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Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread
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Evil Twin  
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2/10/2009 12:08 PM
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Gunny bump....
BTW Evil Twin I went to order those primers an hour later cuz I was on a phone call at work and they were GONE!!!! Quoting: Omega
Can't say that surprises me, unfortunately!
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dookie stain
User ID: 317540
2/10/2009 12:12 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread | Quote |
About the Lee loaders....I didn't like seating the primers with a hammer....they often went Tap Tap Tap BANG!....first time it happened, I almost pissed my pants....I like the Lyman 310 tool better....they're like a set of big nut cracker tongs .... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 553830
2/10/2009 1:21 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread | Quote |
MY RELOADING ADVENTURES
Not to sound stupid(because i am), but here's my situation. A couple years ago or so, I saw this coming so I started buying. First it was presses, then all the other numerous things in each caliber I was focusing on. That's a bunch of stuff to say the least, and money, too. I'm a nut case from way back(some would say) so I usually will buy a whole bunch of shit and there it will sit for eons as my interests shift. Anyways....about a month ago I decided I would ACTUALLY TRY to reload some .223 and .308. Well, that was a learning experience I'm not through with as of yet! I thought I would start by prepping a thousand of each calibers brass. Well, I learned you have to really lubricate the casing or the damn thing would get stuck in the press...duh! I started out getting the 1k .223 cases done and moved on the .308 brass. Damn!! what a big difference!! After totally ripping my press out of the 2x8 it was mounted to, I bolted it into a 1" thick steel table and now it sizes like a charm. In priming them all, I've destroyed a few rcbs priming arms(damn pot metal). So, I've been putting this moment off for as long as I possibly could...time to put the powder and bullet to the casing. Well, I discovered my scales were less than as accurate as I would like so, I just got another scale in that really gets the job done. SO.....How the hell am I going to figure out the "sweet" spot? I'm going to start with the .223 and so far I've made 25 shells each in two different 1 grain intervals and two different weights of bullets. I guess i'll just have to pick out a gun and scope it in and ? what is suppose to happen????? Will it be more than obvious or what????? Shit, I'm getting older and I shake. How the hell is this ever going to work? I might get some young feller that can shoot straight to help! LOL Not to mention I'll be hiding behind a tree wondering if the fucker is going to blow up!!!! YEEEHAAAW we're having fun now!!!
Now what exactly???????? |
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
2/10/2009 1:35 PM
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MY RELOADING ADVENTURES
Not to sound stupid(because i am), but here's my situation. A couple years ago or so, I saw this coming so I started buying. First it was presses, then all the other numerous things in each caliber I was focusing on. That's a bunch of stuff to say the least, and money, too. I'm a nut case from way back(some would say) so I usually will buy a whole bunch of shit and there it will sit for eons as my interests shift. Anyways....about a month ago I decided I would ACTUALLY TRY to reload some .223 and .308. Well, that was a learning experience I'm not through with as of yet! I thought I would start by prepping a thousand of each calibers brass. Well, I learned you have to really lubricate the casing or the damn thing would get stuck in the press...duh! I started out getting the 1k .223 cases done and moved on the .308 brass. Damn!! what a big difference!! After totally ripping my press out of the 2x8 it was mounted to, I bolted it into a 1" thick steel table and now it sizes like a charm. In priming them all, I've destroyed a few rcbs priming arms(damn pot metal). So, I've been putting this moment off for as long as I possibly could...time to put the powder and bullet to the casing. Well, I discovered my scales were less than as accurate as I would like so, I just got another scale in that really gets the job done. SO.....How the hell am I going to figure out the "sweet" spot? I'm going to start with the .223 and so far I've made 25 shells each in two different 1 grain intervals and two different weights of bullets. I guess i'll just have to pick out a gun and scope it in and ? what is suppose to happen????? Will it be more than obvious or what????? Shit, I'm getting older and I shake. How the hell is this ever going to work? I might get some young feller that can shoot straight to help! LOL Not to mention I'll be hiding behind a tree wondering if the fucker is going to blow up!!!! YEEEHAAAW we're having fun now!!!
Now what exactly???????? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553830
In finding the 'sweet spot', you need to eliminate as many variables as possible. For instance, focus on one bullet weight for now. use the same primer, same brass, same seating depth. I typically make only 5 or 10 rounds for each given powder charge. I will make 5 sets, each with a slightly larger charge. Then, take them out and shoot them for groups from a rest. You want as solid a shooting position as you can get, to eliminate the shooter from the equation as much as possible. I start with the lightest charge, shoot a group, measure it, and move up to the next higher charge. You will find one charge weight that shoots a tighter group than the others. Then, I will make up a few more batches of 5 or 10 in smaller increments of charge a little lighter and little heavier than the original. Once you've found the optimal charge weight, you can play with the seating depth of the bullet, if you want to eek out the last 1/4" of accuracy from the load.
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
2/10/2009 1:41 PM
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BTW AC 553830, I'm curious what powder and bullet you're using?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 553830
2/10/2009 1:52 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread | Quote |
I've got a bunch of Varget and am using 55grn fmj and 62 grain ss109's. I also have 2230, rl-15, and w846 for these 2 calibers.
Would you start at 50 yards or 100 yds? |
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Evil Twin
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2/10/2009 2:06 PM
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I've got a bunch of Varget and am using 55grn fmj and 62 grain ss109's. I also have 2230, rl-15, and w846 for these 2 calibers.
Would you start at 50 yards or 100 yds? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553830
I'd start at 50 yds, it'll save you some walking, lol.
Varget and Rl-15 are probably the best powders for that cartridge.
I don't load .223 personally, but looking at my manuals, I'd start with the Varget and the 55 gr. bullet, and build 5 with 25.5 grains, 5 with 26 grains, 5x 26.5 grains, 5x27 grains, and 5x 27.5 grains, which is the max load listed in the manual I have in front of me.
Then, say I found the 27 grain charge to shoot the best group.
I would then load up 5x27.2 gr, 5x26.8 gr, 5x27 gr, and see if any of those were better.
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Evil Twin
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2/10/2009 2:08 PM
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I know that Lester loads .223, and is a big fan of Varget. Hopefully, he will see this thread and offer his experience with that combo.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 553830
2/10/2009 2:10 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread | Quote |
ET, I read in one of your posts a while back that you just get the load pretty close and go with it. I may end up doing that for all but a couple of guns. This would take forever if you bring in different powders, bullets, and specific guns. TOO many to fuck with. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 553830
2/10/2009 2:13 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread | Quote |
Thanks ET, I'll PM Lester and ask for some advice there. |
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
2/10/2009 2:14 PM
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ET, I read in one of your posts a while back that you just get the load pretty close and go with it. I may end up doing that for all but a couple of guns. This would take forever if you bring in different powders, bullets, and specific guns. TOO many to fuck with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553830
Yep. You can burn through hundreds or thousand of rounds in search of the ultimate load. Heck, you can shoot out your barrel in search of that last hundredth of an inch.
I'm a decent shot, but I'll never win any competitions. So, I find a load that works well enough for me, and stick with it.
In the above example, I would probably just stop with the 27.0 grain load and call it good.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 553830
2/10/2009 2:20 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread | Quote |
When I had my "not so decent scales", I loaded up what I thought was 24 grains and damn it sounded and kicked like a larger caliber. I looked at the brass and they still had the primers in them and didn't look split or anything, but I knew I'd better get some "real" scales. I didn't aim at anything, and stood with my arms wrapped around a tree just pulling the trigger!!!! LOL!!!! |
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Evil Twin
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2/10/2009 2:27 PM
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The nice thing abut Varget and Rl-15 with the .223 case is, you simply can't fit enough in the case to create a really dangerous load. Both list their max loads as compressed in that case. That means they are filled right up into the neck before you seat the bullet.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 553830
2/10/2009 2:39 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread | Quote |
It appears as though varget and .308 is compressed also. I need to get with Lester BAD! |
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
2/10/2009 2:43 PM
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It appears as though varget and .308 is compressed also. I need to get with Lester BAD! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553830
For .308 with 150 grain bullets, my favorite load is 42.5 grains of Rl-15. It shoots groups with all holes touching out of my rifle. That's plenty good for me!
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SPUD
User ID: 553830
2/10/2009 3:01 PM
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I wrote that down ET, I'll be getting around to filling the .308's soon.
LESTER HAS A PM !!!!!!!!
Thanks!
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Omega
User ID: 423762
2/10/2009 3:16 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread | Quote |
It appears as though varget and .308 is compressed also. I need to get with Lester BAD!
For .308 with 150 grain bullets, my favorite load is 42.5 grains of Rl-15. It shoots groups with all holes touching out of my rifle. That's plenty good for me! Quoting: Evil Twin
For 168grn Sierra HPBT I went with IMR 4064 over 40 grains loaded 20 up need to shoot em will let ya know how it goes bro....
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Enigma
User ID: 578473
2/10/2009 3:28 PM
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I was a Cabela's last night in Buda, and bought a Lee Loader in .308 and a few other things ( load books )
there had some Magnum primers left and some 209's but no larger rifle primers...
they said some guy came in last week and bough all they had in stock... 1000 dollars worth of primers...
they said they have more on order...
had plenty of boolits and powder, and dies...
"knowing and not DOING, is like NOT KNOWING at all" |
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
2/10/2009 3:29 PM
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For 168grn Sierra HPBT I went with IMR 4064 over 40 grains loaded 20 up need to shoot em will let ya know how it goes bro....
That's a powder I've never tried, hope it works good for ya!
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Enigma
User ID: 578473
2/10/2009 3:29 PM
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It appears as though varget and .308 is compressed also. I need to get with Lester BAD!
For .308 with 150 grain bullets, my favorite load is 42.5 grains of Rl-15. It shoots groups with all holes touching out of my rifle. That's plenty good for me!
For 168grn Sierra HPBT I went with IMR 4064 over 40 grains loaded 20 up need to shoot em will let ya know how it goes bro....
Let's go this week... I need to sight in that new Sako tack driver...
"knowing and not DOING, is like NOT KNOWING at all" |
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
2/10/2009 3:31 PM
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$1000 worth of primers?! Holy crap!
I was reading on the castboolits forum recently that Lee is phasing out the Lee loaders. I guess they just aren't selling very well any more.
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Omega
User ID: 423762
2/10/2009 3:33 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread | Quote |
It appears as though varget and .308 is compressed also. I need to get with Lester BAD!
For .308 with 150 grain bullets, my favorite load is 42.5 grains of Rl-15. It shoots groups with all holes touching out of my rifle. That's plenty good for me!
For 168grn Sierra HPBT I went with IMR 4064 over 40 grains loaded 20 up need to shoot em will let ya know how it goes bro....
Let's go this week... I need to sight in that new Sako tack driver...
Tomorrow night then bro???
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Enigma
User ID: 578473
2/10/2009 3:36 PM
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sounds good...
same bat time... same bat channel...
"knowing and not DOING, is like NOT KNOWING at all" |
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Enigma
User ID: 578473
2/10/2009 3:38 PM
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$1000 worth of primers?! Holy crap!
I was reading on the castboolits forum recently that Lee is phasing out the Lee loaders. I guess they just aren't selling very well any more. Quoting: Evil Twin
all they had on the shelves at Cabelas was one .308 ( which I bought ) and two 45/70 loaders...
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
2/10/2009 3:42 PM
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$1000 worth of primers?! Holy crap!
I was reading on the castboolits forum recently that Lee is phasing out the Lee loaders. I guess they just aren't selling very well any more.
all they had on the shelves at Cabelas was one .308 ( which I bought ) and two 45/70 loaders... Quoting: Enigma
Did they have much in the way of powder and boolits?
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Omega
User ID: 369126
2/10/2009 9:03 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread | Quote |
I like guns lol....
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
2/10/2009 9:07 PM
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I like guns lol....
LOL, I was just about to head out to my bench and load another 100 .45s.
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Evil Twin
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2/10/2009 9:18 PM
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ET's favorite general purpose 45 acp load:
200 gr. LSWC (cast by me)
6.9 grains Unique
CCI primer
Win. brass
Goes about 950 fps, and shoots to point of aim in my 5" 1911.
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Omega
User ID: 369126
2/10/2009 9:25 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP...Ammunition Reloader's Thread | Quote |
ET's favorite general purpose 45 acp load:
200 gr. LSWC (cast by me)
6.9 grains Unique
CCI primer
Win. brass
Goes about 950 fps, and shoots to point of aim in my 5" 1911. Quoting: Evil Twin
Wooo hoo I am going with 240 LSWC over 5.0 grains Unique federal primers fixin to get blowed up lol once fired 1000 rounds brass lol....
I may have some questions lol...
Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science.
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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide.
Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Evil Twin
Senior Forum Moderator
2/10/2009 9:30 PM
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Wooo hoo I am going with 240 LSWC over 5.0 grains Unique federal primers fixin to get blowed up lol once fired 1000 rounds brass lol....
I may have some questions lol... Quoting: Omega
5 grains is a pretty light charge, doubt that'll blow you up! lol.
That 240 oughtta be a thumper though!
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