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Were/Are Talented and Gifted Programs some sort of mind control

 
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02/17/2009 08:38 PM
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I went to TAG school after extensive IQ testing when I was 4. I lived in a small rural community and went to a TAG program that took students from across the county. We did things like dissections, psychologically based journaling (how do you feel about/when xyz), speed reading, computer programming etc like in the 3rd grade. I cant remember much more. We went 3 days a week all day in a public school system.

Now this was a VERY POOR rural community that provided this for students....

Any thoughts GLP?
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02/17/2009 08:46 PM
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If they were mind control, they were in favor of freedom. Helping the gifted to use all their gifts is in direct opposition to our current educational strategies that work hard to dumb down the sheeple.
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Oh yes and anyone who is here that was in these programs....a series of questions...

Do you remember much of it?

What did they teach you?

Do you remember the testing?

Do you use your talents/gifts?
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02/17/2009 08:48 PM
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Re: Were/Are Talented and Gifted Programs some sort of mind control
I went to TAG school after extensive IQ testing when I was 4. I lived in a small rural community and went to a TAG program that took students from across the county. We did things like dissections, psychologically based journaling (how do you feel about/when xyz), speed reading, computer programming etc like in the 3rd grade. I cant remember much more. We went 3 days a week all day in a public school system.

Now this was a VERY POOR rural community that provided this for students....

Any thoughts GLP?
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They were and ARE recruitment programs...they are looking for the TRULY gifted... especially those with psychic ability.
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If they were mind control, they were in favor of freedom. Helping the gifted to use all their gifts is in direct opposition to our current educational strategies that work hard to dumb down the sheeple.
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Well I just wonder...like I am in the science field and I was pushed towards the biology microscope stuff...while others were pushed towards computers
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Re: Were/Are Talented and Gifted Programs some sort of mind control
I went to TAG school after extensive IQ testing when I was 4. I lived in a small rural community and went to a TAG program that took students from across the county. We did things like dissections, psychologically based journaling (how do you feel about/when xyz), speed reading, computer programming etc like in the 3rd grade. I cant remember much more. We went 3 days a week all day in a public school system.

Now this was a VERY POOR rural community that provided this for students....

Any thoughts GLP?

They were and ARE recruitment programs...they are looking for the TRULY gifted... especially those with psychic ability.
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Well that is interesting because I do.....but more like an empath not like see the future psychic. I know where peoples pain are and I can feel it....no BS flag :-)
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02/17/2009 08:58 PM
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Re: Were/Are Talented and Gifted Programs some sort of mind control
Oh yes and anyone who is here that was in these programs....a series of questions...

Do you remember much of it?---- yes

What did they teach you?------- "teach" isnt exactly the right word!

Do you remember the testing?--- yes

Do you use your talents/gifts?-- NO
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02/17/2009 09:12 PM
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Wow, I have been wondering the same thing for years and years. I grew up in a very poor rural area. I was in GATE from 5 years old all the way through high school. As far as I know there is no GATE programs in most high schools across the US. We moved around some as a child and always ended up back here. When we were in bigger places the GATE was usually just an hour or two, nothing like what was here. I took algebra in the 5th grade for example. When I moved to Texas in the fouth grade they placed me with the 7th graders for 4 hours per day. I can remember being SCARED to death!
We had all these tests every single year, I took the PSAT in the 5th grade, and then the SAT in the 6th and never had to take it again. The I remember doing a MMPI type test on occassion in grade school, and various kinds of odd tests. Tests sort of like ink blot tests etc. I took an IQ test when I was very young, and I believe they tested many of us, for a time there were only 4 of us in a class for a period of time during the day, then we went back in with the rest of the GATE students for the rest of the day. We were all together for all of our school years. There were 9 of us total for the grade level, in the GATE program from k-5 all the way to 12th.
Once I moved away to Atlanta, and when I moved back the program did not have what I needed in 11th grade they provided me with private tutors, for French and Art. I just thought it normal... UNTIL later on in life.
Speed Reading??!!! You betcha, still do 700 pages in 2 days is just like breathing for me. last year I read 892 books, mostly non-fiction and most of them were 350 pages +. The journaling indeed, I still have all of them, I actually have little books that wrote and drew pictures for, as early as 6 years old. For god's sake I can remember reading the dictionary and the set of world books at 5 years old! I knew all the states and capitols in the 2nd grade! UGH how aggravating I must have seemed to my cousins! HAHA ( Maybe even now to people because I still am always a wealth of knowlegde, I tried to dummy down in my 20's, didn't work so well, I learned to be me without making others feel inferior and making my self look like a braggart) PC programming was later for us, I am 36 years old we did that in the 8th grade, I don't think they had computers for us in the 3rd grade! HAHA Dissections the same here! How about special ways to do math, I am like a human calculator, I cannot even use the fancy ones for statistics in college it was like I had a brain block when it came time to use it! I could do the problems in my head, but not with the stupid calculator! Tell me more anything sound like you???

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Re: Were/Are Talented and Gifted Programs some sort of mind control
Yeah I was in that shit. I was the only one that went from the gifted class to the guidance council and back again. I remember my first exposure to Magick was in a 'gifted field trip' and I took a class on visualization where they taught meditation and visualization ( this in 4th grade ). And yes its mostly about computers, this is the substrate for the converged megascience that is looming.
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02/17/2009 09:22 PM
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Re: Were/Are Talented and Gifted Programs some sort of mind control
I was in various programs throughout my 12 years. Some are innocent, the ones run by smaller schools or the district, but the programs administered by colleges are very much so recruitment tools.

The Johns Hopkins Young Scholars was extremely uncomfortable.
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Yes, i was in CHIPS at May Whitney Elementary School in Lake Zurich IL from 3rd to 5th grade, then placed in higher math and had to go to the high school for math class, though i was in 6th grade.

i had to leave my regular classes from 3rd-5th grade, i think 3 times a week, and we would go upstairs to this room with newer computers and play sim city 2000, and the lady would take notes, and we would have to put our heads in these instruments and watch red and green lights flash while sounds played in our ears...i still dont know the point of that.
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Here is a short document/primer about our virtual experience, Alphas:
[link to www.mensa-project.org]
Be very careful if you receive the Omega code, pictured as the greek omega letter, number 13 or number 322 - all of them initiate System's shutdown ("suicide").

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