I have reconstructed the data from this event from 12-27-2004 . Known as the Super Burst , It was from Source SGR1806-20 a ultra-magnetic neutron star -- magnetar.
In this movie is the Nict Simulation for the day , And it is noteworthy that the activity that has occurred in 2009 also from a Neutron Star would suggest the recent Burst are either closer or they are stronger then this Super Burst from 2004.The magnetic field more or less snapped in a process scientists call magnetic reconnection except this was not due to the Sun but from a Cosmic Burst.The magnetic field around a neutron star -- magnetar. is about 1,000 trillion gauss, strong enough to strip information from a credit card at a distance halfway to the Moon.Gamma rays are the highest form of radiation on the electromagnetic spectrum, which includes X-rays, visible light and radio waves too.The star, named SGR 1806-20, spins once on its axis every 7.5 seconds, and it is surrounded by a magnetic field more powerful than any other object in the universe. The result of this burst saw a massive release of magnetic energy .The blast was 100 times more powerful than any other similar eruption witnessed up till now. The explosion that was halfway across the galaxy packed so much power it briefly altered Earth's upper atmosphere. The event equaled the brightness of the full Moon's reflected visible light,
Anonymous Coward User ID: 647643 United States 4/3/2009 8:49 AM
The common denominator for these events seems to be Neutron Stars -- Magnetars
It is noteworthy to add that the activity that has occurred in 2009 also from a Neutron Star Outburst would suggest that the recent Burst are either closer or they are stronger then this Super Burst from 2004.
meras User ID: 641576 United Kingdom 4/3/2009 8:54 AM
Black holes tend generally tend to shoot out X-rays rather than gamma rays, I have only read about neutron stars and pulsars shooting out gamma rays. Seems like black holes emit matter as well as energy, but no one is sure about what exactly shoots out of these jets.
"Sequence of Hubble images showing apparent motion at six times the speed of light in the galaxy M87"
If you ever saw a picture of a gamma ray bursts losing energy as it gets closer to the ground, it looks very much like a lightning strike, kinda odd seeing as how recently we've found gamma rays being emitted from the earth itself above storm clouds. Somehow lightning and gamma rays are related.
And there was a huge density spike which looks like it went off the charts.
Usually these blasts last for hours but this one didn't even last one hour. Wonder what it was.
Quoting: Xenus 581916
Xenus, I don't think you were ever "banned" there is just some shitty little quirk probably black ops related. I have been "banned" and I never even posted here until recently, and was simply getting in a link from a website postiing somewhere. So far I haven't been banned since I started to post. I had actually never even logged in to the front page at all until recently. I even wrote back once from the banned notice with them saying must be because I am an aol customer, but no, I am not.
Now, these frequent little blasts with high protons like a couple hours ago, are from starfleet who are attempting to delay the imminent magnetic pole reversal until they have better control of it after we enter the 2 year plus "stasis" period. There will be a magnetic pole reversal during stasis, part of the renewal plans of a depleted planet loaded with dark and angry people. It must be cleansed of both the pollution and the anger before we can entertain the ascension idea.
All these bursts the last couple months or more are related to that, when they aren't obviously from the sun. The aren't GRB's.
To whoever here keeps asking Xenus to buzz off, who in hell are you??????? He/She/It puts out a lot of information and is an thinker. So thinkers don't belong on a "conspiracy" forum? It is exactly thinkers that belong here, perhaps you are the one who should be buzzing off, for lack of thinking.
This is a very dumbed down society, please do not encourage further dumbing down. Of course that is your job I guess, are you a professional CIA debunker, or just your average debunker, who has nothing better to do with your time than muck up this place? Small mind perhaps? God this is a disgusting forum, GLP with the debunkers.
meras User ID: 641576 United Kingdom 4/3/2009 9:39 AM
Xenus, I am keeping track of the irregualarities in the rotation and tilt of the planet. They became extensive shortly before daylight savings time started. Variation in rise, set and throughout the day, plus stuff after the sun sets for me. A few days ago, I went out to check the position of Orion and Starship Sirius not long after dark. Then a bit later I developed bad motion sickness, and after I got over that I went outside and the sky was skewed really strangely and as of last night, it is only partially rectified. Big changes all the time. Had a shadow marker in my house that records around 9:30 am, from a shadow made by window and went to check when my timer went off to see the time the sun hit that point and the shadow was gone, the sun had suddenly in a hours time moved so far above my window I couldn't get a time, no shadow cast by the middle section of the window. Yet the day before, no problem at that time. I have about a dozen stations set up to monitor the time the sun gets to them. VArious methods. So my guess is that was a sudden tilt change.
Xenus User ID: 649217 Anonymous Proxy 4/3/2009 9:55 AM
I was only banned because I posted a link to an image I hosted, which the forum didn't like.
"Xenus, I don't think you were ever "banned" there is just some shitty little quirk probably black ops related. I have been "banned" and I never even posted here until recently, and was simply getting in a link from a website postiing somewhere. So far I haven't been banned since I started to post. I had actually never even logged in to the front page at all until recently. I even wrote back once from the banned notice with them saying must be because I am an aol customer, but no, I am not.
Now, these frequent little blasts with high protons like a couple hours ago, are from starfleet who are attempting to delay the imminent magnetic pole reversal until they have better control of it after we enter the 2 year plus "stasis" period. There will be a magnetic pole reversal during stasis, part of the renewal plans of a depleted planet loaded with dark and angry people. It must be cleansed of both the pollution and the anger before we can entertain the ascension idea.
All these bursts the last couple months or more are related to that, when they aren't obviously from the sun. The aren't GRB's."
Nice try, but no thanks. Taking my side and then pumping all that crap into the thread only to discredit credible information that myself and others who are here are contributing. I don't need defending, I don't need anything from anyone except for people to think for themselves and contribute useful information and ideas. Not some fantasy fiction crap from a deluded mind or a skilled debunker.
I believe in nothing, especially not aliens coming here to save us from ourselves. If aliens did exist (being a fan of science fiction as well as science I do hope they do, but so far until they show up, they do not) and were intelligent, do you honestly think they would save such a stupid and pathetic species such as humans? No, they would see how many species we have killed, how we fucked our planet up and keep fucking it up and either destroy us or let us destroy ourselves.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 334065 United Kingdom 4/3/2009 9:59 AM
Looks like the debunkers are getting a little creative, too bad they are fucking stupid, hahahaha. Quit trying to spread your BS here and discredit the thread. And for fucks sake, get a decent education so you can spell right.
Can't debunk real data and facts so you're trying to fill the thread with BS fiction, not even good for fiction, starfleet? Come on, you can't even come up with something a little more creative?
Xenus User ID: 581916 United States 4/3/2009 10:16 AM
Particle density is really erratic, with large spikes happening almost daily recently. These particles are usually from the solar wind or from CMEs, but seeing how the wind is quiet and so is the sun, these particles are coming from bursts somewhere.
Protons are positive, so when we get hit by a large burst of protons our atmosphere is getting filled with positively charged particles.
Xenus User ID: 581916 United States 4/3/2009 10:20 AM
OK this is kind of freaky, but as I was typing my last response we just had a deluge rain down and right at exactly the same time there was another spike in density, perhaps they are related or just a coincidence.
Good find, it's looking more and more likely that my speculation regarding the connection between cosmic rays and rain/cloud formation is correct. The past couple of days I have also found a few other published papers and articles which loosely tie the two events together. But considering that there are so many elements in play when it comes to weather, on earth and in space, it is very hard to prove this as a fact, only theory.
But for me, it's proof enough, another piece slots into place. So, so far, what does it all mean? I will have to meditate on this later and let the information sink in and link up in my brain ^_^
Appreciate your input as always meras. Keep it up.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 647643 United States 4/3/2009 10:51 AM
A thought occurs to me, if so much out there in space has such a significant effect on our planet and us and everything on it... could those crazy astrologers have been onto something?
It's only a thought, seems kind of obvious really, but perhaps it wasn't all BS to begin with? I don't know much about astrology myself, but people seem to equate it with all the new age woo-woo stuff, but astrology has been around for a long, long time from what I know, and kings and pharoahs had priests who would divine the stars for them. I can see how these priests could/would use this to their advantage to manipulate the rulers and over time the true practice of astrology would be watered down or lost.
But in theory if they had the knowledge of these sorts of events in the "heavens", perhaps there is more to it.
meras User ID: 641576 United Kingdom 4/3/2009 2:05 PM
X-ray and infrared spectra are telltale signs. Some brown dwarfs emit X-rays; and all "warm" dwarfs continue to glow tellingly in the red and infrared spectra until they cool to planet like temperatures (under 1000 K).
"Most photomorphogenous processes of terrestrial plants are controlled by bright red and an alternation between red (lambda = 660 nm) and far-red (lambda = 730 nm) light. The accompanying receptor is phytochrome, a protein-chromophore-complex existing in at least two different states that can be transferred from one state to the other upon light exposure".
I have pointed out on this forum before that photoperiodic plants (plants which regulate their life cycles by day length not temperature) have been flowering out of season. Now this timing is crucial to the survival of the plants in the temperate regions of the world - for instance woodland plants must flower before the leaf canopy opens on the trees and shuts out the light in the springtime.
In a laboratory environment and in the cut-flower industry plants can be made to flower out of season by subjecting them to a light source in the wavelengths given above (forcing). However, the flowering observed is happening in nature - what is the light source?
Xenus User ID: 581916 United States 4/3/2009 2:23 PM
Sounds like you are pointing things to planet x meras... If you do mention planet x, I will have to print all these pages out, find out where you live, come to you and smack you with the printed pages.
I think it is unlikely that such a thing exists and we have not found it yet... Especially given the fact we have found such things light years away, you'd think we could easily spot something as large as jupiter orbiting the sun by now, wouldn't you... Unless of course there was a world wide cover up including all space agencies, scientists and etc.
Xenus User ID: 581916 United States 4/3/2009 2:31 PM
And FYI, I wouldn't mind it existing or not either way, it would make things a lot more interesting and it's not impossible that such a thing does indeed exist, but right now there is no evidence for that sort of thing, yet.
Something is happening, yes, we don't fully understand what exactly and throwing ideas around is good, but only those that have at least some evidence (observable or data). Planet X has been discussed many times over the years, and it's never gotten anywhere.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 539080 Netherlands 4/3/2009 3:20 PM
Can you please give us a list of subjects that they are accepted by you as normal and a list of subjects that you do not want to discuss here at all.
That is very important to us to know your wish, then we can Construct a perfect thread for you.
thanks...
meras User ID: 641576 United Kingdom 4/3/2009 3:49 PM
I was just wondering out loud why photoperiodic plants are flowering out of season and what was the extrasolar light source which is the cause.
I made an observation verifiable in the field.
The whole subject has been debunked and ridiculed with doom dates which have come and gone - maybe for good reason.
A/C647643 has stated "Much of the problem here is that if even a little of what we are talking about is true , Many of the accepted theories on relativity,gravity, and others would be proved to be not correct and outdated"
If observations are in conflict with entrenched theories do we discard the observations and not go there in case of conflict (head in the sand).
Anonymous Coward User ID: 647643 United States 4/3/2009 4:17 PM
With unusually low solar activity there has never been a better time to study Anomalous Behavior . This episode was right on the fringe in the belt as seen in the ENLIL .
Interstellar neutral gas flows through the solar system like an interstellar wind, at a speed of 25 km/sec. When closer to the Sun, these atoms undergo the loss of one electron in photo-ionization or by charge exchange. Photo-ionization is when an electron is knocked off by a solar ultra-violet photon, and charge exchange involves giving up an electron to an ionized solar wind atom. Once these particles are charged, the Sun's magnetic field picks them up and carries them outward to the solar wind termination shock. They are called pickup ions during this part of their trip.
The ions repeatedly collide with the termination shock, gaining energy in the process. This continues until they escape from the shock and diffuse toward the inner heliosphere. Those that are accelerated are then known as anomalous cosmic rays
Ace to Stereo ACE and STEREO-B - Time shifted to predict conditions at ACE.. Note a very Big Variance ( Ion Density ,B - Z-Y-X [nT]
And also in Stereo B . Leading up to the break Bn (nT) & Theta (deg). Significant Drop Out noted
Stereo B Impact Protons , Spikes in the 75 to 137 kev range ,Starting on 4-2-2009 and ongoing Anomalous Behavior into 4-3-2009
Nict AE Index shows the Dens.(p/cc) Spike
nict AE Index , Simulation Observation 10:00 to 12:00 on 4-3-2009
CCMC BATSRUS ,Simulation Observation 00:00 to 20:36 on 4-3-2009
Xenus User ID: 634884 Anonymous Proxy 4/3/2009 4:54 PM
The flowers flowering out of whack has been noticed since about 2003-4, but most people put that down to climate change. BTW which is it, are the plants getting less light or more light?
If it's less light then the sun might be outputting less of it. Or our atmosphere is blocking more of it or the part of the universe/galaxy we're moving through contains more dust so filters more light before it gets to us. And don't forget the slight drop in solar irradiance combined with an elongated orbit we're currently in but I can't see how that would reduce EM radiation too much.
If it's more light then there is another light source other than the sun or the sun itself is outputting more EM radiation. It could be Jupiter or one of the other gas giants in our solar system, some scientists now think that brown dwarfs aka failed stars and gas giants are the same thing because of the elements which make up the planets. And those emit infrared light. But these objects also produce radio waves, I'm not sure if an increase in the light spectrum also increases the radiowaves. It could also have to do with how close the gas giants are to us.
And the scientific method does have it's flaws, without a doubt, but it doesn't mean the observations are any less real or credible. Some scientists can cling to their ideas and theories for years, even "adjusting" data to fit their models instead of adjusting their models to fit the data.
It's human nature and can't be unavoided. That's why I like to have multiple sources on the data whenever possible, but sometimes that is just not possible.
Most scientists have to rely on grants and success in their fields and on how important their findings/reasearch/studies are in order to recieve more funding for their work. If it's not popular they won't get shit. Stupid system.
So I tend to use theories and models as loose explanations for the observations. After all theories and models are only a scientists professional opinion, not fact, until it's proven. Most theories are still just that, theories, yet people take them as fact and that can be dangerous.
After all, just because it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, feels like a duck, smells like a duck you would tend to think it is a duck, but sometimes it's not :)
meras User ID: 641576 United Kingdom 4/3/2009 5:10 PM
'Photoperiodic flowering plants are classified as long-day plants or short-day plants, though the regulatory mechanism is actually governed by hours of darkness, not the length of the day.
Modern biologists believe that it is the coincidence of the active forms of phytochrome or cryptochrome, created by light during the daytime, with the rhythms of the circadian clock that allows plants to measure the length of the night. Other than flowering, photoperiodism in plants includes the growth of stems or roots during certain seasons, or the loss of leaves'.
The reproduction of some animals is dependent on day-length and lambs have been born out of season again this has been simulated in laboratory conditions using a light source.
Climate change would imply temperature but the photoperiodic response is independent of temperature and we can see a reason for this as there can be a mild period during the winter months and if the plant was to flower or the ewe to give birth then the plant and lamb would perish during a subsequent cold snap. By using day-length as a measure of the season the organisms can regulate their life-cycles with precision.
As I have observed that the rising and setting times of the sun is in accordance with those published for my location I am looking for an additional light source.
meras User ID: 641576 United Kingdom 4/3/2009 5:36 PM
Let us assume a crime has been committed and we wish to summarise the evidence so that we can apprehend the criminal.
Photoperiodic plants flowering out of season - extrasolar light source required.
Shrinkage of heliosphere - do we observe this in other stars in the universe and under what conditions?
Quoting A/C647643 It is noteworthy to add that the activity that has occurred in 2009 also from a Neutron Star Outburst would suggest that the recent Burst are either closer or they are stronger then this Super Burst from 2004.
Please feel free to add all the other evidence that we have been accumulating and maybe we can get a photofit of what the culprit looks like.
Xenus User ID: 649511 Anonymous Proxy 4/3/2009 5:39 PM
That would depend on the frequency of light you are looking for. I'm assuming you're looking for the same spectrum as these plants need, the lower end of infrared/high end of the visible spectrum, you'd need to check with some of the satellites and observatories which view light in IR and x-ray like Chandra and Spitzer. But you might want to have at least an idea of the cause is, since the sky is big and all so you won't have any idea of where to look.
Start by checking the gas giants since they emit x-rays and IR radiation. Google sky (and that other service similiar to google's) also map space using IR, so that would be worth checking out.
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