Unconstitutional & Illegal National Firearm Licensing Program Proposed | |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 01/20/2009 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Text of H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 view it here [link to www.govtrack.us] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 01/20/2009 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, it is not unconstitutional to require license. Idiot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596851good morning to you too fuck-shit. i didnt write the article. take it up with the author. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 01/20/2009 05:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the unconstitutional part is where exactly in the legislation? Quoting: georgebushworstprezever 565924And why yet another thread on this same topic? i couldnt find my other thread on this. tried adv search too. forgot the title. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 512968 United States 01/20/2009 05:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, it is not unconstitutional to require license. Idiot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596851exactly, licensing is not obstructive, cars have licenses but lets not get crazy... Do you have a printer with a 100 sheet magazine? Assault printer. You just need a printer license. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 562223 United States 01/20/2009 05:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, it is not unconstitutional to require license. Idiot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596851Yes, license implies required permission for ownership. Owning a gun is a RIGHT. This is the same as requiring you to get a license to speak or to practice your religion. A license that can be denied to you and be illegal if you did not get a license. This bill is the end of all rights. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 592946 United States 01/20/2009 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it's passed into law then it's not unconstitutional. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596854The constitution is not perfect. By your logic, the right for women to vote is unconstitutional. Things change The 19th Amendment was added to the Constitution, not a law blatantly disregarding the 2nd Amendment. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 512968 United States 01/20/2009 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the unconstitutional part is where exactly in the legislation? Quoting: georgebushworstprezever 565924Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were a kid? There are Federal funds availalble for children(now adult) who are lead damaged. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 01/20/2009 05:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, it is not unconstitutional to require license. Idiot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 562223Yes, license implies required permission for ownership. Owning a gun is a RIGHT. This is the same as requiring you to get a license to speak or to practice your religion. A license that can be denied to you and be illegal if you did not get a license. This bill is the end of all rights. sort of like the vaccinations: its not a law not to be vaccinated. but it is school policies/politics your kids cant go to school w/o being vaccinated. if your kids isnt vaccinated, the school goes after the parents for truancy. last summer i think it was in new jersey?? damn it was all over infowars - it was a thread on here too, the school district required more vaccinations or something. kids sent him until vaccinated. parents refused - they arrested the parents for truancy. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 469820 United States 01/20/2009 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's amazing that bills of this nature doesn't push some true Patriots over the edge and make them start the 2nd revolution by shooting the traitors in Washington that are out to destroy the Constititution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596899Maybe because they dont think it'll be "all that bad" or some think that it aint really gonna happen? I cant explain it, but it's sure telling of the condition of apathy that has our nation enslaved. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 596851 United States 01/20/2009 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SCOTUS many times has ruled on this; a license does NOT prevent one from getting a gun, so it does not violate the Bill of Rights. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 01/20/2009 05:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, it is not unconstitutional to require license. Idiot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 562223Yes, license implies required permission for ownership. Owning a gun is a RIGHT. This is the same as requiring you to get a license to speak or to practice your religion. A license that can be denied to you and be illegal if you did not get a license. This bill is the end of all rights. exactly The licensing requirements mandate that it will be unlawful for anyone to possess a firearm unless they have a license certified under the legislation. Unless you are a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer or licensed collector you will not be able to own a firearm. State firearm licensing and record of sale systems must be certified under section 602 of the bill. the constitution may say that you have a right to arms, but if you dont have the license you'd be breaking the law (if enacted) political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 512968 United States 01/20/2009 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Constitution does not say you can't make things like a license requirement; as anyone who knows things, knows the rights were not given to all, nor are given to all (if you have had a felony, you can't get guns, despite the Bill of Rights). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596851Exactly, the courts have caused their own problems. In the OLD DAYS. Felons mostly died during punishment, or during incarceration, so post felony status was left unaddressed. Now with no corporal punishment, and short incarcerations, a situation is created. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 596851 United States 01/20/2009 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's already been in the legal system, ruled by SCOTUS, that one can make a license requirement for guns. It doesn't prevent gun ownership, but helps regulate as is expected by the Constitution as well. People in the 21st century misinterpret the Constitution in so many ways. "Free speech" doesn't mean libel, or freedom to say anything you want; there are limits. "Gun rights" are the same. |
georgebushworstprezever User ID: 565924 United States 01/20/2009 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it's passed into law then it's not unconstitutional. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 592946The constitution is not perfect. By your logic, the right for women to vote is unconstitutional. Things change The 19th Amendment was added to the Constitution, not a law blatantly disregarding the 2nd Amendment. This is a ridiculous argument. Case in point: the 18th and 21st amendments. |
georgebushworstprezever User ID: 565924 United States 01/20/2009 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the unconstitutional part is where exactly in the legislation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 512968Did you eat a lot of paint chips when you were a kid? There are Federal funds availalble for children(now adult) who are lead damaged. Are you kidding me?!! My family was dirt poor when I was growing up; we wish we had some paint chips to fill our bellies like those rich families' kids did. |
georgebushworstprezever User ID: 565924 United States 01/20/2009 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's already been in the legal system, ruled by SCOTUS, that one can make a license requirement for guns. It doesn't prevent gun ownership, but helps regulate as is expected by the Constitution as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596851People in the 21st century misinterpret the Constitution in so many ways. "Free speech" doesn't mean libel, or freedom to say anything you want; there are limits. "Gun rights" are the same. Exactly. I'm still waiting for the OP to show us the unconstitutional parts of this legislation. |
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Evil Twin 01/20/2009 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's another big thread on the bill. Thread: HR 45 - Gun Registration & Tracking! Loss of all Freedom! |
Northern_Yoop User ID: 596719 United States 01/20/2009 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can pass all of the laws that they want. The day they make gun ownership illegal is the day I become a criminal. I choose to obey the laws but have broken a few just like every person in the country. I will never completely obey the traffic laws "yes I speed". If my economic situation made it a need I would not obey game laws if my family was starving. I pay my taxes like the rest of the sheep and live a law abiding life for the most part. If I am caught breaking a law I am willing to pay the price. One way to get the most out of life is to look upon it as an adventure. William Feather |