"but how did they know something big was coming to begin with in order to power down the satelites which would be affected"?
Only one answer to that xenus and that is that there is hardware up there that we don't know about.
Quoting: meras 633307
they know exactly what is going on...all this is too sensitive and strange to discuss here, so i'm not going to say anymore. seems to me you are on the right track tho meras.
Very unusual Dens.(p/cc) activity recorded in this short animation from 3-17-2009. In this video is, Ionosphere activity and 2 different views of Earths Magnetosphere
I'm still working on collecting data but this seems like very strange activity . Like the source originated around the Earth itself , No onset or nothing
Anonymous Coward User ID: 501247 Canada 3/17/2009 1:54 PM
If you are so afraid of NASA and so paranoid why do you even bother using their data then. They are not the only space agency in the world.
Quoting: Xenus 634817
I'm not afraid of NASA , I want answers
and to the BS Flag person , we are looking at some pretty significant activity and nobody really understands the outcome. You are not looking at the big picture here and either have a closed mind or you lack the intelligence to post or add anything to this thread, So move along
It's not the data I'm interested in but the how these sorts of events affect us and the planet.
For example, our magnetic field is supposed to protect us from all the high energy particles that happen to come our way, right? So why on Earth does it also ALLOW these particles in, on a regular basis? It just doesn't make any sense. This process is called magnetic reconnection.
Magnetic Reconnection -The process which causes magnetic fields of opposite polarity to merge together, releasing magnetic energy. Commonly observed in solar flares, and in the magnetotail of Earth.
You can tell this is happening by the Aurora activity. Apparently there are 2 types;
Proton precipitation into the cusp after lobe reconnection at the magnetopause and emissions produced by electron acceleration after reconnection.
Polar Cusp Region -The region of the magnetosphere where the distortions caused by the solar wind create a funnel-like zone that reaches deep into Earth's polar magnetic field, allowing low-energy solar wind particles to reach the upper atmosphere.
So, now our shield has 2 ways in, for high energy particles and low.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 509737 United States 3/17/2009 2:39 PM
Nahle, Nasif. 17 December 2008. Didactic Article: Anomalies on the Earth's Ionosphere and Magnetosphere. Biology Cabinet. [link to www.biocab.org]
DANCING WITH THE STARS
Last Tuesday, we received a memorandum from NASA in which solar physicists informed us of the discovery of shrinkage to "extraordinarily low levels" of the Earth’s transitional layer of terrestrial atmosphere and the deep space where the radiation, emitted by the Sun, hits directly onto our atmosphere.
The anomaly had been observed previously, but not with the magnitude now observed.
The altitude and thickness of the ionosphere depends upon the ultraviolet radiation incoming from the Sun, which affects the upper limits of the atmospheric layer in question; hence, my logical deduction was that the amount of ultraviolet radiation incoming from the Sun has diminished considerably. Immediately, I associated the anomaly with the lassitude of the Sun whilst entering its activity cycle-24, having not yet settled down, when it should have done so more than a year ago.
Hardly had I begun to unravel the note on the ionosphere shrinkage, when I received another official NASA note, on the discovery of a great breach in the Earth magnetic field. The Earth's magnetic field is "a bubble of magnetism that surrounds Earth" which shields us from the energetic particles of the solar wind (plasma).
NASA’s scientists have said that they have never observed so great a failure or breach in the magnetosphere caused by a fluctuation of a solar magnetosphere pointing North. The solar magnetic field is fluctuating, or changing, and the event is affecting all the bodies of the Solar System, Earth amongst them.
I correlated the terrestrial magnetic fluctuation to the loss of power of photons carrying electromagnetic force arriving from the Sun and the interstellar space. I had thought the same some days ago, when I learned about a “raw” hydrogen ejection from the western limb of the solar disc.
No doubt, this kind of phenomena has happened before throughout the existence of the Solar System… The difference is that we now have devices for assessing the magnitude of the problem.
The short term consequences are that our winters will be colder, probably glacial, and extended. It is as if we had left the house door open at the height of a winter storm. Heat is escaping from the Earth’s atmosphere to outer space at an accelerated rate.
We do not know what effects those anomalies will have on the living beings on Earth. One thing is certain, their lives will be affected in one form or another, although we do not know to what degree they will be disturbed. I can only assume it will be a challenge for the individuals to adapt.
We do not have automobiles and factories working on the Sun; consequently, both phenomena do not depend on us, or carbon dioxide, or Bush, or Obama, or any government on Earth… these are very normal recurring changes in the observable Universe.
Nasif Nahle
Owner
Anonymous Coward User ID: 501247 Canada 3/17/2009 2:48 PM
If you are so afraid of NASA and so paranoid why do you even bother using their data then. They are not the only space agency in the world.
I'm not afraid of NASA , I want answers
and to the BS Flag person , we are looking at some pretty significant activity and nobody really understands the outcome. You are not looking at the big picture here and either have a closed mind or you lack the intelligence to post or add anything to this thread, So move along
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 621485
hey, look retard.
just because you found the stupid mag sim site means nothing.
idiot newbs like yourself come along all the time in here claiming to know that something is happening to the magnetosphere, yet you have never even seen a solar flare impact or even a large coronal stream hit.
all you little twats sit here foaming about that stupid japanese sim, when you have no clue what you are even looking at
there have been many hundred page long threads in glp over the years about the same thing. that stupid nict sim.
are the the same asshole that keeps them going year after year in hopes of snaring some new sheeples?
I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again, you are going to SHIT yourself when something actually happens.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 621485 United States 3/17/2009 3:06 PM
There is talk of giving H-1B aliens and undocumented Illegals residency status in an effort to shore up the housing market and bring new blood on to the scene
Not at all, it means if this process is natural, that the Earth and everything on it is meant to be interacting with these particles that find their way inside. The shield does stop most of these coming through so what does get through is nothing compared to if we didn't have our shield.
Also just found this, very... conspiracy worthy;
"Space physicists have known for decades that energetic particles can be affected by low-frequency, electromagnetic plasma waves, and by radio waves beamed into space from ground-based transmitters."
Ground based transmitters like HAARP? TV stations? How do these radio waves and low frequency waves affect the particles though?
These particles can be dangerous I just found out...
"Although the atmosphere above an aircraft provides a measure of protection from cosmic rays and solar energetic particles that enter the magnetosphere, there is still concern for flights on polar routes during major solar particle events. Intense solar flares release high-energy particles that can be as dangerous to humans as the low-energy radiation from nuclear blasts."
UNtypical USer User ID: 635889 United States 3/17/2009 3:20 PM
hey, look retard.
just because you found the stupid mag sim site means nothing. idiot newbs like yourself come along all the time in here claiming to know that something is happening to the magnetosphere, yet you have never even seen a solar flare impact or even a large coronal stream hit.
all you little twats sit here foaming about that stupid japanese sim, when you have no clue what you are even looking at
there have been many hundred page long threads in glp over the years about the same thing. that stupid nict sim.
are the the same asshole that keeps them going year after year in hopes of snaring some new sheeples?
I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again, you are going to SHIT yourself when something actually happens.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501247
Nope not at all
I have been watching this crap for years and not just at the Nict Site either , And starting around January something changed and it has not been the same since.And that is when I started to document the activity . I have used various simulators in the animations and not just from the Nict site.
I have been around here for years just not a registered or paying member, I'm not trying to snare any sheeples. My documenting came after the SGR Blast in January 2009 when this thread began and if you look at some of the videos I have made you would see that that is when I started to document the activity. And actually I do have a pretty good idea of what I'm looking at
Anonymous Coward User ID: 634817 Australia 3/17/2009 3:23 PM
hey, look retard.
just because you found the stupid mag sim site means nothing.
idiot newbs like yourself come along all the time in here claiming to know that something is happening to the magnetosphere, yet you have never even seen a solar flare impact or even a large coronal stream hit.
all you little twats sit here foaming about that stupid japanese sim, when you have no clue what you are even looking at
there have been many hundred page long threads in glp over the years about the same thing. that stupid nict sim.
are the the same asshole that keeps them going year after year in hopes of snaring some new sheeples?
I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again, you are going to SHIT yourself when something actually happens.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501247
You seem to be so stupid you have missed the point entirely. The point was not "WOW LOOK AT THE MAGNETOSPHERE, WTF IS GOING ON WITH IT DURING A SOLAR MAXIMUM!!11"
The point being that it is the solar minimum NO ACTIVITY IS COMING FROM THE GODDAMN SUN (bolded and capped just for you so you could not possibly miss it) and yet our shield is getting hit hard by something.
No one is here claiming anything except sharing data and information, trying to figure out what is happening.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 631053 United States 3/17/2009 3:26 PM
hey, look retard.
just because you found the stupid mag sim site means nothing.
idiot newbs like yourself come along all the time in here claiming to know that something is happening to the magnetosphere, yet you have never even seen a solar flare impact or even a large coronal stream hit.
all you little twats sit here foaming about that stupid japanese sim, when you have no clue what you are even looking at
there have been many hundred page long threads in glp over the years about the same thing. that stupid nict sim.
are the the same asshole that keeps them going year after year in hopes of snaring some new sheeples?
I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again, you are going to SHIT yourself when something actually happens.
You seem to be so stupid you have missed the point entirely. The point was not "WOW LOOK AT THE MAGNETOSPHERE, WTF IS GOING ON WITH IT DURING A SOLAR MAXIMUM!!11"
The point being that it is the solar minimum NO ACTIVITY IS COMING FROM THE GODDAMN SUN (bolded and capped just for you so you could not possibly miss it) and yet our shield is getting hit hard by something.
No one is here claiming anything except sharing data and information, trying to figure out what is happening.
I've been checking Sun and magnetic data since about 2001, I can certainly tell you it was a lot more entertaining when the sun was active, with flares flaring and CMEs ejecting like no tomorrow. And as the activity waned so did my interest. But like AC 621485 I too decided to start checking back this year, especially after that massive GRB we got hit with mulitple times which I think was the pre-cursor for our fucked up weather at the time. Especially our fires and extreme hot weather. But it might be all a coincidence, right?
You seem to be so stupid you have missed the point entirely. The point was not "WOW LOOK AT THE MAGNETOSPHERE, WTF IS GOING ON WITH IT DURING A SOLAR MAXIMUM!!11"
The point being that it is the solar minimum NO ACTIVITY IS COMING FROM THE GODDAMN SUN (bolded and capped just for you so you could not possibly miss it) and yet our shield is getting hit hard by something.
No one is here claiming anything except sharing data and information, trying to figure out what is happening.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 634817
Yes thank 634817
Anonymous Coward User ID: 501247 Canada 3/17/2009 3:35 PM
hey, look retard.
just because you found the stupid mag sim site means nothing.
idiot newbs like yourself come along all the time in here claiming to know that something is happening to the magnetosphere, yet you have never even seen a solar flare impact or even a large coronal stream hit.
all you little twats sit here foaming about that stupid japanese sim, when you have no clue what you are even looking at
there have been many hundred page long threads in glp over the years about the same thing. that stupid nict sim.
are the the same asshole that keeps them going year after year in hopes of snaring some new sheeples?
I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again, you are going to SHIT yourself when something actually happens.
You seem to be so stupid you have missed the point entirely. The point was not "WOW LOOK AT THE MAGNETOSPHERE, WTF IS GOING ON WITH IT DURING A SOLAR MAXIMUM!!11"
The point being that it is the solar minimum NO ACTIVITY IS COMING FROM THE GODDAMN SUN (bolded and capped just for you so you could not possibly miss it) and yet our shield is getting hit hard by something.
No one is here claiming anything except sharing data and information, trying to figure out what is happening.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 634817
solar minimum does not mean there is ZERO activity
there are always coronal holes
our shield has not been hit hard by anything in 2+ years
just wait until the first sunspots of the new cycle start popping up and a few C flares start showing up. There will be a flood of KILL SHOT threads, as usual.
you aint seen NOTHING yet
Anonymous Coward User ID: 621485 United States 3/17/2009 3:37 PM
I've been checking Sun and magnetic data since about 2001, I can certainly tell you it was a lot more entertaining when the sun was active, with flares flaring and CMEs ejecting like no tomorrow. And as the activity waned so did my interest. But like AC 621485 I too decided to start checking back this year, especially after that massive GRB we got hit with mulitple times which I think was the pre-cursor for our fucked up weather at the time. Especially our fires and extreme hot weather. But it might be all a coincidence, right?
"New observations by IMAGE reveal that a layer in the Earth's outer atmosphere acts like a heat shield by absorbing energy from solar storms and reducing their ability to heat the lower atmosphere. However, it imposes a heavy toll for its services by creating a billion-degree cloud of electrified gas, or plasma, that surrounds the planet."
These are not new now, but NASA takes an awfully long time releasing any public results that they come up with. After a mission is declared a success and all the data is collected, evaluated, sifted through and it could take years for the information to make it to the public.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 621485 United States 3/17/2009 3:43 PM
solar minimum does not mean there is ZERO activity
there are always coronal holes
our shield has not been hit hard by anything in 2+ years
just wait until the first sunspots of the new cycle start popping up and a few C flares start showing up. There will be a flood of KILL SHOT threads, as usual.
you aint seen NOTHING yet
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501247
Yes there is always coronal holes , But much of the activity we have documented on this thread has come at times when there has been no Earth Facing Coronal Holes , Making it unexplained activity .
And you are wrong if you do not think we have been hit by anything hard in 2 years .
The SGR Blast in January was so powerful that it Ionized parts of the atmosphere and may of had a hand in Disrupting the Polar Vortex and Amping up the Sudden Stratospheric Warming Event that we had in January
The next solar cycle was meant to start last year but it did not as expected. This year spaceweather.com even falsely reported a sunspot, perhaps due to the strangess of not having one pop up yet? When IS the next cycle going to start? You bring up a great point AC 501247.
C class? Big deal, I like watching the X class flare out, so powerful, so pretty.
Phasesphere Strategic Air Command User ID: 623994 United States 3/17/2009 3:56 PM
If you are so afraid of NASA and so paranoid why do you even bother using their data then. They are not the only space agency in the world.
I'm not afraid of NASA , I want answers
and to the BS Flag person , we are looking at some pretty significant activity and nobody really understands the outcome. You are not looking at the big picture here and either have a closed mind or you lack the intelligence to post or add anything to this thread, So move along
hey, look retard.
just because you found the stupid mag sim site means nothing.
idiot newbs like yourself come along all the time in here claiming to know that something is happening to the magnetosphere, yet you have never even seen a solar flare impact or even a large coronal stream hit.
all you little twats sit here foaming about that stupid japanese sim, when you have no clue what you are even looking at
there have been many hundred page long threads in glp over the years about the same thing. that stupid nict sim.
are the the same asshole that keeps them going year after year in hopes of snaring some new sheeples?
I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again, you are going to SHIT yourself when something actually happens.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501247
haha fool
Anonymous Coward User ID: 501247 Canada 3/17/2009 4:12 PM
..... much of the activity we have documented on this thread has come at times when there has been no Earth Facing Coronal Holes , Making it unexplained activity .
And you are wrong if you do not think we have been hit by anything hard in 2 years .
The SGR Blast in January was so powerful that it Ionized parts of the atmosphere and may of had a hand in Disrupting the Polar Vortex and Amping up the Sudden Stratospheric Warming Event that we had in January
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 621485
bullshit - all of it
I have planted about a thousand bsflags in here since you started this crapper, every time you bump this stupid thread there has been a solar breeze pass by and you jump all over the stupid nict sim - LOOK AT THIS!!!!!!!!
Like clockwork.
you are the same retard that has been making these identically ridiculous threads since glp started, aren't you?
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