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Dubya is toast....He said the "P" word

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Anonymous Coward
10/20/2004 1:08 PM
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link: [link to www.alternet.org]

dubya :cryriver:
Fogmatix
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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He ain´t toast, his spin doctors will explain how is opponents ´misconstrued´ his words and this will make no difference. as ever.
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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post please
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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Timing out - can´t get there?
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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link isn´t working
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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site seems to be down

op -- why not post?
Senator John Blutarsky
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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P word??
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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Did you hear what the monkey shitheep said at his major address the other day?

" As I stood in the rubble of the world trade canter on september 4th 2001".

The motherfucker is nuts, plane and simple.
Descaro
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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Uh oh, Bush said prosperity again!

Cheney is out back with him right now.
Swamp Thing
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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Alternet seems down. Must be a juicy story.

Can you paraphrase or something?
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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Does that mean Dubya called Kerry a pussy? If so, most would agree with him!

gwdance
Swamp Thing
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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OP you´re just a big tease!
Fogmatix
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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No, I read this article 2 days ago. Bush said SS would be privatized.
Swamp Thing
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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Yeesh.

Decided to sex the headline up a bit, no?
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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1:20 ya deluded fuck. "most" my ass. "most" would agree you´re a pussy!
Caff
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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This is odd...

I did a Google search on Alternet + "P word" and there are multiple hits on the article...but I can´t get them to work!

Now why is that?

I´ve never known Alternet to be down. Ever.

The P-word is PRIVATIZATION, by the way. Of Social Security.

I am trying furiously to find a cached copy - the article was posted 10/18 - and I will c/p it if I find it.

This is all I´ve got:

"Bush Said the "P" Word. Has George Bush blown his re-election by saying just one word? by David Corn, AlterNet."

""Bush Says The ´P´ Word: Privatization (Of Social Security)," by David Corn, Alternet,
Oct. 18, 2004."

I´m hoping to find a blog with some substantial quotes at the very least.
Caff
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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OK - David Corn´s blog has it:

October 17, 2004

Has Bush Blown His Reelection with One Word?

The New York Times today endorsed John Kerry. No surprise there. But it´s true gift to Kerry was an article that appeared in the paper´s magazine on the same day. In the piece, Ron Suskind--the veteran political reporter who did damage to the Bush White House with his book on ex-Treasury Secretary Paul O´Neill--reported that last month at a confidential luncheon with big-money supporters (the RNC Regents), Bush said, "I´m going to come out strong after my swearing in with fundamental tax reform, tort reform, privatizing of Social Security." The privatizing of Social Security? Everyone in politics knows a candidate is not supposed to say that. Bush has been trained--with a rolled-up newspaper?--to talk about Social Security "reform," not privatization. Mentioning the P-word is a major slip-up (almost as bad politically--perhaps worse--than invading another country by mistake). As soon as the newspaper his breakfast tables across the nation, a Kerry aide emailed me a note:

This Social Security privatization stuff from Bush is a huge gift. Huge.

And the campaign cut a television ad within nanoseconds of the story´s release. Here´s the script:

The truth is coming out... George Bush has finally admitted that he intends to privatize Social Security in a second term. "I´m going to come out strong after my swearing in," Bush said, "with…privatizing of Social Security." First, George Bush threatens Social Security with record deficits of over $400 billion. Now, Bush has a plan that cuts Social Security benefits by 30 to 45 percent. The real Bush Agenda? Cutting Social Security.

Expect to see heavy rotation in, say, Florida. And how many retirees are there in Ohio? Could this make a difference? In this election--as tight as it is--a sneeze could make a difference. Bush has been dodgy on Social Security for years--talking about a partial privatization without calling it such, declining to endorse a specific plan, or accounting for the $2 trillion short-term cost of such a move. At the last debate, he ducked a direct question regarding the $2 trillion shortfall. And he has tried to self-inoculate himself from the traditional Democratic attacks on Republicans regarding Social Security by essentially saying over and over, "Watch out for those traditional Democratic attacks on Republicans regarding Social Security." But unless the GOPers can succeed in undermining Suskind´s piece by pointing out (vigorously) it is based on unnamed sources, Bush has handed Kerry the political equivalent of an assault rifle and said, "Just shoot me."

We´ll see how this plays out. But it is interesting what you can tell about a campaign by what gets it excited. Since the last debate, the Bushies have been screaming about Kerry´s reference to Mary Cheney. The Kerry-okies are in a tizzy over flu shots and Social Security. What does that say to you? Or forget you--since chances are you´ve already made up your mind. What does that say to the 49 swing voters left in Ohio? I´m not registering a guess. I´m only asking.

Posted by David Corn at October 17, 2004 09:37 PM

[link to www.bushlies.ws]
Omphaloskepsis
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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Alternet is trying to come back up now.
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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[link to www.workingforchange.com]

link about them already back-peddeling on it.
OP
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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Thanks Caff....I couldn´t get back an the site I originally posted either.
Frank "Woo Woo" Grim
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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This it you self-deluded monkey boy, grab that third rail good and firmly. The true believers may give you a pass on the other 665 stupid evil things you´ve done, but AARP votes as a block and THEY WILL HAND YOU YOUR ASS.
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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PLEASE SEE SLACKER´S THREAD, PLEASE!!!rofl
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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1rof1
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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That´s just what we don´t need, more of Bush´s cronies in control of things that affect our daily lives. Can you say ENRON. Look what they did and are apparently getting away with.
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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yeah, that good ol´ boy Ken Lay is still scott free.
WeTFoot
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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i am triying to understand the full implications of privitaizing the social insurence number.

can someone help?
1
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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me too. i need to know what the privatizing would do. would it be the same as de-regulating utilities?
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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In a nutshell, privitizing social security would make it like a stock traded on wall street,subject to the ups and downs that stocks go through. So if the stock market went belly-up, so would your social security.
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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AND it wouldn´t be overseen by public watchgroups. So, whenever they decided to steal your money and run, what´s to stop them? Think ENRON. The motherfuckers send Martha Stewart to jail and she didn´t rob anyone but herself. Ken Lay is still walking around free spending pillaged pocket money like there´s no tomorrow. There will be a tomorrow for Ken Lay and others like him because all YOUR money is stashed in other countries and George W. Bush and the republinazis stand up for them.
Jade
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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I forgot to type something!
Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:18 AM
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BTTT BTW We old folks aren´t fooled by this wolf in sheeps clothing. We Gray Panthers aren´t going to put up with any more Bush shenanigans.
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