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Holy Shit! LOOK at the Magnetosphere!!

 
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yah, we were due to get blasted again. they are much shorter in duration now. moving right along.....
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did you notice , the weaker the magnetosphere become and the shorter the hits. This isnt random , someone is doing this.
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yah, we were due to get blasted again. they are much shorter in duration now. moving right along.....


did you notice , the weaker the magnetosphere become and the shorter the hits. This isnt random , someone is doing this.
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...to achieve what? explain more please...
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3-23-2009 to 3-24-2009

The Coronal Hole has since passed and now gives us the perfect opportunity to study Interplanatary and Intragalactic Excited Energy Particles streaming in and reacting to the Null area that is inbetween Coronal Holes , The Sun Remains in a very quiet Configuration allowing more interstellar medium to enter our system. Energetic events can cause a charge to these Neutral Particles and they can energize the Magnetosphere when activity is either Low or Null. This Cosmic Weather has been on the increase as our Sun continues in an exteneded Solar Minimal , Cosmic Winds have slowed and the Heliosphere has shrunk in its protective size.This slowing belt activity and the lack of Magnetic activity on the Sun itself has presented a chance to study the enhancement of Neutral Particles and their effects on Earth and its Magnetic Fields. The activity allows to some extent the rapid change of deep fields within the Earth itself . Closely tying in Sudden Volcanic instability and Tectonic movement on the planet .Starting back in January of this year activity changed and there has been Sudden change in the fields and under any number of Configurations in the last month .We have had the 4 groups ,Planar,Spherical,Elliptical & Empirical and at times extended periods of mixed hybrids with characteristic traits of all 4 with 2 different tail related events

This movie starts before the data disruption and then restarts as data resumes on the 23rd and takes us through activity on the 24th from the CCCMC BATSRUS

This day also afforded us to view an open field and at times uniquely closed ones and irregular activity like that before 19:00 on 3-24-2009, The dominant Configuration of the Magnetosphere over the last 2 days has been in the Spherical Cofiguration

Data Outage at CCMC , @ 15:07 ON 3-23-2009 ~ This breech voids the data between 15:07 & 21:32 on the 23rd of March. The outage of 7 hours makes it near impossible to create an accurate simulation until the Data resumed for the CCMC BATSRUS Models @ 21:32 on 3-23-2009

Though we were not supposed to have any serious Geo Magnetic Activity the Magnetometers were able to demonstrate the opposite and showed Component Variations at a number of reporting stations.




The Offical Outlook
3-day Solar-Geophysical Forecast issued Mar 23 22:00 UTC

Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to be very low.

Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to be predominantly quiet for the next three days (24-26 March).
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yah, we were due to get blasted again. they are much shorter in duration now. moving right along.....


did you notice , the weaker the magnetosphere become and the shorter the hits. This isnt random , someone is doing this.


...to achieve what? explain more please...
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save us :)
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yah, we were due to get blasted again. they are much shorter in duration now. moving right along.....


did you notice , the weaker the magnetosphere become and the shorter the hits. This isnt random , someone is doing this.


...to achieve what? explain more please...


save us :)
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Hello...Hello..
bump
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

A few spikes, temp is almost off the scale. Solar wind is now almost 500m/s, which is in the highest range of charts. (highest ever recorded was about 600-700 I think) And yet the sun is sleeping. Sol-ar wind is speeding up but the sun isn't responsible? Is that even possible? Sol-ar winds usually only ramp up during a sol-ar storm/flares/CME event.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Stereo A seems useless, constant data black outs and STEREO A and B have different values on their axis for some reason.

The field plots usually look like that during a CME or flare as it hits us, yet we have none. I think by now we can agree all agree without any doubt that *something* is hitting us constantly, and it's not Sol. If the duration between hits is decreasing then logically we're getting closer to it or the activity is just happening faster and faster.

Energized particles don't just randomly float around space, they are energized by something, like being ejected out of the sun, or bursting out of a black hole via jets or the other space phenomena.
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"Closely tying in Sudden Volcanic instability and Tectonic movement on the planet."

Really I didn't notice that at all! ^_~

Is it just me or did those Bartus graphs need to change their scales in order to accomodate the recorded data? I haven't seen that been done before as usually graphs have scales which go to both extremes and higher.
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The bgs recently changed the sensitivity on the very long period charts.
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yah, we were due to get blasted again. they are much shorter in duration now. moving right along.....


did you notice , the weaker the magnetosphere become and the shorter the hits. This isnt random , someone is doing this.
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i know. been watching it for 3 months. didn't take long to see it was systematic.
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yah, we were due to get blasted again. they are much shorter in duration now. moving right along.....


did you notice , the weaker the magnetosphere become and the shorter the hits. This isnt random , someone is doing this.


...to achieve what? explain more please...
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sorry, i'd rather not, tried to on this thread before, but it just brings the no-it-alls down on me. i think it's all going to become apparent anyway pretty soon.
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yah, we were due to get blasted again. they are much shorter in duration now. moving right along.....


did you notice , the weaker the magnetosphere become and the shorter the hits. This isnt random , someone is doing this.


...to achieve what? explain more please...
sorry, i'd rather not, tried to on this thread before, but it just brings the no-it-alls down on me. i think it's all going to become apparent anyway pretty soon.
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I understand, though liked very much your answer. I agree we will soon see more anyway. Thanks for your input...
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yah, we were due to get blasted again. they are much shorter in duration now. moving right along.....


did you notice , the weaker the magnetosphere become and the shorter the hits. This isnt random , someone is doing this.


...to achieve what? explain more please...
sorry, i'd rather not, tried to on this thread before, but it just brings the no-it-alls down on me. i think it's all going to become apparent anyway pretty soon.


I understand, though liked very much your answer. I agree we will soon see more anyway. Thanks for your input...
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yes , lets just say that the bad guys have been here all along and this is the end , the sun will shine in a few days
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The Emerging Sunspot Cycle 24 and a Weakening Magnetic Field
What does this mean for our planet and species?




Alex Ansary

February 25, 2009

,Introduction]-

If you were thinking that the only things we have to be concerned about include wars, famines, and economic crashes, think again.

New scientific discoveries are indicating that this next solar flare cycle could potentially be powerful enough to distrupt our planet's entire electric grid. In this report, I will document the number of changes taking place with our magnetic field, the sun and our solar system while expaining some of the concerns that today's leading scientists have voiced. I will also be examining how humankind may also be affected energically.

What is Electromagnetic Pollution?

TV, cell phone towers, power lines, and house appliances—while they make lives more convenient for some, they also contribute to polluting our electromagnetic atmosphere. A growing number of scientists, health care professionals, and concerned citizens argue that these invisible frequencies are responsible for a host of various health problems. Meanwhile, the largest polluter has gone unnoticed: the sun. And it's about to fire up again.

Our Plant's Magnetic Field

The magnetosphere is a bubble of magnetism that surrounds Earth and protects us from solar wind. Fortunately, our planet's magnetic field diverts most particles into a circular path around the Earth. Like weather patterns found on Earth, solar wind patterns can change rapidly.

Luckily, our planet's magnetosphere quickly responds to the threat and absorbs the impact, wiggling and jiggling in the process. Geophysicists call this reaction a geomagnetic storm, but because of how it disrupts the Earth's magnetic field, it could also be called electromagnetic pollution. This is when we see the Aurora Borealis in our night skys.

But strange things are happening in both outer and inner space

The Earth's magnetic field has been decreasing. This decrease actually began 2000 years ago, but the rate of decrease suddenly became much more rapid 500 years ago. Now, in the last 20 years or so, the magnetic field has become erratic. Aeronautical maps of the world — which are used to allow airplanes to land using automatic pilot systems — have had to be revised worldwide in order for the automatic pilot systems to work..

Late last year, the Arctic ice cap on the exact spot of the North Pole completely melted for the first time in known history. Green Peace reported that, relative to the winter ice pattern, the cap had previously melted over 300 miles toward the pole, and that late last year both military and civilian ships were able to actually pass directly over the North Pole. It was water. Until now, as far as we know, there has never been a time where the ice was less than ten feet thick. In contrast, the South Pole has an ice cap that is about three miles deep, and yet huge pieces of ice continue to break off and melt.

There is a now a Giant Breach in the Earth's Magnetic Field.

NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. When this happens, solar wind can flow in through the opening to "load up" the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms. Exploring the mystery is a key goal of the THEMIS mission, launched in February 2007.

The big discovery came on June 3, 2007, when the five probes serendipitously flew through the breach just as it was opening. Onboard sensors recorded a torrent of solar wind particles streaming into the magnetosphere, signaling an event of unexpected size and importance. But the breach itself is not the biggest surprise. Researchers are even more amazed and baffled at the unexpected way it forms, overturning long-held ideas of space physics

"At first I didn't believe it," says THEMIS project scientist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "This finding fundamentally alters our understanding of the solar wind-magnetosphere interaction." "The opening was huge—four times wider than Earth itself," says Wenhui Li, a space physicist at the University of New Hampshire who has been analyzing the data. Li's colleague Jimmy Raeder, also of New Hampshire, says "1027 particles per second were flowing into the magnetosphere—that's a 1 followed by 27 zeros. This kind of influx is an order of magnitude greater than what we thought was possible."

Scientists Surprised

The size of the breach shocked researchers. "We've seen things like this before," says Li's colleague Jimmy Raeder, "but never on such a large scale. The entire day-side of the magnetosphere was open to the solar wind.

This is changing our understanding of the universe. Space physicists have long believed that holes in Earth's magnetosphere open only in response to solar magnetic fields that point south. The great breach of June 2007, however, opened in response to a solar magnetic field that pointed north.

To the lay person, this may sound like a quibble, but to a space physicist, it is almost seismic. It means that something is happening out there that they didn't predict and that is what has them frightened.

Unexpected Shield Drop

Here is where the scientific understanding our how magnetic field is changing: What is understood today in the scientific community is that the solar wind presses against the Earth's magnetosphere almost directly above the equator where our planet's magnetic field points north. Scientists previously believed that if a bundle of solar magnetism came along, and points north, too, the two fields should reinforce one another strengthening Earth's magnetic defenses and slamming the door shut on the solar wind. In the language of space physics, a north-pointing solar magnetic field is called a "northern IMF" and it is synonymous with shields up.

The big suprise is that when a northern IMF came along, the shields went down. This is completely overturning many scientists understanding of things. As Researchers investigated the tear in the magnetic field, they discovered that twenty times more solar wind passed into the Earth's protective shield when the magnetic fields were aligned. Northern IMF events don't actually trigger geomagnetic storms, notes Raeder, but they do set the stage for storms by loading the magnetosphere with plasma. A loaded magnetosphere is primed for auroras, power outages, and other disturbances that can result when a CME (coronal mass ejection) hits.

This means the impact of sloar flares are twenty times as strong with the magnetic lines are aligned. Earth's and the sun's magnetic fields will be in sync at the solar cycle's peak, expected in 2012. This will cause an influx of solar particles. What the scientists didn’t discuss is the impact on the human bioelectrical system.

The earth's magnetic field impacts climate

The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published in January 2009 that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.

"Our results show a strong correlation between the strength of the earth's magnetic field and the amount of precipitation in the tropics," one of the two Danish geophysicists behind the study, Mads Faurschou Knudsen of the geology department at Aarhus University in western Denmark, told the Videnskab journal.

The results of the study, which has also been published in US scientific journal Geology, lend support to a controversial theory published a decade ago by Danish astrophysicist Henrik Svensmark, who claimed the climate was highly influenced by galactic cosmic ray (GCR) particles penetrating the earth's atmosphere.

What Drives Earth's Magnetic Field?

When an electric current passes through a metal wire, a magnetic field forms around that wire Likewise, a wire passing through a magnetic field creates an electric current within the wire. This is the basic principle that allows electric motors and generators to operate.

In the Earth, the liquid metal that makes up the outer core passes through a magnetic field, which causes an electric current to flow within the liquid metal. The electric current, in turn, creates its own magnetic field—one that is stronger than the field that created it in the first place.

As liquid metal passes through the stronger field, more current flows, which increases the field still further. This self-sustaining loop is known as the geomagnetic dynamo. Material from the liquid outer core slowly "freezes" onto the inner core, releasing heat as it does so. (High pressures within the Earth cause material to freeze at high temperatures.) This heat drives convection cells within the liquid core, which keeps the liquid metal moving through the magnetic field.

Energy is needed to keep the dynamo running. This energy comes from the release of heat from the surface of the solid inner core. Our planet's spinning motion causes the moving liquid metal to spiral, in a way similar to how it affects weather systems on the Earth's surface. These spiraling eddies allow separate magnetic fields to align and combine forces.

Without the effects caused by the spinning Earth, the magnetic fields generated within the liquid core would cancel one another out and result in no distinct north or south magnetic poles.

Rapid changes in the churning movement of Earth's liquid outer core are weakening the magnetic field in some regions of the planet's surface, a new study says

"What is so surprising is that rapid, almost sudden, changes take place in the Earth's magnetic field," said study co-author Nils Olsen, a geophysicist at the Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen.

The findings suggest similarly quick changes are simultaneously occurring in the liquid metal, 1,900 miles (3,000 kilometers) below the surface, he said. Fluctuations in the magnetic field have occurred in several far-flung regions of Earth, the researchers found.

The changes "may suggest the possibility of an upcoming reversal of the geomagnetic field," said study co-author Mioara Mandea, a scientist at the German Research Centre for Geosciences in Potsdam. Earth's magnetic field has reversed hundreds of times over the past billion years, and the process could take thousands of years to complete.

The decline in the magnetic field also is opening Earth's upper atmosphere to intense charged particle radiation, scientists say.


Cosmic Rays are slamming Earth

An international team of researchers has discovered a puzzling surplus of high-energy electrons bombarding Earth from space. The source of these cosmic rays is unknown, but it must be close to the solar system and it could be made of dark matter. Their results are being reported in the Nov. 20th issue of the journal Nature.

"This is a big discovery," says co-author John Wefel of Louisiana State University. "It's the first time we've seen a discrete source of accelerated cosmic rays standing out from the general galactic background." To study the most powerful and interesting cosmic rays, Wefel and colleagues have spent the last eight years flying a series of balloons through the stratosphere over Antarctica.

Their NASA-funded cosmic ray detector found an significant surplus of high-energy electrons. "The source of these exotic electrons must be relatively close to the solar system—no more than a kiloparsec away," says co-author Jim Adams of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center. Galactic cosmic rays are subatomic particles accelerated to almost light speed by distant supernova explosions and other violent events. They swarm through the Milky Way, forming a haze of high energy particles that enter the solar system from all directions.

Cosmic rays consist mostly of protons and heavier atomic nuclei with a dash of electrons and photons spicing the mix. Why must the source be nearby? Adams explains: "High-energy electrons lose energy rapidly as they fly through the galaxy.

They give up energy in two main ways: (1) when they collide with lower-energy photons, a process called inverse Compton scattering, and (2) when they radiate away some of their energy by spiraling through the galaxy's magnetic field." High-energy electrons are therefore local but the researches cannot pinpoint the source in the sky.

According to the research, this source would need to be within about 3,000 light years of the sun. It could be an exotic object such as a pulsar, mini-quasar, supernova remnant or an intermediate mass black hole..



The Sun

The sun is a massive electromagnetic broadcaster which floods the planets of the solar system with heat, light, UV radiation, and electrically charged particles. The Sun itself has a magnetic field, and that magnetic field creates an "egg" around the Solar System that is known as the "heliosphere." The heliosphere is shaped like a teardrop, with the long, thin end of the drop pointing away from the direction in which we're traveling.

The Sun is the center of our Solar System, and all life that is on this Earth came from the Sun. If there were no Sun, we would not be alive. This is simply scientific fact. And so any changes that occur in or on the Sun will eventually affect every person alive. The solar activity during this last sunspot cycle was greater than anything ever seen before.

The Sun's magnetic field has changed in the last 100 years

One recent study by Dr. Mike Lockwood from Rutherford Appleton National Laboratories in California has been investigating the Sun activity for the last hundred years. He reports that since 1901 the overall magnetic field of the Sun has become stronger by 230 percent. Scientists do not understand what that means for us.

Some of the sunspot activity in this last cycle was greater than anything ever recorded before in history. But scientists claim that they don't understand what means either. "Obviously, the sun is Earth's life blood," said Richard Fisher, director of the Heliophysics division at NASA. "To mitigate possible public safety issues, it is vital that we better understand extreme space weather events caused by the sun's activity."

According to NASA, it is beginning another 11-year cycle of activity

The Sun flips its Magnetic Poles every eleven years. Considering that the Sun is to blame for some unfavorable climate changes on the Earth, the coming decade could spell more trouble for our planet. The years ahead could be intense.

Raeder explains: "We're entering Solar Cycle 24. For reasons not fully understood, CMEs in even-numbered solar cycles (like 24) tend to hit Earth with a leading edge that is magnetized north. Such a CME (coronal mass ejection) should open a breach and load the magnetosphere with plasma just before the storm gets underway. It's the perfect sequence for a really big event."

Every 10–11 years, the number of sunspots found on our closest star rise from 0 (as it is currently in 2008) to a high of over 400. While the sunspots themselves don't affect Earth, the solar flares and other disturbances emanating from our sun during increased sunspot activity result in an increased number of particles (electrons and protons) and harmful light radiation (ultraviolet and x-rays), known as solar wind. If it weren't for Earth's protective magnetic field and atmosphere, this bombardment of particles would burn us to a crisp.

Sunspot Cycle 24 peaking around 2012 could be one of the strongest in centuries

The next sunspot cycle will be 30-50% stronger than the last one and begin as much as a year late, according to a breakthrough forecast using a computer model of solar dynamics developed by scientists at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). Predicting the Sun's cycles accurately, years in advance, will help societies plan for active bouts of solar storms, which can slow satellite orbits, disrupt communications, and bring down power systems.

The scientists have confidence in the forecast because, in a series of test runs, the newly developed model simulated the strength of the past eight solar cycles with more than 98% accuracy. The forecasts are generated, in part, by tracking the subsurface movements of the sunspot remnants of the previous two solar cycles. The team is publishing its forecast in the current issue of Geophysical Research Letters.

Solar Cycle 25 peaking around 2022 could be one of the weakest in centuries

The Great Conveyor Belt is a massive circulating current of fire (hot plasma) within the Sun. It has two branches, north and south, each taking about 40 years to perform one complete circuit. Researchers believe the turning of the belt controls the sunspot cycle, and that's why the slowdown is important.

"Normally, the conveyor belt moves about 1 meter per second—walking pace," says Hathaway. "That's how it has been since the late 19th century." In recent years, however, the belt has decelerated to 0.75 m/s in the north and 0.35 m/s in the south. "We've never seen speeds so low."

According to theory and observation, the speed of the belt foretells the intensity of sunspot activity ~20 years in the future. A slow belt means lower solar activity; a fast belt means stronger activity. "The slowdown we see now means that Solar Cycle 25, peaking around the year 2022, could be one of the weakest in centuries," says Hathaway.

History of measuring solar flare activity

The first measuring instruments made their appearance 440 years ago. They showed that our nearest star treats the Earth to more than just solar eclipses. Sunspots, solar flares, faculae and other phenomena affect everything on the Earth: from atmospheric events to human behavior. These phenomena are known collectively as solar activity. This activity, expressing itself through bursts of solar radiation, magnetic storms or fiery flares, can vary in intensity, from very low to very strong. It is the storms that pose the greatest danger to civilization.

History of solar activity affecting the grid

On August 28, 1859, polar lights glowed and shimmered all over the American continent as darkness fell. Many people thought their city was aflame. The instruments used to record this magnetic fluctuation across the world went off their scales. Telegraph systems malfunctioned, hit by a massive surge in voltage. It was perhaps the worst in the past 200 years and with the advent of modern power grids and satellites, much more is at risk.

This was an actual solar storm. Its results for humankind were small, because civilization had not yet entered a hi-tech phase of development. Had something similar happen in our nuclear space age, destruction would have been catastrophic. Meanwhile, according to scientific data, storms of such size occur relatively seldom: once in five centuries. But events with half the intensity happen every 50 years.

The last one took place on November 13, 1960 and disturbed the Earth's geomagnetic fields, upsetting the operation of radio stations.

How this could impact our grid today

Now our dependence on radio electronic devices is so immense that increased solar activity could disable life-support systems all over the world, and not only on the surface. Poor space weather makes all orbital systems malfunction. A heavy solar storm can cause disruption to space-based navigation systems.

NASA is now sounding an alarm because our continent is so close to the northern magnetic pole and is the most vulnerable to solar activity. A study by the MetaTech Corporation revealed that an impact similar to that of 1859 would incapacitate the entire electricity grid in North America. Even the relatively weak magnetic storm of 1989, provoked by solar activity, caused an accident at a Canadian hydro-electric power plant that left 6 million people in the U.S. and Canada without electric power for nine hours.


A new study from the National Academy of Sciences also outlines grim possibilities on Earth for a worst-case scenario solar storm. Modern power grids are so interconnected that a big space storm — the type expected to occur about once a century — could cause a cascade of failures that would sweep across the United States, cutting power to 130 million people or more in this country alone, the new report concludes. Such widespread power outages, though expected to be a rare possibility, would affect other vital systems.

"Impacts would be felt on interdependent infrastructures with, for example, potable water distribution affected within several hours; perishable foods and medications lost in 12-24 hours; immediate or eventual loss of heating/air conditioning, sewage disposal, phone service, transportation, fuel resupply and so on," the report states.

Outages could take months to fix, the researchers say. Banks might close, and trade with other countries might halt. "Emergency services would be strained, and command and control might be lost," write the researchers, led by Daniel Baker, director of the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Colorado in Boulder.

Could cycles of war and peace be tied to cycles of the sun?

Some researchers claim that geomagnetic storms affect brain waves and hormone levels, causing a number of different reactions, predominately in males. While a few women may also experience changes during these storms, they generally seem less affected by the sun's behavior. Reacting to changing hormone levels, some men may become increasingly irritable and aggressive, while others may instead become more creative.

An increase in solar activity is found to increase psychotic episodes in individuals who already suffer from unstable psychological states. While we might relate such behavior to a full moon, in 1963, Dr. Robert Becker and his colleague, Dr.Freedman, demonstrated that solar changes also lead to a noticeable increase in psychotic activity. Yet these reactions are not simply isolated to a few particularly sensitive or unlucky individuals.

Evidence indicates that wars and international conflicts most often break out when sunspots are rapidly forming or rapidly decaying, as these are times when there are more intense geomagnetic storms. In addition, this increase in solar activity also correlates to periods of more accidents and illness, as well as an increase of crimes and murders. The entire biosphere is affected by this electromagnetic pollution, and human behavior seems to react accordingly.

Not all geomagnetic storms are disruptive. But over time, these extremes in solar activity may also affect periods of earthly conflict. The data on cycles of war and peace extend back at least 2,500 years. (Some believe that they may be traced even further, but the records are not as reliable.) Although some may argue that it seems as if there is always war somewhere, records show that periods of conflict increase and decrease in nearly regular cycles.

Scientific Investigations into solar activity and a possible effect on society

As early as 1915, some scientists were beginning to recognize connections between solar activity and human behavior. This work began with Russian scientist Alexander Chizhevsky, who observed that mass changes in human behavior correlated to sunspot cycles.

In the 1930s, Professor Raymond Wheeler, a historian at the University of Kansas, took this observation one step further. His research afforded numerical rankings to the severity of individual battles correlating to solar cycles. His data was statistically analyzed by Edward Dewey, who validated the existence of these war cycles. Yet he was unable to make a definite connection with sunspot cycles because the data at that time was insufficient. In the 1980s, with a more detailed analysis of Wheeler's data, the connection became clear.

Upon close examination of the data, It appears that we are beginning to discover a pattern to emerge where wars are most likely to start in key points of the sunspot cycle

This is when the geomagnetic activity is changing most rapidly on the upsurge of solar activity, or the downward part of the cycle, when sunspots are rapidly diminishing. In addition we can also see how this affects physiological mechanisms, such as altered brain rhythms and abnormal hormonal levels.

In other words, wars could be a kind of mass psychosis. When we see the connection to physical mechanisms (electromagnetic pollution), this gives us some predictive insight for when increased aggressions were apt to start. Calculations indicate that we're due to see another rise in intense solar activity in about two years: September 22, 2010. NASA predicts that this will peak in 2012.

Animals can detect changes in the Earth's magnetic field

The internal compasses of some animals might work by detecting minute changes in the pace of biochemical reactions in different magnetic fields, researchers in the US suggested in June 2000.

Many creatures, including some birds, amphibians and reptiles, navigate by sensing tiny changes in the Earth's magnetic field. Sea turtles, for instance, can sense changes as small as a tenth of a microtesla—less than 0.2 per cent of the typical geomagnetic field.

But nobody knows exactly how these biological compasses work. One theory is that the magnetite molecules found in some tissues act just like miniature compass needles. Another is that animals sense changes in biochemical reaction rates caused by differing magnetic fields, which are known to alter the pace of a wide range of chemical reactions.

Studies in Russia

Some Russian scientists say that these same changes taking place now within our solar system and planet were occurring when the dinosaurs became extinct — a time that marked a gigantic shift in the earth's climate and weather patterns, and perhaps a pole shift, as well. Our planet hasn't flipped its Magnetic Poles in 780,000 years and may be long overdue.

Scientists from the Russian National Academy of Science in Siberia have come to the conclusion that we have moved into an area of space that is different and has a much higher energy level. The Russians are reporting changes that are being recorded in space that have never been seen before. The Russians have looked at the leading edge of our sun's heliosphere and they have observed glowing, plasma energy.

The Russian National Academy of Sciences doesn't give us a time-line, but the change from what was known and accepted to the way it is now represents a 1000 percent increase. And the Russians say that this change in the Sun is changing how the planets function and what kind of life they could support. They even report — but don't explain — that the DNA spiral itself is altering.

They feel that the continued expansion of the heliosphere will eventually take us into a new level of energy, that there will probably be a sudden expansion of the basic harmonic wavelengths that the Sun emits as it radiates energy out of itself, and that this increase in energy emission will change the basic nature of all matter in the Solar System.

Sun's protective 'bubble' is shrinking

New data has revealed that the heliosphere, the protective shield of energy that surrounds our solar system, has weakened by 25 per cent over the past decade and is now at it lowest level since the space race began 50 years ago.


Scientists are baffled at what could be causing the barrier to shrink in this way and are to launch mission to study the heliosphere. Dr Nathan Schwadron, co-investigator on the IBEX mission at Boston University, said: "Around 90 per cent of the galactic cosmic radiation is deflected by our heliosphere, so the boundary protects us from this harsh galactic environment."

The heliosphere is created by the solar wind, a combination of electrically charged particles and magnetic fields that emanate a more than a million miles an hour from the sun, meet the intergalactic gas that fills the gaps in space between solar systems. Without the heliosphere the harmful intergalactic cosmic radiation would make life on Earth almost impossible by destroying DNA and making the climate uninhabitable.

If the heliosphere continues to weaken, scientists fear that the amount of cosmic radiation reaching the inner parts of our solar system, including Earth, will increase. This could result in growing levels of disruption to electrical equipment, damage satellites and potentially even harm life on Earth.

Sun Blamed for Warming of Earth and Other Worlds

It has also been postulated that this is the real reason for both global warming since higher energy levels of the Milky Way are almost certain to cause our Sun to burn hotter and emit higher energies. This is why other planets in the solar system, like Mars, Neptune, and Pluto are also warming up. Temperatures have been seen to rise on virtually all the planets in our system. This seems quite apart from any local phenomenon like greenhouse gases etc.

Habibullo Abdussamatov, the head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, recently linked the attenuation of ice caps on Mars to fluctuations in the sun's output. Abdussamatov also blamed solar fluctuations for Earth’s current global warming trend. His initial comments were published online by National Geographic News.

Benny Peiser, a social anthropologist at Liverpool John Moores University who monitors studies and news reports of asteroids, global warming and other potentially apocalyptic topics, recently quoted in his daily electronic newsletter the following from a blog called Strata-Sphere: “Global warming on Neptune's moon Triton as well as Jupiter and Pluto, and now Mars has some [scientists] scratching their heads over what could possibly be in common with the warming of all these planets ... Could there be something in common with all the planets in our solar system that might cause them all to warm at the same time?”

During a 75-year period beginning in 1645, astronomers detected almost no sunspot activity on the Sun. Called the “Maunder Minimum,” this event coincided with the coldest part of the Little Ice Age, a 350-year cold spell that gripped much of Europe and North America.

New Studies Indicate how sounds from the sun affect earthquakes on earth

Scientists from the European Space Agency's Ulysses mission have proven that sounds generated deep inside the Sun cause the Earth to shake and vibrate in sympathy. They have found that Earth’s magnetic field, atmosphere and terrestrial systems, all take part in this cosmic sing-along.

Although these tones are all around us, it would not be possible for us to hear them, even if we listened very closely. Their pitch is too low for the human ear, typically 100-5000 microHertz (1 microHertz corresponds to 1 vibration every 278 hours).

The scientists say data from the Ulysses project provided an important clue as to how these sounds generated deep inside the Sun reach the Earth. Measurements made by the Ulysses deep space probe, which was launched in 1990 to orbit the sun, have shown that the pressure created inside the heliosphere by the solar wind has been decreasing.

Here's How it Works

The Researchers believe that the key to the problem is magnetism. They suggests that specific tones described as g-mode vibrations are picked up by the magnetic field at the Sun’s surface. Part of this magnetic field is then carried away from Sun into interplanetary space by solar wind. The magnetic field of the solar wind in turn interacts with the Earth’s magnetic field and causes it to vibrate in sympathy, retaining the characteristic g-mode signals.

The motions of the geomagnetic field then couple into the solid Earth to produce small, but easily detectable, responses as Earth, with many of its technological systems, moves to the rhythm of the Sun.

The Solar System

The atmospheres of five of the planets and the Earth's moon are changing. The earth's atmosphere in the upper levels is forming HO gas that didn't exist in the quantity that it does now. The Scientists from the Russian National Academy of Science say it's not related to global warming, CFCs or fluorocarbon emissions. They claim the atmospheres of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune are also are changing. The Martian atmosphere is getting sizably thicker than it was before.

The Mars Observer probe in 1997 lost one of its mirrors, which caused it to crash. This happened because the atmosphere was about twice as dense as NASA had calculated.

The brightness and magnetic field of the planets is changing

Venus is showing marked increases in its overall brightness. Jupiter's energetic charge has risen so high that there is actually a visible tube of ionizing radiation that's formed between the surface of Jupiter and its moon Io. You can actually see the luminous energy tube in photographs that have been taken recently.

Uranus and Neptune also are becoming brighter. The magnetic fields of Jupiter, Uranus, and Neptune are changing. Jupiter's magnetic field has more than doubled and Neptune's magnetic field is increasing. All three of these planets are becoming brighter, and their atmospheric qualities, say the Russians, are changing — but they do not explain what is meant by this.

The Russians report that Uranus and Neptune appear to have had recent pole shifts. When the Voyager II space probe flew past Uranus and Neptune, the apparent north and south magnetic poles were sizably offset from where the rotational pole was in earlier recordings. In one case, it was 50 degrees off, and in the other case the difference was around 40 degrees.

What Is Going On?

Since 1900 we have gone from riding horses to launching satellites into space. From sending letters by horseback to firing them off with instantaneous email, cell phones, and faxes. On the other hand, we have gone from warring with primitive weapons to atomic bombs and bioterrorism.

And perhaps even more significantly, in 1900 the Earth had 30 million species, species which took billions of years to create. Now, we have less than half that number — fewer than 15 million species. And this all happened in 100 years: a geological blink of an eye. Disturbingly, we may be at the bring of World War Three following an economic crash of the world economy.

This new information about the changes in our solar system comes at an interesting time for our planet. It could be possible that for some time celestial events may have been playing their part in shaping our way of life on the planet, and that these changes that we are now seeing with our sun, magnetic field, and solar system may be the very thing that changes our world as we know it into something new.

Only time will tell, but it appears that the future may already be here....

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That guys is an alarmist, I read up to the breach part and the guy neglects to say that this breach is the magnetic reconnection! The breach happens when our fields align with the sun in a southward position (how many times am I going to have to say that...) Everytime the northern lights start up it means that a magnetic reconnection is happening and energetic particles stream into our atmosphere. While this is a strange thing for a field that protects us from the said particles to do, it is normal.

He's just using articles and information for his own purposes, how it suits him. Our field is fine, if it wasn't you and every other living thing would be dead. The issue here is not the field itself but rather what is causing all the anomolous activity. Please don't hijack this thread and turn it into some bs alarmist propoganda.
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ehhh... are we missing data again?
...but I am/was checking it almost every hour and suddenly I see this one, which says that for hours we had no data!!!!!
and I thought we got correct images... any body knows what does that mean?? Thanks...

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ehhh... are we missing data again?
...but I am/was checking it almost every hour and suddenly I see this one, which says that for hours we had no data!!!!!
and I thought we got correct images... any body knows what does that mean?? Thanks...

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
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something happened...they said there a blast due yesterday. but there is more than meets the eyes here i think. the shield was starting to heat up before the no data...who knows. to me, the missing data is symbolic..
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That guys is an alarmist, I read up to the breach part and the guy neglects to say that this breach is the magnetic reconnection! The breach happens when our fields align with the sun in a southward position (how many times am I going to have to say that...) Everytime the northern lights start up it means that a magnetic reconnection is happening and energetic particles stream into our atmosphere. While this is a strange thing for a field that protects us from the said particles to do, it is normal.

He's just using articles and information for his own purposes, how it suits him. Our field is fine, if it wasn't you and every other living thing would be dead. The issue here is not the field itself but rather what is causing all the anomolous activity. Please don't hijack this thread and turn it into some bs alarmist propoganda.
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i just got to say something here, first off, the guy isn't hijacking the thread, the thread was started by someone alarmed, not by someone who said everything is normal about the field. why don't you start a thread called the mag. shield is normal?
you keep saying the field is fine, but it is what is hitting it that is the anomaly. have you not noticed that it is systematic? yah, the shield is still up, but i think it is far from fine, and i'm not the only one who is thinking that. this is not alarmist prophaganda, and i didn't just get to this thread yesterday. you don't know everything about this, as do none of us, this is all very strange and people have been tossing their thoughts about it out there. i've left this thread once because of thread nazis who can't think outside the box, and try to supress those who do, but this time, i'm not going to...
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That guys is an alarmist, I read up to the breach part and the guy neglects to say that this breach is the magnetic reconnection! The breach happens when our fields align with the sun in a southward position (how many times am I going to have to say that...) Everytime the northern lights start up it means that a magnetic reconnection is happening and energetic particles stream into our atmosphere. While this is a strange thing for a field that protects us from the said particles to do, it is normal.

He's just using articles and information for his own purposes, how it suits him. Our field is fine, if it wasn't you and every other living thing would be dead. The issue here is not the field itself but rather what is causing all the anomolous activity. Please don't hijack this thread and turn it into some bs alarmist propoganda.
i just got to say something here, first off, the guy isn't hijacking the thread, the thread was started by someone alarmed, not by someone who said everything is normal about the field. why don't you start a thread called the mag. shield is normal?
you keep saying the field is fine, but it is what is hitting it that is the anomaly. have you not noticed that it is systematic? yah, the shield is still up, but i think it is far from fine, and i'm not the only one who is thinking that. this is not alarmist prophaganda, and i didn't just get to this thread yesterday. you don't know everything about this, as do none of us, this is all very strange and people have been tossing their thoughts about it out there. i've left this thread once because of thread nazis who can't think outside the box, and try to supress those who do, but this time, i'm not going to...
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Yeah...as annoying as it can be, I also don't want to only read about the opposite of what they say either. Don't let them get to you and use what ever info from them and the others to your advantage. Wasting time arguing with them just wastes the time I could be readin somethin else a bit more informative than name calling. Oh never mind...I forgot...it's GLP. tomato
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Magnetic Field Hole Could Cripple Communications

Friday, December 19, 2008 | FoxNews.com
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A close-up of a solar flare as imaged by the TRACE space probe in September 2005.

Scientists have found two large leaks in Earth's magnetosphere, the region around our planet that shields us from severe solar storms.

The leaks are defying many of scientists' previous ideas on how the interaction between Earth's magnetosphere and solar wind occurs: The leaks are in an unexpected location, let in solar particles in faster than expected and the whole interaction works in a manner that is completely the opposite of what scientists had thought.

The findings have implications for how solar storms affect the our planet. Serious storms, which involved charged particles spewing from the sun, can disable satellites and even disrupt power grids on Earth.

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The new observations "overturn the way that we understand how the sun's magnetic field interacts with the Earth's magnetic field," said David Sibeck of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., during a press conference today at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco.

The bottom line: When the next peak of solar activity comes, in about 4 years, electrical systems on Earth and satellites in space may be more vulnerable.

How it works

Earth's magnetic field carves out a cavity in the sun's onrushing field. The Earth's magnetosphere is thus "buffeted like a wind sock in gale force winds, fluttering back and forth in the" solar wind, Sibeck explained.

Both the sun's magnetic field and the Earth's magnetic field can be oriented northward or southward (Earth's magnetic field is often described as a giant bar magnet in space).
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The sun's magnetic field shifts its orientation frequently, sometimes becoming aligned with the Earth, sometime becoming anti-aligned.

Scientists had thought that more solar particles entered Earth's magnetosphere when the sun's field was oriented southward (anti-aligned to the Earth's), but the opposite turned out to be the case, the new research shows.

The work was sponsored by NASA and the National Science Foundation and based on observations by NASA's THEMIS (Time History of Events and Macroscale Interactions during Substorms) satellite.

How many and where

Essentially, the Earth's magnetic shield is at its strongest when scientists had thought it would be at its weakest.

When the fields aren't aligned, "the shield is up and very few particles come in," said physicist Jimmy Raeder of the University of New Hampshire in Durham.

Conversely, when the fields are aligned, it creates "a huge breach, and there's lots and lots of particles coming in," Raeder added, at the news conference.

As it orbited Earth, THEMIS's five spacecraft were able to estimate the thickness of the band of solar particles coming when the fields were aligned — it turned out to be about 20 times the number that got in when the fields were anti-aligned.

THEMIS was able to make these measurements as it moved through the band, with two spacecraft on different borders of the band; the band turned out to be one Earth radius thick, or about 4,000 miles (6,437 kilometers).

Measurements of the thickness taken later showed that the band was also rapidly growing.

"So this really changes our understanding of solar wind-magnetosphere coupling," said physicist Marit Oieroset of the University of California, Berkeley, also at the press conference.

And while the interaction of anti-aligned particles occurs at Earth's equator, those of aligned particles occur at higher latitudes both north and south of the equator.

The interaction is "appending blobs of plasma onto the Earth's magnetic field," which is an easy way to get the solar particles in, said Sibeck, a THEMIS project scientist.

Next solar cycle

This finding not only has implications for scientists' understanding of the interaction between the sun and Earth's magnetosphere, but for predicting the effects to Earth during the next peak in the solar cycle.

The Sun operates on an 11-year cycle, alternating between active and quiet periods. We are currently in a quiet period, with few sunspots on the sun's surface and fewer solar flares, though the next cycle of activity has begun.

It is expected to peak around 2012, bringing lots of sunspots, flares and coronal mass ejections (CMEs). CMEs can interact with the Earth's magnetosphere, causing problems for satellites, communications, and power grids.

This upcoming active period now looks like it will be more intense than the previous one, which peaked around 2006, some scientists think. The reason is the changes in the sun's alignment.

During the last peak, solar fields hitting the Earth were first anti-aligned then aligned. Anti-aligned fields can energize particles, but in this case, the energy came before the particles themselves, which doesn't create much of a fuss in terms of geomagnetic storms and disruptions.

But the next cycle will see aligned, then anti-aligned fields, in theory amplifying the effects of the storms as they hit.

Raeder likens the difference to igniting a gas stove one of two ways: In the first way, the gas is turned on and the stove is lit and you get a flame.

In the other way, you let the gas run for awhile, so that when you add the gas you get a much bigger boom.

"It should be that we're in for a tough time in the next 11 years," Sibeck said.
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That guys is an alarmist, I read up to the breach part and the guy neglects to say that this breach is the magnetic reconnection! The breach happens when our fields align with the sun in a southward position (how many times am I going to have to say that...) Everytime the northern lights start up it means that a magnetic reconnection is happening and energetic particles stream into our atmosphere. While this is a strange thing for a field that protects us from the said particles to do, it is normal.

He's just using articles and information for his own purposes, how it suits him. Our field is fine, if it wasn't you and every other living thing would be dead. The issue here is not the field itself but rather what is causing all the anomolous activity. Please don't hijack this thread and turn it into some bs alarmist propoganda.
i just got to say something here, first off, the guy isn't hijacking the thread, the thread was started by someone alarmed, not by someone who said everything is normal about the field. why don't you start a thread called the mag. shield is normal?
you keep saying the field is fine, but it is what is hitting it that is the anomaly. have you not noticed that it is systematic? yah, the shield is still up, but i think it is far from fine, and i'm not the only one who is thinking that. this is not alarmist prophaganda, and i didn't just get to this thread yesterday. you don't know everything about this, as do none of us, this is all very strange and people have been tossing their thoughts about it out there. i've left this thread once because of thread nazis who can't think outside the box, and try to supress those who do, but this time, i'm not going to...




Yeah...as annoying as it can be, I also don't want to only read about the opposite of what they say either. Don't let them get to you and use what ever info from them and the others to your advantage. Wasting time arguing with them just wastes the time I could be readin somethin else a bit more informative than name calling. Oh never mind...I forgot...it's GLP. tomato
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whatever.
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Scientists have found two large leaks in Earth's magnetosphere, the region around our planet that shields us from severe solar storms.

The leaks are defying many of scientists' previous ideas on how the interaction between Earth's magnetosphere and solar wind occurs: The leaks are in an unexpected location, let in solar particles in faster than expected and the whole interaction works in a manner that is completely the opposite of what scientists had thought.

The findings have implications for how solar storms affect the our planet. Serious storms, which involved charged particles spewing from the sun, can disable satellites and even disrupt power grids on Earth.

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...and I was also searching for this article to say that Earth's magnetosphere is not normal anymore, for people who only believe in NASA, this article is more then enough to consider that something is going on.

...and I also want to hear from both side, meaning: from scientific view of point (with pain in my heart ;))and from intuitive /spiritual /historian/ prophecy side.

We can read and enjoy the contribution /input of our friends here and try to connect the dots. At least all of us are agree, that something, some where, some how is wrong.

...again thanks to all of you... bump
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ehhh... are we missing data again?
...but I am/was checking it almost every hour and suddenly I see this one, which says that for hours we had no data!!!!!
and I thought we got correct images... any body knows what does that mean?? Thanks...

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
something happened...they said there a blast due yesterday. but there is more than meets the eyes here i think. the shield was starting to heat up before the no data...who knows. to me, the missing data is symbolic..
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what makes me upset is, they have fooled us for hours and then suddenly we see that we were watching a manipulated/ false data. our Beloved NASA/ scientists...
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Well good , More then one can see the data is being tampered with .




I think that 3-25-2009 would have been a great day to watch activity in the Magnetopshere, If only there were not so many holes in the data for the day.
Observations 3-24-2009 to 3-25-2009

Mar 23 22:00 UTC
Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to be predominantly quiet for the next three days (24-26 March).

Bait & Switch after the Fact

Mar 24 22:00 UTC
Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to be quiet to unsettled for the next two days (25-26 March).

1. Magnetic data out of Andenes started @ around 20:00 in an uptick at the arrival of the disturbanceon 3-24-2009 , And then on 3-25-2009 @ 03:00 most active and in coincidence at about the same time as the other data outages

Variations in the CCMC BATSRUS Model

2 . CCMC Data Outage on 3-25-2009 @ 03:35 . When the data restarts at time marker 14:12 , The streaming graph data in the lower right coner is already recording time in the 07:00 hours range

3. Nict imagery for this time frame also has a data outage on March 25 2009

4. Ace Real Time 03:00 till nearly 07:00 ~ ACE User Group ~ Speed & Dynamic Pressure Dropout first and then the Bz stopped reporting at 03:13 . At 06:23 the data started to re stream once more

5. SOHO CELIAS ~ Data looks to be stopped at just before 00:00 and remains out till nearly 08:00 on 3-25-2009

6. Magnetometer Readings at many different locations all picking the same signal and at the exact time as the Data Outages.

Thus making it next to Impossible to create or recreate events that led up to the magnetic activity that just has occurred on 3-25-2009

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SoHO position
--Date-- -- SoHO position (GSE)-- Heliocentric Heliographic Car.
YY MM DD X Y Z Distance Lat Long Rot. (Re) (Re) (Re) (10**6 km) (deg) (deg) #
09 03 25 220.3 -104.2 -3.5 147.8 -6.9 155.5 2081


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3-day Solar-Geophysical Forecast issued Mar 23 22:00 UTC

Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to be very low.

Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to be predominantly quiet for the next three days (24-26 March).

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3-day Solar-Geophysical Forecast issued Mar 24 22:00 UTC

Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to be very low.

Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to be quiet to unsettled for the next two days (25-26 March). Conditions are expected to be quiet on the third day (27 March).

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Space Weather Message Code: ALTK04
Serial Number: 1407
Issue Time: 2009 Mar 25 0325 UTC

ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 4
Threshold Reached: 2009 Mar 25 0324 UTC
Synoptic Period: 0300-0600 UTC
Station: Boulder
Active Warning: No


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"...and I was also searching for this article to say that Earth's magnetosphere is not normal anymore, for people who only believe in NASA, this article is more then enough to consider that something is going on."

And you know it is not normal how? Have you been looking at the magnetosphere for years? I doubt it. I have seen it do much much stranger things when we were in the solax maximum and getting hit by CME's and flares. But if you had bothered to read anything I posted before you would know this. You can see this for yourself by picking dates in which major flares occured and watching the archived data on NICT's website.

It is NOT the magnetosphere that is the anomaly, so why do you insist on saying it is unless you were trying to discredit the thread or just plain ignorant. The magnetoshpere is fine, but the cause of all this activity is not known and it is not the sun as has always been previously when activity ramps up!


"i just got to say something here, first off, the guy isn't hijacking the thread, the thread was started by someone alarmed, not by someone who said everything is normal about the field. why don't you start a thread called the mag. shield is normal?
you keep saying the field is fine, but it is what is hitting it that is the anomaly. have you not noticed that it is systematic? yah, the shield is still up, but i think it is far from fine, and i'm not the only one who is thinking that. this is not alarmist prophaganda, and i didn't just get to this thread yesterday. you don't know everything about this, as do none of us, this is all very strange and people have been tossing their thoughts about it out there. i've left this thread once because of thread nazis who can't think outside the box, and try to supress those who do, but this time, i'm not going to..."

Whoever posted that alarmist propaganda would see that the information they posted has been manipulated to suit the author, IF YOU HAD BOTHERED TO READ ANYTHING I POSTED YOU WOULD SEE THIS. Yes, we have a leak, and it's been there ever since mankind has been seeing the Aurora Borealis aka Northern/Southern lights. You call me a nazi and say I can't think outside the box when you don't know me, when you don't even bother to read the whole thread, that is plain ignorant. Then you say I'm trying to supress information when I have been a major contributor? Funny, go back under your bridge, troll.

If the only thing you can do is post someone else's thoughts and info and then saying "OMFG THE SHIELD IS FUCKED WE'RE ALL DOOMED" then perhaps you should leave this thread.

Once again I have to say I find it laughable that people just hop on the bandwagon and start crying doom when they didn't even fucking bother reading through the thread in the first place. I hate stupid people and I hope that when doom comes they are the first to go. Now that I have vented time to get back on topic.

All the data sets I know of had outages too, this is either because of an extremely powerful event which the sensitive instruments on the satellites couldn't handle or someone is screwing with the data. Or both. Hard to tell from our end.

The strangest thing is the scales keep changing on all the data sets, I thought the axis are meant to be static and NOT dynamic. I haven't seen that done before.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

The first outage in the Bt plot, the black line, looks like it would have spiked off the chart. The outages do tell us something though, that something powerful happened to knock the satellites out or force a shutdown and cause the agencies to censor data for whatever reason. Either way we know it spikes, probably fairly high/low.
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looks like a shrill. oh well. soon it won't matter, the truth will be revealed. had a dream about the new moon last night. it comes up tomorrow morning around 10 est.
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All the data sets I know of had outages too, this is either because of an extremely powerful event which the sensitive instruments on the satellites couldn't handle or someone is screwing with the data. Or both. Hard to tell from our end.

The strangest thing is the scales keep changing on all the data sets, I thought the axis are meant to be static and NOT dynamic. I haven't seen that done before.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

The first outage in the Bt plot, the black line, looks like it would have spiked off the chart. The outages do tell us something though, that something powerful happened to knock the satellites out or force a shutdown and cause the agencies to censor data for whatever reason. Either way we know it spikes, probably fairly high/low.
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Yep , I have to agree with you there

something powerful happened to knock the satellites out or force a shutdown and cause the agencies to censor data for whatever reason
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Thanks for posting this thread. I really enjoyed the long excerpt.

What I am looking at is changes in the earth's rotation affecting the mag field. Melting ice or thermal expansion of the earth may cause this effect. What may be happening is a mismatch in the rotation of the mantle with respect to the liquid portion of the core causing collapse of the field.
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NASA being a US governmental agency, why don't the people in the US use FOI to access documents pertaining to this? We should at the very least start emailing these scientists and ask wtf is going on and if they don't know then ask for their input on the activity, at least a hypothesis, anything is better than mere speculation. This is YOUR tax dollars at work, so you have the right to know.

I noticed something strange, each time we have a big geomagnetic storm, we always get heavy cloud cover in Melbourne, Australia. We are fairly close to the south pole so I assume clouds also stop these particles? Or somehow interact with them to form clouds? Could just be my imagination but the connection between storms in space and here on earth are eerily close.
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it always gets cloudy here too. last month when the blasts were harder, it would get very windy and cold the next day. here's a link to another thread, what i wonder, is why they are telling us this now. we have missing data, then we have nasa warning us of a "2012" scenerio, but i don't think they really mean 2012 the timing is just too weird.
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The 2012 date is only an estimate of when the solar maximum kicks into high gear. Mind you before we hit this "quiet" period with the sun, we were also in a solar minimum since 2001, but the activity from the sun was anything BUT minimum. In fact if you see some of the CME and flares on SOHO you'd be pretty shocked at how violent and huge these things can be.

And now we're supposed to be entering the next period of the solar cycle and we still have yet to see a single sun spot!

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