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THE MOST PERFECT CRIME EVER COMMITTED:The Sinking Of The Titanic 1912, Created To Be A Tomb For The Wealthy Opposing The Federal Reserve Act 1913

 
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E.J. Smith was most definitely a Methodist.
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Some Jesuit Heroes

[link to www.illuminati-news.com]

The order's illustrious found Ignatius Loyola is documented in the history of the faith. Without this heroes great vision, brilliance and divine calling nothing would have been achieved. The Catholic church would be merely one of the voices representing Jesus rather than the only source of religion speaking to all the peoples of the world for all eternity. This was proven to the Vatican itself after Pope Clement XIV disbanded to Order. The Vatican itself saw the great decline in the interest of the people and of course the lack of revenues that resulted.

Cardinal Spellman - Facilitated the JFK assasination for the Jesuit Brotherhood.

Joseph P. Kennedy - Facilitated the United States great depression for the Jesuits.

Prescott Bush - Facilitated the funding of Hitler for the Jesuit cause.

Captain Edward J. Smith - Captain of the Titanic and Jesuit Priest.

J. Edgar Hoover - Director of the United States FBI

Colonell House - Jesuit Priest and puppeteer of Woodrow Wilson.

Fidel Castro - Jesuit trained inquisitionist in control of Cuba
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WOW!

I have long suspected this. Nice to see it in print.

Thanks

It is common for the PTB to crash a large passenger plane to kill a single good targeted person. The murder of Jonathan Mann who was trying to expose the US bio-lab origins of AIDS comes to mind.
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It's also interesting that the Jekyll Island meeting in which the Federal Reserve Act in its original form was conceived took place in late 1910, when construction of the Titanic was already well under way. How could the ship have been deliberately built as a murder weapon when she was conceived and designed in 1907, more than three years before the Federal Reserve Act was proposed? Titanic's keel was laid in 1909...
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The people who run the world think in terms of decades if not centuries. For example WTC7 which played a large part in 9/11 was constructed in 1985 long after WTC1 and WTC2. IMO from its inception WTC7s' role in 9/11 was well known to the few evil people who were putting 9/11 together perhaps in the 1970s or sooner.
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Some Jesuit Heroes

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Captain Edward J. Smith - Captain of the Titanic and Jesuit Priest.

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Umkay... Smith is now a "Priest"???

Sorry, but Greg Szymanski is hardly an unbiased source. Nor does he source any of this article of his.

Where it the real proof that Smith was a Jesuit agent?
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The people who run the world think in terms of decades if not centuries. For example WTC7 which played a large part in 9/11 was constructed in 1985 long after WTC1 and WTC2. IMO from its inception WTC7s' role in 9/11 was well known to the few evil people who were putting 9/11 together perhaps in the 1970s or sooner.
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How right you are....
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G R E A T



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The people who run the world think in terms of decades if not centuries. For example WTC7 which played a large part in 9/11 was constructed in 1985 long after WTC1 and WTC2. IMO from its inception WTC7s' role in 9/11 was well known to the few evil people who were putting 9/11 together perhaps in the 1970s or sooner.
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That's totally irrelevant here. The original post said that the Jesuits ordered the Titanic to be built as a murder weapon to kill John Jacob Astor IV, Benjamin Guggenheim, and Isidor Straus because they opposed the Federal Reserve Act proposal (for which I've found no real evidence thus far), which until 1913, was the Aldrich Bill, which stipulated private bankers' control of the proposed Federal Reserve. In 1913, the Aldrich Bill was scrapped and replaced by the Owen-Glass Bill, which stipulated much more government control of the banks.

The problem here is that the original Federal Reserve bill wasn't even proposed until 1910, THREE YEARS AFTER the Olympic and Titanic were conceived and designed in 1907. This is an indisputable fact. A modest search of the internet will yield a complete timeline of the construction of these two, later three, ships. How could the Jesuits have ordered the construction of Titanic as a death ship in 1907 to kill opponents of an act that hadn't even been conceived yet? Wait a minute, the article says basically that the Jesuits ordered Titanic's construction after the 1910 Jekyll Island meeting which produced the Federal Reserve Act, doesn't it? After all, how can we have a death ship with no motive? In that case, the Jesuits would have ordered the building of a ship which was already more than 50 percent complete! This conspiracy theory has more holes than the Titanic herself does right now!
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The people who run the world think in terms of decades if not centuries. For example WTC7 which played a large part in 9/11 was constructed in 1985 long after WTC1 and WTC2. IMO from its inception WTC7s' role in 9/11 was well known to the few evil people who were putting 9/11 together perhaps in the 1970s or sooner.



That's totally irrelevant here. The original post said that the Jesuits ordered the Titanic to be built as a murder weapon to kill John Jacob Astor IV, Benjamin Guggenheim, and Isidor Straus because they opposed the Federal Reserve Act proposal (for which I've found no real evidence thus far), which until 1913, was the Aldrich Bill, which stipulated private bankers' control of the proposed Federal Reserve. In 1913, the Aldrich Bill was scrapped and replaced by the Owen-Glass Bill, which stipulated much more government control of the banks.

The problem here is that the original Federal Reserve bill wasn't even proposed until 1910, THREE YEARS AFTER the Olympic and Titanic were conceived and designed in 1907. This is an indisputable fact. A modest search of the internet will yield a complete timeline of the construction of these two, later three, ships. How could the Jesuits have ordered the construction of Titanic as a death ship in 1907 to kill opponents of an act that hadn't even been conceived yet? Wait a minute, the article says basically that the Jesuits ordered Titanic's construction after the 1910 Jekyll Island meeting which produced the Federal Reserve Act, doesn't it? After all, how can we have a death ship with no motive? In that case, the Jesuits would have ordered the building of a ship which was already more than 50 percent complete! This conspiracy theory has more holes than the Titanic herself does right now!
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I think the original constructions plans for the Titanic, were not related to some specific event or to the federal reserve act in the first place..
They just wanted to have a ship ready, in case they had to kill off a bunch of people.

If there would never have been something like the federal reserve act, they would have used it in some other future upcoming event...
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Smith`s mother was a methodist, which does not mean he was a practising methodist himself at a later age..(see my post before)

I've read your post before and though biographical info on Captain Smith seems scant so far, I've found he attended that same Methodist church as a boy and enjoyed conducting Protestant services aboard his ships on Sundays, including the Titanic on the morning of April 14, 1912. Judging by the biographies I've read from non-partisan and Titanic sites, he was a pretty secular person for the most part, which would seem odd for a Jesuit priest bent on committing suicide to kill the enemies of his superiors.

The fact that Francis Browne, the "most powerful Jesuit in all Ireland" according to the original post, was actually only a CANDIDATE for the priesthood and a teacher at Belvedere College (Titanic:Destination Disaster by John P. Eaton & Charles A. Haas, p.89) at the time he boarded Titanic is hard to ignore. I find it difficult to believe that the supreme leader of the Society of Jesus in Ireland was a mere teacher and not even a priest yet at the time he ordered Smith (whom you and/or others here suppose WAS a priest) to sink his ship. A non-priest giving a suicide order to a priest? Hmmmm.....
And: they did not have to have a vote on the federal reserve act itself...but, because they where rich, through their connections in congress and the like..


Sure they didn't have to have a vote--they weren't Congressmen or members of the government. But William Jennings Bryan was--AND he was the most vocal and most publicly visible opponent of the Federal Reserve Act. Why did the Illuminati/Jesuits ignore him? Plus, the only info I've ever found on Astor, Guggenheim, and Straus in connection with the Federal Reserve Act on the 'net is on conspiracy sites like this one. Just a coincidence, perhaps? I think not. I'll have to search for their papers in the library for this one...but so far it doesn't seem like they were active opponents of the FED...

And:

The Federal Reserve Act (ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251, enacted December 23, 1913, 12 U.S.C. ch.3) is the act of Congress that created the Federal Reserve System, the central banking system of the United States of America, which was signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The date of 1913, is the date that matters...not 1910

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Nope, for the purposes of this conspiracy, 1910 is the date that matters. The reason is this: the 1910 proposal was a Republican-sponsored business-friendly affair which would have created a Federal Reserve, but one directed by the New York banking establishment which ALREADY controlled American finance. Aldrich and J.P. Morgan did NOT foresee or want Federal control of the banks when they proposed this version.

After the 1912 elections, the original Jekyll Island proposal was defeated when the Democrats came to power and they introduced the Owen-Glass Bill, which was a REVISED version which gave more power to the GOVERNMENT than to the bankers, contrary to Morgan's and Aldrich's wishes. Isn't THAT interesting? President Wilson in 1913 offered enough concessions to make this palatable to Aldrich and Morgan & company to get their sponsorship, or at least their grumbling tolerance of it, and it was passed later that year. THIS is the Federal Reserve Act which supposedly the victims of Titanic were killed for. Except for the troublesome fact that they were already dead by 1913 when Owen and Glass proposed it, and thus could NOT have had ANY opinion on it either in support or otherwise. It seems to me that Truth Triumphant Ministries has rather low standards for the scholarship of its authors--I was able to locate this information with a single library visit.
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I think the original constructions plans for the Titanic, were not related to some specific event or to the federal reserve act in the first place..
They just wanted to have a ship ready, in case they had to kill off a bunch of people.

If there would never have been something like the federal reserve act, they would have used it in some other future upcoming event...
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Well, then that puts you at odds with the entire Truth Triumphant Ministries account of this conspiracy. All of a sudden the Titanic as a tool of the Federal Reserve Act has evaporated here...hmmmmm--wasn't that the central theme of the original article? What other upcoming event do you suppose the Titanic (and not her nearly identical sister ships Olympic and Britannic) have been used for?
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the best disinformation hides the truth in an apparent fiction

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Thought about this years ago. Same with the sinking of the Lusitania. Timing and gild, perfect.
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I think the original constructions plans for the Titanic, were not related to some specific event or to the federal reserve act in the first place..
They just wanted to have a ship ready, in case they had to kill off a bunch of people.

If there would never have been something like the federal reserve act, they would have used it in some other future upcoming event...



Well, then that puts you at odds with the entire Truth Triumphant Ministries account of this conspiracy. All of a sudden the Titanic as a tool of the Federal Reserve Act has evaporated here...hmmmmm--wasn't that the central theme of the original article? What other upcoming event do you suppose the Titanic (and not her nearly identical sister ships Olympic and Britannic) have been used for?
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The building of the Titanic was planned years in advance, as the adaption of the federal Reserve Act was planned years in advance..
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The building of the Titanic was planned years in advance, as the adaption of the federal Reserve Act was planned years in advance..
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Yes, RMS Olympic and her sister ships Titanic and Britannic were planned in 1907 by J. Bruce Ismay, chairman of White Star and Lord Pirrie, president of Harland & Wolff Shipyards in Belfast. They were designed to compete with Cunard's brand-new speed queens, the four-stackers Lusitania and Mauretania, which both entered service that year.

It is true that there was some discussion of a return to central banking in the US before this, which was seriously pursued after the financial panic of 1907. But, as I mentioned before, the version of the Federal Reserve Act that ended up being passed created 12 Federal banking districts, each of which is a separate corporation which is wholly owned by the participating banks and S&Ls in each of these districts, and NOT as a privately-owned central bank empire in New York, which is what J.P. Morgan and his allies originally wanted. In other words, there was no foreign ownership. And since most of the interest generated during the year by the FED is put back into the Treasury, this didn't really end up helping Morgan much.

Furthermore, how would this FED setup help the Jesuits in any way? The original post claims that the Jesuits used money generated by the FED to start World War I. Again, there is a timeline problem here. None of the Federal Reserve banks actually began operations until very late in 1914, several months AFTER World War I broke out.

If the Titanic was intended as a tomb for the wealthy, she was pretty poorly-designed for the purpose, as the ship was laid out in a way that gave the wealthy the easiest access to the lifeboats---evidenced by the fact that more First Class males survived the sinking than Third Class children. And First Officer Murdoch, who was loading the boats on the starboard side and who was in command at the time of the collision, had no qualms about letting men aboard. So if Murdoch hit the iceberg deliberately (the article doesn't explain why Smith wasn't on the bridge at the time) it would be difficult to come up with a believable explanation of why he willingly let First-Class men in the lifeboats, despite Smith's directive of "women and children first."
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Furthermore, how would this FED setup help the Jesuits in any way? The original post claims that the Jesuits used money generated by the FED to start World War I. Again, there is a timeline problem here. None of the Federal Reserve banks actually began operations until very late in 1914, several months AFTER World War I broke out.

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There were several Federal Reserve Banks in the US prior to 1914

So, money never was the real problem...
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and sink us all into the cold waters of perpetual debt.


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and that's why they call themselves a lien.


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and sink us all into the cold waters of perpetual debt.


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and that's why they call themselves a lien.

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Indeed: see here:

Money As Debt

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Gold and paper money are just portable markers for the exchange of labor, goods and services between people.

If the banksters keep up their economic crises the little people will take eggs to the store to pay for things.
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I have posted this movie several times,here at GLP. But ok: here it is again: 3 HOURS; After seeing it you will understand what is going on in the world ..

The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America

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There were several Federal Reserve Banks in the US prior to 1914

So, money never was the real problem...

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No there weren't. None of the 12 Federal Reserve Banks began operations until November 16, 1914. President Wilson had hoped that operations could begin in August, but their opening was delayed BY the outbreak of World War I in Europe in late August of that year.

I think you're confusing central banks with Federal Reserve banks.
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E.J. Smith was most definitely a Methodist. Funny how I have yet to see a reference to ANY primary sources confirming that John Jacob Astor IV, Benjamin Guggenheim, Isidor Straus, or any of the other wealthy aboard the Titanic had ANY vote on the Federal Reserve Act or indeed any interest in it one way or the other. As fervently as some people here believe this theory, it seems quite odd how little real evidence supporting it is being presented.

It's also interesting that the Jekyll Island meeting in which the Federal Reserve Act in its original form was conceived took place in late 1910, when construction of the Titanic was already well under way. How could the ship have been deliberately built as a murder weapon when she was conceived and designed in 1907, more than three years before the Federal Reserve Act was proposed? Titanic's keel was laid in 1909...
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And half the lifeboats were removed - unsightly.
High sulfur iron. No metalurgists in 1900?
And upon the death of Morgan - ostensibly whitestar lines owner - was revealed the bulk of the funds actually were Rothchild money. Plans like this may be a decade in fruition.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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And half the lifeboats were removed - unsightly.
High sulfur iron. No metalurgists in 1900?
And upon the death of Morgan - ostensibly whitestar lines owner - was revealed the bulk of the funds actually were Rothchild money. Plans like this may be a decade in fruition.
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Alexander Carlisle of Harland & Wolff, the builders of Titanic, wanted to put 32 lifeboats on the ship, but Ismay decided against it, not J.P. Morgan. Yes, the steel used in Titanic was high in sulfur by today's standards, but was among the best available in 1912. Her sister ship Olympic was built with the same steel and she enjoyed a long 20-year career. The Queen Mary was built with identical steel in the 1930s, and she survived a major collision with a cruiser in 1943 (the cruiser sank) and the QM is still afloat today in Long Beach. Metallurgy didn't make leaps and bounds until after World War II.

When Morgan died in 1913, he left about $100,000,000, which was much less than everyone expected. Where's your source that it was Rothschild money?
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if you warn him you risk exposure. The trap was set - anyone who was anyone would return on the maiden voyage of the Titanic. Seriously - who would build water tight bulkheads that were open at the top. Like installing a screen door on a submarine.
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Wait a minute. The original article here says that Straus was a powerful opponent of the Federal Reserve. I've just proven that it's crap. Now all of a sudden he's an ally who is going to be sacrificed to prevent exposure. I've still seen no answer to my question of why the strongest REAL opponent of the FED (William Jennings Bryan) was ignored by the Jesuits.

Who would build watertight bulkheads that were open at the top? The answer is every shipbuilder in the world in 1912. And probably quite a few today. In fact the Titanic's watertight compartment system was better than what the Andrea Doria (built in 1953) had. The Lusitania had a better compartment system than Titanic, yet she sank in only 15 minutes after a torpedo hit.
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And half the lifeboats were removed - unsightly.
High sulfur iron. No metalurgists in 1900?
And upon the death of Morgan - ostensibly whitestar lines owner - was revealed the bulk of the funds actually were Rothchild money. Plans like this may be a decade in fruition.


Alexander Carlisle of Harland & Wolff, the builders of Titanic, wanted to put 32 lifeboats on the ship, but Ismay decided against it, not J.P. Morgan. Yes, the steel used in Titanic was high in sulfur by today's standards, but was among the best available in 1912. Her sister ship Olympic was built with the same steel and she enjoyed a long 20-year career. The Queen Mary was built with identical steel in the 1930s, and she survived a major collision with a cruiser in 1943 (the cruiser sank) and the QM is still afloat today in Long Beach. Metallurgy didn't make leaps and bounds until after World War II.

When Morgan died in 1913, he left about $100,000,000, which was much less than everyone expected. Where's your source that it was Rothschild money?
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Figure 7 is a plot of the impact energy versus temperature for the three series of specimens. At higher temperatures, the specimens prepared from the hull plate in the longitudinal direction have substantially better impact properties than for the transverse specimens. At low temperatures, the impact energy required to fracture the longitudinal and transverse specimens is essentially the same. The severe banding is certainly the cause of the differences in the impact energy to cause fracture at elevated temperatures. The specimens made from ASTM A36 steel have the best impact properties. The ductile-brittle transition temperature determined at an impact energy of 20 joules is -27°C for ASTM A36, 32°C for the longitudinal specimens made from the Titanic hull plate, and 56°C for the transverse specimens. It is apparent that the steel used for the hull was not suited for service at low temperatures. The seawater temperature at the time of the collision was -2°C.
[link to www.tms.org]

[link to www.barnesreview.org]
Ironically, at this juncture, there is one other little-known fact about the Morgan interests that is worth noting. Although Morgan was internationally famed as a “robber baron” and as “the world’s most powerful banker,” populist historian Eustace Mullins was perhaps the first (and possibly the only) writer of any consequence to ever point out that the Morgan financial empire was little more than an American-based front for the ever-expanding tentacles of the Rothschild family of Europe.

Thus, in a sense, the Rothschilds themselves were the ultimate owners of the ill-fated Titanic and the shipping line that due to a heady arrogance relative to the ship’s structural capacities sent it to the bottom of the Atlantic. But it was J.P. Morgan, the Rothschild front man, and—even more so—J. Bruce Ismay, scion of the industrious family that created and nurtured the White Star Line, who faced the public’s fury and who were demonized in the press.
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Who would build watertight bulkheads that were open at the top? The answer is every shipbuilder in the world in 1912. And probably quite a few today. In fact the Titanic's watertight compartment system was better than what the Andrea Doria (built in 1953) had. The Lusitania had a better compartment system than Titanic, yet she sank in only 15 minutes after a torpedo hit.
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You a naval architect?
It isnt even common sense to build "watertight" open at the top. It obviously isnt watertight
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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You a naval architect?


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Yes. And the 1998 article on Titanic's steel you submitted has since been disproven, based on an investigation of the iceberg damage on the wreck via ultrasound. What they found was that the hull plates had been bent inward, causing rivets to pop at the seams, which admitted seawater and doomed the ship. In other words, although steel of this composition becomes brittle at low temps, it didn't fracture in the iceberg collision, which is amazing, actually.
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Re: THE MOST PERFECT CRIME EVER COMMITTED:The Sinking Of The Titanic 1912, Created To Be A Tomb For The Wealthy Opposing The Federal Reserve Act 1913




You a naval architect?




Yes. And the 1998 article on Titanic's steel you submitted has since been disproven, based on an investigation of the iceberg damage on the wreck via ultrasound. What they found was that the hull plates had been bent inward, causing rivets to pop at the seams, which admitted seawater and doomed the ship. In other words, although steel of this composition becomes brittle at low temps, it didn't fracture in the iceberg collision, which is amazing, actually.
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It's already been shown though that those rivets were sub- industry standard junk. They were placed along the bow section of the outer hull, stretching the first 5 watertight compartments. 5 flooded compartments on Titanic equaled doom. After that they transition to steel. It could have been a designed crumple zone. Murdoch should have rammed the berg. Instead he dragged the berg straight across this designed weak spot.

His behavior, along with Capt. Smith's that night, was very strange.


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Re: THE MOST PERFECT CRIME EVER COMMITTED:The Sinking Of The Titanic 1912, Created To Be A Tomb For The Wealthy Opposing The Federal Reserve Act 1913
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The Sinking of the Titanic

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Yes, Father Browne, who was not even a priest yet at the time, is the most powerful Jesuit in all of Ireland. Right. Funny thing is, he didn't get any pictures of John Jacob Astor IV or Benjamin Guggenheim. As I've noted earlier, Isidor Straus SUPPORTED the Federal Reserve plan. The other pictures he took were of his cabin, the wireless room, a lot of 3rd Class passengers, the Odell family which he disembarked at Queenstown with, and a boy playing with a top on the deck (who survived the sinking). And of Captain Smith, who happened to be peering down from the bridge wing.

If his mission was to photograph Titanic's intended targets, it is safe to say that he failed miserably.

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