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the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves

 
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the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
Its been a while since i posted under Health Threads

For todays Health threads, im going to tell you that the poor man's solution to in taking more antioxidants is to buy cinnamon and cloves spice powder and just eat the powder with liquid, like you would a pill

[link to oracvalues.com]

as you can see, Cloves has the #1 ORAC value, and Cinnamon the #3 ORAC Value out of all substances tested so far.

are you poor and cant afford antioxidant pills?

Or maybe you can only afford 2 or 3 different antioxidant pills but want to take 5 in all?

Well then , add cheap Cinnamon and Cloves to what you swallow.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
Thanks, I knew cinnamon was good, but I didn't know about
the cloves.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
I thought garlic was good too?
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
Get it organic at the health food store. Throw it in your breakfast oatmeal.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
I take cinnamon for my high blood pressure. It works great!
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
I thought garlic was good too?
 Quoting: coolhandluke74


Ok, yes, garlic is good too, its an antioxidant, it bares Sulfur compounds. Sure get Garlic Powder and Garlic Bulbs too.

But i thought id let you know that the #1 and #3 tested substances with the highest ORAC values happen to be two things that are pretty cheap sold as spices - cinnamon and cloves

by the way, both them have good levels of manganese, the mineral that composes the enzyme manganese superoxide dismutase used by mitochondria. So its a double antioxdant - 1 by the antioxidant chemicals inside of it, and 2 by having manganese so your body can make more Mn-SOD.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
buying the extreme dark chocolate bars that are more then 85% cocoa works too.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
Get it organic at the health food store. Throw it in your breakfast oatmeal.
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and if you cant afford it organic at the health food store, get it at the regular store. It will still have the antioxidant chemicals in it, in fact they smell VERY STRONG. if non organic cloves was stripped of the antioxidants, it also wouldnt have any smell or the taste it has, and we all know it still smells strong.

now if you can get it organic for more money, sure do that instead, if you cant, then get it at some ethnic cheap store that sells a lot of spices, or get it at safeway. Whatever, just get it.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
buying the extreme dark chocolate bars that are more then 85% cocoa works too.
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Yes this is high in polyphenols, but it has a lower ORAC value that cloves and cinnamon does, plus Cloves and Cinnamon is cheaper. (unless you buy cocoa powder which is hard to swallow)

Thats why i made this thread, just to let people know the #1 and #3 ORAC Valued substances happen to be cheap spices, just FYI.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
buying the extreme dark chocolate bars that are more then 85% cocoa works too.


Yes this is high in polyphenols, but it has a lower ORAC value that cloves and cinnamon does, plus Cloves and Cinnamon is cheaper. (unless you buy cocoa powder which is hard to swallow)

Thats why i made this thread, just to let people know the #1 and #3 ORAC Valued substances happen to be cheap spices, just FYI.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610679

yeah, but it's easier to eat larger amounts of the cocoa then it is cinnamon, unless you just chomp down whole sticks of it raw.

the healthy stuff will be quite bitter tasting though and take getting used to.
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thanks!
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
buying the extreme dark chocolate bars that are more then 85% cocoa works too.


Yes this is high in polyphenols, but it has a lower ORAC value that cloves and cinnamon does, plus Cloves and Cinnamon is cheaper. (unless you buy cocoa powder which is hard to swallow)

Thats why i made this thread, just to let people know the #1 and #3 ORAC Valued substances happen to be cheap spices, just FYI.

yeah, but it's easier to eat larger amounts of the cocoa then it is cinnamon, unless you just chomp down whole sticks of it raw.

the healthy stuff will be quite bitter tasting though and take getting used to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 606306


Are you going to spend the money on 30 chocolate bars per month and eat one a day? while you are at it, you might as well also get Cloves (the #1 highest ORAC) and cinnamon (#3) since they are so cheap.

pour a level-teaspoon like amount into the cap, put it in your mouth, then swallow it with liquid like you would a pill.

This is simply a cheap additional antioxidant, even if you also take antioxidant pills and eat dark chocolate bars. This contains things that cocoa does not, just as cocoa contains polyphenols that cloves do not.
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Good thread.
I've given you a 5 stars vote.
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thanks for the info op. Didn't mean to argue.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
Top Antioxidants and their respective ORAC Values (from site in first post):



Spices, cloves, ground 314,446
Sumac, bran, raw 312,400
Spices, cinnamon, ground 267,536
Sorghum, bran, hi-tannin 240,000
Spices, oregano, dried picture 200,129
Acai berry, freeze-dried 161,400
Spices, turmeric, ground 159,277
Sorghum, bran, black 100,800
Sumac, grain, raw 86,800
Cocoa, dry powder, unsweetened 80,933
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Good thread.
I've given you a 5 stars vote.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 609075


Thanks.

I also like Resveratrol because its more than just an antioxidant, its supposed to be regenerative via Sirt-1 Gene induction. So i combine Resveratrol to re-generate with antioxidant to slow down aging.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
buying the extreme dark chocolate bars that are more then 85% cocoa works too.


Yes this is high in polyphenols, but it has a lower ORAC value that cloves and cinnamon does, plus Cloves and Cinnamon is cheaper. (unless you buy cocoa powder which is hard to swallow)

Thats why i made this thread, just to let people know the #1 and #3 ORAC Valued substances happen to be cheap spices, just FYI.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610679

I get the un-sweetened bakers choc. and chop it up and thow it in with my trail mix. You'll get used to the bitter taste after a while.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
There are 2 different kinds of cinnamon... cassia (which is the most common) and true cinnamon. The cinnamon I had from a Chinese herbalist was so exquisite.

They are both good, but have slightly different healing qualities... look it up.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
I thought garlic was good too?
 Quoting: coolhandluke74



Spices, cloves, ground .. ORAC value: 314,446

Spices, cinnamon, ground ... ORAC value: 267,536

Garlic, raw ... ORAC value: 5,346

(PS: Check out the link from the Original Post)
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
I thought garlic was good too?


Ok, yes, garlic is good too, its an antioxidant, it bares Sulfur compounds. Sure get Garlic Powder and Garlic Bulbs too.

But i thought id let you know that the #1 and #3 tested substances with the highest ORAC values happen to be two things that are pretty cheap sold as spices - cinnamon and cloves

by the way, both them have good levels of manganese, the mineral that composes the enzyme manganese superoxide dismutase used by mitochondria. So its a double antioxdant - 1 by the antioxidant chemicals inside of it, and 2 by having manganese so your body can make more Mn-SOD.
 Quoting: Health Threads 610679

u must eat the unchopped whole peeled uncooked garlic cloves 2 or 3 drenched in extra virgin first cold pressed olive oil on completely cleaned veggies or baked potato or hot chicken soups for the natural antibiotic effects..you cannot build up immunity to antibiotic effects of fresh uncooked whole peeled rinsed garlics As in drug store antibiotics. .asthmatics breath much better too .do it twice daily if. possible ..it even gradually rids parasites from intestines nd colon and naturally over time cleans colon sludge buildup, and keeps it clean for life if you use it for life..also use it with a little dry red wine, it helps cut the bite of the whole garlic cloves .Cabernet Savignon is even recomended by doctors to assist in keeping arteries clean also, even in the brain. a four ounces glass twice daily with lunch and dinner .positively do not drive a vehicle for one hour after drinking the 4 ounce of wine.
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
good timing! i just replenished my whole cloves tonight..and tossed in with the cinnamon sticks is the two main things i simmer in my hot cider.

going to make some now! i love to chew real cinnamon sticks, and so do the kids, hot stuff tho!
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Re: the two most powerful antioxidant spices are cinnamon and cloves
Well then , add cheap Cinnamon and Cloves to what you swallow.
 Quoting: Health Threads 610679


Clove is toxic. It isn't sold as a health supplement.
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Cinnamon and banaba are excellent for diabetes and blood disorders
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Who here is willing to admit that they're old enough to remember Clove gum? Step to the front of the room, please!


Ladies and Gentleman, please sit back and relax. We have a special treat for you today. Coming all the way from your memoryies we give you, the lady of the night, the gangster of gum, the more sophisticated gum chewer, I present to you, something that will take you back to the good old days. Something all you old timers out there will surely enjoy and remember as this blog goes by. Let me take you back to your local music hall, or a hole in the wall club, where the women would sit a top the piano, with a stiff drink in one hand and a long clove cigarette in the other, entertaining crowds all through the early hours of the morning. Singing soft ballads of a new love on the way and a lover now gone. With the dim lights spilling onto the stage. The smoke that fogs the room. The smell of cheap drinks and thrills had by all. All you can see in the hall are the lit embers of the ends of cigarettes bouncing up and down in conversations. The smoke filling the air around their heads makes up the atmosphere of the clove gum.

Clove gum takes you back to those days when everything seemed right in the world. Back when you pop would get a shave and the Corleone family would stop in for a visit. Of course I’m a young man and know nothing of these days, but they remind of old musicals my grandmother used to make me watch when I was a young kid. The smell of grandpa’s smoking jacket smells like that of the clove cigarette. One pop of this stick and you will know exactly what I am talking about. It has a distinct smell and distinct flavor to it. I myself have had a few clove cigarettes and can testify that these are exactly what they taste like. Clove gum tastes exactly like clove cigarettes. Smooth. Cool. You feel like the gangster outside New York City. Or the lady on the piano singing your audience into a daze. You will not be let down, and brought back to the time when clove cigarettes helped define this era.

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Well then , add cheap Cinnamon and Cloves to what you swallow.


Clove is toxic. It isn't sold as a health supplement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 476478


I used too much clove in a pumpkin pie once, really irritates the colon!!

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