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AMERICA ON THE VERGE OF ECONOMIC COLLAPSE!

 
Pollyannuh
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Oh, joy.

Better stock up on cigarettes, whiskey, and toilet paper.

They may be our next currency.

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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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This would have been funnier if they hadnīt overdone it.
Shadow
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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"America has lost close to 1 million jobs."

Each year since 2001. I wonder if the US unemployment stats include US corporate employees in India and China? They donīt live here but are employed here.
NO ECONOMIST
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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If America goes then so will the rest of the world.IMHO.cow
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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our dollar is worth .75.
Shadow
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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NO ECONOMIST that would seem to be right. US debt is building foreign economies. Makes one wonder who benefits.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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GLP is funnier today than it has been in a long time. Things are looking up.
anoptimist
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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god willing this will happen someday
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Kind of a rabid illogical anti-Americanīs wet dream, huh?
The ONE
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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I can see you smoking and drinking your way to the toilet, EVERY DAY !

WHY ? You didnīt include FOOD or a GUN in your short list. Without the food, disentary will quickly use up that toilet paper; without a GUN, you wonīt DARE let anyone know you have these great luxuries, because when you do, you will ī trade ī your life for the goodies, not food.

By the way, I have seen this nonsence for TOO long.
Imagine you did have food, with little or NO prospect of obtaining more in the next six months.
Do you think youīll trade for wiskey/cigs and HOPE you donīt starve ? Think youīll really be eating THREE meals a day when food is running OUT ?

To me, itīs just LAZY, ī I donīt have to really prepare ī stupidity,from " couch potatoes " fresh from the funny farm.
Eagle # 1
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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AC 2:54 ī Dollar worth .75 cents ! In terms of WHAT year ?
In terms of 1940, dollar is worth LESS than FIVE cents !! I lived that era, and cigaretts were $.18 a pack. I walked a mile and back with a quater to buy the pack for a īhiredī farm worker who couldnīt leave. Got a nickle for my efforts, sometimes. That would buy FIVE LARGE packs of firecrackers from China.

In 1967 terms, dollar is worth LESS than $.09 and has been for several years.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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It Just Doesnīt Matter
Mark M. Rostenko
The Sovereign Strategist
Welcome to the land of milk and honey, America 2005, a wondrous place where problems are no such thing and nothing really matters. Weīre on course for unending growth and military triumphs whenever and wherever we desire them. In our world, houses only increase in value over time, despite the fact that everything within them degrades over time. Interest rates may rise and fall but are destined to remain with a range that makes everything affordable for everyone, always. Weīve reached ultimate economic equilibrium and economic pain & suffering will be relegated to a tiny footnote referencing the charming but improperly managed pre-21st century world.

Am I so off? Before the crowd chimes in with the usual chorus of "Heīs on another one of those hysterical rants," consider the world we really live in.

The dollar has been in decline for years. But weīre told it doesnīt matter. A weaker dollar, according to any Econ 101 textbook "makes domestic goods more competitive in overseas markets." Interesting then, that our trade deficit stands at yet another record high, the gap wider than ever. Apparently foreigners arenīt as much in the market for Britney Spears action figures and "Oprah" magazine as weīd like to think.

The economic brainiacs at CNN/Money, that bastion of cutting edge economic thought and financial insight, stated last November that "manufacturers such as U.S. automakers typically cheer a weaker dollar..."

Tell that to the 8,000 GM workers which will be losing their jobs this year, and joining the tens of thousands who have been canned over the past three years. Four consecutive years of job cuts while the weakening dollar was supposed to sell more cars. Reuterīs reports: "Weak dollar hanging over U.S. automakers." And they DONīT mean that thereīs an abundance of dollars falling from the sky in Detroit.

The trade deficit stands at a record, well beyond the level that would quickly have triggered a panicky flight of assets from just about any other country. The November deficit hit an astounding $60 billion dollars, the biggest deficit ever, in all of history, in any nation. Ever. Period.

But weīre told it doesnīt matter. Treasury Secretary John Snow informs that the huge gaping chasm between imports and exports simply demonstrates that foreigners just plain love us and canīt wait to invest more money in the U.S. Oh, that and the fact that "The economy is growing at such a fast rate that it is generating lots of disposable income... some of which is used to buy goods from our trading partners."

That must be all the disposable income left after the average American family banks its average $80 of savings for the year. I find it fascinating that with all the disposable income this steamy fireball of a recovery is generating, household debt stood at 115.3% of disposable personal income in the third quarter of 2004. Thatīs an all-time high for that figure. Funny that Americans, with a hyper-abundance of disposable income are borrowing to make ends meet.

Never mind, folks. Snow says itīs ok. It doesnīt matter. In the land of milk and honey, debt is wealth, war means peace and a dollar sailing towards hell in the proverbial hand basket is a good thing. Who says George Orwellīs dead?

The budget deficit is at a record high too. And destined to swell still further as our "swift and decisive victory" in Iraq will soon enter another year of multi-billion dollar expenditures. Private foreign investment in U.S. assets is now virtually non-existent relative to the huge inflows of foreign capital we used to see. No one in his right mind invests money in a bankrupt government.

(Foreign governments have been forced to pick up the slack in an effort to keep their currencies from surging higher relative to the dollar. See? It doesnīt matter! Someone will always step in to fix the problem!)

But, like good īol Vice Prez Cheney says, "deficits donīt matter." They donīt matter because as good īol Keynes told us, deficit spending boosts the economy. Apparently itīs true because in the wake of all that deficit spending letīs remember that the economy is "growing at such a fast rate that it is generating lots of disposable income."

Bill Fleckenstein makes some great points for the "nothing matters" issue. "The fact that Google could have a $50 billion valuation is a sign of the times." It doesnīt matter that shares are priced at 240 times earnings. "...I see Fannie Mae at $71, barely flinching after the discovery that the company manipulated their earnings. So, I just shake my head and say, thereīs not one pocket of insanity, itīs everywhere."

Itīs not insanity, Bill. It JUST DOESNīT MATTER in the land of milk and honey where Uncle Al and the merry band of market manipulators can smooth everything over with a soothing word and a lullaby. It doesnīt matter that Fannie Mae is flubbing the numbers because someone will find a way to fix the problem. That is, if there really is one. But there probably isnīt. Because if there was really a problem the market would react. But it hasnīt. So thereīs obviously no problem. Got it?

When nothing matters, when the markets appear unconcerned about any of the frightening imbalances, the contrarian in me has to presume that at some point, EVERYTHING will matter. Perhaps all at once.

Of course, that view wonīt sit well with the general populace and politicians whose infantile attention spans and utter incomprehension of anything that happened before Oprah first got her show on the air, ensure a steadfast faith in the notion that whatever trend has been present for the past few weeks will continue indefinitely into the future.

Stocks are up again and will thus climb forever. The weaker dollar hasnīt hurt us and it never will. Housing will continue to climb forever (just like stocks did in the 90s, plus or minus a few millennia). The twin deficits can continue to expand indefinitely because after all, they havenīt hurt us yet.

The fact is that all these chickens will come home to roost and the complacency present in the markets and the attitudes of the powers that be seem to suggest that roosting will commence sooner rather than later. Longer-term credit markets arenīt spooked by anything anymore. Volatility in the stock market has repeatedly probed multi-year lows. Everybodyīs pricing in the most wonderliscious fantabulous future that anyone could ever hope for. Which is a dreadfully good sign that itīs not especially likely.

How do I reconcile this grim outlook with my relatively benign forecast for 2005? Because Iīve learned not to discount the wildcard of human psychology and the utter and total disregard (perhaps even contempt) the powers that be hold for the future.

Human beings like good news and will continue acting as though all is good for as long as someone tells them that all is good. (Which, along with my vile personality, reprehensible social skills, and devastatingly handsome looks, explains why Iīm not asked to appear on CNBC all that often. In fact never, if memory serves...) Theyīll continue acting as though all is hunky dorey as long as thereīs still some money left to borrow. I donīt know how long that will be, but so far itīs been going on longer than I thought so whatīs another year?

A while back I discussed how the powers that be will do "whatever it takes" to keep this overweighted barge afloat. Greenspan meets every problem with the same solution: more liquidity. Print more money. Easy, easier, easiest money. Whatever it takes, just load up every American with a fistful īoī dollars and send them off to the mall. Flood the markets with liquidity. Never mind the collapsing dollar and a legacy of debt that our children will drown in. Whatever it takes to keep the game going for just a bit longer.

It doesnīt need to be much longer. Greenspanīs likely to retire once this term is up. You think he cares much for his legacy? The man is old enough that heīll likely never see the ultimate fallout. In the meantime, he and his ilk will do whatever it takes to keep things APPARENTLY moving forward, even if itīs at a great expense to the future of this country. Because after all, it just doesnīt matter...

Mark M. Rostenko
The Professor
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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The OP has a good point. The question, as always, "What will trigger the finally slide to oblivion ?"
Housing bubble goes bust/foreign governments DONīT buy our bonds ( i.e. continue to support our deficits)/sudden collapse of stock market/oil is no longer valued in dollars/meteor/asteroid strike. ETC, ETC.

OR, ANY combination of the above. Remember Germany in 1923; MILLION Mark notes , printed on ONE SIDE ONLY, bought a POSTAGE STAMP !!!

Got silver/gold/food/guns and ammo ? No ?
Assume the bent over position and kiss your butt goodbye !
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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BYE BYE MR DOLLAR!!!

RIP!

chorus
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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yoo cann alvays coom too chiina and vee vill feed yoo peenuts.
munkees make good pets, yes.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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salu
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Pimp Daddy
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Iīm going have lots of new workers! Males & trannys welcummed! Iīm an equal oppotunity employer!

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LadyJayne
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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OP --- Link Please?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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And then, the ptb will step in with this wonderful life saver.....take the chip (mark of the beast) and you can buy and sell and survive.

What will you do?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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what about canada!
will help ya all!
dum fucks!!!!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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I googled WWN+michael Chiron, but didnīt see anything about the article...Can anyone help?

[link to www.weeklyworldnews.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Canada is fucked too
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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The new currency will be .22 cal ammo. Stock up now-500round brick about 10 bucks.
mingle-mangle
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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although I do agree that weīre headed for a market correction, and it may even be severe, you have to look at the source of the OPīs article... Weekly World News. Hello!!! This is the type of rag that prints "Aliens ate my baby" as the front page story.

have a chuckle over the hysteria of this article and move on. If this is the type of useless garbage that people on GLP believe, Iīm going to stop visiting this site. Are you all a bunch of dumb housewives?

[link to www.weeklyworldnews.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Did this hilarious article come from the "Weekly World News"? It certainly reads like a WWN article!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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No, Wingle-Wangle, most of them are unemployed psychos.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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canada will invade the U.S and crush thier feeble minds with our under ground military that we have been building for years in anticipation of such an event.
mingle-mangle
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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AC 4:04 ... who are you calling a Wangle??? Show yourself.

Just kidding.

I get my kicks off the lunatic fringe on here, too, and pretty much agree with you. But still, one hopes to see some semblance of intelligence in all the insanity. Thatīs why I pretty much ignore all the Xian stuff... thatīs its own peculiar brand of insanity that seems to be mostly without intelligence.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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Sorry, Mingle-Mangle. I had you confused with someone else.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:11 AM
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BRING IT ON!!!!!
bushfing

but dont be afraid, in my country the unemployment rate is around 20%, but we still have police and education and people arenīt running around killing and looting





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