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I believe, according to the new law Obama signed the other week, made this kind of practice LEGAL. I hate it, despise it!
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They aren't given a "choice", are they?
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Vets can't treat an animal like this poor little thing was treated.
But, yet these heartless scum see no problem with doing something like this to a human being.
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1 : Pierre Jean-Jacques is used in Quebec when talking about "Mr Anyone".
2 : Renelique = Ruh-nuh-lick
3 : At 23 weeks, an otherwise healthy fetus would have a slim but legitimate chance of survival. Quadruplets born at 23 weeks last year at The Nebraska Medical Center survived.
My aunt was infertile. She has been inseminated and gave bith to her triplets at 24 WEEKS OLD. They are now 5 years old and do not have major sequels from their very early birth. I am pro aborption. THEREFORE, the limit time to allow aborption should be below 16 weeks because babies begin to sense at the 17th week.
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[link to seattletimes.nwsource.com]

There's one link. Google turns up many.
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I couldn't read past the first few paragraphs when I saw this.
So sad.
You know the left are always attacking religious people, but a baby is not a choice it is living person with a soul. Some people try to save their babies born premature, yet the abortionists will kill a baby that is even further along. Sick, just sick!

You know it was religious people who ended slavery. All the abolitionists were very religious people.
The left is made up of the most disgusting moral system ever.
They make me sick. They love to murder babies, but they will fight tooth and nail to save a mass murderer from execution. They have NO morals.

And yes, I'm talking about democrats!


we don't "love to murder babies," moron, we love to give people the right to choose what they can and can't do with their own bodies.

pro-choice does not equal pro-baby killing, no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.
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You cannot separate the KILLING from abortion or "choice", anymore than you can separate KILLING from "defending our freedoms" in armed combat.
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I had an abortion in 1971. Rove v Wade had just been decided and the womens "liberation" movement was in full swing. I was 17. It took years for me to see that young women were being brainwashed and manipulated by anti life eugenists. I regret my decision and hope that young women will see the truth on this matter.

If you know any pregnant young women who are afraid, BE SUPPORTIVE and let them know that life is sacred.
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WHAT? Support the RAISING of this Child? Clarify PLEASE!

Life is Sacred when these babies are made in Love- LOVE- Love between two Grown Mature and Loving individuals that through thier LOVE have created a Precious Life! NOTHING IS MORE SACRED!
If it (Life Created) is done UNCONSCIOUSLY and without regard for the creation itself it should by no means be able to be aborted.
A 23 week pregancy termination is a bad a choice all together. A Choice UNDoubtably made in FEAR! Fear Based on RELIGION, PEERS, Enviornment .whatever SICK condition the Poor Soul is Swimming in.

Unless you would of welcomed this child and its sick delusioanlly mother into your home with open arms... to nurture them back to HEALTH & SANITY~

THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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I felt compelled to comment by seeing peoples response.

It is neccessary for us to hold life as important(sacred), this is embedded in each of us, it is the key to survival.

However death is abundant all around us, in every corner of the world. Sensitivity to this expected. Every creature on the planet instinctivley knows when and when not to allow newborns to live or die based on current conditions, normally it is between food resources and health.

Therefore moderation must be employed when considering all things..... There is a time for everything.

Let me say that I abhor the events of this story, it is instinctive, but to make a blanket statement concerning all such decisions as being terrible is over-reacting.

There are questions each of us must answer about decisions we make, some are right, some are wrong and some make no difference. Life is not a beating heart!

It is easy to condem this particular event, granted, but do not let it blind you to the truths of nature. God brought it into existance and natures rules are easy to see. We have this false impression sometimes that we have all the answers. All things are permitted, but not everything is profitable(spiritually).
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I had an abortion in 1971. Rove v Wade had just been decided and the womens "liberation" movement was in full swing. I was 17. It took years for me to see that young women were being brainwashed and manipulated by anti life eugenists. I regret my decision and hope that young women will see the truth on this matter.

If you know any pregnant young women who are afraid, BE SUPPORTIVE and let them know that life is sacred.


WHAT? Support the RAISING of this Child? Clarify PLEASE!

Life is Sacred when these babies are made in Love- LOVE- Love between two Grown Mature and Loving individuals that through thier LOVE have created a Precious Life! NOTHING IS MORE SACRED!
If it (Life Created) is done UNCONSCIOUSLY and without regard for the creation itself it should by no means be able to be aborted.
A 23 week pregancy termination is a bad a choice all together. A Choice UNDoubtably made in FEAR! Fear Based on RELIGION, PEERS, Enviornment .whatever SICK condition the Poor Soul is Swimming in.

Unless you would of welcomed this child and its sick delusioanlly mother into your home with open arms... to nurture them back to HEALTH & SANITY~

THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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If you would read the language of your own post, I don't think "woman with a brain" would be a correct handle.

In Brazil, where street orphans were unwanted, unloved, unadoptable, and an annoyance to tourists and businesses, the Rio police just shot them. By your reasoning, this would make sense. Not conceived in love and not wanted = disposable.
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Black people...........
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Yup, and white trash too.
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I nticed that this thread went from 5 stars (2 votes) to 3 stars (4 votes). The anti life crowd will get bent over this reality being posted.
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Well, some of us just know what it really implies on the "spiritual" side for both parties (the baby's soul and the mom's soul) and get that religions do not rightly (at all!) inform people about it.

It's not some bullshit like anti-life versus pro-life, it's "getting what it really means and why those choices are made" and not making a deal of things that must happen for souls to gain experience, which is a good thing, unless a soul wants to remain ignorant.
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Life is not a beating heart!

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Try stopping yours and see what happens, lol.
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I couldn't read past the first few paragraphs when I saw this.
So sad.
You know the left are always attacking religious people, but a baby is not a choice it is living person with a soul. Some people try to save their babies born premature, yet the abortionists will kill a baby that is even further along. Sick, just sick!

You know it was religious people who ended slavery. All the abolitionists were very religious people.
The left is made up of the most disgusting moral system ever.
They make me sick. They love to murder babies, but they will fight tooth and nail to save a mass murderer from execution. They have NO morals.

And yes, I'm talking about democrats!


we don't "love to murder babies," moron, we love to give people the right to choose what they can and can't do with their own bodies.

pro-choice does not equal pro-baby killing, no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.

According to this, it does. You're dismissed.


sorry, but the misguided actions of one person do not speak for the entire movement.
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But the laws protecting the doctor do. The laws you support. I believe in free choice. You have a choice to spread your legs or not. After that, it's a commitment to consequences.
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I nticed that this thread went from 5 stars (2 votes) to 3 stars (4 votes). The anti life crowd will get bent over this reality being posted.



Well, some of us just know what it really implies on the "spiritual" side for both parties (the baby's soul and the mom's soul) and get that religions do not rightly inform people about it.

It's not some bullshit like anti-life versus pro-life, it's "getting what it really means and why those choices are made" and not making a deal of things that must happen for souls to gain experience.
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If you took the time to who has pushed the idea of abortion, you would find that they are/were, indeed, "anti life". They are the exact same eugenisists who's philosophy of "life worthy of life" came from.
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Down to 2.5 stars, now.

Planned Parenthood bots must be here, lol.
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I nticed that this thread went from 5 stars (2 votes) to 3 stars (4 votes). The anti life crowd will get bent over this reality being posted.



Well, some of us just know what it really implies on the "spiritual" side for both parties (the baby's soul and the mom's soul) and get that religions do not rightly inform people about it.

It's not some bullshit like anti-life versus pro-life, it's "getting what it really means and why those choices are made" and not making a deal of things that must happen for souls to gain experience.


If you took the time to who has pushed the idea of abortion, you would find that they are/were, indeed, "anti life". They are the exact same eugenisists who's philosophy of "life worthy of life" came from.
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Same philosophy as the Nazis
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I nticed that this thread went from 5 stars (2 votes) to 3 stars (4 votes). The anti life crowd will get bent over this reality being posted.



Well, some of us just know what it really implies on the "spiritual" side for both parties (the baby's soul and the mom's soul) and get that religions do not rightly inform people about it.

It's not some bullshit like anti-life versus pro-life, it's "getting what it really means and why those choices are made" and not making a deal of things that must happen for souls to gain experience.


If you took the time to who has pushed the idea of abortion, you would find that they are/were, indeed, "anti life". They are the exact same eugenisists who's philosophy of "life worthy of life" came from.
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If your ennemy told you that your house is on fire (because it actually is on fire), would you deny what he said because he's your ennemy?
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Really, I wish you would take your stories somewhere that you might change hearts and minds. No one here wants to see or hear your doctored stories. Please go to some xtian site where there are other mindless fools. You've never done a thing to prevent one single pregnancy and you would be at a total loss for something to do if there were suddenly no abortions. Go to work to prevent pregnancy, do something worthwhile with your life!
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I couldn't read past the first few paragraphs when I saw this.
So sad.
You know the left are always attacking religious people, but a baby is not a choice it is living person with a soul. Some people try to save their babies born premature, yet the abortionists will kill a baby that is even further along. Sick, just sick!

You know it was religious people who ended slavery. All the abolitionists were very religious people.
The left is made up of the most disgusting moral system ever.
They make me sick. They love to murder babies, but they will fight tooth and nail to save a mass murderer from execution. They have NO morals.

And yes, I'm talking about democrats!


we don't "love to murder babies," moron, we love to give people the right to choose what they can and can't do with their own bodies.

pro-choice does not equal pro-baby killing, no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.



You cannot separate the KILLING from abortion or "choice", anymore than you can separate KILLING from "defending our freedoms" in armed combat.
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Combatants are given the choice to fight. Unborn children are not.
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this is what happens when satan rules. its horrific.

my daughter said to me the other day " i remember samantha, one day she was pregnant and the next not" 5 months had abortion.

this world is soooooooooo sick sick sick
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true.
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Really, I wish you would take your stories somewhere that you might change hearts and minds. No one here wants to see or hear your doctored stories. Please go to some xtian site where there are other mindless fools. You've never done a thing to prevent one single pregnancy and you would be at a total loss for something to do if there were suddenly no abortions. Go to work to prevent pregnancy, do something worthwhile with your life!
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Preventing pregnancy is not a group effort. Have some class and don't go around fucking everything with a heartbeat.


I'm totally pro-choice. You have a choice to spread your legs, and after that you've made a commitment to the choice and the consequences.
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From AP

Eighteen and pregnant, Sycloria Williams went to an abortion clinic outside Miami and paid $1,200 for Dr. Pierre Jean-Jacque Renelique to terminate her 23-week pregnancy.

Three days later, she sat in a reclining chair, medicated to dilate her cervix and otherwise get her ready for the procedure.

Only Renelique didn't arrive in time. According to Williams and the Florida Department of Health, she went into labor and delivered a live baby girl.

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Williams struggled with the decision to have an abortion, Pennekamp said. She declined an interview request made through him.

She concluded she didn't have the resources or maturity to raise a child, he said, and went to the Miramar Women's Center on July 17, 2006. Sonograms indicated she was 23 weeks pregnant, according to the Department of Health. She met Renelique at a second clinic two days later.

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"She came face to face with a human being," Pennekamp said. "And that changed everything."

The complaint says one of the clinic owners, Belkis Gonzalez came in and cut the umbilical cord with scissors, then placed the baby in a plastic bag, and the bag in a trash can.

Williams' lawsuit offers a cruder account: She says Gonzalez knocked the baby off the recliner chair where she had given birth, onto the floor. The baby's umbilical cord was not clamped, allowing her to bleed out. Gonzalez scooped the baby, placenta and afterbirth into a red plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.

No working telephone number could be found for Gonzalez, and an attorney who has represented the clinic in the past did not return a message.

At 23 weeks, an otherwise healthy fetus would have a slim but legitimate chance of survival. Quadruplets born at 23 weeks last year at The Nebraska Medical Center survived.

An autopsy determined Williams' baby - she named her Shanice - had filled her lungs with air, meaning she had been born alive, according to the Department of Health. The cause of death was listed as extreme prematurity.

...
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Too bad every person who decides to have an abortion isn't made to look at the remains of their aborted child. Maybe they would think twice before having another. In fact, I think they should have to look at a video of an abortion for whatever term they are at before they can have an abortion. That would probably stop many of them.
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Would you promote tobacco because nazis were against it?
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If you took the time to who has pushed the idea of abortion, you would find that they are/were, indeed, "anti life". They are the exact same eugenisists who's philosophy of "life worthy of life" came from.
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Thank you for bringing up the subject. Most people don´t know the history of the abortion movement, and who´s money is behind it.

In this thread, which I try to update as much as possible with news about this subject, there is also a lot of reading about what was and is going on behind the scenes of the "abortion movement"

Thread: Abortionist who aborted 48,000 babies meets man in black and white in dream...and becomes Pro-life activist (Page 10)

A tip: Check the story of Bernard Nathanson here (scroll down)to educate yourself about basic history...

CONFESSION OF AN EX-ABORTIONIST

Thread: Abortionist who aborted 48,000 babies meets man in black and white in dream...and becomes Pro-life activist

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Combatants are given the choice to fight. Unborn children are not.
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They are! And they actually choose to incarnate in a body that will be killed early for the EXPERIENCE a soul can get from it.



But all of this is way beyond your christian understanding.
This is not something your bible will teach you, because basically, the bible was originally made for people who were way more dumb than people today. So those are things they could not explain in the bible because at that time, the only thing that people would have understood from it would have been "LET'S KILL OUR BABIES!!!!1110N3" without any firther understanding of the implications behind this nor self-control.
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I am pro-choice. Interesting that this news comes out now, on the heels of the rage over the woman in LA having so many children and deciding not to terminate at least some of the embryos.
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I am pro-choice. Interesting that this news comes out now, on the heels of the rage over the woman in LA having so many children and deciding not to terminate at least some of the embryos.
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Very very good point.
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I had an abortion in 1971. Rove v Wade had just been decided and the womens "liberation" movement was in full swing. I was 17. It took years for me to see that young women were being brainwashed and manipulated by anti life eugenists. I regret my decision and hope that young women will see the truth on this matter.

If you know any pregnant young women who are afraid, BE SUPPORTIVE and let them know that life is sacred.
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I can't imagine what you are going through. I do know that my ex-wife wanted to abort and was going to do it without telling me. She had made the arrangements and was going to have her gf take her. (She was wanting a divorce at the time and we were separated.) She couldn't do it without my knowledge so woke me up at 4:00 a.m., told me of what she had planed and wanted me to take her to the clinic. I said no way and if she didn't want the baby I'd take care of it. To make a long story shorter, he was born 10 weeks early, weighed two and one half pounds and had a heart operation when he was 4 days old. When he finally got out of the hospital he weighed four and a half pounds. The next week when I took him back for a check up, they found he had a double hernia and had to operate again.

Fast forward, his mom left us 3 1/2 years later and I've took care of him ever since.

Fast forward again. He'll turn 30 in three days. Being premature at birth hasn't affected though. I've seen him lift a 350 chevy short block and load it on the back of his jacked up 4 wheel drive PU.

BTW, although he can be a pain in the butt sometimes, I still sleep at night. :-)





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