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Will an apology be forthcoming? "UN Admits: IDF Didn't Hit School

During the Cast Lead operation in Gaza, IDF tank fire near a United Nations school in Gaza was blamed for the deaths of dozens of civilians who had taken refuge in the building. The incident became one of the most highly publicized attacks in the war, and led to heavy international criticism.

Recent reports suggest that the incident was not accurately portrayed by senior U.N. officials. John Ging, the director of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) in Gaza, spoke to the Toronto Globe and Mail last week and agreed that no shell had actually struck the school building. Ging said he had never claimed that the school itself was hit, and he blamed Israel for confusion over where the strike took place.

Shortly after the alleged attack, Ging harshly criticized Israel for firing near the school, saying he had given the exact coordinates of the compound to the IDF. He charged that the IDF had failed to avoid hitting the building.

While admitting that Israeli fire had not hit the school compound, Ging insisted it made little difference. “Forty-one innocent people were killed in the street... The State of Israel still has to answer for that,” he said.

While many Israel news outlets reported that the strike had taken place near the school, several international media networks reported that the UN school building itself was hit. The U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs may have added to the confusion by releasing a report stating that Israeli fire “directly hit two UNRWA schools.”

Almost all reports said that the victims were primarily civilians who had fled to the school for shelter – a version of events cast into suspicion by the Globe and Mail report.

A teacher who was in the school at the time of the shelling reported that several people within the compound were injured, but that none were killed. Those killed were all outside in the street as the shells were fired, he said. Only three of those killed were students at the school, he added.

The teacher did not give his name, explaining that U.N .officials had told staff not to talk to the media.

The IDF responded to criticism over the attack by explaining that soldiers were simply responding to terrorist fire and did not mean to hit a civilian area.

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For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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While admitting that Israeli fire had not hit the school compound, Ging insisted it made little difference. “Forty-one innocent people were killed in the street... The State of Israel still has to answer for that,” he said.
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Will an apology be forthcoming?
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While admitting that Israeli fire had not hit the school compound, Ging insisted it made little difference. “Forty-one innocent people were killed in the street... The State of Israel still has to answer for that,” he said.


Will an apology be forthcoming?
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Any apology with white phosphorous on top!
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Yat the school was hit indeed and all those kids were killed. This is another ploy and propeganda to make Israel look good after a lot of pressure from the Zio.nists in UN.
It won't do any good. Israel is done for.
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While admitting that Israeli fire had not hit the school compound, Ging insisted it made little difference. “Forty-one innocent people were killed in the street... The State of Israel still has to answer for that,” he said.


Will an apology be forthcoming?
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Already did..."Top israeli leaders have apologised and assured me two days ago that UN premises would be fully respected"

[link to english.aljazeera.net]
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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...its called damage control....too late for that!
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Yat the school was hit indeed and all those kids were killed. This is another ploy and propeganda to make Israel look good after a lot of pressure from the Zio.nists in UN.
It won't do any good. Israel is done for.
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Zionists in the UN? LOL Your funny or a moron


UN-acceptable censorship: The United Nations tries to outlaw criticism of Islam

The measure did pass

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For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Already did..."Top israeli leaders have apologised and assured me two days ago that UN premises would be fully respected"

[link to english.aljazeera.net]
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Yet Israel will continue the sorts of rules of engagement which resulted in such a massive loss of innocent life. No repentance, just an empty apology.

You seem to think that mere words show proof of contrition. They do not. It takes more than words.
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Already did..."Top israeli leaders have apologised and assured me two days ago that UN premises would be fully respected"

[link to english.aljazeera.net]


Yet Israel will continue the sorts of rules of engagement which resulted in such a massive loss of innocent life. No repentance, just an empty apology.

You seem to think that mere words show proof of contrition. They do not. It takes more than words.
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Try reading the article

Several international media networks reported that the UN school building itself was hit. The U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs may have added to the confusion by releasing a report stating that Israeli fire “directly hit two UNRWA schools.

They lied
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Try reading the article

Several international media networks reported that the UN school building itself was hit. The U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs may have added to the confusion by releasing a report stating that Israeli fire “directly hit two UNRWA schools.

They lied
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Try reading my message. You are focused on someone lying, and ignoring how many deaths? What's worse to you, Mathetes? Lies, or the deaths of almost 4 dozen innocent people?

You are Israel's whore, Mathetes. Your entire moral fiber has been compromised.

I chose my words specifically -- CONTRITION. Do you know what that word even means?
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Yat the school was hit indeed and all those kids were killed. This is another ploy and propeganda to make Israel look good after a lot of pressure from the Zio.nists in UN.
It won't do any good. Israel is done for.
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Yes it is all propaganda of the dark forces, the dracon forces
They are the antichrist forces and want to destroy Christ and Christ ministries.
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What is Justice? But not Justice in a Babylonian way, not in a humans way.

Real true Justice will come, but not in the way like people expect it.
Real divine Justice.
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Antizionists are in fact Babylonians.
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Antizionists are in fact Babylonians.
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Your adolescent understanding of the Bible is laughable.

You believe Israel can do no wrong because of a Book written thousands of years ago. You believe in a God who would support a nation no matter what evils it does.

And you think that makes you a Christian?
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Not only Palestenian will suffer, more nations will suffer and the whole planet will suffer under the stupid actions of humans.
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Antizionists are in fact Babylonians.


Your adolescent understanding of the Bible is laughable.

You believe Israel can do no wrong because of a Book written thousands of years ago. You believe in a God who would support a nation no matter what evils it does.

And you think that makes you a Christian?
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From where do you have this knowlegde.


Only Jesus Immanuel Christ defines what is a Christian.
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So you mean this never happened?

[link to www.guardian.co.uk]
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Try reading the article

Several international media networks reported that the UN school building itself was hit. The U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs may have added to the confusion by releasing a report stating that Israeli fire “directly hit two UNRWA schools.

They lied


Try reading my message. You are focused on someone lying, and ignoring how many deaths? What's worse to you, Mathetes? Lies, or the deaths of almost 4 dozen innocent people?

You are Israel's whore, Mathetes. Your entire moral fiber has been compromised.

I chose my words specifically -- CONTRITION. Do you know what that word even means?
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Anyone that supports Israel is a Zionist,right?

Then you are a muslim lapdog that has your ass up in the air on a prayer rug
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While admitting that Israeli fire had not hit the school compound, Ging insisted it made little difference. “Forty-one innocent people were killed in the street... The State of Israel still has to answer for that,” he said.


Will an apology be forthcoming?


Any apology with white phosphorous on top!
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Math,
Fools such as the one quoted here don't care for truth. Remember Jennin? They hate God and every thing of God.
Blind hatred is leaching thru the world like mold in dough. I can't help but laugh as people willingly ignore truth to search for some pie in the sky humanistic understanding.
Sadly, most won't understand till they are face to face with their creator. By then it's too late.
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[link to www.timesonline.co.uk]
several schools were hit...
Camera footage from one such attack shows what appears to be white phosphorous raining down on a UN school in Beit Lahiya, where Red Crescent ambulances and their crews were stationed.
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Spanish court to probe Israeli officials for alleged 'crimes against humanity'
Madrid Court grants motion by Palestinian group to probe several senior defense officials for their involvement in 2002 hit on Hamas operative Salah Shehade; which left 14 dead, 100 wounded. Defense minister calls announcement 'delusional', says he will do all in his power to have charges dropped
Roni Sofer and AFP
Latest Update: 01.29.09, 18:18 / Israel News
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Spanish FM: We'll act to prevent war crimes probes against Israel
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent, Haaretz Service and The Associated Press
Tags: israel news, gaza civilians

Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Moratinos informed Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni on Friday of Spain's plan to amend legislation that granted a Spanish judge the authority to launch a much-publicized war crimes investigation against senior Israeli officials.

Judge Fernando Andreu launched an investigation Thursday into seven current or former Israeli officials over a 2002 bombing in Gaza that killed a top Hamas militant, Salah Shehadeh, and 14 other people, including nine children.

The judge acted under a doctrine that allows prosecution in Spain, and other European countries, to reach far beyond national borders in cases of torture or war crimes. The universal jurisdiction ruling sparked outrage in Israel and elsewhere.
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Spanish state television TVE quoted government sources as saying the possibility of a legal "adjustment or modification" would not be retroactive and would not affect the case before the courts.

"I just heard from the Spanish Foreign Minister Moratinos, that Spain has decided to change its legislation in connection with universal jurisdiction and this can prevent the abuse of the Spanish legal system," Livni told the Associated Press. "I think this is very important news and I hope that other states in Europe will do the same."

"Legal systems around the world have been exploited by cynics whose sole purpose is to hurt Israel," Livni went on to say. "It's good that Spain decided to put an end to this phenomenon."

One of the Israelis the court aimed to investigate on Friday called the charges propaganda. Former military chief of staff Moshe Yaalon told Army Radio that he was not worried about standing trial. Yaalon, now a candidate for parliament for the Likud Party, said the goal of the Spanish court decision was "to delegitimize Israel and present us as war criminals." [link to www.haaretz.com]
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Spanish court to probe Israeli officials for alleged 'crimes against humanity'
Madrid Court grants motion by Palestinian group to probe several senior defense officials for their involvement in 2002 hit on Hamas operative Salah Shehade; which left 14 dead, 100 wounded. Defense minister calls announcement 'delusional', says he will do all in his power to have charges dropped
Roni Sofer and AFP
Latest Update: 01.29.09, 18:18 / Israel News
Address : < [link to www.ynetnews.com]


Spanish FM: We'll act to prevent war crimes probes against Israel
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent, Haaretz Service and The Associated Press
Tags: israel news, gaza civilians

Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Moratinos informed Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni on Friday of Spain's plan to amend legislation that granted a Spanish judge the authority to launch a much-publicized war crimes investigation against senior Israeli officials.

Judge Fernando Andreu launched an investigation Thursday into seven current or former Israeli officials over a 2002 bombing in Gaza that killed a top Hamas militant, Salah Shehadeh, and 14 other people, including nine children.

The judge acted under a doctrine that allows prosecution in Spain, and other European countries, to reach far beyond national borders in cases of torture or war crimes. The universal jurisdiction ruling sparked outrage in Israel and elsewhere.
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Spanish state television TVE quoted government sources as saying the possibility of a legal "adjustment or modification" would not be retroactive and would not affect the case before the courts.

"I just heard from the Spanish Foreign Minister Moratinos, that Spain has decided to change its legislation in connection with universal jurisdiction and this can prevent the abuse of the Spanish legal system," Livni told the Associated Press. "I think this is very important news and I hope that other states in Europe will do the same."

"Legal systems around the world have been exploited by cynics whose sole purpose is to hurt Israel," Livni went on to say. "It's good that Spain decided to put an end to this phenomenon."

One of the Israelis the court aimed to investigate on Friday called the charges propaganda. Former military chief of staff Moshe Yaalon told Army Radio that he was not worried about standing trial. Yaalon, now a candidate for parliament for the Likud Party, said the goal of the Spanish court decision was "to delegitimize Israel and present us as war criminals." [link to www.haaretz.com]
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I ask when did Hamas new election, I never heard that they made new elections since they were elected. So Hamas is dictatorship over the Gazastrip.
The people are so blind fooled by propaganda that they do not realize that Hamas is not at all democratic.
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Anyone that supports Israel is a Zionist,right?

Then you are a muslim lapdog that has your ass up in the air on a prayer rug
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Nice imagery... Do you have homosexual visions often?

I have no use for Islam, Judaism, or Christianity. This has nothing to do with either religion tho. One doesn't have to have a religion in order to be disgusted with Israel's behavior here.

Nor does one need to be religious in order to see that Mathates is a whore for Israel, and is shedding crocodile tears over some misreporting rather than realizing that nearly 4 dozen innocent people being killed outside the building is still reprehensible.
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I ask when did Hamas new election, I never heard that they made new elections since they were elected. So Hamas is dictatorship over the Gazastrip.
The people are so blind fooled by propaganda that they do not realize that Hamas is not at all democratic.
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How much does Israel pay you to post their propaganda?
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Anyone that supports Israel is a Zionist,right?

Then you are a muslim lapdog that has your ass up in the air on a prayer rug


Nice imagery...
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I knew that you would like it.
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Has Israel accomplished six million Palestinians exterminated Yet?

I would also like to know if the Gas they are using to kill Palestinians lately in that walled off holding grounds is similar chemically to what was used in Germany during the 40s or if they have actually improved the technology of gassing Humans to get rid of them.
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Math,
Fools such as the one quoted here don't care for truth. Remember Jennin? They hate God and every thing of God.
Blind hatred is leaching thru the world like mold in dough. I can't help but laugh as people willingly ignore truth to search for some pie in the sky humanistic understanding.
Sadly, most won't understand till they are face to face with their creator. By then it's too late.
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Hating God? That's how you see it, eh?

Here's how I see it... We have no idea whether there is, or is not, a God out there. In terms of epistemology, it is a completely unknowable question. 3000 year old stories are not the least bit convincing to anyone who operates on reason. But what is absolutely true, however, is that human beings wrote those stories -- and like any other thing made by humans, it is flawed. Mankind is imperfect, and so are his creations -- including all religions.

Now, you can pretend that you follow some religion which is perfect. You can pretend that you are certain your religion is the correct one. But all you are really doing is confusing faith and knowledge.

There are Christians who have been killed by Israel's indiscriminate warfare, as well. Not that it should make a difference to you... Unless you follow a god who only respects innocent lives when they are of a particular religion...
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I knew that you would like it.
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Have you had homosexual visions the majority of your life, or do they appear only when you are trying to argue without any use of logic?
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I knew that you would like it.


Have you had homosexual visions the majority of your life, or do they appear only when you are trying to argue without any use of logic?
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You seem quite fixated on using gay sexual terms

Tell me how you were abused as a youngster,I could help you out with your problem


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Will an apology be forthcoming? "UN Admits: IDF Didn't Hit School

During the Cast Lead operation in Gaza, IDF tank fire near a United Nations school in Gaza was blamed for the deaths of dozens of civilians who had taken refuge in the building. The incident became one of the most highly publicized attacks in the war, and led to heavy international criticism.

Recent reports suggest that the incident was not accurately portrayed by senior U.N. officials. John Ging, the director of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) in Gaza, spoke to the Toronto Globe and Mail last week and agreed that no shell had actually struck the school building. Ging said he had never claimed that the school itself was hit, and he blamed Israel for confusion over where the strike took place.

Shortly after the alleged attack, Ging harshly criticized Israel for firing near the school, saying he had given the exact coordinates of the compound to the IDF. He charged that the IDF had failed to avoid hitting the building.

While admitting that Israeli fire had not hit the school compound, Ging insisted it made little difference. “Forty-one innocent people were killed in the street... The State of Israel still has to answer for that,” he said.

While many Israel news outlets reported that the strike had taken place near the school, several international media networks reported that the UN school building itself was hit. The U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs may have added to the confusion by releasing a report stating that Israeli fire “directly hit two UNRWA schools.”

Almost all reports said that the victims were primarily civilians who had fled to the school for shelter – a version of events cast into suspicion by the Globe and Mail report.

A teacher who was in the school at the time of the shelling reported that several people within the compound were injured, but that none were killed. Those killed were all outside in the street as the shells were fired, he said. Only three of those killed were students at the school, he added.

The teacher did not give his name, explaining that U.N .officials had told staff not to talk to the media.

The IDF responded to criticism over the attack by explaining that soldiers were simply responding to terrorist fire and did not mean to hit a civilian area.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
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I suppose they didn't mean to kill those 412 children, and thousands more people, and seriously injuring thousands more children and adults...

I suppose THAT didn't happen.

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