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ShowMe State of Mind
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2/4/2009 9:29 AM
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Attention Missourians! Missouri Sovereignty!
Posted February 4th, 2009 by OFallonBrent
I just got home from a meeting so I apologize for the late notice.
I got a call from my State Rep today, Cynthia Davis. She is asking for our help. This Wednesday, Feb 4 at 8am she will be putting forward a resolution for Missouri sovereignty. This will be presented in the committee she chairs. She is using the Federal Freedom of Choice Act "which purports to classify abortion as a "fundamental right" equal in stature to the right of free speech and the right to vote - rights that, unlike abortion, are specifically enumerated in the United States Constitution" as the basis for her resolution.
She would like anyone who can make it to speak in support of her resolution. There is a competing resolution that opposes the FOCA but does not have the 10th Amendment language declaring Missouri sovereign. She would like us to make the case for adopting the 10th amendment version.
This will be a great opportunity to stand up for a Missouri liberty issue as well as making friends with a key State Rep. She is also planning on running for State Auditor in 2010.
I know this is late notice, but its as much as I could give you. If anyone can make it to Jefferson City in time, please do.
Here is the text of the resolution.
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House Resolution 212
Whereas, the Tenth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States reads as follows: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."; and
Whereas, the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and
Whereas, the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states; and
Whereas, today, in 2009, the states are demonstrably treated as agents of the federal government; and
Whereas, the Tenth Amendment assures that we, the people of the United States of America and each sovereign state in the Union of States, now have, and have always had, rights the federal government may not usurp; and
Whereas, Barack Obama, President of the United States, has promised that one of the top priorities of his new Administration is to sign into law the "Freedom of Choice Act" which purports to classify abortion as a "fundamental right" equal in stature to the right of free speech and the right to vote - rights that, unlike abortion, are specifically enumerated in the United States Constitution; and
Whereas, the federal Freedom of Choice Act would invalidate any "statute, ordinance, regulation, administrative order, decision, policy, practice, or other action" of any federal, state, or local government or governmental official, or any person acting under governmental authority, that would "deny or interfere with a woman's right to choose" abortion, or that would "discriminate against the exercise of the right...in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information"; and
Whereas, the federal Freedom of Choice Act would nullify any federal or state law "enacted, adopted, or implemented before, on, or after the date of [its] enactment" and would effectively prevent the State of Missouri from enacting similar protective measures in the future; and
Whereas, the federal Freedom of Choice Act would invalidate more than 550 federal and state abortion-related laws, laws supported by the majority of the American people; and
Whereas, the federal Freedom of Choice Act would specifically invalidate the following commonsense, protective laws properly enacted by the State of Missouri :
(1) Section 188.027, RSMo, which requires written and informed consent prior to an abortion;
(2) Section 188.028, RSMo, which establishes the requirements and procedures for the performance of abortions on minors;
(3) Section 188.029, RSMo, which requires a determination of viability prior to an abortion;
(4) Section 188.036, RSMo, which prohibits abortions performed with the intent to use fetal organs or tissue for transplant, experiments, or for money;
(5) Section 188.039, RSMo, which requires a twenty-four-hour waiting period prior to an abortion;
(6) Sections 188.205 and 188.215, RSMo, which prohibits the use of public funds and public facilities in the performance of abortions;
(7) Section 188.250, RSMo, which prohibits aiding or assisting a minor in obtaining an abortion;
(8) Section 197.032, RSMo, which allows hospitals and medical personnel the right to refuse to participate in abortions;
(9) Section 565.300, which creates the crime of infanticide; and
Whereas, the federal Freedom of Choice Act will not make abortion safe or rare, but will instead actively promote and subsidize abortion with state and federal tax dollars and do nothing to ensure its safety; and
Whereas, the federal Freedom of Choice Act will protect and promote the abortion industry, sacrifice women and their health to a radical political ideology of unregulated abortion-on-demand, and silence the voices of everyday Americans who want to engage in a meaningful public discussion and debate over the availability, safety, and even desirability of abortion:
Now, therefore, be it resolved that we, the members of the House of Representatives of the Ninety-fifth General Assembly, hereby declare our sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States; and
Be it further resolved that this resolution serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers; and
Be it further resolved that all compulsory federal legislation which directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions or requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed; and
Be it further resolved that the Missouri House of Representatives further declares
our strong opposition to the federal Freedom of Choice Act and urge the United States Congress to summarily reject it for the following reasons:
(1) It seeks to circumvent the states' general legislative authority as guaranteed under the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution;
(2) It seeks to undermine the right and responsibility of the states and the people to debate, vote on, and determine abortion policy;
(3) The protection of women's health through state regulations on abortion is a compelling state interest that should not be nullified by Congress;
(4) Its enactment would nullify numerous laws of the State of Missouri that the Missouri General Assembly and the people of Missouri strongly support; and
Be it further resolved that the Chief Clerk of the Missouri House of Representatives be instructed to prepare a properly inscribed copy of this resolution for Governor Jay Nixon; Barack Obama, President of the United States ; the President of the United States Senate; the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives; and each member of the Missouri Congressional delegation.
Offered by Representative Cynthia Davis , District No. 19
[link to www.dailypaul.com]
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Lawman
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2/4/2009 9:42 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding...
The New World Order will have all other countries with
their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them.
All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back.
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(Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)...
Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.
~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler
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ShowMe State of Mind
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2/4/2009 9:51 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding...
The New World Order will have all other countries with
their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them.
All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back.
` Quoting: Lawman
Now is the time!!!
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.~Eleanor Roosevelt
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Who Am I?
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2/4/2009 9:52 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding...
The New World Order will have all other countries with
their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them.
All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back.
` Quoting: Lawman
This guy is saying the same thing in every secession thread. |
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Slartybartfast
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2/4/2009 9:52 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
tick tock |
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ANONYMOUS
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2/4/2009 9:58 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
OP IS JUST TRYING TO PUT BULL SHIT THREATS ALL OVER GLP ANY AND IDIOT CAN SEE THIS. CONGRESS WOULD NEVER VOTE TO DIVIDE THIS NATION AND DELUTE THE STREGNTH OF THE UNITED STATES..ANOTHER WASTED POST OP. |
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ShowMe State of Mind
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2/4/2009 10:02 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
OP IS JUST TRYING TO PUT BULL SHIT THREATS ALL OVER GLP ANY AND IDIOT CAN SEE THIS. CONGRESS WOULD NEVER VOTE TO DIVIDE THIS NATION AND DELUTE THE STREGNTH OF THE UNITED STATES..ANOTHER WASTED POST OP. Quoting: ANONYMOUS 607491
I am not the state Rep. that is presenting this bill today. You should read the post before you show your ignorance.
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.~Eleanor Roosevelt
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Anonymous Coward
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2/4/2009 10:03 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
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2/4/2009 10:10 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
OP IS JUST TRYING TO PUT BULL SHIT THREATS ALL OVER GLP ANY AND IDIOT CAN SEE THIS. CONGRESS WOULD NEVER VOTE TO DIVIDE THIS NATION AND DELUTE THE STREGNTH OF THE UNITED STATES..ANOTHER WASTED POST OP.
I am not the state Rep. that is presenting this bill today. You should read the post before you show your ignorance. Quoting: ShowMe State of Mind
Agreed.
But also, you should do a search before posting a new thread.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Not only Missouri, but also Oklahoma, Washington, New Hampshire and Arizona have introduced the same bill. Definitely a coordinated effort, on multiple fronts, by a small group of patriots. |
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ShowMe State of Mind
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2/4/2009 10:15 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
OP IS JUST TRYING TO PUT BULL SHIT THREATS ALL OVER GLP ANY AND IDIOT CAN SEE THIS. CONGRESS WOULD NEVER VOTE TO DIVIDE THIS NATION AND DELUTE THE STREGNTH OF THE UNITED STATES..ANOTHER WASTED POST OP.
I am not the state Rep. that is presenting this bill today. You should read the post before you show your ignorance.
Agreed.
But also, you should do a search before posting a new thread.
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Not only Missouri, but also Oklahoma, Washington, New Hampshire and Arizona have introduced the same bill. Definitely a coordinated effort, on multiple fronts, by a small group of patriots.
Like wise agreed. However each state has their own reason for declaring sovereignty, i.e., Missouri is using the right to life declaration. I am from Missouri and have not read the other proposed bills.
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.~Eleanor Roosevelt
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Anonymous Coward
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2/4/2009 10:19 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
OP IS JUST TRYING TO PUT BULL SHIT THREATS ALL OVER GLP ANY AND IDIOT CAN SEE THIS. CONGRESS WOULD NEVER VOTE TO DIVIDE THIS NATION AND DELUTE THE STREGNTH OF THE UNITED STATES..ANOTHER WASTED POST OP. Quoting: ANONYMOUS 607491
Congress doesn't decide this issue. The states themselves do. DC has nothing to do with it. |
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ShowMe State of Mind
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2/4/2009 10:36 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Missouri also has another bill on the burner...HCR 20 to not allow the North American Union.
FIRST REGULAR SESSION
House Concurrent Resolution No. 20
95TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY
1066L.01I
Whereas, President George W. Bush established the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) of North America, with the nations of Mexico and Canada on March 23, 2005; and
Whereas, this plan is nothing short of revolutionary. As Lou Dobbs put it on his CNN program, it is "an absolute contravention of our law, of our Constitution, every national value."; and
Whereas, this plan sounds like a new innovation, it is not new. It is the next step in a progression of steps that, in a manner very similar to the process used in Europe to supplant individual nations with the European Union, will ultimately lead to the formation of a new government for the United States, the North American Union; and
Whereas, the gradual creation of such a North American Union from a merger of the United States, Mexico, and Canada would be a direct threat to the Constitution and national independence of the United States, and imply an eventual end to national borders within North America; and
Whereas, a White House news release confirmed the continuing existence of the SPP and its "ongoing process of cooperation" on March 31, 2006; and
Whereas, Congressman Ron Paul (who opposed the SPP or any form of North American Union between countries in the Americas) has written that a key to the SPP plan is an extensive new NAFTA superhighway: "nder this new 'partnership', a massive highway is being planned to stretch from Canada to Mexico, through the State of Texas"; and
Whereas, this trilateral partnership to develop a North American Union has never been presented to Congress as an agreement or treaty, and has had virtually no congressional oversight; and
Whereas, state and local governments throughout the United States would be negatively impacted by the SPP/North American Union process, such as the "open borders" vision of the SPP, eminent domain takings of private property along the planned superhighways, and increased law enforcement problems along those same superhighways:
Now, therefore, be it resolved that the members of the House of Representatives of the Ninety-fifth General Assembly, First Regular Session, the Senate concurring therein, hereby urge the Congress of the United States to use all of its efforts, energies, and diligence to withdraw the United States from any further participation in the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America and any other bilateral or trilateral activity, however named, which seeks to advance, authorize, fund, or in any way promote the creation of any structure to accomplish any form of North American Union as herein described; and
Be it further resolved that the Chief Clerk of the Missouri House of Representatives be instructed to prepare properly inscribed copies of this resolution for each member of the Missouri Congressional delegation.
[link to www.house.mo.gov]
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.~Eleanor Roosevelt
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locomotion
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2/4/2009 10:48 AM
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From the write up of that bill, it seems a young woman of child-bearing age would only be trading a Federal Master for a Missouri State Master in terms of reproductive choice.
Maybe that's an improvement, as she would have the option of moving out of such a backward thinking state to another that allows the individual's right to choose about her own reproductive system...
...unless Missouri intends to pass a law prohibiting a pregnant woman from moving over state lines and out of their legal grasp.
You never know to what lengths some people will go to control others they look down upon as lesser citizens.
If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately. ~Thomas Paine
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ShowMe State of Mind
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2/4/2009 10:57 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
From the write up of that bill, it seems a young woman of child-bearing age would only be trading a Federal Master for a Missouri State Master in terms of reproductive choice.
Maybe that's an improvement, as she would have the option of moving out of such a backward thinking state to another that allows the individual's right to choose about her own reproductive system...
...unless Missouri intends to pass a law prohibiting a pregnant woman from moving over state lines and out of their legal grasp.
You never know to what lengths some people will go to control others they look down upon as lesser citizens. Quoting: locomotion
I have to agree that the issue that Missouri is using to claim sovereignty is one of a hot topic.
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.~Eleanor Roosevelt
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Nailer45
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2/4/2009 11:08 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
OP IS JUST TRYING TO PUT BULL SHIT THREATS ALL OVER GLP ANY AND IDIOT CAN SEE THIS. CONGRESS WOULD NEVER VOTE TO DIVIDE THIS NATION AND DELUTE THE STREGNTH OF THE UNITED STATES..ANOTHER WASTED POST OP. Quoting: ANONYMOUS 607491
Congress has no power over it the states actually have power over the FEDS so go do some research. |
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Lawman
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2/4/2009 11:10 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
tick tock Quoting: Slartybartfast
You said it!
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(Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)...
Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.
~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler
:damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
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locomotion
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2/4/2009 11:12 AM
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I have to agree that the issue that Missouri is using to claim sovereignty is one of a hot topic. Quoting: ShowMe State of Mind
Having had the debate portion of this program settled for me in the sixties, there is no further debate involved.
I am FOR choice, not FOR abortion.
No intention to redirect this thread to that subject, but it needed to be pointed out that that is the basis for the proposed legislation.
I appreciate your forbearance, and thanks for posting this information.
If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately. ~Thomas Paine
I've been dead before. ~Spock, The Unknown Country (PEACE) |
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Lawman
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2/4/2009 11:13 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding...
The New World Order will have all other countries with
their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them.
All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back.
`
This guy is saying the same thing in every secession thread. Quoting: Who Am I? 598218
Does everyone understand what I am saying though?
The Union has to work together on this. A single state (country) would be VERY vulnerable.
The people of the states have to fix themselves before the state can do anything.
During the whole history of the United States people have been led around like sheep.
In example, there are only 2 state constitutions that were not installed by referendum.
Please trust me on this...
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(Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)...
Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.
~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler
:damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
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Slider..
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2/4/2009 11:19 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Hmmm, ya don't suppose the reason "They" have
continually compared Obama to Lincoln is because
They knew all these States would be opting for
Sovereignty ??
Seems to me the same thing happened back in the
middle of the 1800's..
If'n i remember right Lincoln had a big part
in that one, think they called it a Civil War..
round & round we go..
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 475532
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2/4/2009 11:21 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding...
The New World Order will have all other countries with
their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them.
All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back.
`
This guy is saying the same thing in every secession thread.
Does everyone understand what I am saying though?
The Union has to work together on this. A single state (country) would be VERY vulnerable.
The people of the states have to fix themselves before the state can do anything.
During the whole history of the United States people have been lead around like sheep.
In example, there are only 2 state constitutions that were not installed by referendum.
Please trust me on this...
` Quoting: Lawman
the time for trust is over Lawman. Our western system is under assault and the federal government is playing right into their hands. |
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Lawman
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2/4/2009 11:22 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Hmmm, ya don't suppose the reason "They" have
continually compared Obama to Lincoln is because
They knew all these States would be opting for
Sovereignty ??
Seems to me the same thing happened back in the
middle of the 1800's..
If'n i remember right Lincoln had a big part
in that one, think they called it a Civil War..
round & round we go..
.. Quoting: Slider.. 607535
THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT!!!
They were flaunting that the program of what started at that time is continuing.
Of course Obama is just a NWO Butt-Puppet.
See this link [link to www.notmygovernment.us]
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(Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)...
Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.
~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler
:damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
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Anonymous Coward
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2/4/2009 11:23 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Funny, Show Me State of Mind -- goes from TOTAL BERG FAIL over Obama, to this; has no clue to US laws or actions, does she? Nope. Get back to high school, bitch. |
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locomotion
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2/4/2009 11:52 AM
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Funny, Show Me State of Mind -- goes from TOTAL BERG FAIL over Obama, to this; has no clue to US laws or actions, does she? Nope. Get back to high school, bitch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 605613
And might I suggest a civility course for you Coward?
Your argument is undermined by your personal attack.
If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately. ~Thomas Paine
I've been dead before. ~Spock, The Unknown Country (PEACE) |
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OneAngryMom
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2/4/2009 11:58 AM
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Funny, Show Me State of Mind -- goes from TOTAL BERG FAIL over Obama, to this; has no clue to US laws or actions, does she? Nope. Get back to high school, bitch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 605613
*sigh*
ya know?.....I just get so tired of AC's bullying and name calling for the sake of their ego.
Would it even have crossed your mind to just state an observation or opinion without the name calling? "Show Me" doesn't strike me as a "bitch".......YOU, however.....
well
do you even LIVE in Missouri?
I do
and am pretty curious about all of this conversation.....
seriously....would you mind just leaving the conversation to those who have something even remotely mature to offer? |
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Anonymous Coward
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2/4/2009 11:59 AM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Funny, Show Me State of Mind -- goes from TOTAL BERG FAIL over Obama, to this; has no clue to US laws or actions, does she? Nope. Get back to high school, bitch.
And might I suggest a civility course for you Coward?
Your argument is undermined by your personal attack. Quoting: locomotion
That's an ad hominem. The validity of the argument does not depend upon the civility of my statement. |
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Anonymous Coward
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2/4/2009 12:00 PM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Funny, Show Me State of Mind -- goes from TOTAL BERG FAIL over Obama, to this; has no clue to US laws or actions, does she? Nope. Get back to high school, bitch.
*sigh*
ya know?.....I just get so tired of AC's bullying and name calling for the sake of their ego.
Would it even have crossed your mind to just state an observation or opinion without the name calling? "Show Me" doesn't strike me as a "bitch".......YOU, however.....
well
do you even LIVE in Missouri?
I do
and am pretty curious about all of this conversation.....
seriously....would you mind just leaving the conversation to those who have something even remotely mature to offer? Quoting: OneAngryMom
If it were for the sake of ego, one wouldn't be anonymous. |
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OneAngryMom
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2/4/2009 12:03 PM
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Did you get the point?
Do you understand?
Is it some kind of fun game to you to just be rude?
If you just want to pick a fight by using intimidation....please quit hijacking this thread and go somewhere else so those of us who would LIKE to have a conversation can do so without your rude insults.
Do you even LIVE in Missouri? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 605613
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2/4/2009 12:05 PM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
Did you get the point?
Do you understand?
Is it some kind of fun game to you to just be rude?
If you just want to pick a fight by using intimidation....please quit hijacking this thread and go somewhere else so those of us who would LIKE to have a conversation can do so without your rude insults.
Do you even LIVE in Missouri? Quoting: OneAngryMom
I live in the United States. And this is one of a series of posts, put up by morons, who have no clue to the US or their State. They make claims which were way to exaggerated based upon -- nothing. Seriously. Study history and you will see -- this doesn't count as anything. |
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Anonymous Coward
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2/4/2009 12:06 PM | | Re: Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | Quote |
I am known on this board too, but I wouldn't refer to a fellow seeker as you did...the fact is, not all have come to the same conclusion you have. Some appear to be vacillating and inconsistent because their search is still ongoing. one can be of two minds about a great many things.
the objective of becoming godlike isn't to have all your switches flipped either fully on or fully off, but to allow others to slowly move their own switches to their natural positions and allow them to self tune.
just a bit more patience, please...its just a good policy. |
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OneAngryMom
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2/4/2009 12:17 PM
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Did you get the point?
Do you understand?
Is it some kind of fun game to you to just be rude?
If you just want to pick a fight by using intimidation....please quit hijacking this thread and go somewhere else so those of us who would LIKE to have a conversation can do so without your rude insults.
Do you even LIVE in Missouri?
I live in the United States. And this is one of a series of posts, put up by morons, who have no clue to the US or their State. They make claims which were way to exaggerated based upon -- nothing. Seriously. Study history and you will see -- this doesn't count as anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 605613
wow
what do you charge per hour? I have several things in my life that you clearly have the wherewithal to understand and solve, sight unseen! You must be amazingly talented to be able to see right through others motives and have enough insight to determine what everyone else in the world needs to know that apparently you alone have the answer to! It's awesome to know that I never have to ask another question again as long as I consult you (and your company?), study a bit of history to collect your point of view, and just get on with my life!
Gosh...those other 10 or so posts about the other states taking similar action to Missouri must have entirely escaped my eyesight and/or ability to "click" on those links! I never would have realized that there was ANY exaggeration on this site without your helpful guidance.
I'm almost 50 and the family genealogist and it would have never occurred to me that history was something I should study or pay attention to! Thanks for that TIP!
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locomotion
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2/4/2009 12:21 PM
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Funny, Show Me State of Mind -- goes from TOTAL BERG FAIL over Obama, to this; has no clue to US laws or actions, does she? Nope. Get back to high school, bitch.
And might I suggest a civility course for you Coward?
Your argument is undermined by your personal attack.
That's an ad hominem. The validity of the argument does not depend upon the civility of my statement. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 605613
No personal remarks there Coward. Your lack of civility was noted, and there was no personal (to the man) attack.
In civil discourse, name calling really doesn't add any weight to the argument, and makes questionable the maturity and intelligence of the name caller, and their ability to fully understand their own stance, which then calls into question the point of proceeding with the discourse.
If you desire debate or discourse, leave off with name calling.
If you desire a free for all, just to see who can be ruder, by all means call names.
If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately. ~Thomas Paine
I've been dead before. ~Spock, The Unknown Country (PEACE) |
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