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mathetes User ID: 514914 United States 01/28/2009 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Qaeda does not exist and never has Quoting: Anonymous Coward 601896So who did Egyptian Islamic Jihad merge with in June of 2001? Maybe Egyptian Islamic Jihad never existed either? Go back to sleep For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 576944 United States 01/28/2009 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember reading about osama back in 96 in readers digest. He was a cia asset back then and allegedly turned on his 'handlers'. Never a mention about al kada. Its taliban now. It used to be soviets. Who do we blame to control millions of acres of dope? The colombians never deviated from the line. Afghanis did. Think of it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 576944 United States 01/28/2009 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Qaeda does not exist and never has Quoting: mathetesSo who did Egyptian Islamic Jihad merge with in June of 2001? Maybe Egyptian Islamic Jihad never existed either? Go back to sleep So you have intimate knowledge of this terrorist cell? I'm happy you spelled it right twice in a row. The egyptians call it islamic jihad? At least before you guys came up with middle eastern sounding names. Are they incorporated? Publically traded? You own stock? Or do you know what was cavalierly paraded in certain publications? You think there has never been a problem created in order to create an easily solvable solution? It never works though. |
mathetes User ID: 514914 United States 01/28/2009 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Qaeda does not exist and never has Quoting: Anonymous Coward 576944So who did Egyptian Islamic Jihad merge with in June of 2001? Maybe Egyptian Islamic Jihad never existed either? Go back to sleep So you have intimate knowledge of this terrorist cell? I'm happy you spelled it right twice in a row. The egyptians call it islamic jihad? At least before you guys came up with middle eastern sounding names. Are they incorporated? Publically traded? You own stock? Or do you know what was cavalierly paraded in certain publications? You think there has never been a problem created in order to create an easily solvable solution? It never works though. You can live in your little CT world for all I care,but it does not change the facts Egyptian Islamic Jihad or otherwise known as the Liberation Army for Holy Sites is/was an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood and this org. did merge with Al Qaeda in 2001 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554725 Canada 01/28/2009 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Qaeda does not exist and never has Quoting: mathetesSo who did Egyptian Islamic Jihad merge with in June of 2001? Maybe Egyptian Islamic Jihad never existed either? Go back to sleep lol Mathetes you silly Israeli. Quick to downplay the OP's original post I see? Let's play your game: Why Did Israel under Ariel Sharon say their was a Al Qaeda cell in the Gaza strip? Why is it that the Palestinian police arrested agents related to Mossad that were patsy Al Qaeda "fake" operatives? Care to answer? Or perhaps you'd like to explain why in more than one occasion "Tim Osman Laden" wore a golden ring? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554725 Canada 01/28/2009 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is it that Mathetes an Israeli Jew that used to work with the Mossad by the name of "Rita Kitz" is the one who western media get their daily dose of "Al Qaeda vidoes" When there is the FBI, CIA, NSA, and so many different intelligence service througout the world? Care to answer? How does she have an exclusive access to these "Al Qaeda" videos before any other intelligence services are able to get a hand of them? I'm I going over your head? Do I need to dumb it down for you and explain to you what you already know to be the truth? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 603073 United Kingdom 01/28/2009 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Egyptian Islamic Jihad or otherwise known as the Liberation Army for Holy Sites is/was an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood and this org. did merge with Al Qaeda in 2001 Quoting: mathetesThe use of the Muslim Brotherhood by MI6 and the CIA in Egypt, Syria and Iran The Chicago Sun-Times reported, 28 November 2005: [link to www.suntimes.com] Egypt, the world's most populous Arab country, is suddenly roiling with a wide-open, combative election that seems certain to end with the country's main Islamic group, the banned Muslim Brotherhood, as a big winner. The country's rulers, longtime American allies, are starting to show signs of panic: Police have barred voters from polls and thugs have attacked Brotherhood supporters in recent days in an apparent effort to blunt the group's growing momentum. Even before the final round of voting Thursday, Brotherhood loyalists have increased their seats in parliament fivefold. That's not enough to unseat the ruling party, but is still seen as a slap to President Hosni Mubarak. The following is taken from [link to www.redmoonrising.com] Prior to World War II British Intelligence cultivated ties with the Brotherhood through agent Freya Stark, the British adventurer and writer (1). These covert connections were used to keep track of the growing German presence in North Africa and to stay informed of the many different political movements that were springing up. The Muslim Brotherhood spread throughout the Muslim world and has evolved into something like a Muslim equivalent of the West's Masonic brotherhood. It became one of the first Islamic Fundamentalist terror organizations... "According to CIA agent Miles Copeland, the Americans began looking for a Muslim Billy Graham around 1955... When finding or creating a Muslim Billy Graham proved elusive, the CIA began to cooperate with the Muslim Brotherhood, the Muslim mass organization founded in Egypt but with followers throughout the Arab Middle East... This signalled the beginning of an alliance between the traditional regimes and mass Islamic movements against Nasser and other secular forces." (1) The CIA was following the example of British Intelligence and sought to use Islam to further its goals. They wanted to find a charismatic religious leader that they could promote and control and they began to cooperate with groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood. With the rise of Nasser the Brotherhood was also courted more seriously by the pro-Western Arab regimes of Saudi Arabia and Jordan. They needed all the popular support that they could muster against the rise of Nasser-inspired Arab nationalism to keep their regimes intact. The Muslim Brotherhood was an obvious ally against Nasser, because he had abolished it from Egypt after it was involved in a failed assassination attempt on his life in 1954. The Brotherhood rejected Nasser's policy that, for the most part, kept religion out of politics. Officially the Brotherhood was an outlawed organization, but it remained influential and active within Egypt working against the secular regime, often hand-in-hand with British Intelligence. In June of 1955 MI6 was already approaching the Brotherhood in Syria to agitate against the new government that showed strong left-wing tendencies and a desire to merge with Egypt (2). The Brotherhood became an even more important asset after Nasser announced the Egyptian takeover of the Suez... In Syria, in 1982, there was a major conflict between the Muslim Brotherhood and the Syrian government at the city of Hamma that resulted in 20,000 casualties. In the aftermath Syria's President Asad revealed that the Muslim Brotherhood forces were armed with US-made equipment... Israel, forever inclined to back divisive movements, surfaced as another supporter of Islam and began to fund the Muslim Brotherhood and the Palestinian Islamic movement Hamas." (8) The most noteworthy success of the Islamic movement during this time was of course the overthrow of the Shah of Iran and the installation of the Ayatollah Khomeini as the Islamic dictator. British Intelligence had used their contacts with Iran's mullahs and ayatollahs to help overthrow Mossadegh and install the Shah back in 1953, and these contacts were maintained and used again to overthrow the Shah when his regime fell out of favor. The Establishment history of Iran's Islamic Revolution is that Khomeini's revolt was spontaneous and populist, and that it overthrew a repressive dictatorship that was hated by the people but supported wholeheartedly by the United States. It is true that the Shah's government was not a democracy and that his secret service, trained by the CIA, was one of the most effective intelligence organizations in the world. But what is not reported is that prior to the British-sponsored massive public relations campaign on behalf of the Ayatollah the government of the Shah was loved by the vast majority of the population. After taking over from Mossadegh the Shah began to push forward a number of nationalist policies that increased his popularity at home but, in some cases, worried the Anglo-American Establishment. First, he signed petroleum agreements with ENI, the Italian oil company. Then in 1963 he pushed forward on a series of popular reforms that became known as the White Revolution. The Shah evolved into a nationalist whose path paralleled that of Nasser far too much for the Establishment's liking: - He bought land from the upper classes and, along with the crown's own land, sold it back cheaply to tenant farmers, allowing over one a half million people to become land owners and ending the old feudal system. - He allowed women the right to vote, and brought an end to the wearing of the veil, which were "Westernizing" moves unwelcomed by the religious sector. - He pushed forward on a $90 billion nuclear power program. - He moved to shut down the lucrative opium industry that had been created during the days of British Empire control that had been running for a hundred years. (9)... The attack on the Shah's government came through the Muslim Brotherhood and through the mullahs and ayatollahs of Iran, supported and manipulated by British Intelligence... Dr. John Coleman, a former British Intelligence agent... states in his report on Iran's Islamic Revolution (11) that the Muslim Brotherhood was created by "the great names of British Middle East intelligence" ...and that their mission was to "keep the Middle East backward so that its natural resource, oil, could continue to be looted..." Dr. Coleman writes that in 1980 the broadcasts of Radio Free Iran divided the enemies of the Shah into four categories: 1. Iranian politicians bought by the Israeli Shin Bet, 2. The CIA's network of agents, 3. The feudal landowners, 4. The Freemasons and the Muslim Brotherhood (viewed as the same enemy). In his report Dr. Coleman writes that in Iran, "At one time there was even a joke about the mullahs being stamped 'made in Britain.'" When the Shah introduced his plan for modernization in 1963 the Ayatollah Khomeini emerged as the leader of the religious opposition. Up until his exile from Iran in 1964, Khomeini was based at the religious city of Qom. Dr. Coleman relates that Radio Free Iran claimed that while at Qom Khomeini received a "monthly stipend from the British, and he is in constant contact with his masters, the British." Notes [link to www.redmoonrising.com] ~ It would seem that the UK and US military like governments to be fundamentalist because then things are easier to control. [link to aangirfan.blogspot.com] |
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Normal Is Subjective User ID: 603050 Canada 01/28/2009 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Qaeda does not exist and never has Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518Did an American even hear the words “Al Qaeda” before 9-11? Yes. Any that were paying the least bit of attention to the news over the previous several years. Apparently that's not you. Did any realize it's a state-creation, apparently run amok, when in reality, it's "performing" brilliantly, as per specs? I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit. |
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watchdog User ID: 466967 United States 01/28/2009 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why would al-queda rush to Iraq to fight military forces when clearly their supposed goal is "terrorism", an affront against civilians to cause enough fear to change policies that would benefit their constituency. The FIRST place they would have engaged would have been US soil once again! Not a head on assault against the most equipped armed forces the world has ever known in a country where insurgents are already defensively engaging them. Yes, as through this world I've wandered I've seen lots of funny men; Some will rob you with a six-gun, And some with a fountain pen. And as through your life you travel, Yes, as through your life you roam, You won't never see an outlaw Drive a family from their home. |
Normal Is Subjective User ID: 603050 Canada 01/28/2009 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why would al-queda rush to Iraq to fight military forces when clearly their supposed goal is "terrorism", an affront against civilians to cause enough fear to change policies that would benefit their constituency. The FIRST place they would have engaged would have been US soil once again! Not a head on assault against the most equipped armed forces the world has ever known in a country where insurgents are already defensively engaging them. Quoting: watchdogAwkward point for some, but a good one. I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit. |
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