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Warning to those taking St Johns Wort - St Johns Wort is the strongest P-450 Inducer ive ever taken.

 
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Warning to those taking St Johns Wort - St Johns Wort is the strongest P-450 Inducer ive ever taken.
Now i can barely feel anything else.

you better not take St Johns Wort if you are on any other herbs or drugs

this stuff is a stronger CYP inducer than tegretol

St Johns will totally murder birth control and render it uneffective as well as other drugs

they should put a warning on the lable

in vivo and in vitro both show its a strong inducer of CYP3A4

Man when i take st johns wort, i can barely feel my tramadol, and caffeine which normally makes me anxious and stimulated cant even effect me,
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Re: Warning to those taking St Johns Wort - St Johns Wort is the strongest P-450 Inducer ive ever taken.
Hyperforin Binds to the Pregnane X Receptor causing a massive induction of drug and herb metabolizing CYP3A4

CLick here for a picture of hyperfoin, the chemical found in St Johns Wort:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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02/13/2009 12:51 PM
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Re: Warning to those taking St Johns Wort - St Johns Wort is the strongest P-450 Inducer ive ever taken.
Now i can barely feel anything else.

you better not take St Johns Wort if you are on any other herbs or drugs

this stuff is a stronger CYP inducer than tegretol

St Johns will totally murder birth control and render it uneffective as well as other drugs

they should put a warning on the lable

in vivo and in vitro both show its a strong inducer of CYP3A4

Man when i take st johns wort, i can barely feel my tramadol, and caffeine which normally makes me anxious and stimulated cant even effect me,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 614270


I used it for a while and it does calm one down...but it made my eyes so sensative that I have to get off of it.
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Re: Warning to those taking St Johns Wort - St Johns Wort is the strongest P-450 Inducer ive ever taken.
I think you are confused.





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Re: Warning to those taking St Johns Wort - St Johns Wort is the strongest P-450 Inducer ive ever taken.
bump for truth

you take St Johns Wort, and everything else you take will become weakened and have shorter half-lifes, because the stuff is such a strong CYP Inducer.
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02/22/2009 12:59 AM
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Re: Warning to those taking St Johns Wort - St Johns Wort is the strongest P-450 Inducer ive ever taken.
Now i can barely feel anything else.

you better not take St Johns Wort if you are on any other herbs or drugs

this stuff is a stronger CYP inducer than tegretol

St Johns will totally murder birth control and render it uneffective as well as other drugs

they should put a warning on the lable

in vivo and in vitro both show its a strong inducer of CYP3A4

Man when i take st johns wort, i can barely feel my tramadol, and caffeine which normally makes me anxious and stimulated cant even effect me,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 614270

You have my interest- I take Tramadol, I have a liver condition, and a doc suggested it and medical marijuana. I take Tramadol for pain. So if I stop the st johns wart I can expect it to be more effective? I thought the st johns helped normalized liver function. I thought it would aid in liver metabolism. I do not understand technical terms like CYP inducer. Perhaps there is a safe middle ground. I am a male, so birth control is not a worry-

guess it makes sense, the wart seems to help the liver resist inflamation, so there must be an action it has on meds- lessening their effect, in essence, wekening them, allowing them to pass out with the other toxins.

just askin....
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Re: Warning to those taking St Johns Wort - St Johns Wort is the strongest P-450 Inducer ive ever taken.
Sounds like it works. Thanks for the testimony, and get off the caffeine!
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Re: Warning to those taking St Johns Wort - St Johns Wort is the strongest P-450 Inducer ive ever taken.
Now i can barely feel anything else.

you better not take St Johns Wort if you are on any other herbs or drugs

this stuff is a stronger CYP inducer than tegretol

St Johns will totally murder birth control and render it uneffective as well as other drugs

they should put a warning on the lable

in vivo and in vitro both show its a strong inducer of CYP3A4

Man when i take st johns wort, i can barely feel my tramadol, and caffeine which normally makes me anxious and stimulated cant even effect me,

You have my interest- I take Tramadol, I have a liver condition, and a doc suggested it and medical marijuana. I take Tramadol for pain. So if I stop the st johns wart I can expect it to be more effective? I thought the st johns helped normalized liver function. I thought it would aid in liver metabolism. I do not understand technical terms like CYP inducer. Perhaps there is a safe middle ground. I am a male, so birth control is not a worry-

guess it makes sense, the wart seems to help the liver resist inflamation, so there must be an action it has on meds- lessening their effect, in essence, wekening them, allowing them to pass out with the other toxins.

just askin....
 Quoting: WalkerTalker


affirmative, its possible your Tramadol is weakened by St Johns Wort.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

scroll down to inducers

this is not just in tons of medical journals, but anyone can tell with first hand experience, they can notice the difference when taking St Johns, how their CYP enzymes go up in production and that in turn metabolizes other things they take much faster.

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