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Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?

 
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Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
or was it just materialistic people from urban areas who did not know how to cope with the loss of luxeries?
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
farmers didn't suffer because they could grow and raise their own food.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
Most lived off the land and had no luxuries so they had little to miss being spoiled with.This time seven shades of ugly
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
farmers didn't suffer because they could grow and raise their own food.
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They didn't suffer from food shortages but the govt. mandadted how much they could grow and sell as a way of price fixing. Many fields were ordered plowed under by the govt.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
farmers didn't suffer because they could grow and raise their own food.


They didn't suffer from food shortages but the govt. mandadted how much they could grow and sell as a way of price fixing. Many fields were ordered plowed under by the govt.
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So, in a way, they did suffer because they weren't allowed to prosper.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
Depends. Were they affected by the Dust Bowl? People tend to forget that there was a severe drought going on at the same time as the Great Depression, and that exacerbated the problems --- sorta like the historic drought we are experiencing in the US now.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
Yes, they suffered.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
farmers didn't suffer because they could grow and raise their own food.


They didn't suffer from food shortages but the govt. mandadted how much they could grow and sell as a way of price fixing. Many fields were ordered plowed under by the govt.
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My grandmother told me livestock was killed and disposed of rather than given to the people.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
Yes they did because many lost their farms to the banks. Also crops were poor because of years of drought.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
Yes, they suffered.
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Do you care to expand on that statement?
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
farmers didn't suffer because they could grow and raise their own food.


They didn't suffer from food shortages but the govt. mandadted how much they could grow and sell as a way of price fixing. Many fields were ordered plowed under by the govt.


My grandmother told me livestock was killed and disposed of rather than given to the people.
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That is horrific.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
The farmers were hit pretty hard. The banks forclosed on the farms. This resulted in what was called "PENNY AUCTIONS". The farmers would ban together and go bid for the farms at pennies of their value. If the wrong guy bid they would get the SHIP kicked out of them by the other farmers. THIS IS WHY all forclosures auctions are now done at the COURTHOUSE STEPS, close to the POLICE.

Here is a question... in this kind and caring socialistic society, are they " THE DEMOCRATCS" going to really force us from our homes and use the POLICE TO DO IT.... Are they going to be KIND with our MONEY or are the BANKS going to take our homes.

What happens if we keep protesting paying for the people that made bad decisons. Would no one lose their home?

The only thing that is keeping us from Uniting like the Farmers in the Great Depression is US TAKING OUR HANDS and grabbing the BANKERS by the BALLS...
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
My grandmother told me livestock was killed and disposed of rather than given to the people.
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Another form of price fixing.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
Haven't you people ever heard of the dust bowl? It was a severe drought that hit America at about the same time of the depression. Hence, the Dirty Thirties. This event prolonged and exacerbated the Great Depression, so you're damn right the farmers suffered. They suffered just as much a everyone else.

For historical information, it is always best to seek some kind of official explanation. History books are easy to find, and many places online discuss history. Asking a question like this on a public forum will only illicit uninformed answers from uninformed people, as evidenced by the majority of the replies to this thread.

The Dust Bowl(The Dirty Thirties)
1930-1936
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Two-thirds of farmers in "Palliser's Triangle", in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan, had to rely on government aid."

The Great Depression
1929-1939
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Hardest hit were farm commodities such as wheat, cotton, tobacco, and lumber. According to this theory, the collapse of farm exports caused many American farmers to default on their loans, leading to the bank runs on small rural banks that characterized the early years of the Great Depression."

So you see, the farmers did indeed suffer, and it appears that they were not only the most dramatically hit, but may also have been resposible for the majority of the damage done to the speculative markets.

Research is easy to do, Try it some time.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
The farmers were hit pretty hard. The banks forclosed on the farms. This resulted in what was called "PENNY AUCTIONS". The farmers would ban together and go bid for the farms at pennies of their value. If the wrong guy bid they would get the SHIP kicked out of them by the other farmers. THIS IS WHY all forclosures auctions are now done at the COURTHOUSE STEPS, close to the POLICE.

Here is a question... in this kind and caring socialistic society, are they " THE DEMOCRATCS" going to really force us from our homes and use the POLICE TO DO IT.... Are they going to be KIND with our MONEY or are the BANKS going to take our homes.

What happens if we keep protesting paying for the people that made bad decisons. Would no one lose their home?

The only thing that is keeping us from Uniting like the Farmers in the Great Depression is US TAKING OUR HANDS and grabbing the BANKERS by the BALLS...
 Quoting: JuST A COWARD 619381


They want you to stay in your homes so you can pay off the bad investment instead of the bank having to eat it. Of course, you'll never see any equity back for 20 years. So, they forcing you to pay very high rent and the property taxes associated with it. So, the gov. is still screwing you.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
Haven't you people ever heard of the dust bowl? It was a severe drought that hit America at about the same time of the depression. Hence, the Dirty Thirties. This event prolonged and exacerbated the Great Depression, so you're damn right the farmers suffered. They suffered just as much a everyone else.

For historical information, it is always best to seek some kind of official explanation. History books are easy to find, and many places online discuss history. Asking a question like this on a public forum will only illicit uninformed answers from uninformed people, as evidenced by the majority of the replies to this thread.

The Dust Bowl(The Dirty Thirties)
1930-1936
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Two-thirds of farmers in "Palliser's Triangle", in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan, had to rely on government aid."

The Great Depression
1929-1939
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Hardest hit were farm commodities such as wheat, cotton, tobacco, and lumber. According to this theory, the collapse of farm exports caused many American farmers to default on their loans, leading to the bank runs on small rural banks that characterized the early years of the Great Depression."

So you see, the farmers did indeed suffer, and it appears that they were not only the most dramatically hit, but may also have been resposible for the majority of the damage done to the speculative markets.

Research is easy to do, Try it some time.
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Jackass.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
or was it just materialistic people from urban areas who did not know how to cope with the loss of luxeries?
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I contend that rual people suffered more than city dwellers...the GDI combined with the dust bowl caused half of the state of Oklahoma to move West
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
My grandmother told me livestock was killed and disposed of rather than given to the people.


Another form of price fixing.
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Yes many did without,according to her, that didnt have to in order to control prices.Yes people suffered greatly and worked very hard.There were no modern ways to work the land,etc.Most times they had only one food item such as a pot of beans with nothing else sometimes the same thing for days in a row.This lasted for near 10 years.
Now people are spoiled with the good life and modern things such as a bath room and running water and stocked grocery store.Those days will have to end before we can start anew and lots will in no way be able to survive.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
All depends..Look Up DUSTBOWL.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
or was it just materialistic people from urban areas who did not know how to cope with the loss of luxeries?

I contend that rual people suffered more than city dwellers...the GDI combined with the dust bowl caused half of the state of Oklahoma to move West
 Quoting: mathetes


All of my grandparents lived through the depression in rural Lousiana. They were very poor, but they didn't go hungry. From what they have told me, their city relatives didn't fare as well. Also, the disparity between the monied class and the poverty class in an urban area, can make you feel stigmatized. Whereas, if you live in a poor community, where everyone has the same, and no kids have shoes to wear in the summer, you feel normal. Remember, they didn't have the television to compare their lifestyles with others, that leads to a feeling of jealousy.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
My grandmother told me livestock was killed and disposed of rather than given to the people.


Another form of price fixing.


Yes many did without,according to her, that didnt have to in order to control prices.Yes people suffered greatly and worked very hard.There were no modern ways to work the land,etc.Most times they had only one food item such as a pot of beans with nothing else sometimes the same thing for days in a row.This lasted for near 10 years.
Now people are spoiled with the good life and modern things such as a bath room and running water and stocked grocery store.Those days will have to end before we can start anew and lots will in no way be able to survive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619230



Yep...I'm a farmer, and have honed my skills in as many trades as I can, and can fix just about anything you can hand me....because I know that we are all in for some very rough times ahead, and I hope I can teach as many people as I can how to survive on their own after the SHTF. I am well prepared mentally and physically for what lies ahead....even if it's death. But, I have a feeling that I'll be around awhile to help people back on their feet again.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
Depends. Were they affected by the Dust Bowl? People tend to forget that there was a severe drought going on at the same time as the Great Depression, and that exacerbated the problems --- sorta like the historic drought we are experiencing in the US now.
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fraid that might happen in PNW. great dustbowl of 2009...
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
Haven't you people ever heard of the dust bowl? It was a severe drought that hit America at about the same time of the depression. Hence, the Dirty Thirties. This event prolonged and exacerbated the Great Depression, so you're damn right the farmers suffered. They suffered just as much a everyone else.

For historical information, it is always best to seek some kind of official explanation. History books are easy to find, and many places online discuss history. Asking a question like this on a public forum will only illicit uninformed answers from uninformed people, as evidenced by the majority of the replies to this thread.

The Dust Bowl(The Dirty Thirties)
1930-1936
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Two-thirds of farmers in "Palliser's Triangle", in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan, had to rely on government aid."

The Great Depression
1929-1939
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Hardest hit were farm commodities such as wheat, cotton, tobacco, and lumber. According to this theory, the collapse of farm exports caused many American farmers to default on their loans, leading to the bank runs on small rural banks that characterized the early years of the Great Depression."

So you see, the farmers did indeed suffer, and it appears that they were not only the most dramatically hit, but may also have been resposible for the majority of the damage done to the speculative markets.

Research is easy to do, Try it some time.


Jackass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 569913

Jeebus! I'm sorry... I forgot that telling the truth was unwelcome here. Not to mention a few real facts.

Maybe you don't realize this, but I started writing my post after about four replies to this thread. It wasn't my expectation that it would be so popular.

The first few replies were indeed uninformed.

Call me a Jackass all you want, it doesn't negate the facts I typed out in plain english.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
my grandparents were farmers

they were very conservative financially

didn't get into debt

so they came through the depression pretty well

so they taught my dad ... debt is slavery

my dad taught me debt is slavery

I taught my kids that debt is slavery

so guess who will make it through this depression ok ????
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
Yes, they suffered.
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I have a family member that has a large herd of cattle.He made the statement to me that he and all his neighbors would always have something to eat because if times got bad and prices low he would give the people beef rather than sell at a loss.I ask him didnt he have to account for every hoof on the farm yearly and he said yes because thats how he earns part of his living.
I then ask him did he think if tshtf as in a survival situation did he not understand that the government could take over that herd and he can do nothing about it.Every head could be slaughtered and burned if they desired to control and 'stabilize' the market.Clueless.Many that think they can freely grow or give away food,etc will be very surprised.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
farmers didn't suffer because they could grow and raise their own food.


They didn't suffer from food shortages but the govt. mandadted how much they could grow and sell as a way of price fixing. Many fields were ordered plowed under by the govt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 569913

Oh, I see it now. You were one of the blind trying to lead the blind. My mistake. I didn't mean to get under your uninformed skin.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
If the government came to plow my fields under or destroy my cattle....you can bet I would die fighting....wouldn't have a second thought about it either! I would take as many as the assholes out that I could before I bit the dust.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
people that lost their farms to the banks usally could stay on the farm and rent the land from the banks. after the 30's when things got better the banks were happy to sell the farms back to the farmers at a cheap price. My grandmother was one of them that lost her farm in the 30's bought the whole farm back for $4500(I think it was about 1000 acres) in 1940 and had it totally paid for in 3 years.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
If the government came to plow my fields under or destroy my cattle....you can bet I would die fighting....wouldn't have a second thought about it either! I would take as many as the assholes out that I could before I bit the dust.
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And you would die and the results would be the same.They accepted and made do until times grew better.This wont be fixed in a year or two either regardless of how much people want to believe it will.I understand your way of thinking but good intentions have no effect if you become a dead hero.Life goes on.
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
farmers didn't suffer because they could grow and raise their own food.
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Jesus H. Christ in a polo shirt, are you all fucking stupid?
Watch, "The Grapes of Wrath".
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Re: Did the Farmers suffer during the great depression?
or was it just materialistic people from urban areas who did not know how to cope with the loss of luxeries?

I contend that rual people suffered more than city dwellers...the GDI combined with the dust bowl caused half of the state of Oklahoma to move West
 Quoting: mathetes



Yep

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