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memory

Krishnamurti - Freedom From The Known Freedom from the Known is a book by Mary Lutyens and Jiddu Krishnamurti. ... Thought turns it into a memory and memory is then nourished by thinking about ...
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Jiddhu Krishnamurti - Memory has no life in itself -

Krishnamurti and David Bohm on thought, conflict, and dialogue ... thought they worked with is the response of memory), how thought is limited, ... In A Brief Introduction to the Work of Krishnamurti, David Bohm writes, ...
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enquiry into the nature of thought
and the source of conflict in the world



In early 1993, the ratitor came upon some audio tapes of Krishnamurti, and soon afterwards of David Bohm. What these people were talking about made an impact within as nothing else previously. What they explored throughout their lives was the very ground of being. Their enquiries have made a deep impression on this one.



One primary area K and DB enquired into is the nature of thought, (the essential definition of thought they worked with is the response of memory), how thought is limited, and the ways in which this creates fragmentation and division in ourselves and thus in the world we make. This fragmentation fundamentally influences the way we see the world, and is the source of the conflict we see everywhere "out there". The source of the conflict "out there" originates within each one of us because of the way we think, present tense, and how, when we stop thinking about something, it doesn't "disappear", but instead goes onto the memory and becomes thought (past tense).

In A Brief Introduction to the Work of Krishnamurti, David Bohm writes,

. . . we went on to consider the general disorder and confusion that pervades the consciousness of mankind. It is here that I encountered what I feel to be Krishnamurti's major discovery. What he was seriously proposing is that all this disorder, which is the root cause of such widespread sorrow and misery, and which prevents human beings from properly working together, has its root in the fact that we are ignorant of the general nature of our own processes of thought. Or to put it differently it may be said that we do not see what is actually happening, when we are engaged in the activity of thinking. Through close attention to and observation of this activity of thought, Krishnamurti feels that he directly perceives that thought is a material process, which is going on inside of the human being in the brain and nervous system as a whole.

Bohm was Emeritus Professor of Theoretical Physics at Birkbeck College, at the University of London. As a younger man he had worked with Einstein in the 1950s and went on to become a quantum theory physicist, the next stage of physics beyond Einstein's relativity. Difficulties during the McCarthy era, caused by his "radical" political views, led him to leave his native U.S. in 1951.

Bohm first became aware of Krishnamurti in 1959 through a book of his entitled The First and Last Freedom and its exploration into the question of the observer and the observed. Both he and K had been been questioning limitations imposed on discovery and awareness by the restrictions of language and images.1 The nature of the observer and the observed centers on the difficulties created by the self which, the observation of, and any action proceeding from, "is usually rooted in the apparent creation of a second self, who is watching and acting upon the first self. This is the problem of the observer and the observed, a cognitive structure which is appropriate and effective in some domains, but riddled with contradictions when applied psychologically."2 This subject was of great interest to both Bohm and Krishnamurti. They met soon after this and began a friendship formed from a mutual interest in the way thought works.

I am nothing of the sort.
I am the heart of the meek and those of child like faith in our CREATOR.
you are full of the spirit of judgement.

I am a spark of the divine.
I am nothing of my own making.

There is no wrath for those with pure intentions
and the BOLDNESS
to face their accusers.

You seek to demonize me.
There is nothing HOLY in your message.

Your authority is counterfeit.


As I type, I walk...

I don't know about this one... I can understand their trying to figure it out, but to insert another being that we are talking to during thought sounds like they are trying to prove schizophrenia. The thoughts come from mind through brain to heart or soul... the brain is only a transmitter/translater between the soul and spirit. We are not our bodies, our brains which are part of our bodies... This is where the ego comes in as it is part of the brain that will die... so it whispers and it takes a very aware person/soul to realize not all our thoughts come from spirit... Kristnamurti was such a person but he is trying to relate it to those who aren't so they will see it as schitzy...

Damn, HIGHLY educational thread, Tommy, good on ya

back it up with scripture or take a hike

the christers will do their best to scatter everyone from this thread.......Im wise to their games though ;)

thanks =]

g`nite

ANGEL WITH A SMALL BOOK AND A LONG CHAIN.

CORRECTION DRAGING A LONG CHAIN

My bad dudes. For clarification, the number is 616, not 666. All will be revealed on the day. If ye sinneth not, fear ye not. If ye hath sinned, repent. If ye hath sinned and repenteth not, welcome, no need for matches !

You people amuse me...
Thankyou for making my night.