will the US collaspe like Russia did in 1991

End of spring, beginning of summer.
It will be worse.
Russians economy always was in the brown mass and people were partly self sufficent because of it.

Moscow was a shithole, some idiot communists sawed off every fruit tree around the town for "better control" off people and to make their kolchoses exclusively sell their apples.
Should i mention that that kolchose collapsed ?

You could make a load of money just traveling there by plane and sell the apples in your luggage (or any other fruit).

At least trains, planes and public transport were going.
Do not expect this in any western society.

Gas was rationed (if there was any) and citywide central heating collapsed leaving people shivering.
Expect that in winter 2009/2010.

City = you are f*****

And yes .. russia had one colour when it comes to ethnicity.
Expect civil war.

Didn´t Obama say that Lincoln is his idol ?
Think about it.

Yes. 2011.

No it will not be as orderly.

BRACE FOR IMPACT!!!!!!!!!

Yes.

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no, because we are not communists

in your dreams
are they paying you post this tripe?

Fruit trees in Moscow?

Which Russia do you mean? Certainly not anyone I've every been to, one ethnicity?

Try 2009.

Wait and see.
The question was:

Will the US collapse like Russia ?

And the answer is:
NO
It will be worse.

yep I know obama is pretending and there will probably be a staged fake assassination, if it were not fake then why does obama symbolically and outwardly play a roll of someone he is assimilating characteristics from on a symbolic level? doesn't that prove he already knows whats going to happen before it happens? that would in reality be impossible , in any case, remember he is playing the prophetic characteristics of Lincoln now pfft and even Biden is no diffent he to play the roll of prophet

threat to dollar hedgemony is not immediate. We over came the threat from Sadaam using euros..... now the fed is buying up debt..... that is a reason for concern, as well as mid east dumping t bills or converting them to gold....

the manipulations have been amazing and the central banksters are running thin on time, but I believe they can continue on with the sherade, but only until something major happens and I believe that next major thing will be the SPET 2010 Tsunami Quake coming to ruin the west coast.... that will be the time of massive dumping of the dollar and commodities go thru the roof.

then, china will no longer need the US for their cheap porducts and will invade with russia. The start of the collapse will be SEPT 2010, unless something else happens and the banksters can no longer manipulate the dollar, but they have trillions more to thruow at it....

remember that 2 trillion un accounted for from the army budget and Rumsfeld testimony before congress a few yrs back?

They have even more now to throw at the dollar, but once the west coast is hit and beyond repair, no one will want the dollar. The country will be in shambles and china and russia will then see our weakness and have a plan. They already have a plan ofr this. There are men who they hire to play all these war game scenarios out well in advance of what could possibly come and they have one in the play book fo rwhen america becomes greatly weakened by the quake to come..... you don't think they think this far ahead? Guess again! These are military men and they think about these strategies day and night. They eat sleep and shit thoughts of war and the day they get to invade america....they live for it....they dream about it.....they light up when talking about it......they can;t wait till that day comes!

I don't think OP meant "like" the way some of you are interpreting. Obviously it is going to take on a lot of different characteristics. "Like" was being used in the most general way possible I think. But sharing the surprise of the world at the fall of a giant.

Breaking loose in June

A lot will depend on the people. Last year I saw a vision of the USA being split into two or possibly three parts.

The Obama titanic is definitely going to take the ship into destroying the dinosaur.

However, that might be good for the evolution of the people. Specially if each state fights for the constitution and its own cause for human rights for all.


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Thread: The Five Stages of Collapse by Dmitry Orlov

No if societal collapse occurs it will be much worse - there will be inter-ethnic civil war on a huge scale - when the country is in utter ruins, population down to a fraction - then Russia and China will move in and take over - as they have been planning for decades!

Chevez? Is that you?

Only envious communist crap are saying the US will collapse. The economy might collapse but the American people are resilient and industrious and we will flourish. Maybe the dope heads will flounder without their munchies and TV but the drug free will survive.

I think a lot of people like to imagine that race war will be a lot more prevelant in the hard time.

Russia and China are no more likely to "move in and take over" than we actually moved into Russia after the Soviet collapse.

The UN, EU, Russia and China have already divvied up the areas of responsibility for the peacekeeping force:

1. California UN/China/Mexico
2. Texas UN/China/Mexico
3. New York UN/NATO/EU/Germany
4. Florida UN/NATO/EU/Spain
5. Illinois UN/Russia
6. Pennsylvania UN/NATO/EU/Germany
7. Ohio UN/Russia
8. Michigan UN/Russia
9. Georgia UN/NATO/EU/Spain
10. North Carolina UN/NATO/EU/UK
11. New Jersey UN/NATO/EU/Germany
12. Virginia UN/NATO/EU/UK
13. Washington UN/China
14. Arizona UN/China/Mexico
15. Massachusetts UN/NATO/EU/Italy
16. Indiana UN/Russia
17. Tennessee UN/Russia
18. Missouri UN/China
19. Maryland UN/EU/NATO/UK
20. Wisconsin UN/Russia
21. Minnesota UN/China
22. Colorado UN/China
23. Alabama UN/Russia
24. South Carolina UN/NATO/EU/Poland
25. Louisiana UN/NATO/EU/France
26. Kentucky UN/Russia
27. Puerto Rico UN/NATO/EU/Spain
28. Oregon UN/China
29. Oklahoma UN/China
30. Connecticut UN/NATO/EU/Italy
31. Iowa UN/Russia
32. Mississippi UN/Russia
33. Arkansas UN/China
34. Kansas UN/China
35. Utah UN/China
36. Nevada UN/China/Mexico
37. New Mexico UN/China/Mexico
38. West Virginia UN/NATO/EU/UK
39. Nebraska UN/China
40. Idaho UN/China
41. Maine UN/NATO/Canada
42. New Hampshire UN/NATO/Canada
43. Hawaii UN/Japan
44. Rhode Island UN/NATO/EU/Portugal
45. Montana UN/China
46. Delaware UN/NATO/EU/Netherlands
47. South Dakota UN/China
48. Alaska UN/Russia
49. North Dakota UN/China
50. Vermont UN/NATO/Canada
51. District of Columbia UN/NATO/EU/UK
52. Wyoming UN/China
53. Guam UN/Japan
54. US Virgin Islands UN/NATO/EU/Denmark
55. Northern Mariana IslandsUN/Japan
56. American Samoa UN/Australia

missouri? argh

This is the most retarded staement in this thread. WTF does drugs have anything to do with it anyways?

Besides when TSHTF, I'll bet my bong your doughy ass will be the first to line up for the camps.

if it does go down like USSR in '91 just remember to trade your gov issue food stamps for some of the gas, oil, mining and steel production stock also floating about and you will be a billionaire in ten years time. see you in St. Tropez fellas!

Europe will collapse before the USA. You are stupid if you think otherwise. Their banks are much more leveraged than the US banks.

The whole point of all this 'identity politics' has been to hollow out the american cultural glue - so that when this point arrives - society will fragment into warring factions.

Russia will take the whole of Europe, the ME and N America - China will get the rest - you have no idea!

I think Weatherbill's ideas are absurd, because you can't count on a great earthquake hitting somewhere on the west coast by 2010. There might not be a great earthquake until 2025 or even later, scientists are not sure when a big one will hit.

The world will just lay down & let Russia & China take over? LOL

Russia didn't collapse in 1991. It was state called USSR which collapsed into separate states, including Russia. Russia started to collapse too, woth Tatarstan and Chechnya not signing Federation Traety in 1992, but they were bribed or crushed by force.

Caucasus countries and the USSR did not leave themselves and their disconnect from Moscow, it is necessary to know the history, rather than advocate at the leaflets and the media. Chechnya tune the CIA and the 9 11. There were all Afganistantsy, none against the Chechens, all fought on our side.