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Minot AFB Puzzle is SOLVED. *WARNING* If you live in OREGON, ARIZONA, OR GUAM, GET OUT!

 
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5/2004

Weston Kissel of Tennessee graduates from the Air Force Academy as 2nd Lieutenant Kissel, United States Air Force (USAF).
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At 18, Adam Barrs of South Sioux City, Nebraska enlists in the United States Air Force out of high school.

2/2005

Being a communications navigation mission systems journeyman, Airman Barrs is promoted to Senior Airman and assigned to the 5th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron at Minot Air Force Base, where he is responsible for maintenance and troubleshooting on B-52H Stratofortresses.

Note: The Minot 5th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron is also one of the units that are responsible for loading and unloading weaponry onto the B-52H Stratofortresses.

3/2006

19-year old Todd Blue of Wythevilla, Virginia enlists in the United States Air Force.

7/2006

1st Lieutenant Weston Kissel is assigned to the 23rd Bomb Wing at Minot Air Force Base as a pilot of the B-52H Stratofortress.

8/2006

Airman First Class Todd Blue, USAF, is stationed to Minot Air Force Base of North Dakota as a response force member, immediately assigned to the 5th Security Forces Squadron where he will undertake his responsibilities, including that of security of nuclear weapons, under Squadron Commander Lt. Col John Worley.

3/2007

The United States Air Force begins to transport the AGM-129 missiles from Minot AFB, North Dakota, to Barksdale AFB, Louisiana, on their way to Tucson, ARIZONA for disposal. The missiles are carried by B-52H.

3/14,15/07

General Moseley, Air Force Chief of Staff, pays visit to Minot Air Force Base.

6/2007

Colonel Robert D. Critchlow is transferred from the Pentagon to Minot AFB and appointed commanding officer for the 91st Operations Group, a missileer unit and the operational "backbone" of the 91st Space Wing. In Washington, D.C., he was posted into Air Force Nuclear Response and Homeland Defence.

Colonel Myron L. Freeman is transferred from Japan to Minot AFB and appointed as the commander of the 91st Security Forces Group.

Colonel Gregory S. Tims is appointed as deputy commander of the 91st Space Wing after being transferred to Minot AFB from California almost a year before.

Colonel Bruce Emig is transferred to Minot AFB from Ellsworth in South Dakota and becomes commander of the 5th Bomb Wing as well base commander of Minot Air Force Base itself.

Colonel Cynthia M. Lundell is transferred from a NATO post in Western Europe to Minot AFB, becoming commander for the 5th Maintenance Group, responsible for loading and unloading weaponry onto the B-52H Stratofortresses.

6/15/07

President George W. Bush meets senior Minot AFB officers at USAF Base McConnell in Wichita, Kansas during a visit to Boeing's Integrated Defense the personnel from Minot are reported. However, reports have been made of meetings between military families and the U.S. President in his office aboard Air Force One.

7/03/2007

Senior Airman Adam Barrs, 20, is involved in a car crash on the outskirts of Minot. Helpless in the passenger seat, he watches as the driver, a 20-year old Airman Stephen Garrett, fails to negotiate a curve, hitting the approach at high speeds, leading the vehicle directly into a tree. The vehicle starts on fire.

Barrs is pronounced dead at the scene. Garrett, in critical condition, is taken to Minot Trinity Hospital. There have been no updates regarding Stephen Garrett since.

7/17/07

1st Lieutenant Weston Kissel, 28-year old B-52H pilot of Minot AFB, dies in reported motorcycle accident while on leave in Tennessee.

8/25/07

Captain John Frueh, assigned to Air Force Special Operations Command at Hurlburt Field, Florida, reportedly flies to PORTLAND, OREGON to attend the wedding of a childhood friend.

8/29/07

8:00 A.M. - Crew from Minot Air Force Base prepares 12 AGM-129 missiles, all of which were supposedly assumed to be "dummy," training warheads, for transport to Barksdale AFB via B-52H Stratofortress. 6 missiles are loaded onto each pylon, which will in turn be placed under each wing.

Instead of being loaded with 12 "dummies," 6 of the missiles on the aircraft contain actual, nuclear warheads. Each of which carry a "dialable," 150-kiloton W80-1 warhead, for a combined total of 60- times the destructive power of the bomb that landed on Hiroshima in 1945.

9:25 A.M. - Somehow, after a supposed inspection, both of the missile-loaded pylons, including that which contains 6 nuclear warheads, receive proper clearance and approval for attachment to the B-52H aircraft.

9:30 A.M. - Air Force Captain John Frueh last seen taking a walk through Portland's Nob Hill in a blue coat. His possessions reportedly included a backpack containing a cell phone, video camera, and GPS locator.

5:25 p.m. - 8 hours later, the crew at Minot AFB finishes loading the pylons onto the B-52H.

The aircraft, with the missiles loaded, now remains parked at Minot AFB for 15 straight hours. Left overnight without any sort of guard as required for such weapons, 6 nuclear warheads sit unattended.

8/30/07

8:00 A.M. - One of the aircraft's flight officers, whose name is also is reportedly and presumably unknown, signs the B-52H's cargo manifest despite the presence of actual nuclear weapons on the aircraft.

Despite his responsibility to do so, the B-52H command pilot fails to do a final verification check before departure.

8:40 A.M. - The B-52H Stratofortress departs Minot Air Force Base, ND for Barksdale AFB, LA with 6 nuclear warheads attached to it's wing.

Depending on the route flown, the warheads "waft" for 3 hours over:

North Dakota and
either South Dakota or Minnesota,
Nebraska or Missouri,
Oklahoma or Arkansas,
and Louisiana.

Note: No U.S. aircraft has ever been armed with this many nuclear weapons before this day.

11:23 A.M. - The B-52H lands at Barksdale Air Force Base.

Once again, the aircraft remains parked for over 9 hours without a special guard.

12:28 p.m. - USAF Captain John Frueh reportedly phones his family from the area of Mill Plain Boulevard and I-205 in Vancouver, Washington.

8:30 p.m. - A Barksdale munitions team arrives to remove the AGM-129 missiles from the B-52H. A crewmember notices something unusual about the cargo.

10:00 p.m. - A supervisor determines that actual nuclear warheads are present; orders them to be secured and the incident to be reported.

It is still unknown to the public as to how many warheads were found on the aircraft at the time of their discovery by the Barksdale ground crew. The Air Force claims five to six were present, while some theorists say as few as zero were still attached to the B-52H.

8/31/07

USAF Chief of Staff, General T. Michael Moseley, contacts U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, presumably to inform him about the incident. After Gates requests daily updates on the incident, he then contacts President of the United States, George W. Bush.

As of March of 2008, the U.S. Air Force has yet to officially designate what type of incident actually occurred. Only that it was a "mistake," or an "accident."

9/4/07

Captain John Frueh is reported missing in the PORTLAND area after failing to arrive in Florida like his family had expected.

Portland authorities and F.B.I. initiate a public search for the 33-year old special operations vet. This is strange, however. The U.S. Air Force would not let a missing persons' investigation go forward by police without conducting its own investigation. Why the F.B.I. got involved so quickly is also extremely curious.

9/5/07

The Minot Nuclear Incident story is first released to the public by Military Times after being leaked by military servicemen, ruining the federal government's hopes for a lack of press on the subject.

Air Force and Department of Defense officials are quoted as boldly stating that there was "no press interest anticipated."

During a news briefing at the Pentagon on the same day, Press Secretary Geoff Morrell states that "at no time was the public in any danger."

9/6/07

Commander of Air Combat Command, General Ronald Keys, appoints Major General Douglas Raaberg, Air Combat Director of Air and Space Operations, to investigate the incident.

9/7/07

General Russell Elliot Dougherty dies at his home in Falcon Landing military retirement community, located in Arlington, VA, from an apparent suicide.

General Dougherty was once one of the most senior individuals responsible for the nuclear arsenal of the U.S. military, commander of Strategic Air Command, and also director of the Joint Strategic Target Planning Staff which, among its responsibilities, identified worldwide nuclear targets.

Along with those responsibilities, Dougherty had specialized in issues pertaining to Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD), the multiple uses for nuclear weaponry, Nuclear Supremacy for the United States and, lastly, tackling the effects of wind and weather - due to their unpredictable natures - on the use of nuclear weapons.

9/8/07

The body of Captain John Frueh, USAF, is discovered in the woods near Badger Peak, south-central Washington. He is found near an abandoned vehicle parked on Forest Service Road 2816, which he reportedly rented a week or so earlier.

The only information ever provided regarding Frueh's death was that foul play was "not suspected." David Cox, Skamania County Undersheriff, said he could "give no further details on how the Air Force captain died."

9/10/07

At the age of 20, Airman First Class Todd Blue dies while on leave with his family in Virginia.

To this day, no information regarding Todd Blue's death has been released.

9/14/07

Air Combat Command halts all air operations to "review procedures." The Minot specialists who carried out the nuclear loadout are temporarily "decertified" from handling the weapons.

1:00 p.m. - Secretary of the Air Force Michael Wynne arrives at Minot AFB to personally investigate the storage, protection, and handling of nuclear weapons there. Air Force officials do not allow any base access to the media during this visit.

A Munitions Squadron commander is supposedly relieved of command.

9/15/07

Senior Airman Clint Huff, belonging to the 26th Operational Weather Squadron, Air Force Special Operations in Barksdale, LA, dies with his wife in a motorcycle accident when a small SUV collided with them.

9/17/07

General John Abizaid, while speaking at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, states, "We need to press the international community as hard as we possibly can, and the Iranians, to cease and desist on the development of a nuclear weapon, and we should not preclude any option that we may contain to deal with it."

9/20/07

Defense Secretary Robert Gates asks for an outside investigation of the Minot Nuclear Incident to be conducted, but instead of requesting an independent, non- military researcher to perform the task, Gates asks former USAF Chief of Staff Larry Welch to do the investigating.

10/15/07

Vigilant Shield 2008 (VS-08), to be conducted over North America and the Northern Pacific Ocean, is a large-scale military exercise, designed to deal with a "terrorist" or "natural disaster scenario in the United States.

Expecting to end on October 20, these war games are being conducted by the Pentagon and the Department of Homeland Security, amidst mounting U.S. pressures and threats to actually declare a "real war" on Iran.

PRIMARY EXERCISE VENUES FOR VS-08 INCLUDE LOCATIONS IN OREGON, ARIZONA, AND THE TERRITORY OF GUAM

7/21/08

A B-52 stationed out of Barksdale AFB, LA crashes off the coast of GUAM, killing all 6 crew members on board.

The aircraft and crew were deployed to Guam with the 20th Expeditionary Bomb Squadron, as part of the U.S. military's continuous bomber presence mission in the Pacific.

THE AIR FORCE HAS BEEN ROTATING B-1, B-2, AND B-52 BOMBERS THROUGH GUAM SINCE 2004

10/05/08

Bombers from Barksdale AFB, LA deploy to Andersen AFB, Guam.

This is nothing new. Andersen and Barksdale are commonly referred to as "sister bases," especially with the rotating B-52H Squadrons between the two.
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The point is:

Surrounding the incident ( [link to www.envirosagainstwar.org]

were the deaths of many USAF servicemen ( [link to joerihan.blogspot.com]

who were somewhat connected to the Minot incident, via bases, assignments, or dates.

But honestly, there's only one death that truly "leaves the breadcrumbs":

USAF Captain John Frueh ( [link to blog.oregonlive.com]

Special Ops, AFSOC, in which a primary responsibility is the capture of nuclear weapons.

Frueh disappeared in the Portland, Oregon area, and was later found dead just across the river in Washington.

So here we are, OREGON.


Now, the missiles that were to be destroyed were ultimately heading to Arizona, where the final "decommissioning" would be:

"Due to reliability and high maintenance costs, the Air Force decided that its 460 ACMs weren’t worth holding on to. For those with sharp memories, ACMs were the inadvertent guest star in last year’s errant shipment of nuclear warheads from Minot to Barksdale AFB, La. – the missiles in question were on their way to the “Boneyard” in Tucson, Arizona for decommissioning. The Air Force moved to retire the ACMs in 2007 and cut the 1,140-strong AGM-86 Air Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM) inventory by more than 500 – leaving the service with 528 nuclear cruise missiles"

And here's the link for that:
[link to www.armscontrolwonk.com]


So the list is now:

OREGON
ARIZONA


Finally, Barksdale AFB is consistently rotating B-52 squadrons with Andersen AFB, Guam. In fact, three crashes have taken place off the coast ( [link to www.pacificnewscenter.com]

in the name of the U.S. Military's growing bomber presence in the Pacific.

So from Barksdale to Andersen, we can add GUAM to the list:

OREGON
ARIZONA
GUAM


Lastly, here's the link to Vigilant Shield, a 2007 war game. Check out the targets picked out for this exercise!

(Link: [link to www.pacificfreepress.com]

VS-08 is a large scale military exercise to be conducted over North America and the Northern Pacific Ocean, extending westwards towards the Far East borders of Russia and China:

"USNORTHCOM’s primary exercise venues for VS-08 include locations in Oregon, Arizona and a cooperative venue with USPACOM in the Territory of Guam. NORAD’s aerospace detection and defense events will take place across all the exercise venues, to exercise the ability to mobilize resources for aerospace defense, aerospace control, maritime warning, and coordination of air operations in a disaster area." (PNC, October 2007)


Questions, comments, BS flags? Feel free.
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Thread: If you live in Oregon, Guam, or Arizona...GET OUT.

Link to the first thread, which contains only the most basic of links and description.

Just in case you want it.
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Can't read.. Just give us the gist, eh?
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Questions, comments, BS flags? Feel free.
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Why is everyone in those states in danger exactly?
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Can't read.. Just give us the gist, eh?
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No problem. My second post pretty much sums it up, and the third is a link to the first thread, which is fairly (though, I would say TOO) simple.
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Interesting. Good timeline thingy. Thanks.
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Questions, comments, BS flags? Feel free.


Why is everyone in those states in danger exactly?
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The plausible destinations for the "lost" nuclear warheads include (but aren't necessarily limited to)

Oregon, where AFSOC Captain John Frueh's body was found. After research, I would bet that he had quite a bit to do with the taking of the unattended warheads. OREGON.

Arizona is where the missiles were ultimately headed to be destroyed.

Guam is consistently rotating B-52H aircraft with Barksdale AFB, where the original incident took place.


And ultimately, the 2007 American war game, run by the Pentagon and the Dept. of Defense, picked those exact locations as targets for exercise "terrorist" attacks.

Puzzle pieces fit, I'd say.
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OP, I followed your first thread on the nuclear bomb bust.

Your title here states that the puzzle is solved.

How so?
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Interesting. Good timeline thingy. Thanks.
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Thanks for the feedback.

The entire incident is much easier to grasp when looking at it chronologically, I'd say.
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OP, I followed your first thread on the nuclear bomb bust.

Your title here states that the puzzle is solved.

How so?
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I would say that the puzzle is either solved or very close to being solved, due to the evidence provided by the three locations which plausibly contain warheads/were treated as "terrorist targets" in recent war games.
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very well put together. Thanks!

No BS, just
1. Minot puzzle not solved. I have more questions now, like WTF is really going on?
2. Are you inferring something about Oregon, Arizona or Guam. The connection is weak.

So, your speculation is that somehow TPTB are going to nuke oregon and arizona?
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OP...are you equating these things done from 2004 -2008 as being harmful so that...as your heading states..."if you live in oregon, arizona or guam, get out"...wouldn't it be too late...if there was nuclear accident or on purposes?
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very well put together. Thanks!

No BS, just
1. Minot puzzle not solved. I have more questions now, like WTF is really going on?
2. Are you inferring something about Oregon, Arizona or Guam. The connection is weak.

So, your speculation is that somehow TPTB are going to nuke oregon and arizona?
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No problem.

1. True, I suppose it isn't SOLVED. My mistake on labeling the thread. Apologies.

2. My inference is that the areas of Oregon, Arizona, and Guam are in danger of nuclear attack/dirty bomb/etc.

My inference is drawn from

a) The most plausible destinations of the "lost" nuclear warheads from the Minot-Barksdale incident.

b) The pattern drawn from those plausible destinations, and the destinations chosen by the Pentagon and Department of Defense to be "attacked" by "terrorists" during the Vigilant Shield exercise in 2007.

They are the same locations.
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OP...are you equating these things done from 2004 -2008 as being harmful so that...as your heading states..."if you live in oregon, arizona or guam, get out"...wouldn't it be too late...if there was nuclear accident or on purposes?
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No, no. But I do see where the misconception arose.

Nothing harmful has necessarily happened to the three locations, but I do believe that those locations will be attacked via false flag operation which sprouted from the Minot-Barksdale incident, 10/29,30/07.
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bump

Call me egotistical :P

I do think this is pretty important, though.
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Some kick-ass work there OP. bump
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Some kick-ass work there OP. bump
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Thanks. I'd love to get this out there for people to think about.

Pin? Hmm?

Pin!?
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My inference is drawn from
b) The pattern drawn from those plausible destinations, and the destinations chosen by the Pentagon and Department of Defense to be "attacked" by "terrorists" during the Vigilant Shield exercise in 2007.

They are the same locations.
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it's quite possible you're correct in that those were the targeted for "terrorist attack" while training...when is the only question then if it's true...which one wouldn't know until after the fact.
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No, no. But I do see where the misconception arose.

Nothing harmful has necessarily happened to the three locations, but I do believe that those locations will be attacked via false flag operation which sprouted from the Minot-Barksdale incident, 10/29,30/07.
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time will tell. i like your thinking and always have.
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My inference is drawn from
b) The pattern drawn from those plausible destinations, and the destinations chosen by the Pentagon and Department of Defense to be "attacked" by "terrorists" during the Vigilant Shield exercise in 2007.

They are the same locations.

it's quite possible you're correct in that those were the targeted for "terrorist attack" while training...when is the only question then if it's true...which one wouldn't know until after the fact.
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I suppose that's true. Sad thought, really.

But hey! If it's true, the more of us that realize it, the more pleasant company we'll find in the FEMA camps!

:-D
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I'm with you, OP, but only to a certain extent.

I do believe that those warheads are in play now, but I wouldn't be so sure that they're confined to the three areas that you mentioned.

Ever watched Jericho?
"It can be held certain that information that is withheld or suppressed contains truths that are detrimental to the persons involved in the suppression."
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which one wouldn't know until after the fact.

I suppose that's true. Sad thought, really.
But hey! If it's true, the more of us that realize it, the more pleasant company we'll find in the FEMA camps!

:-D
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quite pleasant company. strange all the deaths that followed the original incident. that to me...makes me wonder most what secrets were having to be kept.
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I'm with you, OP, but only to a certain extent.

I do believe that those warheads are in play now, but I wouldn't be so sure that they're confined to the three areas that you mentioned.

Ever watched Jericho?
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I haven't actually. Should I check it out?

True, there are most likely more locations, and I honestly think Blackwater may be a part of it. But that's neither here nor there regarding this specific thread.

Do you see where I got those three locations, though?
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wonder if those warheads could be used "accidently" in iran/syria/pakistan/lebanon/north korea/other...
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which one wouldn't know until after the fact.

I suppose that's true. Sad thought, really.
But hey! If it's true, the more of us that realize it, the more pleasant company we'll find in the FEMA camps!

:-D

quite pleasant company. strange all the deaths that followed the original incident. that to me...makes me wonder most what secrets were having to be kept.
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Definitely true. Given, I am sure at least one of them is a "normal" death. But I honestly had to include nearly all of them to get the point on the table, you know?

Like, each of them can individually be explained. But it's just the fact that all those deaths are there, and in that time frame, that makes one question what's going on.
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adding blackwater into the equation makes it a bit more...hmmmm possible in both the "deaths" and the accidental not counting of warheads...it could also take the equation to other countries use of warheads...highest bidder.
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wonder if those warheads could be used "accidently" in iran/syria/pakistan/lebanon/north korea/other...
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Oh, I'm sure. Though, I'm partial to believing at least one would happen here. Everyone would blame the "terrorists" without giving it a second thought.

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adding blackwater into the equation makes it a bit more...hmmmm possible in both the "deaths" and the accidental not counting of warheads...it could also take the equation to other countries use of warheads...highest bidder.
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Absolutely! Not to mention Frueh, as well as some of the other deceased servicemen, were prime target market for recruiting, being special operations and all.

If that were the case, we could throw Georgia in the mix for having received a weapon. Or at least having one dropped there.
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Ahem, pin?

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Ahem, pin?

Let's get more thought on this.
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