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Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives
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2/14/2009 6:15 PM
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Sugar Therapy for Wound Management
When someone gets a wound in the field, and medical facilities are not an option, the First Responder or Primary Care Provider must treat and manage the wound him/herself. One of the biggest risks with wounds is infection. Time is important as the wound needs to be treated immediately to provide the greatest chance of avoiding infection.
If the medic has access to antibiotics such as Cefoxitin or Unasyn, and the training and resources to use them properly, that's great.
If however the medic doesn't have the proper antibiotics available or can't afford them, then alternatives are indicated.
One such proven alternative is Sugar Therapy. Both sugar and honey have been used for thousands of years to keep wounds from getting infected, and to treat those wounds that are already infected.
According to the European Journal of Clinical Microbiology & Infectious Diseases (1988, pg.525), the use of granulated sugar for the treatment of wounds is not only practical, but may also be a treatment of first choice. And researchers Jorge Chirife & Leon Herszage claim that granulated sugar is a nonspecific universal antimicrobial agent in their study of bacterial growth inhibition in concentrated sugar solutions:
[link to www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov]
Here are the basic steps for wound management with household granulated sugar:
1. Control bleeding (direct pressure & elevation, or a pressure bandage, pressure points, etc.)
2. Irrigate the wound (flush it out with purified water so it's free of contaminates)
3. Debride the wound (trim off any damaged tissue)
4. Bandage normally & wait a few hours to ensure the bleeding has stopped and is not likely to return.
5. Pour sugar into a deep wound & fill it completely. If it's a shallow superficial wound, form a salve with heated vegetable lard or Vasaline so that the sugar will stick to the wound. Don't use water.
6. Re-bandage the wound.
7. Change out the sugar by irrigation & repacking the wound from 1 to 4 times a day in order to refresh its action. Otherwise, it will become counterproductive by absorbing body fluid secretions, forming a diluted syrup that will become food for the bacteria, complicating the injury.
This treatment can take from several days to several weeks to heal an infected wound.
If you have Providone-iodine (PI) handy, you can increase the potential of this sugar treatment by soaking the sugar in the PI to create a Sugar/PI salve. Replace the sugar in the wound with the sugar/PI salve. And, whenever dressing the wound, add a PI-soaked gauze sponge directly over the wound, under the dressing.
The sugar/PI salve is also made commercially under the name of Sugardyne. It's basically a 66%-80% sugar, and 20%-33% Providone iodine (10%) salve used for wounds and thresh in horses. But, it's so easy to make, and so universal in application, that you can easily make up and store large batches yourself.
Here are a couple of links on Sugardyne/Sugardine:
[link to www.horses-and-ponies.com]
[link to www.medscape.com]
Sugar as a wound treatment comes from the ancient use of honey in wound management. The ancient Egyptians used to pack honey into wounds to keep them from getting infected.
Here's some info. on honey's use in wound management:
[link to www.worldwidewounds.com]
[link to www.appliedhealth.com]
This last link shows abstracts of different therapies, including honey as well as maggot debridement therapy (MDT).
In conclusion, if you're in a desparate situation, and you don't have antibiotics for wound care, you can still have strong wound therapy options in your first-aid or trauma kit. Make up a cheap homemade batch of Sugardyne, and keep a small crush-proof bottle in your first-aid kit. Then store the rest in bottles in your portable medicine chest, along with your herbal alternatives to antibiotics, other healing herbal preparations, meds, disinfectants, IV kits, surgical kit, and bandages, airways, etc. You do have a portable medicine chest, don't you?
Peace.
- referenced from Ditch Medicine, by Hugh L. Coffee, and The Herbal Medicine-Maker's Handbook, by James Green. |
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Anonymous Coward
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2/14/2009 6:16 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
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User ID: 615181 (OP)
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2/14/2009 7:35 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
The basic theory behind Sugar Therapy is that concentrated sugar draws out & absorbs any moisture surrounding it, as in a hygroscopic effect. In so doing, it draws the moisture out of micro-oganisms in contact with it through a type of osmotic action. This actually dehydrates the microbes.
The dehydrated microbes cannot thrive, and they cannot reproduce. Their impact on tissues is then negated. This neutralization of the microbes then allows the wound to heal naturally.
Sugar therapy & honey therapy both seem to work the same way. And honey therapy is also believed to be useful in treating antibiotic-resistent strains of bacteria.
[link to annieappleseedproject.org]
Once again, some natural & ancient remedies have proven themselves quite useful, even in today's age.
Peace. |
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User ID: 615181 (OP)
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2/14/2009 9:01 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Wound Management Using Sugar:
[link to www.hungarovet.com]
- excerpted from Mathews KA, Binnington AG: Wound management using sugar. Compend Contin Educ Pract Vet 24(1):41–50, 2002. |
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Anonymous Coward
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2/14/2009 9:22 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
OP is right. One time we had a cow who, after calving, kept pushing and pushed her whole uterus right out into the great outdoors. Yuk. The vet came and asked for -- sugar ! After thoroughly washing the inside-out uterus with antiseptic solution (you can imagine everything that was sticking to it), we lifted it up and laid it on a tarp and completely coated it with sugar. The sugar shrunk the inflamed tissues enough so that they could be stuffed back inside the cow, and also served to help prevent infection. Surprisingly enough, the cow survived . . . |
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Anonymous Coward
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2/14/2009 9:38 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Honey can be used as well since it is a natural antiseptic |
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User ID: 615181 (OP)
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2/14/2009 10:01 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
OP is right. One time we had a cow who, after calving, kept pushing and pushed her whole uterus right out into the great outdoors. Yuk. The vet came and asked for -- sugar ! After thoroughly washing the inside-out uterus with antiseptic solution (you can imagine everything that was sticking to it), we lifted it up and laid it on a tarp and completely coated it with sugar. The sugar shrunk the inflamed tissues enough so that they could be stuffed back inside the cow, and also served to help prevent infection. Surprisingly enough, the cow survived . . . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 615116
Cool, so it acted as an anti-inflammatory as well. |
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User ID: 615181 (OP)
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2/14/2009 10:04 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Honey can be used as well since it is a natural antiseptic Quoting: Anonymous Coward 607165
Right, and it seems useful against antibiotic-resistant MSRA as well.
[link to www.associatedcontent.com] |
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2/14/2009 10:18 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Quoting: Got Questions? 615181
it is effective in some cases. it is also being used in home health agencies on a trial basis as well, just to let you know.
interesting thread. thank you for the information |
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Joe Six Pack
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2/14/2009 11:51 PM
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I don't remember. |
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Los_Suorovinrac
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2/15/2009 12:18 AM
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Awesome ty. I thought I had read that somewhere.
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Anonymous Coward
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2/15/2009 12:38 AM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
I wouldn't take the sugar internally though. I don't see where it's necessary when you could take bee propolis,("propolis" translated from the Greek languagee means "defenses before a town") garlic, oil of oregano, olive leaf extract, colloidal silver, etc. |
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Anonymous Coward
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2/15/2009 12:51 AM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Good info. Sugar is very close to alcohol molecularly.
Honey does work very well on burns and wounds, the honey made from Tea Tree(maracusa?) is said to be an extra potent healer.
I use honey to emulsify essential oils for use topically or in a bath. Many healing salves can be made this way. |
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Anonymous Coward
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2/15/2009 1:15 AM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Babies are always getting ear infections. What do you do for that? |
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User ID: 615181 (OP)
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2/15/2009 2:10 AM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
I wouldn't take the sugar internally though. I don't see where it's necessary when you could take bee propolis,("propolis" translated from the Greek languagee means "defenses before a town") garlic, oil of oregano, olive leaf extract, colloidal silver, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 615354
Right, sugar & honey are topical treatments only, except as sugar is applied in surgery to affected organs.
There is nothing medicinally gained by consuming it orally that I know of. |
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Enigma
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2/15/2009 2:20 AM
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One of the BEST books you can buy, and where I learned of sugar therapy is called Ditch Medicine...
Look it up on amazon
DITCH MEDICINE
"knowing and not DOING, is like NOT KNOWING at all" |
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2/15/2009 3:08 AM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
One of the BEST books you can buy, and where I learned of sugar therapy is called Ditch Medicine...
Look it up on amazon
DITCH MEDICINE Quoting: Enigma
LOL! That's where I got the initial information for this post.
There is much more however on Sugar Therapy on the Net.
Good stuff.
Peace. |
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Enigma
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2/15/2009 3:14 AM
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yes I didn't see the last line of you post until after I posted...
BTW sugardyne is a betadine sugar mix you can buy or make yourself...
iodine and sugar...
"knowing and not DOING, is like NOT KNOWING at all" |
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2/15/2009 4:26 AM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
Babies are always getting ear infections. What do you do for that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 594943
Disclaimer: I'm neither a doctor, nor do I play one on TV. And nothing I write here should be construed as medical advice. Everything here is for informational purposes only.
First, ear infections can be serious, so a visit to your pediatrician is always needed first.
Ear infections are mostly connected with eustachian tube problems and allergies. And many of the global common denominators involve day care, wood-burning stoves, parental smoking, ore bottle-feeding babies.
It seems that breast-feeding on the other hand helps the babies develop resistances against these infections. Or possibly they might have developed an allergy to cow's milk.
The standard treatment in conventional medicine is to feed the babies antibiotics, pain killers and decongestants. If the infections get too bad, they'll offer to surgically implant drainage tubes thru the eardrum. Antibiotics really haven't proven to do very much to help with these cases. And they also contribute to bacterial mutations that morph into antibiotic-resistant superbugs. And ear tubes are barbaric and not a very good idea in most cases.
A Naturalpathic approach to this problem might be to focus on possible food allergies. Breast feeding for the 1st 4+ months is recommended to help the baby to build up his/her immunity. Baby-safe immuno-enhancers would be helpful too.
Taking steps to eliminate any possible food allergies should greatly help in most cases. Once they are off breast milk, watch and document their diet carefully. Look for reactions. Common allergen foods that small children should stay away from include: cow's milk, wheat, egg white, peanuts, soy, corn, tomatoes, chicken and apple.
Humidifiers have shown to help also.
Peace. |
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rustgrip
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2/15/2009 7:50 AM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
ditch medicne sounds like it could be a good one. i am going to try to order it tommorrow. thanks op |
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2/15/2009 11:30 AM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
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SouthernLight 
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2/15/2009 12:00 PM
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Wow! Excellent information and links OP!
Thanks!
Here are two links to Ditch Medicine for downloading a pdf
[link to www.scribd.com]
[link to www.scribd.com]
in case anyone wants a copy
Thanks again!
"Well behaved women rarely make history." |
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2/15/2009 1:23 PM | |
TX PATRIOT
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7/8/2009 4:17 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
DITCH MEDICINE
Useful Info, Bringin' It Back to the Fore Bump
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samgreen
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7/8/2009 4:28 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
here hereDITCH MEDICINE
Useful Info, Bringin' It Back to the Fore Bump
. Quoting: TX PATRIOT 719500 |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/8/2009 4:42 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
I know that if you eat LOCAL ORGANIC HONEY it helps as a preventative measure against allergies and sinus infections. |
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Anonymous Coward
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7/8/2009 5:03 PM | | Re: Recession Proof GLP... More Antibiotic Alternatives | Quote |
APPLE CIDAR VINAGER GARGLE FOR SOAR THROAT OR STREP THROAT
A gargle made from apple cider vinegar and water a great relief for a sore throat - be that a bacterial or virus infection. The solution is a 50/50 mixture, and it is best to spit out the solution after gargling, which should be repeated every hour. After gargling rinse the mouth with clean water to prevent the acid from eroding the enamel on your teeth.
YOU CAN USE APPLE CIDER VINAGER FOR ALMOST ANYTHING...HERE IS THE LINK [link to www.anyvitamins.com] |
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aLeopards
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7/8/2009 5:33 PM
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vinegar water suitable for all.
oregano about time?
Brother sun, intuition moon. Home at the forest.
Sure every post I have mentions goat blood...How do you think we get plasma tv's?
Organic needs are being assaulted. I'm not amused by this & encourage all to grow heirloom seed for themselves.
The garden gives greatest power.
Diabetes curing food list [Forget the FDA - Think for yourself]:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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