extremely politically active and biased, and attached that opinion to S.R. 511. So controversial was that legal opinion, that it prompted a rebuttal by Professor Gabriel J. Chin of The University of Arizona, James E. Rogers College of Law, in a discussion paper #08-14 entitled, Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President. Professor Chin points out clearly where Tribe-Olson sought to draw out implied theories in the law, which in reality, are simply not there and in fact have been decided by the courts already, in opposition to the suggestions offered by Tribe-Olson. Simply put, the attorneys hired by Sen. McCain attempt to fit the law into their agenda with contrived implications. Professor Chin brings the law back into focus, requiring no implied theories. Legalities aside, in anticipation of the feared “Fairness Doctrine”, the whole of the main stream media has since acquiesced to the intimidation tactics of the Obama campaign and paraded the non-binding resolution known as S.R. 511 to the public with unfactual foolishness. S.R. 511 is neither a constitutional amendment nor legally binding in any way. Yet the media caved to political pressure and reported it to the public as Chairman Leahy dictated, giving the illusion to the pubic that said resolution was binding to the 2008 election. Nothing could be farther from the truth. The public responded, initially by way of lawsuits contesting the eligiblity of not only John McCain, but Barack Obama and Roger Calero as well, citing them all, with equal disqualifying merit, as being constitutionally ineligible to run for President of the United States. Later, netizens of the internet caught wind of the court actions and responded with their own explosion of blogs, forums, websites, chatrooms, emails, etc. In an attempt to quell the discord, the main stream media offered personalities such as Thomas Goldstein which only served to infuriate the public further. The public saw such maneuvers as deceitful and an attempt to embarrass the now educated public. However, the greater proof is in the activity which originated in the Senate in early 2008 which was hidden from the public, that sought to change what our representatives knew to be unconstitutional from the start. The public really needs to look no further than this activity, for it speaks to the heart of the deals that went on beyond the Senate doors. Rather than trust the preservation model our founding forefathers wrote into our Constitution, these respresentatives, beholden of the public trust, saw fit to manipulate the clauses contained therein, for the sole benefit of their own political self-interests. Perhaps our representatives, the United States Supreme Court and the main stream media would be interested in reflecting on these records and then start answering truthfully the questions which have so far been ignored. The public has been promised transparency, but to date has only been dealt scoffing, deceitful rhetoric, if they choose to address it at all. While the public has been patient and eduring, the questions remain and refuse to be dismissed. We expect them to be answered, preferrably prior to January 20, 2009. We the people, deserve an answer! ____________________________________________________
Listing of 9 articles from the 110th Congress as entered.



1 . SENATE RESOLUTION 511–RECOGNIZING THAT JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN III, IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN — Senate - April 10, 2008

2 . REPORTS OF COMMITTEES — Senate - April 24, 2008

3 . SUBMISSION OF CONCURRENT AND SENATE RESOLUTIONS — Senate - April 10, 2008

4 . JOHN S. McCAIN, III CITIZENSHIP — Senate - April 30, 2008

5 . MEETINGS SCHEDULED — Extensions of Remarks - April 21, 2008

6 . Daily Digest - Friday, April 18, 2008

7 . Daily Digest - Thursday, April 24, 2008

8 . Daily Digest - Wednesday, April 30, 2008

9 . Daily Digest - Wednesday, April 23, 2008
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110th CONGRESS
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S. RES. 511
RESOLUTION
Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
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I have just given up - TPTB are in complete control - they seem to be able to do whatever the fuck they like - thye own the media 100%.
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Saturday, January 17, 2009

what should be done?


As a follow up to the previous article about Clair McCuskill, Obama "truth" squad and people like Secretary of State of Ohio Jennifer Brunner and all the others that have been collaborating with this Gestapo-SS establishment, they all should and would be tried in Nurenberg style trials for harassing, intimidating, blackmailing and terrorizing fellow citizens, for defrauding the whole country. Patriots of this country didn't fight and defeat Nazi Germany to end up with Obamas, McCuskill, Soros, Brunner and the rest of this squad. I hope that the men in this country, particularly in our military will finally revolt against this travesty of Justice. If our government and our elected officials and our judiciary have failed us, then it is time for the new government, new elected officials and a new judiciary.

Posted by Orly Taitz, DDS Esq. at 4:18 AM


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Well McCain is US born IE: native...If you are born overseas, Your parents are citizens and one being in the military., and heres the key you must be born on a US instalation IE: military hospital you are considered to be born in the US. Just like Embassies are considered to the United states teritory no matter where the are. You are on US soil. Went through all that crap back in the 70's when I joined the inteligence community. (of which I'm no longer a part of). Not sure about Obama but at this point it's not going to make any difference. TPTB have made thier choice.
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THEY WANTED TO REMOVE THE NATURAL BORN CLAUSE IN THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!
DONT YOU UNDERSTAND !!!!!!!!!!!
CANT YOU READ!!!!
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I have been saying that this will be the next move, so the Messiah can run for re-election in 4 years. There will be a huge movement to get this changed, because the restriction will be labeled as DISCRIMINATION.
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5a

Listen to this guy. He is one crazy dude! So he must be right!

He's crazier than you. So he's more correct than you.

He says Obama was a robot construct cloned out of GW Bush's loins, thrown back in time, and given a sun tan.

He's crazier than you.

So he is true.

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THEY WANTED TO REMOVE THE NATURAL BORN CLAUSE IN THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!
DONT YOU UNDERSTAND !!!!!!!!!!!
CANT YOU READ!!!!
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January 16, 2009
Alan Keyes Speaks Out on the Obama Birth-Gate Crisis

Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes continues his legal battle to discover whether President-elect Barack Obama is eligible to serve as America's 44th president. On January 15, 2009, lawyers for Alan Keyes subpoenaed Obama's Occidental College records for use in the case of Keyes v. Bowen. For a PDF download of Dr. Keyes petition, click here. For a PDF of the Occidental College subpoena, click here.

Meanwhile, in this new interview, Alan Keyes, who ran for president in 2008, questions why Barack Obama has spent upwards of $1 million to conceal the original copy of his birth certificate and explains what happens to the rule of law if and when we, as a nation, fail to uphold the Constitution.


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QUIT your stupidity, and QUIT using that fucking fruitcake Orly as a source. She's STUPIDER than Berg!!



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QUIT your stupidity, and QUIT using that fucking fruitcake Orly as a source. She's STUPIDER than Berg!!



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QUIT your stupidity, and QUIT using that fucking fruitcake Orly as a source. She's STUPIDER than Berg!!



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Man, what's with these folks that are a afraid to touch the enter key? Nothing like trying to plow through a solid block of text.

Nah, nevermind, if it's important or relevant, somebody else will post it in a readable format.
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Part 1 - Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. on Presidential Candidate Barack Obama's Natural Born Citizen status




Part 2 - Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. on Presidential Candidate Barack Obama's Natural Born Citizen status




Part 3 - Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. on Presidential Candidate Barack Obama's Natural Born Citizen status




Part 4 - Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. Speaking at National Press Club

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QUIT your stupidity, and QUIT using that fucking fruitcake Orly as a source. She's STUPIDER than Berg!!



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That site PROVES my point completely.

STILL the same bullshit about the 'forged' BC from Hawaii, which is completely bullshit (her source is WND for Christ's sake!!).

NEW bullshit trying to make 'natural born' somehow DIFFERENT from 'native born' (not even Berg is THAT stupid!).

More bullshit about his Mother renouncing her Citizenship simply by moving to Indonesia.

Even MORE bullshit aabout other nonsensical things.



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5a

Says Obama's BC is obviously forged by Obama himself. Obama forged a BC which replicates everything about himself, except, it is from an alternative universe. Obama is reporting alt-Obama info. Obama forgets he is in an alt-universe.

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give it up idiots.
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give it up idiots.
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NEVER:

Gov. Schwarzenegger Pushing Citizenship Issue in DC

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I couldnt follow what you posted because you posted it all in one paragraph.Why is it that the people who are so ready to condemn the new President before he takes office are so unable to communicate by typing?I mean come on it was a class we all took in high school.Or maybe you just type this way to annoy people.I really dont care if Obama is black, a muslim, gay, jewish whatever the f*** he might be; he is different from Commander Decidermeister Bunnypants, and for now that is good enough for me.Why dont you and all the haters just put a sock in until after Tuesday?We know all about what you have posted but you are not changing anyone's opinion with any of this.Why dont you just take time off from shilling and go take a nice typing course instead?
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Dec 17. -Gov. Schwarzenegger Pushing Citizenship Issue in DC
The following is a posting from the RovingPatrol blog with a very prescient link from ViralGrapeVine.com.

Essentially, it is alleged that the Governor wants the President-Elect to be sworn in so as to create a political form of precedent that would allow the Governor to run for President (the lawyers showed up on December 9, 2008 and the Governor’s December 15, 2008 speech in California could be construed as referencing this push):

Dec. 9 Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger reportedly has lawyers on Capital Hill pushing the Obama citizenship case forward towards a precedent setting change in the Constitution.

Unlike right wing Republicans, Schwarzenegger wants Obama to ultimately be victorious in front of the Supreme Court if they should choose to hear a case questioning whether or not Barack Obama can be sworn in even though he may have been technically born in Kenya before being certified as a citizen in Hawaii.

The Gubbernator sees common cause (temporarily) with those that would keep Obama from taking office, hoping that the question of fact in Obama’s birth will be admitted and that he will be allowed to be sworn in anyway.

That would create the legal precedent allowing a person not Natural Born in America to run for President. Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to be that next President and with Palin and Huckabee currently polling in the lead for the Republican nomination, Arnold could knock them out like an extra pointing a gun at him in a cheap action thriller.
So the question is, what exactly are Arnold’s lawyers doing in Washington????

Well, that’s where things get interesting. Apparently, they are seeking out a key witness in the Obama case. There are two issues at play. One is a question of fact, was Obama born in Kenya. The other is a question of Constitutional crisis. Can a person born in Kenya and elected by the electoral college serve as President or will he have to relinquish the job to Joseph Biden.



From Jan 15 speech. Everyone knows and doesn’t care our constitution is being changed illegally.

“I know that we know that any American child now also, no matter what corner of the world his father or mother comes from, can even become president of the United States. What a wonderful national story for us. This nation rightfully feels the hope of change.”
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For the record, Taitz got her JD from William Howard Taft University, a for-profit private distance learning university in CA and I believed passed the CA bar in 2002.

I've looked at a dozen or so law school rankings lists and have yet to find any mention of this school.

Link to William Howard Taft University's website...


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I wonder if Taitz is an equally bad dentist...

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