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America's Horoscope for 2009
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 558903
2/5/2009 11:51 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
"The Nation is not the Government"..........
What kind of crap-talk is that? What is the Nation without the Government? Tell me that?
Face it, you got nothing. The dates you used are bogus and your whole approach is false and contrived.
Myth = BUSTED.
Now call up Sylvia Brown and chat about what Montel's rating will be in 2012......
Silly Monkey Brain, Astrology is for Movie Stars. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471789
2/5/2009 2:29 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
September will be all the proof you need. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 608906
2/6/2009 8:49 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Any way you figure it, whether you use a 7/2/1776 or the traditional 7/4/1776 chart, our national Solar Return (SR) for 2010 will have Sun conjunct South Node and opposite Pluto.
Our 2011 SR will have a grand cross, with a Sun-Pluto opposition squaring a Saturn-Uranus opposition, and all of it angular.
Our 2012 SR will still have the Sun-Pluto opposition squaring Uranus, but in the July 2nd chart, that Pluto is conjunct a Full Moon, and the whole T-Square is afflicting the Midheaven.
Our 2013 SR still has the Sun-Pluto opposition squaring Uranus, but all three of them are conjunct angles, and Jupiter is now conjunct the Sun as well, creating the classic Jupiter-Pluto opposition power struggle signature.
Our 2014 SR still has the Sun-Pluto opposition squaring Uranus, but here Mars is also opposing Uranus, forming another Grand Cross.
Our 2015 SR still has the Sun-Pluto opposition squaring Uranus, but here, Mars has conjoined the Sun as well.
Our 2016 SR finally shows Uranus to have moved out of range, and is no longer squaring the Sun-Pluto opposition. Plus, Venus and Mercury are conjunct the Sun and Jupiter is sextile, indicating an easing of tensions and problems that year.
All these SRs are just about as nasty as can be. And what they indicate is that the crisis we see ourselves sliding into today is not only going to continue a good stretch more, but it is going to make things a whole lot worse, especially from 2011 - 2015. By the time we hit that 2011 SR, with Saturn conjunct the ASC opposing Uranus on the DESC, and both of them squaring Sun on the MC opposing Pluto on the IC, this nation will not only be in a world of hurt already, but it will be festering with all sorts of crime, lawlessness, and desperation.
The only thing astrology will be good for then will be to let us know how long the crisis will last, and when the pain will start to lift.
The 2014 and 2015 SRs have Mars right in the middle of the Sun/Pluto/Uranus alignment, declaring these years to be filled with violence, conflict, and war for our nation.
No relief will arrive until the 2016 chart is in effect, which means that we will finally see a light at the end of the tunnel sometime between July 2016 - July 2017. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 558903
2/10/2009 2:50 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
America's chart insists that Obama's huge economic recovery package will be accepted before long, and shortly thereafter the markets will rise noticeably for a few months, until the next shock in late March or April. Quoting: op nli 471789
Yep. Solid gold Bullshit OP. Markets fall over 300 pts. and the day isn't over yet. Sure sounds like a steady rise to me.
Once again you = FAIL |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 558903
2/11/2009 1:56 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Where are you OP? Off sulking because you have been exposed as a fraud?
Wait. I know.
September is all the proof you need.
See, the problem with you is that you want glory, fame, fortune and recognition, nay, validation so bad that you actively pine for your doom predictions to come true.
How is the advance buzz on your book? Got any publishers lining up to shell out that big advance check for the rights?
Naw, didn't think so.
Epic FAIL |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 608906
2/13/2009 7:40 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
It won't be all going to shit instantly, despite what alot of folks here are worried about. It will be a process. Some average blue collar American citizens' lives won't be affected by it until as late as summer of 2011. |
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op nli
User ID: 608906
2/13/2009 7:49 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Yep. Solid gold Bullshit OP. Markets fall over 300 pts. and the day isn't over yet. Sure sounds like a steady rise to me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 558903
First comes the bill getting approved, then comes the rise. I didn't say anything about what the markets would do before the bill got accepted. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 608906
2/14/2009 10:37 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Tomorrow begins a 28-day window that will bring one of the biggest developments of the year for America. Between Sunday Jan 25 and Saturday Feb 21, a fairly momentous change will take place within the American Government. It will be the dawn of a new era, and will bring substantially increased power and authority to the Federal Government. Quoting: op nli 471789
Correct. The stimulus package passed within the given time window, and accomplished all those things. |
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x-factor
User ID: 1595
2/14/2009 1:21 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Interesting outlay OP, but which country or countries will be at war with the US and what'll happen to Europe ? Anything to say about that? Thanks. |
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anonanon
User ID: 254206
2/14/2009 2:53 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
There are always possibilities and choices to be made along the way.
So any horoscope or prophecies can be altered.
If the past week has shown us nothing, it has certainly shown us that the processes of Congress and the Senate need massive reforming. They passed a bill for billions of dollars that none of them could have possibly read or given any serious thought to.
And the Obama administration has made a power grab by taking control of the 2010 census which has been one of the few things the feds actually did rather well.
Hard times are here and it doesn't take a horoscope or genius to see that things are going to get a lot worse before they get better and that it may take a long time before it does get better.
So lets all be vigilant in watching, monitoring what those in DC are doing and how they are doing it. Look at actions not words and do not let your voice go unheard even if it means daily calls to your representatives and senators. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 608906
2/16/2009 10:10 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Astrologer fight again : Obama's expensive economic stimulus package passes.
[link to www.nytimes.com]
"Am I crazy, or wasn’t the Obama presidency pronounced dead just days ago? Obama had “all but lost control of the agenda in Washington,” declared Newsweek on Feb. 4 as it wondered whether he might even get a stimulus package through Congress. “Obama Losing Stimulus Message War” was the headline at Politico a day later. At the mostly liberal MSNBC, the morning host, Joe Scarborough, started preparing the final rites. Obama couldn’t possibly eke out a victory because the stimulus package was “a steaming pile of garbage.”
Newsweek, Politico, and MSNBC all worried that Obama's stimulus package would never make it. But I predicted otherwise in this thread, and my prediction proved correct. |
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op nli
User ID: 608906
2/16/2009 10:12 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
That was supposed to be "right again". |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 608622
2/16/2009 10:13 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
I thought we all gonna dissolve peacefully in Dec 21, 2012. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 592872
Yeah, we will all disolve peacefully...IN A MUSHROOM CLOUD PROVIDED BY MOST OF ASIA AND THE RUSSIANSTHATS WHAT THE HOPI PROPHETS SAY |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 608906
2/16/2009 10:30 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Interesting outlay OP, but which country or countries will be at war with the US and what'll happen to Europe ? Anything to say about that? Thanks. Quoting: x-factor 1595
No, sorry. I have limited tools. I have not studied the charts of most other nations enough to be satisfied the correct birthtimes are known.
IMO, the biggest single reason that astrology has such a poor reputation today, and why it seems to often show a poor track record, is that far too often, people are working with the wrong birthtimes.
The birthtime is everything. Without it, even if you have the time of birth narrowed down to an hour or two, you lose 90% of your ability to make accurate predictions except in the most vague and general terms.
Its just a matter of sloppy work, really. This field doesn't attract many of the best people, those who actually have the skills necessary to excel in it, and most of those who are attracted to it are not serious people. They lack discipline, and a great many of them lack simple common sense as well.
But if this publicly-conducted experiment is successful, that will all change. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 608906
2/16/2009 10:50 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Obama will be signing the bill in Denver Colorado tomorrow, Tuesday February 17 2009. I don't know what time yet; maybe its not been published.
But the interesting thing is that he will be signing this bill during an exact conjunction of Mars and Jupiter. The conjunction is exact at 9:28 AM EST.
Now, what's interesting about this is that this is exactly the sort of thing an astrologer would like to see in the skies at such a time, as this conjunction is thought to bode success for bold moves.
Which makes me wonder -- is Obama being counseled by someone who is paying attention to astrology? He could have signed it on Sunday or Monday, but he waited until Tuesday.
Let's see if he signs it in the morning, and how close to the exact time of the conjunction. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 588144
2/19/2009 4:49 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Interesting outlay OP, but which country or countries will be at war with the US and what'll happen to Europe ? Anything to say about that? Thanks.
No, sorry. I have limited tools. I have not studied the charts of most other nations enough to be satisfied the correct birthtimes are known.
IMO, the biggest single reason that astrology has such a poor reputation today, and why it seems to often show a poor track record, is that far too often, people are working with the wrong birthtimes.
The birthtime is everything. Without it, even if you have the time of birth narrowed down to an hour or two, you lose 90% of your ability to make accurate predictions except in the most vague and general terms.
Its just a matter of sloppy work, really. This field doesn't attract many of the best people, those who actually have the skills necessary to excel in it, and most of those who are attracted to it are not serious people. They lack discipline, and a great many of them lack simple common sense as well.
But if this publicly-conducted experiment is successful, that will all change. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 608906
birthtime is nothing without location. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618447
2/19/2009 5:10 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
It doesn't SEEM, it was done that way on purpose to leave it open later for correctness.
If this astrologer were any good they would tell you the specifics concerning topics as applied to what the trasition of the planets are as well as what house those transitions take place.
They should be able to be more specific.OP... you prediction is so general and unspecific that it seems almost any event could make you correct. Quoting: Cunning_linguist |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618447
2/19/2009 5:14 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
A good astrologer should be able to correct any time deviances in a birth chart to get closer approximations to the correct birth time.
USA is July fourth 1776, with the first signature on the constitution as the correct time of the birth of that nation.
Even a hoarary chart can help you to make better time adjustments. Interesting outlay OP, but which country or countries will be at war with the US and what'll happen to Europe ? Anything to say about that? Thanks.
No, sorry. I have limited tools. I have not studied the charts of most other nations enough to be satisfied the correct birthtimes are known.
IMO, the biggest single reason that astrology has such a poor reputation today, and why it seems to often show a poor track record, is that far too often, people are working with the wrong birthtimes.
The birthtime is everything. Without it, even if you have the time of birth narrowed down to an hour or two, you lose 90% of your ability to make accurate predictions except in the most vague and general terms.
Its just a matter of sloppy work, really. This field doesn't attract many of the best people, those who actually have the skills necessary to excel in it, and most of those who are attracted to it are not serious people. They lack discipline, and a great many of them lack simple common sense as well.
But if this publicly-conducted experiment is successful, that will all change. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 608906 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 619986
2/21/2009 1:49 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Yep. Solid gold Bullshit OP. Markets fall over 300 pts. and the day isn't over yet. Sure sounds like a steady rise to me.
First comes the bill getting approved, then comes the rise. I didn't say anything about what the markets would do before the bill got accepted. Quoting: op nli 608906
Yep. That stock market is on some kind of rise isn't it OP?
Moron. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 621473
2/23/2009 4:15 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Damn hellofa rise there OP. Markets plunge over 200 points and it doesn't look good for tomorrow either.
Better re-shuffle those star charts and look again, cause you assed this reading up pretty good.
Your silence is telling.......... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 621473
2/24/2009 4:12 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
What?
You are not going to come in and say "Astrologer Right" again? Scared to hang your hat on a dead cat bounce?
Face it. You FAIL. |
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op nli
User ID: 471789
2/24/2009 4:22 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
USA is July fourth 1776, with the first signature on the constitution as the correct time of the birth of that nation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618447
The US Constitution was signed in 1787, and the nation was in existence long before that.
The first vote on independence occurred on July 2 1776.
The July 2 vote was just on the wording of the document announcing the July 2 vote.
That being said, obviously this experimental chart does not predict the movements of the stock market. However, the market is not the nation. We will see if the other predictions the chart makes come true or not.
September will tell the tale. |
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op nli
User ID: 471789
2/24/2009 4:32 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
The July 2 vote was just on the wording of the document announcing the July 2 vote. Quoting: op nli 471789
That should have been
The July 4 vote was just on the wording of the document announcing the July 2 vote. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 621473
2/25/2009 8:43 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
USA is July fourth 1776, with the first signature on the constitution as the correct time of the birth of that nation.
The US Constitution was signed in 1787, and the nation was in existence long before that.
The first vote on independence occurred on July 2 1776.
The July 2 vote was just on the wording of the document announcing the July 2 vote.
That being said, obviously this experimental chart does not predict the movements of the stock market. However, the market is not the nation. We will see if the other predictions the chart makes come true or not.
September will tell the tale. Quoting: op nli 471789
But back in your other thread [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
You say "No freaking way I'm gonna share this until my book is done and I've already made my money in the stock market. If I released my data and the world realized that the stock market can be accurately pre-timed, what do you think that'd do to the market? It'd collapse it totally, if everyone was buying and selling on the sale schedule.
No, I'll never mention that bit publicly. But I will publish my book about how the chart's relation to our nation's history and character, and what it predicts for our future.
But regarding it being a lens into the future behavior of the market? No, I'll never mention that anywhere except in this thread here, which will soon be forgotten by all."
Sounds like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. It would stand to reason that if the chart is wrong about the markets, then it is wrong about the Nation. Oh, and by the by, some of us visit other forums and I noticed how your comment about Yellowstone not going to erupt seems to stem from some bs time traveler named Zeshua. Mixing metaphors are we?
Busted buddy. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 621473
2/27/2009 4:11 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Quite the meteoric rise you predicted there OP. Is that the sound of you trashing your charts?
Epic FAIL |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618123
2/28/2009 7:10 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Everyone knows the shit's gonna get bad this year. The only questions are when, and how bad.
I remain convinced that this year's biggest and worst turning point will arrive in late August or September, and will last a few months at least.
How bad will it get? Even Ross Perot is gonna be having a hard time then. George & Barbara Bush's lives are going to be turned upside down, and George HW Bush is going to suffer great sadness and loss. Laura Bush is depressed and afraid then, Jimmy Carter is confused and disoriented, and Hilary Clinton is shocked and confused. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618123
2/28/2009 7:20 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
It would stand to reason that if the chart is wrong about the markets, then it is wrong about the Nation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 621473
The chart indicated great wealth, abundance, and generosity now. That turned out to be the huge stimulus package passing. I had hoped it would also be the markets going up, but even though we are acting like we have alot of money, we are not making alot of money.
The time is too short. There is not enough time to get this published before the markets finish their collapse. I will soon post all my research online for free in hopes that it will be of some help. I will post the link here when it is up.
Yes, I have many interests. They all point to the same end. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 621473
3/2/2009 10:45 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
It would stand to reason that if the chart is wrong about the markets, then it is wrong about the Nation.
The chart indicated great wealth, abundance, and generosity now. That turned out to be the huge stimulus package passing. I had hoped it would also be the markets going up, but even though we are acting like we have alot of money, we are not making alot of money.
The time is too short. There is not enough time to get this published before the markets finish their collapse. I will soon post all my research online for free in hopes that it will be of some help. I will post the link here when it is up.
Yes, I have many interests. They all point to the same end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618123
Bullshit.
You stated emphatically that it would be the markets going up AFTER the passage of the stimulus package. Your words are clear and you are trying to backpeddle now. This proves you and your chart are full of sheep dip.
Go sulk in your corner. Post your "research" if you want, but who in their right mind would even give it a minor look after your public display of incompetence.
EPIC FAIL |
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sparkoflife
User ID: 616754
3/18/2009 4:24 AM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
Failed Predictions
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sparkoflifemedia.com |
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omnipadme007
User ID: 617084
3/20/2009 1:13 PM | | Re: America's Horoscope for 2009 | Quote |
 I think OP is on to something. Astrology isn't exact, but it definitely paints a picture worth looking at. |
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