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planetbarb2008 (OP) User ID: 577415 United States 01/21/2009 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Marshall Masters stated that once the government or science announces the planet is there and it becomes known it is gradually approaching our earth, from that point it will be "18 to 24 months lead time," before it really gets close to the earth. He is saying 2012 or 2013 closest point. I am not a scientist but I am saying that if this planet is ever announced then be aware there could be solar changes which affect our communications LONG before the planet is at its closest point to us, as it passes us in its orbit. WHY is this something to think about ahead of time? Answer: At some point computers will fry and may not even be possible to make a phone call let alone retrieve data from your computer. There are faraday cages and so on but who knows how much data could be lost. If you have survival information, records, anything valuable to you, by all means do print out a hard copy and laminate it and store it in a safe box which you can grab and take with you. Print it out now and know where you have safeguarded it. I am talking about fishing hunting meat drying food storage, hygiene safety, food growing, water purifying, first aid and etc. Print out basic survival data and keep it. At some point, perhaps a year or two ahead of time it will be "visible as a faint reddish object." In time it will be visible in the daytime. All I can say is: Whether the PTB ever inform you or not - if you can ever see a faintly visible reddish object in the DAYTIME - best to be aware it may high time to try to set up a survival shelter. for you and your loved ones or friends. So what I have to say is, people should at least be aware of the possibility of this happening in just a few short years. Those that are able to obtain some land inland and store food and water to last years, should do so. Sometimes cooperation with others and putting funds together is the only solution. If the PX scenario does happen - any coastline or flat body of land will NOT be the place to be. Remember if high winds start and there are fireballs it will be difficult to get into your shelter so have it set up and if it seems to be time go there. I read one datum that if you see reddish ash on the ground that is from the planet and you have perhaps six hours to get to your shelter before 200 mph winds and fireballs start. Needless to say you will have to have some gasoline stored and able to take it with you. Caution on all this. If you go to or near mountains best NOT to be on the "mountain building" or more volcanic side. High elevation valleys would probably be safe refuges. I have a lot to learn still myself about locations but am looking at central southern Canada or northern US near the border. This continent has a central core of hard rock. That is where to be, inland on that and up above sea level. Not sure how high - a few hundred feet. Perched on a mountain top is the place to be either... Reinforced concrete domes at least partway buried into the ground, with some means of air filtration available that would last a few weeks, some alternative stored power supply. This scenario will include a short term of extremely high winds, debris, fires, chemicals, fireballs etc. There will need to be a way to have some air into the shelter. Again not an expert but I'd say have a way to stay down inside there for three weeks minimum. Cool looking partly disguised home. Could have a mechanism so when everyone is shut inside something could be pulled up over the entrance so it looks like shrubbery. [link to www.daviddarling.info] I plan on moving forward with my plan as soon as I can. It really takes some effort and some funds to do something like this. Quitting the day job not advised because it all takes money. One thing I would do also is chamophlage the entire survival site so it is not so easily visible from the air or ground. I would put high fences and trees on the outside of these fences, but not so close that someone can just climb the tree and drop down into the compound. Any items for self protection will need to be safeguarded. |
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planetbarb (OP) User ID: 577415 United States 01/21/2009 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for the bump. A PS [link to www.daviddarling.info] The above image is worth another look... I would have a reinforced concrete dome with an over head like this one, looking like a little hill. Once everyone is inside I would want some kind of non - powered mechanism that pulls more chamoflage over the actual entrance and over any pavement outside. I would want something flameproof that looks like rocks and trees. Not sure yet where to find such things or how to set up the mechanism. It would be a good idea to have the entire thing disguised. Posting here a few links related to camoflage objects to cover up storage and also entrances to underground shelters. Just some ideas: Camoflage for buildings entrances etc. [link to www.utilitycamo.com] Camoflage boulder hatch, open [link to www.utilitycamo.com] Camoflage boulder hatch, closed [link to www.utilitycamo.com] Flameproof coatings above Am thinking this might not provide the level of flameproofing needed but it is a start, something to talk over.... ................................................ |
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planetbarb (OP) User ID: 577415 United States 01/21/2009 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This has to do with the planet, Nibiru, or Planet X. This could be the 3rd star of Sirius. Expect it to reappear again in about 700 days or so. Wouldn't be surprised. The signs are there. Two suns-2010 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376196700 days = approximately 23 months Call that two years. Are you saying we would be able to see what looks like a second sun around 2010 then the closest part of the crossover could be 2012? That would make it about late January 2012. I have also read calculations of as late as summer 2013 as the closest point of the crossover. Need to mention that the affects of the planet will be felt before its closest point and this is supposed to include volcanoes tsunamis and freaky storms and electrical problems... I read that the second sun will appear not as bright as the sun but will look like a second sun. Not sure what it would look like at its closest approach. I read that the serpents tail (like a comet) will be seen as the planet is moving away from the earth... |
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planetbarb (OP) User ID: 577415 United States 01/21/2009 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My head hurts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 509737Sorry if this bums you out... We all need to continue to be in present time, carry on our lives and earn money and do the best we can. Before a year and a half goes by there may be some scientific recognition of Planet X and where it is in relation to the earth. If not, there may be some signs of something unusual occurring. Whatever preparations can be made should be made, even if that means purchasing MREs or saving money. Because of sun activity important to print data out and have hard copy. At some point planetary upheavals could trash people's accounts so cash and land and supplies would be good to have instead of bank accounts. If people see a second sun I hope anyone who can put a shelter there for themselves and family would do so. Sooner rather than later...but there is time. If mankind went through this before - there were survivors - May as well be among the survivors. If none of this to do with X happens, then great, a person would have a survival or family homestead to go to and pass down to the generations; and the supplies can be used anyway. Blessings. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 597818 United States 01/21/2009 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This has to do with the planet, Nibiru, or Planet X. This could be the 3rd star of Sirius. Expect it to reappear again in about 700 days or so. Wouldn't be surprised. The signs are there. Two suns-2010 Quoting: planetbarb700 days = approximately 23 months Call that two years. Are you saying we would be able to see what looks like a second sun around 2010 then the closest part of the crossover could be 2012? That would make it about late January 2012. I have also read calculations of as late as summer 2013 as the closest point of the crossover. Need to mention that the affects of the planet will be felt before its closest point and this is supposed to include volcanoes tsunamis and freaky storms and electrical problems... I read that the second sun will appear not as bright as the sun but will look like a second sun. Not sure what it would look like at its closest approach. I read that the serpents tail (like a comet) will be seen as the planet is moving away from the earth... Do you believe every fairy tale you read? |
LifesReflections* User ID: 596244 United States 01/21/2009 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | is this the " IT' we have all been sensing? Sounds very bad indeed, where can you go, where can you hide? I am certain that our government has a stand by plan in place for the so called important people, the rest of us chumps will just be cannon fotter I fear.. Oh well, it was a fun ride... :it: Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!' |
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Opossumking User ID: 533255 United States 01/21/2009 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets say planet X does exist.... ANd it supposedly did wipe us out 3600 year's ago. Hit and almost wiped us out. Why is there still a planet X? Wouldnt it have been smashed to piece's or us? Or at least pushed so far of it's course it would never hit us again. Thats my point..did it hit us or not? If so show me where it hit us last time.. A planet hits us..i dont care if it happen 2millon years ago..there would be proof of it. So.....? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 593740 United States 01/21/2009 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets say planet X does exist.... Quoting: OpossumkingANd it supposedly did wipe us out 3600 year's ago. Hit and almost wiped us out. Why is there still a planet X? Wouldnt it have been smashed to piece's or us? Or at least pushed so far of it's course it would never hit us again. Thats my point..did it hit us or not? If so show me where it hit us last time.. A planet hits us..i dont care if it happen 2millon years ago..there would be proof of it. So.....? If a planet hit us 3600 years ago our Earth would still be more-or-less "dead". |
planetbarb (OP) User ID: 577415 United States 01/21/2009 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This has to do with the planet, Nibiru, or Planet X. This could be the 3rd star of Sirius. Expect it to reappear again in about 700 days or so. Wouldn't be surprised. The signs are there. Two suns-2010 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 597818700 days = approximately 23 months Call that two years. Are you saying we would be able to see what looks like a second sun around 2010 then the closest part of the crossover could be 2012? That would make it about late January 2012. I have also read calculations of as late as summer 2013 as the closest point of the crossover. Need to mention that the affects of the planet will be felt before its closest point and this is supposed to include volcanoes tsunamis and freaky storms and electrical problems... I read that the second sun will appear not as bright as the sun but will look like a second sun. Not sure what it would look like at its closest approach. I read that the serpents tail (like a comet) will be seen as the planet is moving away from the earth... Do you believe every fairy tale you read? Hi I can certainly understand your skepticism. Part of my personal philosophy has always been, if the imagination of man can conceive it, and if it is part of ancient legend and myth, it is possibly true. Every civilization we know of and have studied has ancient great flood stories, and stories of fireballs raining down and many have the great serpent. Sure imagination is a possibility, but to me it is more scientific, actually, to pay attention to all the ancient data and legends, tuck them away as part of the data base. Then when you find a scientifically proven fact that jives with the legend you may be onto something. There is a correlation. Remember what we were originally talking about is a NEW news story from the London Mail in the UK about proof an ancient civilization in the Americas (Peru) was wiped out about 3600 years ago. There is archaeological and geologic proof. Does this in and of itself prove the existence of Planet X or Niburu as we are discussing it? No, but it is possibly a missing piece of the puzzle. Any event that occurred 3600 years ago and was spoken about and passed down in spoken stories, any event that was written about by carving it into stones - of course these would be considered to be myths in the modern era. If a person is really honest and scientific about it, they canNOT say these stories are not true. What I did find out about is some of the ancient Chaldean stone tablets describing the great flood and about how mankind was almost entirely wiped out, this story also refers back to a time period way way farther back than that. It is conceivably possible the tablets are referring to the planetary crossover some 3600 years ago and also some 7200 years ago. Well I do not expect to convince you. Just be aware of what is happening and if there are extreme changes do what you can to protect yourself. All I can say... ........ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 551743 United States 01/21/2009 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to churchofcriticalthinking.org] The sumerians told us that Nibiru wreaks havoc with the earth's axis every second orbital pass. (Every 4000 years or so). Basically, Earth's axis precessed from a right tilt forward and probably 180 to the left in around 10 or 20 hours due to the gravational "jolt" that takes place Sumerian Mathmatics 101 The Sumerian sexigesimal system of numbers works with changing factors that increase by 6 and 10. The formula equates as follows: 1, 10, 60, 600, 3,600, 36,000, 216,000 bla bla so on, etc. Every other preceding number is multiplied by 6 or 10. The number 5,000 is written as 12,320 in Sumerian. 3,600 600 60 10 1 ------------------------------ 1 2 3 2 0 ---- thus, 1x3600 + 2x600 + 3x60 + 2x10 + 0x1 = 5,000. Still hanging with me? If we look at the number 3,600 and write it down the Sumerian way, we see that the result is 2,160. 3,600 600 60 10 1 -------------------------------- N/A 3 6 0 0 ---- thus, 3x600 + 6x60 + 0x10 + 0x1 = 2160. ======== The number 2,160 is the twelfth fraction of a precessional cycle that takes 25,920 years. If we divide 25,776 by twelve we get 2,148 years. We now conclude that the bi-orbital timeline of P-X is 2,148 years, not 3,600 or 2,160 years. If we proceed to calculate in periods of 2,148 years starting at 10,983 BC, then add another degree and a half of 25,776 to that: { meaning 107.4 years } thus/and/or ------------------------------------- { A degree and a half of 25,920 is 108 years}, -gulp- we then come up with a result of... 2012 AD! ... ============== * Hopi Predict a 25yr period of purification followed by End of Fourth World and beginning of the Fifth. * Mayans Call it the 'end days' or the end of time as we know it. * Maoris Say that as the veils dissolve there will be a merging of the physical & spiritual worlds. * Zulu Believe that the whole world will be turned upside down. * Hindus Kali Yuga (end time of man). The Coming of Kalki & critical mass of Enlightened Ones. * Incas Call it the 'Age of Meeting Ourselves Again'. * Aztec Call this the Time of the Sixth Sun. A time of transformation. Creation of new race. * Dogon Say that the spaceship of the visitors, the Nommo, will return in the form of a blue star * Pueblo Acknowledge it'll be the emergence into the Fifth World * Cherokee Their ancient calendar ends exactly at 2012 as does the Mayan calendar. * Tibetan Kalachakra teachings are prophesies left by Buddha predicting Coming of the Golden Age. * Egypt According to the Great Pyramid (stone calendar), present time cycle ends in year 2012 AD ============== [link to churchofcriticalthinking.org] |
planetbarb (OP) User ID: 577415 United States 01/21/2009 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets say planet X does exist.... Quoting: OpossumkingANd it supposedly did wipe us out 3600 year's ago. Hit and almost wiped us out. Why is there still a planet X? Wouldnt it have been smashed to piece's or us? Or at least pushed so far of it's course it would never hit us again. Thats my point..did it hit us or not? If so show me where it hit us last time.. A planet hits us..i dont care if it happen 2millon years ago..there would be proof of it. So.....? Never said it hit us. Have never read anyone who believes in Niburu saying it hit us. Comes within a certain distance and exerts and influence on the gravitational field stopping the planet in its rotation for a short while. During that time extreme electrical exchanges. When the earth rotates again the waters move and roll across the land. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 598012 United Kingdom 01/21/2009 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets say planet X does exist.... Quoting: OpossumkingANd it supposedly did wipe us out 3600 year's ago. Hit and almost wiped us out. Why is there still a planet X? Wouldnt it have been smashed to piece's or us? Or at least pushed so far of it's course it would never hit us again. Thats my point..did it hit us or not? If so show me where it hit us last time.. A planet hits us..i dont care if it happen 2millon years ago..there would be proof of it. So.....? it wouldnt need to hit to cause havoc.. block the sun and temperatures would plummit |
planetbarb (OP) User ID: 577415 United States 01/21/2009 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to churchofcriticalthinking.org] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 551743The sumerians told us that Nibiru wreaks havoc with the earth's axis every second orbital pass. (Every 4000 years or so). Basically, Earth's axis precessed from a right tilt forward and probably 180 to the left in around 10 or 20 hours due to the gravational "jolt" that takes place Sumerian Mathmatics 101 The Sumerian sexigesimal system of numbers works with changing factors that increase by 6 and 10. The formula equates as follows: 1, 10, 60, 600, 3,600, 36,000, 216,000 bla bla so on, etc. Every other preceding number is multiplied by 6 or 10. The number 5,000 is written as 12,320 in Sumerian. 3,600 600 60 10 1 ------------------------------ 1 2 3 2 0 ---- thus, 1x3600 + 2x600 + 3x60 + 2x10 + 0x1 = 5,000. Still hanging with me? If we look at the number 3,600 and write it down the Sumerian way, we see that the result is 2,160. 3,600 600 60 10 1 -------------------------------- N/A 3 6 0 0 ---- thus, 3x600 + 6x60 + 0x10 + 0x1 = 2160. ======== The number 2,160 is the twelfth fraction of a precessional cycle that takes 25,920 years. If we divide 25,776 by twelve we get 2,148 years. We now conclude that the bi-orbital timeline of P-X is 2,148 years, not 3,600 or 2,160 years. If we proceed to calculate in periods of 2,148 years starting at 10,983 BC, then add another degree and a half of 25,776 to that: { meaning 107.4 years } thus/and/or ------------------------------------- { A degree and a half of 25,920 is 108 years}, -gulp- we then come up with a result of... 2012 AD! ... ============== * Hopi Predict a 25yr period of purification followed by End of Fourth World and beginning of the Fifth. * Mayans Call it the 'end days' or the end of time as we know it. * Maoris Say that as the veils dissolve there will be a merging of the physical & spiritual worlds. * Zulu Believe that the whole world will be turned upside down. * Hindus Kali Yuga (end time of man). The Coming of Kalki & critical mass of Enlightened Ones. * Incas Call it the 'Age of Meeting Ourselves Again'. * Aztec Call this the Time of the Sixth Sun. A time of transformation. Creation of new race. * Dogon Say that the spaceship of the visitors, the Nommo, will return in the form of a blue star * Pueblo Acknowledge it'll be the emergence into the Fifth World * Cherokee Their ancient calendar ends exactly at 2012 as does the Mayan calendar. * Tibetan Kalachakra teachings are prophesies left by Buddha predicting Coming of the Golden Age. * Egypt According to the Great Pyramid (stone calendar), present time cycle ends in year 2012 AD ============== [link to churchofcriticalthinking.org] Thank you for posting this, especially the Sumerian info. I had not read of all this. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 376196 United States 01/21/2009 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This has to do with the planet, Nibiru, or Planet X. This could be the 3rd star of Sirius. Expect it to reappear again in about 700 days or so. Wouldn't be surprised. The signs are there. Two suns-2010 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 597818700 days = approximately 23 months Call that two years. Are you saying we would be able to see what looks like a second sun around 2010 then the closest part of the crossover could be 2012? That would make it about late January 2012. I have also read calculations of as late as summer 2013 as the closest point of the crossover. Need to mention that the affects of the planet will be felt before its closest point and this is supposed to include volcanoes tsunamis and freaky storms and electrical problems... I read that the second sun will appear not as bright as the sun but will look like a second sun. Not sure what it would look like at its closest approach. I read that the serpents tail (like a comet) will be seen as the planet is moving away from the earth... Do you believe every fairy tale you read? Connect the freakin' dots. Watch this. Go 4 min and 5 seconds into it. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 368888 United States 01/21/2009 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have survival information, records, anything valuable to you, by all means do print out a hard copy and laminate it and store it in a safe box which you can grab and take with you. Quoting: planetbarb2008 577415Print it out now and know where you have safeguarded it. I am talking about fishing hunting meat drying food storage, hygiene safety, food growing, water purifying, first aid and etc. Print out basic survival data and keep it. Laminating is a great idea! Don't forget to buy heirloom seeds. Also, might save all kinds of seeds and keep in your own personal family seed fault. If things get crazy, the world does have the huge seed vault, but that won't help your family. |