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Starting to lose trust in Obama. feeling betrayed and lied to. very worried about America right now.
after 8 yrs of the neocon lies and crimes, i thought things would be dramatically different... BETTER with a Democratic whitehouse.

this was emailed to me and now I feel sick to my stomach. i'm finding it hard to believe that even the neocons would attempt something in these despearte times so political, so underhanded, and so unfair.

Here we are, the American people, collectively asking, pleading for hope, and the rescuing of our economy AND OUR JOBS, and president obama, to whom I previously gave my full support, is actually trying to do this to us? he's actually trying to pull this off? NOW????????????????????????????

And almost worse, he's attempting to stick this final knife in our backs, cleverly disguised in his very first action as a 'Jobs Stimulus Package'?????

using the SAME neocon tactics of fear and the hidden 'devil in the details' and 'We've got to do this NOW or we're all doomed!' disguised in a bill with a name a grandmother could love.

this is just unreal, I really don't know what to think anymore.

does he hate us?

how are you supposed to feel when your savior instead choses to be your executioner?

if this is true, this could be the greatest betrayal in United States history and will be the nails in the coffin for the American working class stripping them of millions of job opportunities in a single stroke

I hope this is not true mr obama. say it isn't so...

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starting??? dumb ass.... they are all the same

Obama is the chosen one for this rape and pillage
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starting??? dumb ass.... they are all the same

Obama is the chosen one for this rape and pillage
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sure. call me names because I wanted to believe somebody with some say-so actually gave a damn about us. i'm sorry.

I just thought obama actually cared about the American people and now I'm starting to realize that not only is he not 'with' us, in less than one month in office it's clear, barak obama is against America.


does anybody know if this report is true?

Is President Obama actually trying to sneak a path to permanent citezenship for the tens of millions of undocumented workers in our counrty?

really?

has the entire American joblessness emergency gone right over his head? what is he thinking?
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Re: Starting to lose trust in Obama. feeling betrayed and lied to. very worried about America right now.
HAVE A FEELING THIS IS ABOUT A MEXICAN ARMY ON AMERICAN STREETS IN THE NEAR FUTURE?
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Re: Starting to lose trust in Obama. feeling betrayed and lied to. very worried about America right now.
after 8 yrs of the neocon lies and crimes, i thought things would be dramatically different... BETTER with a Democratic whitehouse.

this was emailed to me and now I feel sick to my stomach. i'm finding it hard to believe that even the neocons would attempt something in these despearte times so political, so underhanded, and so unfair.

Here we are, the American people, collectively asking, pleading for hope, and the rescuing of our economy AND OUR JOBS, and president obama, to whom I previously gave my full support, is actually trying to do this to us? he's actually trying to pull this off? NOW????????????????????????????

And almost worse, he's attempting to stick this final knife in our backs, cleverly disguised in his very first action as a 'Jobs Stimulus Package'?????

using the SAME neocon tactics of fear and the hidden 'devil in the details' and 'We've got to do this NOW or we're all doomed!' disguised in a bill with a name a grandmother could love.

this is just unreal, I really don't know what to think anymore.

does he hate us?

how are you supposed to feel when your savior instead choses to be your executioner?

if this is true, this could be the greatest betrayal in United States history and will be the nails in the coffin for the American working class stripping them of millions of job opportunities in a single stroke

I hope this is not true mr obama. say it isn't so...


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That is from WAY back during the Bush administration. Ive had it saved on my desktop for the longest.....nice try
They have the power to create reality

I could explain it better but I would need charts, graphs and an easel.

By the way....which ones pink?
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HAVE A FEELING THIS IS ABOUT A MEXICAN ARMY ON AMERICAN STREETS IN THE NEAR FUTURE?
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REMEMBER THE ALAMO!
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imho, the problem lies with congress. they know that no matter who is elected president, they will be around much longer than the pres(limited to 8yrs. max).

until we the people rise up and force congress to term limits, it matters not who the president is b/c congress will do what is best for congress - and no one else.
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I actually have the same exact video saved on my desktop from March 16, 2008. It was almost a year old when I DL'd it.....

Like I said, Nice try...but that is Bush policy!
They have the power to create reality

I could explain it better but I would need charts, graphs and an easel.

By the way....which ones pink?
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good op is waking up

welcom in the matrix
lets go protect zion
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Re: Starting to lose trust in Obama. feeling betrayed and lied to. very worried about America right now.
The OP speaks like a Republican- and I call BS on him.
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HAVE A FEELING THIS IS ABOUT A MEXICAN ARMY ON AMERICAN STREETS IN THE NEAR FUTURE?
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that's the other thing. he's promised 600,000 new govt jobs with this 'Jobs Stimulus Package'.

I was actually considering doin my part for once, however, if suddenly 20 million undocumented workers can apply for those jobs, how livable will the wages of those jobs actually be?

are we looking at 'new and improved govt' staffed by the first half a million lowest-bidders from outside the US?

I'm a proud dem but this, especially in these times, just some so wrong?
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after 8 yrs of the neocon lies and crimes, i thought things would be dramatically different... BETTER with a Democratic whitehouse.

this was emailed to me and now I feel sick to my stomach. i'm finding it hard to believe that even the neocons would attempt something in these despearte times so political, so underhanded, and so unfair.

Here we are, the American people, collectively asking, pleading for hope, and the rescuing of our economy AND OUR JOBS, and president obama, to whom I previously gave my full support, is actually trying to do this to us? he's actually trying to pull this off? NOW????????????????????????????

And almost worse, he's attempting to stick this final knife in our backs, cleverly disguised in his very first action as a 'Jobs Stimulus Package'?????

using the SAME neocon tactics of fear and the hidden 'devil in the details' and 'We've got to do this NOW or we're all doomed!' disguised in a bill with a name a grandmother could love.

this is just unreal, I really don't know what to think anymore.

does he hate us?

how are you supposed to feel when your savior instead choses to be your executioner?

if this is true, this could be the greatest betrayal in United States history and will be the nails in the coffin for the American working class stripping them of millions of job opportunities in a single stroke

I hope this is not true mr obama. say it isn't so...




That is from WAY back during the Bush administration. Ive had it saved on my desktop for the longest.....nice try
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boy am i glad to hear that! i've always loved obama and just didn't understand this when it was emailed to me recently.

so, are we certain there's no new provisions for amnesty hidden in this 800 billion dollar spending package?

I really really hope not! especially when we're aslo hearing RECENT reports like this...

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It is not only a far left Democrat White House - it is a Congress and Senate controlled by even farther left Democrats that used the stimulus package as a pick-your-favorite-spending plan. They all act as if profits is a dirty word when we all know that it is profits and dividends that actually create jobs.

They are going to give tax refunds to people who have not paid any taxes and the people who do pay the taxes will keep on paying. How nuts is that?

If half of it was funds or legislation that would bring back jobs or create new manufacturing and office jobs here, it might be acceptable. But most of it is government funding for government jobs and we all know that doubles the price of those jobs.

There are a lot of bizarre things in those 650 pages, none of which is going to get the banks to start renegotiating mortgages.

There is money for community groups like the corrupt ACORN group ( under investigation for vote fraud), illegal immigration advocate groups, fine arts endowments as if the Hollywood set couldn't finance all that with a few of their big movie paychecks and profits.

Some of the things they want to fund might be good things to do, but they have not had a hearing and have no place in a bill that is supposed to create jobs in the private sector.

Of course, the plan may be to make us all work for the government one way or another.
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The OP speaks like a Republican- and I call BS on him.
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what? because I actually care about the United States, I couldn't possibly be a Democrat?

You know, there are Democrats that actually do love their country and want to see her succeed.

You don't have to be 'commie-pinko' anti-America, pro-amnesty, let's slit our own throats, give it all away til there's nothing left, koolaid drinker to be a dem.
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Look, these guys are appointed to office not elected, there has not been an election since Roosevelt. They all answer to the man behind the curtain.
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You feel like a cheap drunk bimbo that fell for a line from some smooth operator, went home with him woke up in the morning sober and felt like you have been used.

Makes sense to me, you HAVE been used!
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The OP speaks like a Republican- and I call BS on him.
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the OP speaks like an AMERICAN... who is aware of what is going on
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Sorry but this is just the beginning 20 days of the Obama/Pelosi/Reid RULE.
Should have checked into his background and its unsettling for our future.
He claims he'll have a transparent government, yet all of his and Michelle's records are SEALED.

I copied the following from another blogger:

Current Communist Goals (1963)
Congressional Record Appendix, pp. A34-A35
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them censorship and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as normal, natural, healthy.
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with social religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a religious crutch.
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the common man.
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the big picture.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders.
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. (Al Gore has been lecturing at grade schools stating this part.)
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use united force to solve economic, political or social problems. (Stimulus Bill alloted $2 Billion for this)
["Power" image] look familiar as someone community organizing T-shirt? (red fist) (Obama's friend, Bill Ayers wears this shirt.)

Sleep Well ??????
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The Cloward/Piven Strategy of Economic Recovery
By Nancy Coppock
Using borrowed money for a band-aid bailout of the economy should seem backwards to most people. However, it likely is a planned strategy to promote radical change. Those naively believing that President Obama is simply rewarding his far-left base, and will then move to the political center, must wise up.

The assumption that Obama will need the nation to prosper in order to protect the 2010 mid-term election incorrectly assumes that he esteems free market capitalism. He does not. Rather than win through superior ideas and policies, the Democrat plan for success in the mid-term elections is to win by destroying political opposition.

Obama adheres to the Saul Alinksy Rules for Radicals method of politics, which teaches the dark art of destroying political adversaries. However, that text reveals only one front in the radical left's war against America. The Cloward/Piven Strategy is another method employed by the radical Left to create and manage crisis. This strategy explains Rahm Emanuel's ominous statement, "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."

The Cloward/Piven Strategy is named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. Their goal is to overthrow capitalism by overwhelming the government bureaucracy with entitlement demands. The created crisis provides the impetus to bring about radical political change.

According to Discover the Networks.org:

Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation... [Emphasis added.]


Making an already weak economy even worse is the intent of the Cloward/Piven Strategy. It is imperative that we view the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan's spending on items like food stamps, jobless benefits, and health care through this end goal. This strategy explains why the Democrat plan to "stimulate" the economy involves massive deficit spending projects. It includes billions for ACORN and its subgroups such as SHOP and the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. Expanding the S-Chip Program through deficit spending in a supposed effort to "save the children" only makes a faltering economy worse.

If Congress were to allow a robust economy, parents would be able to provide for their children themselves by earning and keeping more of their own money. Democrats, quick to not waste a crisis, would consider that a lost opportunity.

The Cato Institute reports that the plan will harm a faltering economy, intentionally causing increased job losses leading to increased demands for the aforementioned programs. Even the jobs to be created are set apart to render social justice, not economic revival. Robert Reich believes new infrastructure jobs should not go to white construction workers. Meanwhile, workers at Microsoft, IBM, Texas Instruments, and the retail market find themselves experiencing the life of the welfare poor.

If highly educated and trained workers continue to lose jobs and business falters as a whole, where will these jobless workers go? Could this be construed as revolutionary social reorganization that puts the underachiever above the achiever? Where is the future economic strength when jobless professionals collect welfare and unemployment while dreaming of a minimum wage job? For whites, there's not even the hope of a good paying construction job.

Because these programs are financed with deficit spending, the effect of the Cloward/Piven Strategy becomes doubly destructive. Talk about a perfect storm! The Democrat stimulus plan is a mechanism whose goal is the destruction of the traditional American way of life. It is bitter irony that the American taxpayer will actually fund the destruction of his own ability to live according to the values of our Founding Documents. It is not alarmist to identify this situation as a coup d'etat.

As the flow of money from the top of the economy dries up, job losses and mortgage busts will mount exponentially. The Democrat stimulus plan provides for welfare expansion but not for a robust economy that creates high paying jobs. Is this what Obama means when he warns, "It's going to get worse before it gets better?" If we are not bailing out corporate America so they can regain profitability, we must conclude Obama is working toward another end goal. Recognizing these attack methods reveals the only logical response -- an unwavering wall of "No!"
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starting??? dumb ass.... they are all the same

Obama is the chosen one for this rape and pillage


sure. call me names because I wanted to believe somebody with some say-so actually gave a damn about us. i'm sorry.

I just thought obama actually cared about the American people and now I'm starting to realize that not only is he not 'with' us, in less than one month in office it's clear, barak obama is against America.


does anybody know if this report is true?

Is President Obama actually trying to sneak a path to permanent citezenship for the tens of millions of undocumented workers in our counrty?

really?

has the entire American joblessness emergency gone right over his head? what is he thinking?
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Nobody cares about you especially Obama,You think your wife and kids care about you ,quit bringing home a paycheck and putting food on the table they will turn on you like a pack of wolves.It's every man for himself no holds barred.Wake the fuck up.Pussies damn all you.
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Don't be bitter, you can vote to give the Neocons a majority again next year and just think what a bunch of happy puppies we'll be then,
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You don't have to be 'commie-pinko' anti-America, pro-amnesty, let's slit our own throats, give it all away til there's nothing left, koolaid drinker to be a dem.
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See, that's why AC said you sound like a Republican.
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bumpfor shock and awe!
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Some will rob you with a six-gun,
And some with a fountain pen.

And as through your life you travel,
Yes, as through your life you roam,
You won't never see an outlaw
Drive a family from their home.
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starting??? dumb ass.... they are all the same

Obama is the chosen one for this rape and pillage


sure. call me names because I wanted to believe somebody with some say-so actually gave a damn about us. i'm sorry.

I just thought obama actually cared about the American people and now I'm starting to realize that not only is he not 'with' us, in less than one month in office it's clear, barak obama is against America.


does anybody know if this report is true?

Is President Obama actually trying to sneak a path to permanent citezenship for the tens of millions of undocumented workers in our counrty?

really?

has the entire American joblessness emergency gone right over his head? what is he thinking?
 Quoting: concerned Dem 606166

Why would Dobbs have any fucking reason to lie about this? Yes its true the Global elite are going to rip our asses wide open AND "KILL YOU". How's that for "CHANGE"?
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I'm just sitting here laughing sadly at anyone who actually believed Obama's many passionate speeches in the first place... are you guys serious? He's just a puppet for the true people in charge, just like every president has been.

No wonder our country is the way it is... full of trusting, blind sheep.
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imho, the problem lies with congress. they know that no matter who is elected president, they will be around much longer than the pres(limited to 8yrs. max).

until we the people rise up and force congress to term limits, it matters not who the president is b/c congress will do what is best for congress - and no one else.
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I can't stand what congress does, but I have to say term limits are not necessary. I heard a guy say that all you have to do is vote them out, and I have to agree. If people are too dumb to vote them out, let them live with 'em.
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Wow.. The hypnotism and Mind control worn off already?
McCain would have been the same. We have only 1 party in Congress. A big fraternity party and we are not in it.
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Meet the new piece of shit, same as the old piece of shit.
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Well he's bringing $1.3 trillion worth of chaaaaaange, and there is a lot of hope for the bankers, just none for you.
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Well he's bringing $1.3 trillion worth of chaaaaaange, and there is a lot of hope for the bankers, just none for you.
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Add that to the $8.5 trillion from Bush, and shit's looking good for the bankers. How high will they go.
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Read the jewish and israeli newspapers this weekend. As they themselves said, 'you can criticize God, but you cannot criticize jews'. They like to gloat and admitted that they are running the show. New boss same was the old boss. Why else would Obama appoint jew retreads from Clinton years in his administration? For Christ's sake, he even pulled Kissinger out of the rest home and brought him in to talk to Putin.

LOL, a lot of the Obongo koolaid drinkers are in for a big wakeup call.

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