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Zionists will never establish the New Jerusalem, Israel or Kingdom of God in the material world, without first achieving it spiritually in the heart

 
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Zionists will never establish the New Jerusalem, Israel or Kingdom of God in the material world, without first achieving it spiritually in the heart to act with Love, Wisdom and Truth to do not do onto others that which you would not have them do onto you!


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very very wise words OP. And this is what they do not understand and you can not blame them either.
It like trying to tell a regular thief stealing is not a good thing.
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Did you know that the vast majority of Muslims killed and murdered since 1900 were in fact killed or murdered by fellow Muslims?

What's that about?
"Everybody lies."
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Did you know that the vast majority of Muslims killed and murdered since 1900 were in fact killed or murdered by fellow Muslims?

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Zionists will never establish the New Jerusalem, Israel or Kingdom of God in the material world, without first achieving it spiritually in the heart to act with Love, Wisdom and Truth to do not do onto others that which you would not have them do onto you!


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The Kingdom of God is within.

New Jerusalem will not be built in Israel and was never meant to be.

Read Isaiah 65 and Micah 4.

The daughter of Zion has been given the name of his city, a new name, the name of his God, the pillar and his new name. She is laying down the red carpet for his arrival. She is the Paraclete that he promised to send from the father in the end times of the end of the age to help humanity.

Many spiritual realities were made into physical realities. However, the New Jerusalem as a very special divine purpose in more ways than one.

Israel means 'Struggle with God" and it really should be renamed 'Bethel' for as long as it is called Israel it will always be struggling with God.

As Prophet Jeremiah said 'A woman would encompass a man" and she is clothed in the sun exactly as the Revelation predicted.

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The Kingdom of God is within.

New Jerusalem will not be built in Israel and was never meant to be.

Read Isaiah 65 and Micah 4.

The daughter of Zion has been given the name of his city, a new name, the name of his God, the pillar and his new name. She is laying down the red carpet for his arrival. She is the Paraclete that he promised to send from the father in the end times of the end of the age to help humanity.

Many spiritual realities were made into physical realities. However, the New Jerusalem as a very special divine purpose in more ways than one.

Israel means 'Struggle with God" and it really should be renamed 'Bethel' for as long as it is called Israel it will always be struggling with God.

Lotus
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Good post OP.
But from a technicality point of view, has it ever occured to anyone that the people refered to Israel might be Palestinians?
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Zionists will never establish the New Jerusalem, Israel or Kingdom of God in the material world, without first achieving it spiritually in the heart to act with Love, Wisdom and Truth to do not do onto others that which you would not have them do onto you!


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Good post OP.
But from a technicality point of view, has it ever occured to anyone that the people refered to Israel might be Palestinians?
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palestinians are god.s people.
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New Jerusalem is already well established. It certainly has nothing to do with Israel, nor the Zionists nor Jews or Christians or any religion for that matter. It is beyond religion.

And once again, it certainly is not in Israel, and never will be.
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Zionist "Rabbis" Falsify Torah

The Jewish religion teaches that Jews are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine redemption. All human efforts to alter a metaphysical reality are doomed to end in failure and bloodshed. History has clearly borne out this teaching.

Zionism, by advocating a political and military end to the Jewish exile, denies the very essence of our Diaspora existence. The religious Zionists have taken the Torah, a book of Divine law which teaches justice, peace and piety, and transformed it into a vehicle for their political goals, a source for their claims to a piece of land. These claims took their latest form this week, when, to our sorrow, the Zionist falsification was brought to the world’s eyes by the media.

In conjunction with President Bush's visit to the State of Israel, several rabbis of the extremist Zionist settler community penned a letter to the President, asking him to stop "putting pressure on the Israeli leadership" to make land concessions to the Palestinian Authority.

The letter read in part:

"In the name of the people of Israel, the Land of Israel, the Torah of Israel and the G-d of Israel, we demand that his honor the president cease the pressure on the State to hand lands to the Arabs… Honorable President, you must not be remembered in history as Nebuchadnezzar and Titus who destroyed Jerusalem. You must surely remember that American does not benefit from causing damage, Heaven forbid, to the Jewish people and its land. If you help the wholeness of our holy land, we promise you and your country endless blessings."

Signed: Rabbis Dov Lior, David Druckman, Yaakov Yosef, Shmuel Eliyahu and Shalom Dov Wolpe.

Jews Against Zionism condemns this latest act of chutzpah and ingratitude. The writers of this letter call themselves rabbis and speak in the name of the Jewish religion, but the world must not allow itself to be fooled. They are radical politicians and militants advancing their own agenda, for which they are distorting the Holy Torah and jeopardizing Jews everywhere.

"It is a pity that these men wear yarmulkes and black hats, for it not Judaism that drives them but a foreign ideology," said Rabbi Hersh Lowenthal. "They claim to represent the Torah of Israel and the G-d of Israel, but actually their ideology is to flaunt G-d's decree of exile and take over the Holy Land at a time when the Torah forbids us to have it."

For these extremists, the age-old Jewish tradition of speaking respectfully to gentile leaders is gone, to be replaced by a new standard of belligerent claims and dark threats. According to them, America has been punished in the past and may be punished again for not complying with the wishes of a small group of ultra-Zionist fanatics.

We look forward to the Messianic Era, when Jerusalem will be “a house of prayer for all nations” (Isaiah 56:7)

[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]
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JUDAISM IS A RELIGION - NOT A RACE

by: Rabbi Moses Jakubowicz
15 May 2008

During the Middle Ages, the Jewish people suffered many a time from fanatically religious governments who expelled or killed whoever refused to adhere to their religious belief. In the modern era, the Jewish people suffer due to the world’s misunderstanding of the distinction between Judaism and Zionism.

Judaism is a religion, not a race. Throughout history, whoever joined the Jewish religion was called a Jew, no matter what his race, and whoever abandoned the Holy Torah was not considered a Jew. In fact, the biggest names in Jewish history were converts or descendants of converts: King David, Zipporah, Rabbi Akiva, Rabbi Meir, Shmaya and Avtalyon.

The proponents of Zionism, for their own political and financial advantage, have transformed the Jewish religion into a race. Similarly, they have taken the Torah, a book of Divine law which teaches fairness, peace and piety, and transformed it into a vehicle for their political goals, a source for their claims to a piece of land. These claims took their latest form this week, when, to our sorrow, the Zionist falsification was brought to the world’s eyes by the media.

President Bush is visiting the State of Israel, and several rabbis of the extremist Zionist settler community have penned a letter to the President, asking him to stop putting pressure on the Israeli leadership to make land concessions to the Palestinian Authority.

The letter read in part:

"It is totally presumptuous that while the US fights terror, it pressures Israel to make concessions to terrorists! In the name of the people of Israel, the Land of Israel, the Torah of Israel and the G-d of Israel, we demand that his honor the president cease the pressure on the State to hand lands to the Arabs… Honorable President, you must not be remembered in history as Nebuchadnezzar and Titus who destroyed Jerusalem. You must surely remember that American does not benefit from causing damage, Heaven forbid, to the Jewish people and its land. If you help the wholeness of our holy land, we promise you and your country endless blessings."

Signed: Dov Lior, David Druckman, Yaakov Yosef, Shmuel Eliyahu and Shalom Dov Wolpe.

The writers of this letter call themselves rabbis and speak in the name of the Jewish religion, but the world must not allow itself to be fooled. They are radical politicians and militants advancing their own agenda, for which they are distorting the Holy Torah and by doing so they are jeopardizing the Jewish people in the entire world as the Zionists did in the Second World War.

We look forward to the Messianic Era, when Jerusalem will be "a house of prayer for all nations" (Isaiah 56:7)

[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]
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Put that in your pipe & smoke it
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Zionists will never establish the New Jerusalem, Israel or Kingdom of God in the material world, without first achieving it spiritually in the heart to act with Love, Wisdom and Truth to do not do onto others that which you would not have them do onto you!


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So true hf
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Did you know that the vast majority of Muslims killed and murdered since 1900 were in fact killed or murdered by fellow Muslims?

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No most of them were murdered by mossad false flags.

911 the false flag was just another mossad false flag. This false flag alone has caused the murder of near 2 millions muslims to date.

Not to mention the US military caanon fodder that satanic Israel uses to fight their wars for them.

It good to see the US going down the tubes because of NEVER ENDING WARS FOR ISRAEL FUNDED BY NEVER ENDING TAXES BY US TAXPAYERS.

Vote NO MORE WARS FOR ISRAEL. We will not attack Iran for Israel. Lets attach Israel for Iran. The Rissians and Chinese will give a helping hand,
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Good post OP.
But from a technicality point of view, has it ever occured to anyone that the people refered to Israel might be Palestinians?
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Palestinians are more likely to be tribal descendants of the Israel-12 but lineage is irrelevant.

The New Jerusalem is available to "Him who Overcomes" (John 5:29a, Rev 20:6)

The next batch (most of the church) will partake after the millenial reign (John 5:29b, Rev 20:12)

And the remainder of society, by the law of the jubilee will resurrect sometime after this . . . (my opinion)
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