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During the U.S presidential campaign, Barack Obama’s handlers vigourously pointed out his Christian faith whenever the misconception arose he may be Muslim (even though the politically correct response should have been his religion doesn’t matter).

The handlers also roundly denounced any conservative commentator who might mention (mischievously, admittedly) his Arabic middle name, Hussein.

They charged that such usage was "fear mongering."

Once elected, however, he personally insisted on his middle name being spoken at his swearing-in ceremony.

And now – in a gesture to the Muslim world – he has not only granted the first sit-down interview of his presidency to a pan-Arab television network, but uses the occasion to gush about his Muslim ties.

"I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim countries," Obama tells Hisham Melhem,
the Washington bureau chief of Saudi-owned Al Arabiya, which is based in Dubai.

Indeed, Obama’s Kenyan father, Barack Sr., was born into a Muslim family – though he became an atheist before arriving in Hawaii, where Obama Jr. was later born.

Obama also famously spent four years as a boy in Indonesia – the world’s most populous Muslim country.

All that’s fine, except why was no one allowed to talk much about it before he snagged the Electoral College majority?

Obama’s unprecedented decision to shun American domestic networks over his first sit-down appeared aimed at sending a signal to the Muslim world that his administration marks a distinct break with that of George W. Bush.

Like we didn’t get that message from his pledge to close the detention camps at the U.S. Guantanamo Bay naval base in Cuba without so much as a plan for where he’ll transfer its terror suspects.

But much of the interview, broadcast Tuesday, offered troubling stuff for anyone who believes the West isn’t to blame for the Islamic world’s wrath.

Obama agreed with Melhem’s inference that Bush’s use of terms like "war on terror" and "Islamic fascism" demonized all Muslims.

"I think you’re making a very important point, and that is the language we use matters …" Obama said.

"We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith’s name."

True. But there was nothing particularly Bushist about the "war on terror" term, and a helpful Wikipedia entry explains how it dates at least to the 19th century.

Obama confirmed he intends to address the Muslim world from a Muslim capital during the first 100 days of his presidency, but resisted Melhem’s bid to know which one.

Of course, the smart money is on the Indonesian capital of Jakarta, while you can pretty much rule out Baghdad.

"You're going to see me following through with dealing with a drawdown of troops in Iraq, so that Iraqis can start taking more responsibility," he said.

Obama explained he is going to educate people in both the United States and the Muslim world on how to get along.

"My job is to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see their children live better lives," he said.

"My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy."

So that’s the simple formula we’ve been we’ve been missing. Stay tuned to the new president for a couple of deftly worded, and theatrically delivered speeches – and centuries of Western-Islamic division will miraculously disappear.

Citing Iran’s threats towards Israel, and its "pursuit of a nuclear weapon," Obama said the Islamic republic had "acted in ways that [were] not conducive to peace and prosperity."

"But I do think it is important for us to be willing to talk to Iran," he added.

Better hurry. Iran will have enough uranium to make a single nuclear weapon later this year, the prestigious International Institute for Strategic Studies said Tuesday at the launch of its annual global review of military powers.

The fact is there have been plenty of talks, incentive packages and UN Security Council resolutions calling on Iran to curb its nuclear ambitions.

After the interview was broadcast Tuesday, Iran responded to the "extended hand" Obama said he was offering the Islamic republic.

"We are awaiting concrete changes from new U.S. statesmen," said an Iranian government spokesman. "On several occasions our president has defined Iran’s views and the need for a change in U.S. policies."

Even by Obama’s account, there will be no effective "change in U.S. policies." Washington and the West will still want to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear bomb. Hence, don’t expect Tehran to see the offer of "more diplomacy" to be anything more than a gift of the time they still need to perfect the nuclear process.

Key parts of Obama’s interview to the Muslim world were a collective mea culpa.

"We sometimes make mistakes; we have not been perfect," he said as one explanation as to why there is so much hate in the Muslim world for the United States.

In other words, it’s America’s and, by extension, the West’s fault we’ve been under attack these past years.

He offered a similar apology when explaining his instruction to George Mitchell, the former Senator he appointed to begin seeking a solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

"What I told him is start by listening, because all too often the United States starts by dictating …" he said. "So let’s listen."

Oddly, the interviewer Melhem came across as the most honest of the pair when he admitted that, throughout the Muslim world, there was a "demonization of America" that’s become "like a new religion" – complete with "converts and high priests."

That’s the sort of reality Obama needs to get his head around – instead of saying the equivalent of: "We’re wrong, you’re right."

[link to network.nationalpost.com]
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so , why is this a bad thing.
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Wow I guess this is for the people who missed him admitting all of this in 07.

[link to firstread.msnbc.msn.com]

"My father was from Kenya,” he said, “and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn’t practice Islam. Truth is he wasn’t very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I’ve always been a Christian. The only connection I’ve had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father’s side came from that country. But I’ve never practiced Islam."

More: "For a while, I lived in Indonesia because my mother was teaching there. And that’s a Muslim country. And I went to school. But I didn’t practice. But what I do think it does is it gives me insight into how these folks think, and part of how I think we can create a better relationship with the Middle East and that would help make us safer is if we can understand how they think about issues."


and again here in Jan 08

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"My father was a Muslim and although I did not know him well the religion of my father and his family was always something I had an interest in. This interest became more intense when my mother re-married an Indonesian Muslim man. As a small child, I lived in Indonesia and attended school alongside Muslim pupils. I saw their parents dutifully observing the daily prayers, the mothers covered in the Muslim hijab, the change of atmosphere of the school during Ramadan, and the festiveness of the Eid celebrations."

"The man my mother was married to was not particularly religious; but he would attend the mosque on occasion, and had copies of the Quran in different languages in the home, and books of the sayings and life of the Prophet Muhammad. From time to time he would quote Islamic phrases such as "no one truly believes until he wants for his brother what he wants for himself", "oppression is worse than slaughter", and "all humans are equal the only difference comes from our deeds".

"Growing up in Hawaii with my mother and her grandparents Islam largely escaped my mind. My mother installed in me the values of humanism and I did not grow-up in a home were religion was taught."

"It was later while I attended college at Columbia University and Harvard Law that I became reacquainted with Muslims as both schools had large Muslims student populations. Some of them were my friends and many came from countries that our nation now has hostile relations with. The background I had from my early childhood in Indonesia helped me get to know them and learn from them and to me Muslims are not to be looked upon as something strange. In my experiences up until college a Muslim was no less exotic to me than a Mormon, a Jew, or a Jehovah's Witness."
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so , why is this a bad thing.
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In itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Dont we have freedom of religion in this country anyways?
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Interesting points to be found here. While I expected some for of attempted raprochmant I hardly thought it would be quite this fast or in this fashion. When Barack gets his nose bloodied so to speak by the Muslim nations perhaps his perspective will change somewhat.
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Dont we have freedom of religion in this country anyways?
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Absolutely! See above post
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so , why is this a bad thing.

In itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay
 Quoting: mathetes



well , Fox news never felt it was off limits .

mike savage railed on this every day .

every one in my office always felt he was a muslim
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Dont we have freedom of religion in this country anyways?
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5a

Of course we do until ones religion requires the abrogation of the US Constitution for them to be religiously molified!
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I dont care if he worships plastic toys, as long as he does a good job.
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I noticed the same thing. I guess this year its hip to be Muslim and Christianity was all the rage last year. Obama isnt presidential material. He is an actor who acts whatever part the people he is around want him to act.
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so , why is this a bad thing.

In itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay
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Let me get this straigh. Are you saying that no one was trying to use Obamas name to make people think he was muslim or a terrorist supporter? I need to know what you think before I respond.

No one used his name to trick less informed people into thinking he was a practicing muslim?
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so , why is this a bad thing.

In itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay



well , Fox news never felt it was off limits .

mike savage railed on this every day .

every one in my office always felt he was a muslim
 Quoting: Bigboat

Don't worry..they have plans for the people you mentioned
Wait until they bring back the Fairness Doctrine...Savage will off the air and Fox will kowtow..Less than 2 yrs from now this will happen
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I noticed the same thing. I guess this year its hip to be Muslim and Christianity was all the rage last year. Obama isnt presidential material. He is an actor who acts whatever part the people he is around want him to act.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 563342


and you are an idiot. He is trying to set new terms with these people. Dubya fucked us over big time over there. Get a clue.
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so , why is this a bad thing.

In itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay



well , Fox news never felt it was off limits .

mike savage railed on this every day .

every one in my office always felt he was a muslim
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Excuse math he must not watch the MSM because this was covered heavily. Off limits my ass I have videos of Rep. rallies where it was mentioned over and over. Should I post these?
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"Suddenly"?

Where you been for the past year?
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so , why is this a bad thing.

In itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay



well , Fox news never felt it was off limits .

mike savage railed on this every day .

every one in my office always felt he was a muslim

Don't worry..they have plans for the people you mentioned
Wait until they bring back the Fairness Doctrine...Savage will off the air and Fox will kowtow..Less than 2 yrs from now this will happen
 Quoting: mathetes

Then in two years can I come on here and call you a fear mongering piece of shit when it does not.
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yeah, i don't recall that there was ever any denial over obama's muslim family members, or the fact that he spent time in muslim countries.
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Alright math you want to be a troll I will post all the videos of the Rep rallies where they spoke about this over and over and over......
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so , why is this a bad thing.

In itself its not.But during the election this was OFF limits or you were "fear mongering." But its a new day now,he's in power so its okay



well , Fox news never felt it was off limits .

mike savage railed on this every day .

every one in my office always felt he was a muslim

Excuse math he must not watch the MSM because this was covered heavily. Off limits my ass I have videos of Rep. rallies where it was mentioned over and over. Should I post these?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 404735

Sure, I'd love to see them! How many times did McCain bring it up?
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stevie is smiling in his cell knowing mathetes is keeping the hate alive on glp!
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Obama DID want it downplayed during the campaign. Remember how he moved muslim women in headscarves out of the background in some of his event photos? He definently didn't want his high standing in the American muslim community to be mentioned during the election. How often were muslimsa in Dearborn interviewed?
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As a solid supporter of Obama throughout the election process I can tell you that it was obvious to those of us who were aware that the whole Muslim connection was being played down by both the party and the campaign for obvious reasons. While there was no denial of his Muslim background likewise there was no attempt to garner votes by highlighting it either.
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This unfolding of events is so predictable.

Really all one needs in order to understand what's going
on is a basic knowledge of the ol' 'bait and switch' routine.

It does not hurt to understand the concept of 'hidden in plain sight' either.

Politics as usual, except, this time the stakes are high.

Americans and the world in general are almost ripe
to accept Global governance and draconian control.

No big deal huh?
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just charge obama with funding terrorists and giving them aid.. that would be a start. Why else would he be sucking up to muslim nations/terrorists ? Answer: so his muslim brothers will help him destroy the USA and become dictator..
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OP, you and millions of other Americans have been duped.

We have been warned previously the intent of muslims and you chose to ignore it. Thats the reason we have the right to free speech and to keep and bear arms.
Barak has decidely overwhelmed you with his charisma and MUZAK style and we all have to deal with it.

We have a 50-50 chance of overcoming this and I say deal with it.


There are day before 911 and day after 911 Americans. You chose to be the day before person.

SORRY

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just charge obama with funding terrorists and giving them aid.. that would be a start. Why else would he be sucking up to muslim nations/terrorists ? Answer: so his muslim brothers will help him destroy the USA and become dictator..
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Whether he's a bleeding heart or a closet Muslim, I think it's time to start impeachment proceedings. His actions in his first week alone have been disgraceful.
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As a solid supporter of Obama throughout the election process I can tell you that it was obvious to those of us who were aware that the whole Muslim connection was being played down by both the party and the campaign for obvious reasons. While there was no denial of his Muslim background likewise there was no attempt to garner votes by highlighting it either.
 Quoting: ANNONYMOUS 546346

Played down would be a bit of an understatement, now played up might fit his Christian image. What about the number of his own "Fight the smears" references to all Obama-Muslim connections? How about the Sheriff in Florida who merely called him Barack Hussein Obama and swiftly was investigated by the FBI? I agree with the article, that it went beyond downplay, it was off limits and enforced as such.

So now he's like Mr Muslin roots and in his first week of foreign policy activity he practically gushing toward the most Islamic fundamentalist nations ie Iran?...C'mon...it reeks of hypocrisy. Also the more moderate Arab nations such as Saudi Arabia were non to pleased with his very friendly overtures toward Iran, was it really the wisest move to act all apologetic? Does he know how that will be viewed by all the Islamic nations? or is he displaying his lack of experience....again. Cause right now as far as I can see for results we have one of the most radical and aggressive nations telling us we're gonna have to say we are sorry and one of our more moderate allies pissed off.
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Whether he's a bleeding heart or a closet Muslim, I think it's time to start impeachment proceedings. His actions in his first week alone have been disgraceful.
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