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THE MOST PERFECT CRIME EVER COMMITTED:The Sinking Of The Titanic 1912, Created To Be A Tomb For The Wealthy Opposing The Federal Reserve Act 1913

 
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Amazing how they seem to plan on an ice berg showing up. Perfect timing.
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On a ship with 3 wheels for rudder control and a suspicious captain, why not?

With Morgan's involvement, the ship could have been DESIGNED to deceive.


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GREAT THREAD!!
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ty tommy and bowman and the very clever AC. It was enlightening and entertaining to read. Really are some very intelligent people here.
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yep, the joos did this one too..

that wasnt a iceberg, it was a joo nose !
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ok satan trying to blame the church lol u funny but it work on the monkey bunch...war on saints pre-show no more the mason or illuminati but christian and catholic church at the end will just be more blasphems writing on you.
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Very interesting. But why this now? Are you somehow suggesting an "interesting" parallel to the recent US Airways plane that took un unscheduled dip into the frosty Hudson? Were there truly one or more bigshots aboard that "ship" carrying certain secrets on their persons or in their luggage possibly? Or maybe it was just their contrary attitudes over certain controversial policies that mattered most. Perhaps certain business issues might not always go so well with Manhattans or vodka on the Hudson's frozen rocks. Hmm.
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Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier to arrange "accidents" for the men they wanted killed? Geesh there were only a few of them, seems to me it would have been a whole lot easier to mess with some car brakes, push one into a train and walk away, you know, forensics back then isn't what it is today...so much easier than building a multi-million dollar ship and killing HOW many innocent people? There are too many Col. Flaggs on this board.


Yep, so much dramatics, expense, planning, intrigue, and plotting just to kill a few men.

Pushing them down a flight of stairs, poisoning, sudden heart attack or illness, even shooting them would have been way too easy.
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Titanic sank in 1912 April 14th
On April 15th every year since, the US tax payer, payes homage to 'whom ever'
to fund the divide and conquer routine around the world

2009 - 1912 = 97 YEARS !
thats how long this Truth in plain sight has been around
and how much money has been made off the film rights alone !

critical thinking is not what it used to be,
example: think why ? who gains ? who looses ?

The bit I like is no matter how independant or special or different
any US citizen feels, they are still
contributing (funding) via taxes to the continued wars
in place around the world today !!

Don't that just take the biscuit ?
'Whom ever' has got us to fight amongst ourselves (even kill one an other)
get us to believe we are not slaves (yet we are)
get us to self medicate to stay plyable and easy to control
get us to pay for all of the negative influence being generated around the world
ROFL !
now that is some advance planning

If I didn't know any better I would say the Sith are here,
was spielberg onto something ?
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GREAT THREAD!!
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Communist Manifesto

Abolition of private property
Heavy progressive income tax
Abolition of all rights of inheritance
Confiscation of property of all emigrants and rebels
Central Bank
Government control of Communications & Transportation
Government ownership of factories and agriculture
Government control of labor
Corporate farms, regional planning
Government control of education
CHARACTERISTICS OF FASCISM

Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
Supremacy of the Military
Rampant Sexism
Controlled Mass Media
Obsession with National Security
Religion and Government are Intertwined
Corporate Power is Protected
Labor Power is Suppressed
Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fraudulent Elections
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"New evidence" is suggesting that the coal on board was on fire. Supposedly this is why the Titanic was cruising at such a high rate of speed. They had to consume the coal before it all burned up and left the ship stranded in the middle of the Atlantic.

There at the same time was a coal shortage, and this was the reason some ships were canceled so that the passengers as well as 'inexperienced' crew were transferred to the Titanic.

Some theorize the coal fire had been caused by a careless workman's tossed cigarette.
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A slow smoldering coal bunker fire caused the buildup of gases that caused the Maine to explode and caused the hawks to instigate the Spanish American war killing many innocent people. We the sheep have value onl;y in large flock numbers none whatsoever individually. Even Wm McKinley tried to call for calm but the Bullmoose and other testosterone imbalanced individuals pushed it thru and rode into hisotry on their non existant cavalry horses running on foot up San Juan Hill. The Roughwalkers...or was that Longwalkers....no never mind...
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But wait...I saw the movie and it didn't say anything like this.

James Cameron wouldn't lie would he?

If you can't trust Hollywood, who can you trust?
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GLP peeps knew it was an inside job for a long time now. Here's the proof:

Thread: Sinking of Titanic: AN INSIDE JOB
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Yes, the Titanic was sunk to eliminate opposition to the FRS.

But the Jesuits had nothing to do with it. They were not part of the conspiracy, having neither the means, nor any connection to the conspirators.

Who actually gained from the FRS? (hint: not a small group of Catholic monks).
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woah i studied at jesuit school... wtf
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THE SINKING OF THE TITANIC

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When we think of events that have transpired in history over the last one hundred to two hundred years, there are certain events that stand out as ones of great horror, great surprise and great sadness. Of the many that come to mind the most devastating have been the destruction of the the World Trade Center in New York City and the sinking of the Titanic.

The greatest tragedies in the last two hundred years can be traced to the Jesuits. We will now show that the Jesuits planned and carried out the sinking of the Titanic, and we will show why they did it.

Since the early 1830’s, America did not have a central bank. The Jesuits desperately wanted another central bank in America so that they would have a bottomless reservoir from which to draw money for their many wars and other hideous schemes around the world.

In 1910, seven men met on Jekyll Island just off the coast of Georgia to establish a central bank, which they called the Federal Reserve Bank. These men were Nelson Aldrich and Frank Vanderlip, both representing the Rockefeller financial empire; Henry Davison, Charles Norton, and Benjamin Strong, representing J.P. Morgan; and Paul Warburg, representing the Rothschild banking dynasty of Europe. We have already seen that the Rothschilds were the banking agents for the papacy’s Jesuits, holding “the key to the wealth of the Roman Catholic Church.”

The Morgans were friendly competitors with the Rothschilds and became socially close to them. Morgan’s London-based firm was saved from financial ruin in 1857 by the Bank of England over which the Rothschilds held great influence. Thereafter, Morgan appears to have served as a Rothschild financial agent and went to great length to appear totally American....

His [Rockefeller’s] entry into the field was not welcomed by Morgan, and they became fierce competitors. Eventually, they decided to minimize their competition by entering into joint ventures. In the end, they worked together to create a national banking cartel called the Federal Reserve System. — G. Edward Griffin, The Creature from Jekyll Island, American Opinion Publishing, p. 209. (Emphasis supplied).

These three financial families, the Rothschilds, Morgans, and Rockefellers all do the bidding of the Jesuit Order because of Jesuit infiltration in their organizations. They do whatever is necessary to destroy constitutional liberty in America and to bring the pope to world domination. As we look back over the 20th century, we see how successful the Jesuits have been. They have continued to squander the wealth of America and continually attack its great constitution and civil liberties. Daily, the power of the pope in Vatican City increases. One day they will achieve total power again.

The building of the Titanic began in 1909 at a shipyard in Belfast, the capitol of Northern Ireland. Belfast was a Protestant haven and was hated by the Jesuits. World War One began just a few years later.

The Titanic was one of a fleet of ships owned by the White Star Line, an international shipping company.

Banking was not the only business in which Morgan had a strong financial interest. Using his control over the nation’s railroads as financial leverage, he had created an international shipping trust which included Germany’s two largest lines plus one of the two in England, the White Star Lines. — Ibid, p. 246.

There were a number of very rich and powerful men who made it abundantly clear that they were not in favor of the Federal Reserve System. J.P. Morgan was ordered by the Jesuits to build the Titanic. This ‘unsinkable’ ship would serve as the death ship for those who opposed the Jesuits’ plan for a Federal Reserve system.

These rich and powerful men would have been able to block the establishment of the Federal Reserve, and their power and fortunes had to be taken out of their hands. They had to be destroyed by a means so preposterous that no one would suspect that they were murdered, and no one would suspect the Jesuits. The Titanic was the vehicle of their destruction. In order to further shield the papacy and the Jesuits from suspicion, many Irish, French, and Italian Roman Catholics immigrating to the New World were aboard. They were people who were expendable. Protestants from Belfast who wanted to immigrate to the United States were also invited on board.

All the wealthy and powerful men the Jesuits wanted to get rid of were invited to take the cruise. Three of the richest and most important of these were Benjamin Guggenheim, Isador Strauss, the head of Macy’s Department Stores, and John Jacob Astor, probably the wealthiest man in the world. Their total wealth, at that time, using dollar values of their day was more than 500 million dollars. Today that amount of money would be worth nearly eleven billion dollars. These three men were coaxed and encouraged to board the floating palace. They had to be destroyed because the Jesuits knew they would use their wealth and influence to oppose a Federal Reserve Bank as well as the various wars that were being planned.

Edward Smith was the captain of the Titanic. He had been traveling the North Atlantic waters for twenty-six years and was the world’s most experienced master of the North Atlantic routs. He had worked for Jesuit, J.P. Morgan, for many years.

Edward Smith was a ‘Jesuit tempore co-adjator.’ This means that he was not a priest, but he was a Jesuit of the short robe. Jesuits are not necessarily priests. Those who are not priests serve the order through their profession. Anyone could be a Jesuit, and their identity would not be known. Edward Smith served the Jesuit Order in his profession as a sea captain.

Many interesting points about the Titanic are discussed in a videotape made by National Geographic in 1986. The videotape is entitled The Secrets of the Titanic. When the Titanic departed from Southern England on April 10, 1912, Francis Browne, the Jesuit master of Edward Smith, boarded the Titanic. This man was the most powerful Jesuit in all of Ireland and answered directly to the general of the Jesuit Order in Rome. The videotape declares:

A vacationing priest, Father Francis Browne, caught these poignant snapshots of his fellow passengers, most of them on a voyage to eternity. The next day Titanic made her last stop off the coast of Queenstown, Ireland. Here tenders brought out the last passengers; mostly Irish immigrants headed for new homes in America. And here, the lucky Father Browne disembarked.... Father Browne caught Captain Smith peering down from Titanic’s bridge, poised on the brink of destiny. — The Secrets of the Titanic, National Geographic, video tape, 1986.

Here is Jesuit treachery at its finest. The Provincial [Father Francis Browne] boards Titanic, photographs the victims, most assuredly briefs the Captain concerning his oath as a Jesuit, and the following morning bids him farewell. — Eric J. Phelps, Vatican Assassins, Halycon Unified Services, p. 427.

Browne went over with Edward Smith one last time exactly what he was supposed to do in the North Atlantic waters. The Jesuit General told Francis Browne what was to happen; Browne then tells Smith and the rest is history. Edward Smith believed that the Jesuit General

. . . is the god of the [Jesuit] society, and nothing but his electric touch can galvanize their dead corpses into life and action. Until he speaks, they are like serpents coiled up in their wintry graves, lifeless and inactive; but the moment he gives the word of command, each member springs instantaneously to his feet, leaving unfinished whatsoever may have engaged him, ready to assail whomsoever he may require to be assailed, and to strike wheresoever he shall direct a blow to be stricken. — R.W. Thompson, The Footprints of the Jesuits, Hunt and Eaton, pp. 72, 73.

Edward Smith was given an order to sink the Titanic and that is exactly what he did.

By the command of God, [the Jesuit General] it is lawful to murder the innocent, to rob, to commit all lewdness, because he [the Pope] is Lord of life, and death, and of all things; and thus to fulfill his mandate is our duty. — W. C. Brownlee, Secret Instructions of the Jesuits, American and Foreign Christian Union, p. 143.

There is no record in history of an association whose organization has stood for three hundred years unchanged and unaltered by all the assaults of men and time, and which has exercised such an immense influence over the destinies of mankind… ‘The ends justify the means,’ is his favorite maxim; and as his only end, as we have shewn, is the order, at its bidding the Jesuit is ready to commit any crime whatsoever. — G. B. Nicolini, The History of the Jesuits, Henry G. Bohn, pp. 495, 496, emphasis added.

Let us remember the oath that every person takes to become a part of the Jesuit Order:

I should regard myself as a dead body, without will or intelligence, as a little crucifix which is turned about unresistingly at the will of him who holds it as a staff in the hands of an old man, who uses it as he requires it, and as it suits him best. — R. W. Thompson, The Footprints of the Jesuits, Hunt and Eaton, p. 54.

When a person takes the Jesuit Oath, he is bound to his master until the day that he dies. Edward Smith had become a man without will or intelligence. He would commit any crime the Order wanted him to commit. Edward Smith had been required for martyrdom. On board the Titanic that night, Edward Smith knew his duty. He was under oath. The ship had been built for the enemies of the Jesuits. After three days at sea with only one pair of glasses for the bridge, Edward Smith propelled the Titanic full speed ahead, twenty-two knots, on a moonless dark night through a gigantic ice field nearly eighty square miles in area. Edward Smith did this despite at least eight telegrams warning him to be more cautious because he was going too fast.

Did Edward Smith need one caution? No, he had been traveling those waters for twenty-six years. He knew there were icebergs in that area. But eight cautions did not stop this man who was under the Jesuit oath, and under orders to destroy the Titanic.

The absurdity of warning veteran Captain Edward Smith repeatedly on Titanic’s tragic night to slow down is nothing short of preposterous. The fact that Smith never listened or heeded the warnings is insane. He had been given orders from his god in the Vatican, and nothing would turn him from his course.

The encyclopedias paint a very tragic picture of Smith in his last hours. When it came time to give the order to load and lower the lifeboats, Smith wavered and one of his aids had to approach him for the order to be given. Smith’s legendary skills of leadership seem to have left him; he was curiously indecisive and unusually cautious on that fatal night. Are these words to describe a legendary sea captain with 26 years of experience, or are these words to describe a man who was struggling in his mind whether he should do his duty as a sea captain or obey his master who told him to sink the ship?

John Jacob Astor’s wife got into a life boat and was saved, while John Jacob Astor perished in the waters of the North Atlantic. There were not enough lifeboats and many of them were only half full with only women and children.
To prevent nearby freighters from responding with help, the distress flares were white when they should have been red. White flares to passing freighters state that everybody was having a party.

One of the greatest tragedies of the twentieth century, the sinking of the Titanic, lies at the door of the Jesuit Order. The unsinkable ship, the floating palace was created to be the tomb for the wealthy, who opposed the Federal Reserve System. By April, 1912, all opposition to the Federal Reserve was eliminated. In December of 1913, the Federal Reserve System came into being in the United States. Eight months later, the Jesuits had sufficient funding through the Federal Reserve bank to begin World War One.
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The beauty of the whole set up/scam is that they would have got all their money back through insurance and then some.
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But wait...I saw the movie and it didn't say anything like this.

James Cameron wouldn't lie would he?

If you can't trust Hollywood, who can you trust?
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The movie "Titanic" by James Cameron was released 100 years after Morgan Robertson's short story "Futility" was published.

In the movie after the dinner scene with Jack, the big shots head to the first class smoking lounge.

There is a quick shot of that scene where the men are discussing something of great importance.

Next time you watch it, listen to what they are talking about.


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The beauty of the whole set up/scam is that they would have got all their money back through insurance and then some.
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Exactly! They "pulled" a "Larry".

Have your company make the ship, probably getting kickbacks in the process from some of your materials suppliers (such as steel), sell the tickets, kill your competitors by sinking the ship, and collect the insurance money for an "act of God" (with a policy that is quite possibly drawn thru a company that is either owned or manager by a co-conspirator anyway).

Brilliant! (In an evil fucker sorta way)
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Yes, the Titanic was sunk to eliminate opposition to the FRS.

But the Jesuits had nothing to do with it. They were not part of the conspiracy, having neither the means, nor any connection to the conspirators.

Who actually gained from the FRS? (hint: not a small group of Catholic monks).
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Who are the Jesuits, really? (research this)

Hint: Was Ignatius Loyola really Catholic?
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Very well could be.

As to the captain who was not a rooky when it came to the arctic seas, how could he have been so stupid to run the ship into an iceberg? He could have easily avoided that area as he knew it was there.

But another thing, he went down with the ship didn't he? Sounds awful weird as to why he commited suicide for those jesuits.

Does anyone have hard evidence for this theory?
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