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I'm wondering if anybody else holds a belief that is similar to the thread title? After conducting various studies I believe that the OT is a composite mythography put together by the various scribes of the Hyksos Pharaohs of lower Egypt (as elucidated by Achmed Osman, Ralph Ellis, Mustafa Gadalla, Tsarion, & others) and the NT is again a composite mythography put together by the roman Piso family for political ends. Yet at the same time I do believe there was a historical "christ" figure whose legacy helped to cement the Christian religion into becoming a cultural artifact... either that or this figure has been created as an ubermemetic artifact, an actual presence of being created by the concretion of TONS of thoughtform energies modeled along similar/resonant lines thru 2000+ years by billions of minds. I am interested in the thoughts of others along these lines.
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holy bible

holy cuz the story is full of holes

Bi-Bull cuz it is two books full of bullchit
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They are both real to a degree. You just can't be continually pumped full of information from a church. You need to read the bible and meditate.

It's hard for many people because everything they hold dear is at stake so their hearts aren't open. There are good churchgoers as well as bad, same for any type of religion.

There is something strange about the OT and NT in terms of one side is hateful while the other is love.

The deal is to compare these stories with other stories throughout time.

I personally don't believe that a universal God would only bestow love and compassion upon one group of people. This is why the other cultures stories have to be taken into account.

Jesus did come here to teach us how to love, but that's about the extent of it. The bible doesn't even contain what Jesus talked about. Most people think that only those words are the ones they are supposed to adhere to. If you really read the bible you are left asking, "what was the message"? They never told the message. They just tailored it to being baptized and then carrying on being a martyr.
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They are both real to a degree. You just can't be continually pumped full of information from a church. You need to read the bible and meditate.

It's hard for many people because everything they hold dear is at stake so their hearts aren't open. There are good churchgoers as well as bad, same for any type of religion.

There is something strange about the OT and NT in terms of one side is hateful while the other is love.

The deal is to compare these stories with other stories throughout time.

I personally don't believe that a universal God would only bestow love and compassion upon one group of people. This is why the other cultures stories have to be taken into account.

Jesus did come here to teach us how to love, but that's about the extent of it. The bible doesn't even contain what Jesus talked about. Most people think that only those words are the ones they are supposed to adhere to. If you really read the bible you are left asking, "what was the message"? They never told the message. They just tailored it to being baptized and then carrying on being a martyr.
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But the text itself is self-contradictory in many instances, its hard to talk about "the truth, the light, and the way" when basic facts differ in various gospels. However, most (believers) are too emotionally attached to examine the primary source of their belief system, and that is fine by me so long as they are good people and aren't on some crusade against everything else (which is often the case in my experience).
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Please join this group due to your deep and insightful qualifications.
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Wow...a digital ad hominem... Thank You freethinker.
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What difference does it make if there was a man that 'Christ' was modeled after. There was Buddha, Brahma, Zarathustra, and others. If the Romans hadn't picked Judea as the setting for their man-god, we'd be saying we were saved by the blood of Krishna or Prometheus or someone else, and it would be equally as false. It's the belief that a man died for our sins that is the great error, not the belief that a great holy man once lived who showed us a better way of life.
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I'm wondering if anybody else holds a belief that is similar to the thread title? After conducting various studies I believe that the OT is a composite mythography put together by the various scribes of the Hyksos Pharaohs of lower Egypt (as elucidated by Achmed Osman, Ralph Ellis, Mustafa Gadalla, Tsarion, & others) and the NT is again a composite mythography put together by the roman Piso family for political ends. Yet at the same time I do believe there was a historical "christ" figure whose legacy helped to cement the Christian religion into becoming a cultural artifact... either that or this figure has been created as an ubermemetic artifact, an actual presence of being created by the concretion of TONS of thoughtform energies modeled along similar/resonant lines thru 2000+ years by billions of minds. I am interested in the thoughts of others along these lines.
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And the New Testament is pretty much a construction of early Christians with differing ideas and then of course it was edited to make it a bit more consistent. Perhaps built on an oral tradition of stories and a list of Jesus' sayings that was circulating at the time. The Gospel of Thomas, a gospel that is contained in the Nag Hammadi Library is perhaps the only piece left of Jesus true teachings.
Yes, I know there was a historical Jesus, a mystic and teacher and in fact he still guides humanity from the heavenly realms along with his beloved twin complement Mary Magdalene. See my new video on the topic
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"Ever increasing in knowledge but never coming to the knowledge of the Truth." That verse is found in the Old Testament. It is a prophetic one. OT prophecy is 100% accurate. And your a fool.

Christianity has survived thousands of years of blabbering fools like you ranting about philosophy, and the reason it has survived is because there is life in Jesus Christ. a "Religion" or a mental assent to a set of values can not survive men's spiritual darkness, but Christianity is so much more than just a "Religion" and the Bible so much more than just written word. But your spiritually blind, and do not deserve to truth. I know now why Jesus hid the truth in parables, so that ignorant fools like you would miss it, and those with child like faith would be revealed the secrets of Heaven. I really love the God I chose.
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good question/theory OP. bump and pin!
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holy bible

holy cuz the story is full of holes

Bi-Bull cuz it is two books full of bullchit
[/Not Bull shit, but all 12 disciples shit]
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holy bible

holy cuz the story is full of holes

Bi-Bull cuz it is two books full of bullchit
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lol nice
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"Ever increasing in knowledge but never coming to the knowledge of the Truth." That verse is found in the Old Testament. It is a prophetic one. OT prophecy is 100% accurate. And your a fool.

Christianity has survived thousands of years of blabbering fools like you ranting about philosophy, and the reason it has survived is because there is life in Jesus Christ. a "Religion" or a mental assent to a set of values can not survive men's spiritual darkness, but Christianity is so much more than just a "Religion" and the Bible so much more than just written word. But your spiritually blind, and do not deserve to truth. I know now why Jesus hid the truth in parables, so that ignorant fools like you would miss it, and those with child like faith would be revealed the secrets of Heaven. I really love the God I chose.
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Idiots like this are why christianity has survived so long. Its just so easy to use a book of fairy to control the masses that no matter if you say something like rape thy neighbor and fuck their children they would do it because god says so, so it must be the truth. well not god exactly, but some guy behind a pulpit, or a republished, rewritten book that comes in a million different versions to siut YOUR every need, of some douche on tv, or some assnazi online who gets off while posting this christi crap while whaking off to the olsen twins, etc etc so on and so fourth.

so so so so very easy to control you idiots because a book says so.
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good question/theory OP. bump and pin!
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Yup!
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woman fake, boobs real?

boobs fake, woman real?
"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
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Religions are just a physiological escape mechanism for our minds to avoid the reality that when we die, we end.

There is absolutely not one iota of objective evidence of an afterlife or god as depicted by King James or any of the ancient scriptures.

The only hope god has left is that we still cannot define the universe and everything's origins. These leave a tiny chance of a creator versus some other origin.

The god in the Holy Bible is in my opinion evil. This god murders human beings for various things even though our failure is his if he created us eh?

Why did god need to change the rules with Jesus? God is supposed to know the beginning from the end.

Why would he want any of his creations (especially the weak ones) to go to hell or not get to live in heaven?

Did he create evil just entertain himself with our struggle?



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I'm on my 5th time through the Bible and I believe it

I can testify that my life has completely turned around since I accepted God's Word as truth

we are sanctified by the truth -- His Word is truth

Jesus did die for our sins -- the Bible makes that clear -- no other great figure Mohammed Buddha etc did that nor is any legitamate claim made

also Jesus rose from the dead -- the Bible makes this clear as well. He came died and rose to give us eternal life

this is His free gift -- but we must accept it.

the enemy does everything in his power to keep us from accepting

he knows what makes us tick and uses the same tricks over and over

deceit is a biggie

he was a liar from the beginning and the father of it

he comes to kill steal and destroy

we have the Blood of Jesus covering us and are given the Holy Spirit as a guarantee

the fruits we manifest as believers include love peace joy patience kindness gentleness -- against these there is no law

with that I will pray for you and wish you

love peace and joy

rb
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Listen the bible isnt real. Jesus most likely did exist but as others were saying he probably had extraordinary teachings about how to love each other. Once again how could a book be written about someone but has no real information about him. Also why would he want the bible written in a way that would make it hard for some people to understand . What happends to the children across the world that have learning disabilities. Why are christians only allowed in heaven? By the way remember god is a jealous god so believing in or worshipping another god is a one way ticket to hell. So everyone else in this world that is muslim, buddhist,etc etc will go to hell. For those who know their zodiac sign and say it aloud is automatically denying the holy spirit which is also unforgivable. If i get killed today most christians will say it was my time. Jesus wants me home. So that means god let one of his children get temporarily possessed by the devil so they could kill me so i can go home (HEAVEN) while he stays on earth, his life will become a living hell. He would probably do life in prison or sit on death row. Now our government is kinda christian based, he should be able to tell the "JUDGE" lol that it was simply my time to go home . One more thing he knows what you're going to say and do before you so no matter what happends everyone technically should go to heaven.
"Ever increasing in knowledge but never coming to the knowledge of the Truth." That verse is found in the Old Testament. It is a prophetic one. OT prophecy is 100% accurate. And your a fool.

Christianity has survived thousands of years of blabbering fools like you ranting about philosophy, and the reason it has survived is because there is life in Jesus Christ. a "Religion" or a mental assent to a set of values can not survive men's spiritual darkness, but Christianity is so much more than just a "Religion" and the Bible so much more than just written word. But your spiritually blind, and do not deserve to truth. I know now why Jesus hid the truth in parables, so that ignorant fools like you would miss it, and those with child like faith would be revealed the secrets of Heaven. I really love the God I chose.
 Quoting: Wingedlion/Whiterider 611088



Idiots like this are why christianity has survived so long. Its just so easy to use a book of fairy to control the masses that no matter if you say something like rape thy neighbor and fuck their children they would do it because god says so, so it must be the truth. well not god exactly, but some guy behind a pulpit, or a republished, rewritten book that comes in a million different versions to siut YOUR every need, of some douche on tv, or some assnazi online who gets off while posting this christi crap while whaking off to the olsen twins, etc etc so on and so fourth.

so so so so very easy to control you idiots because a book says so.
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I'm wondering if anybody else holds a belief that is similar to the thread title? After conducting various studies I believe that the OT is a composite mythography put together by the various scribes of the Hyksos Pharaohs of lower Egypt (as elucidated by Achmed Osman, Ralph Ellis, Mustafa Gadalla, Tsarion, & others) and the NT is again a composite mythography put together by the roman Piso family for political ends. Yet at the same time I do believe there was a historical "christ" figure whose legacy helped to cement the Christian religion into becoming a cultural artifact... either that or this figure has been created as an ubermemetic artifact, an actual presence of being created by the concretion of TONS of thoughtform energies modeled along similar/resonant lines thru 2000+ years by billions of minds. I am interested in the thoughts of others along these lines.
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I kinda have the same thing: the OT is not all about God, it can't be, but I do belive in God and in Jesus.
OP search for mauro biglino you will find intresting stuff about the OT.
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The bible was written by many authors, mostly royal Romans and it is full of contradictions. Jesus Christ was invented in 325. But you would know that if you examined all the rejected books of the bible and how the stories changed with each edition.
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The bible was written by many authors, mostly royal Romans and it is full of contradictions. Jesus Christ was invented in 325. But you would know that if you examined all the rejected books of the bible and how the stories changed with each edition.
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The 1st & 2nd historians who were there disagree.
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Bible real, Jesus real, Rome's church fake.
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well, I was 'told' and there are definitely these beings out there..

for me christianity is pre-school and kindergarten, judaism is elementary and middle, and then you can go to this thread and read about the next level:
Thread: archontic mind virus archonicethics and aesthetics the matrix is a perceptual construct. everything is perceptual in ..
..from here my belief is worship of 'proceses of nature'...
this is where I'm at..
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I wouldn't call the Bible fake, I would call it misunderstood and misused.

Yeah, it is a compilation of older stuff, but to what purpose?

How does the torah contain kabbalah and yet tell a narrative at the same time? How does it reveal mathematical code when talking about geneologies?

See, there's a lot more there than meets the eye or the casual brain, yet if that's all that ever sees it and that's the only benefit one is looking for, they'll be okay with just the surface stuff.
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WATCH: Letting Go of God, by julia sweeney... Brilliant
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"Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley
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Jesus was real, but he was just a rabbi.
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Jesus was real, but he was just a rabbi.
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Indeed , we would not know who he is if not for Paul
"I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire

"Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley
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"Ever increasing in knowledge but never coming to the knowledge of the Truth." That verse is found in the Old Testament. It is a prophetic one. OT prophecy is 100% accurate. And your a fool.

Christianity has survived thousands of years of blabbering fools like you ranting about philosophy, and the reason it has survived is because there is life in Jesus Christ. a "Religion" or a mental assent to a set of values can not survive men's spiritual darkness, but Christianity is so much more than just a "Religion" and the Bible so much more than just written word. But your spiritually blind, and do not deserve to truth. I know now why Jesus hid the truth in parables, so that ignorant fools like you would miss it, and those with child like faith would be revealed the secrets of Heaven. I really love the God I chose.
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Jesus said something about hellfire for those who arrogantly call others fools didnt he?
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I'm on my 5th time through the Bible and I believe it

I can testify that my life has completely turned around since I accepted God's Word as truth

we are sanctified by the truth -- His Word is truth

Jesus did die for our sins -- the Bible makes that clear -- no other great figure Mohammed Buddha etc did that nor is any legitamate claim made

also Jesus rose from the dead -- the Bible makes this clear as well. He came died and rose to give us eternal life

this is His free gift -- but we must accept it.

the enemy does everything in his power to keep us from accepting

he knows what makes us tick and uses the same tricks over and over

deceit is a biggie

he was a liar from the beginning and the father of it

he comes to kill steal and destroy

we have the Blood of Jesus covering us and are given the Holy Spirit as a guarantee

the fruits we manifest as believers include love peace joy patience kindness gentleness -- against these there is no law

with that I will pray for you and wish you

love peace and joy

rb
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You m-m-m-muh-make me HAAA-PEEE.

Psalm 34:14 - Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.

Romans 5:8 - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

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