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ZetaTalk LIVE Chat February 21

 
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Is killing puppies and kittens STO or STS?
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You can defend her all you want, what she said was offensive and she needs to apologise for it.
 Quoting: OxygenX

Isn't it funny how if a "debunker" tells a "white lie" that people like User try to preach about lying and yet overlook the biggest "white lie" of all - the one that Nancy Lieder told in 2003? And isn't it funny how if a "debunker" does anything offensive, people like User get upset and yet overlook it when Nancy Lieder does it?
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No need to. I'm a counselor by trade, and have a pretty good track record too. There is no such thing as death. Life can only change form. I'm not judging, only stating facts as I understand them..
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Well the First thing AS a counselor.. is to Get the spelling right its Counsellor well then As a counsellor you will understand that the "client" is always right a "counsellor" has NO opinion to give. So this goes against the "principles" of a counsellor talking about religion.

"Life is about choices and the ones you make determine orientation, and your relationship with God as the Christ that you are, or the body you made up, and identify with. Its that simple"....
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.... And thats coming from an old Cynic

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You can defend her all you want, what she said was offensive and she needs to apologise for it.

Isn't it funny how if a "debunker" tells a "white lie" that people like User try to preach about lying and yet overlook the biggest "white lie" of all - the one that Nancy Lieder told in 2003? And isn't it funny how if a "debunker" does anything offensive, people like User get upset and yet overlook it when Nancy Lieder does it?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Exactly, I call her a word I wont repeat and I get jumped on by everyone, yet she labled all disabled people as afflictions and yet they defend her. Go figure.
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Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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Seriously Nacy withdraw it and appologise. You will gain a bit of respect if you do!


Nothing wrong with speaking the facts! No need for an apology.

So you see nothing wrong with Nancy suggesting that families are Afflicted with a spastic like its some kind of disease then?


Not at all. Its the truth, and your a good case in point..

Well you ass, I hope nobody you love ever has an unfortunate accident, I hope your parent never suffers dementia. Could you really consider them an affliction? You obviously have no idea how offensive you are being to the millions of families that have dear loved ones with disabilities.

Im being jumped on by all the mods now, I guess thats for using a banned word, I apologise for that. I cant reply to any PM's cause im not a payed member. Guess people are more insulted by one word that the insulting comment about how every single disabled person on this planet is an affliction.


Um you have a star

Someone upgraded you

Just noticed it :)
 Quoting: OxygenX




The debunkers will do anything for each other in their desperation to be heard. Proof is in the puddin.
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Why would Gitmo need to be closed and why would the terrorists, such as the Cole bomber need to be released? what justification can you possibly give for that? and please use your own judgement instead that of Keith Olbermann from msnbc.


You have lost your damn mind. It was a Republican judge who
dropped the charges because of the policies of the last 8 years
that have made us one of the most hated nations on Earth.
We actually created more terrorists than we killed by our
actions. And what about all the innocent people who were
sent to Gitmo? How do you explain all the members of the
military who are finally speaking out about how we treated
people there, no matter if they were guilty or not?
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
BTW, that judge who dropped the charges did so because the
man was waterboarded - the very thing we charged the Japanese
with war crimes for
!!!

BTW, I can't find any news about Al-Nashiri being released.



The "republipukes" are the only ones left representing the ideals of the founding fathers and everything America stands for... liberty of the individual as opposed to the collective, the right to pursue success, lower government taxes and stronger national defense. If that is not what you believe in, than what right do you have to criticize others actually support what this country stands for.


Ben Franklin said that those who would exchange liberty
for security deserve neither. You would do well to actually
read what those Founding Fathers wrote.


:fasc:


BTW, how in the hell do you justify the following:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: DrPostman


First time I've read anything by you that makes any sense..
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Seriously Nacy withdraw it and appologise. You will gain a bit of respect if you do!


Nothing wrong with speaking the facts! No need for an apology.

So you see nothing wrong with Nancy suggesting that families are Afflicted with a spastic like its some kind of disease then?


Not at all. Its the truth, and your a good case in point..

Well you ass, I hope nobody you love ever has an unfortunate accident, I hope your parent never suffers dementia. Could you really consider them an affliction? You obviously have no idea how offensive you are being to the millions of families that have dear loved ones with disabilities.

Im being jumped on by all the mods now, I guess thats for using a banned word, I apologise for that. I cant reply to any PM's cause im not a payed member. Guess people are more insulted by one word that the insulting comment about how every single disabled person on this planet is an affliction.


Um you have a star

Someone upgraded you

Just noticed it :)




The debunkers will do anything for each other in their desperation to be heard. Proof is in the puddin.
 Quoting: User # 78/68

Well thats a pointless statement because I have no idea who upgraded me, for all I know it could have been one of the mods.
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Nancy, a few weeks ago Zetamax posted an article about a 5000 year old calendar. You replied that this is the work of the natives not the Annunaki, so my question to you is this:

If there was a pole shift 3600 years ago, how could this calendar work today? Are you admitting that the pole shift did not occur? Similarly, if the earth is stopped in orbit and the moon and sun are not where they should be, how is it that ancient monuments like the one in Chichen Itza continue to mark phenomenon like the equinoxes with precision, as they have for thousands of years?



Excellent question!

(you might not get an answer!)


hf

Yep, You got that right. That is actually the first prediction on this thread to come true. I have been asking it for a couple of years now, and I get is links to Zetatalk, which I have read and which do not make sense. Or I get banned, but usually just ignored. I don't know why this is such a tough question.
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It's a tough question because Nancy Lieder doesn't have an answer for you. No surprise there. It has been years since I have sat in on a ZetaTalk, and when the Lone Ranger posted that "Epic Fail" cartoon I totally cracked up laughing. NL is a scam, yet the idea of an actual pole shift or magnetic reversal is not something I rule out. "Wormood" is in the Bible, and there are other references in folklore to something akin to a "PX," but ZetaTalk is another matter entirely. Being prepared is sound advice these days, hyping up what is "lurking in the inner solar system" is absurd.
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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[link to www.youtube.com]

Peace!
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Why would Gitmo need to be closed and why would the terrorists, such as the Cole bomber need to be released? what justification can you possibly give for that? and please use your own judgement instead that of Keith Olbermann from msnbc.


You have lost your damn mind. It was a Republican judge who
released him because of the policies of the last 8 years
that have made us one of the most hated nations on Earth.
We actually created more terrorists than we killed by our
actions. And what about all the innocent people who were
sent to Gitmo? How do you explain all the members of the
military who are finally speaking out about how we treated
people there, no matter if they were guilty or not?
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
BTW, that judge who dropped the charges did so because the
man was waterboarded - the very thing we charged the Japanese
with war crimes for
!!!



The "republipukes" are the only ones left representing the ideals of the founding fathers and everything America stands for... liberty of the individual as opposed to the collective, the right to pursue success, lower government taxes and stronger national defense. If that is not what you believe in, than what right do you have to criticize others actually support what this country stands for.


Ben Franklin said that those who would exchange liberty
for security deserve neither. You would do well to actually
read what those Founding Fathers wrote.


:fasc:


BTW, how in the hell do you justify the following:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: DrPostman



How do you justify waterboarding as torture? Thats the kind of stuff kids do to each other in the school yard for fun. Have you gone completely soft?

And nobody is talking about exchanging liberty for security. I don't suppose you mean having a national army is a threat to our liberty. On the contrary, it is to protect our liberty from people like the Cole bomber who was just released from Gitmo. Not everything in the past 8 years was perfect, and no administration is. The black sites existed long before Bush took office, and during the cold war and vietnam war, the US has done far worse things to people. Let's take a step back and look at the larger picture.

The US has created more terrorists? no it hasn't. There is no quantifiable way to measure that except for terrorist attacks, which are significantly down since 9/11.

There are many little things people can disagree on, but when the debate comes down to freedom or socialism like it is now with Obama, such little differences can be put aside to save liberty. The country is at stake!
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No need to. I'm a counselor by trade, and have a pretty good track record too. There is no such thing as death. Life can only change form. I'm not judging, only stating facts as I understand them..


Well the First thing AS a counselor.. is to Get the spelling right its Counsellor well then As a counsellor you will understand that the "client" is always right a "counsellor" has NO opinion to give. So this goes against the "principles" of a counsellor talking about religion.



"Life is about choices and the ones you make determine orientation, and your relationship with God as the Christ that you are, or the body you made up, and identify with. Its that simple"....
 Quoting: Cynical Realist


Hey, I retired twelve years ago, and counselor is only one of many trades I've had. Mostly working with the military though. Besides that I spelled it right and you are wrong, but who is judging here. LOL
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You can defend her all you want, what she said was offensive and she needs to apologise for it.

Isn't it funny how if a "debunker" tells a "white lie" that people like User try to preach about lying and yet overlook the biggest "white lie" of all - the one that Nancy Lieder told in 2003? And isn't it funny how if a "debunker" does anything offensive, people like User get upset and yet overlook it when Nancy Lieder does it?

Exactly, I call her a word I wont repeat and I get jumped on by everyone, yet she labled all disabled people as afflictions and yet they defend her. Go figure.
 Quoting: OxygenX


The way to "re-frame" it is... You had the virtue and Balls to appologise openly for your mistake..... kudos to you. Wheter we agree or not with Nancy... We will see if she does the same. Sadly I suspect not.
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic

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I think this is quite apt about Nancy and her "friends"

basically making excuses for being wrong :)
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Im being jumped on by all the mods now, I guess thats for using a banned word, I apologise for that. I cant reply to any PM's cause im not a payed member. Guess people are more insulted by one word that the insulting comment about how every single disabled person on this planet is an affliction.


That says more about you, than most of the posters here. Let`s see if nancy is half the woman she is??

I sent her a PM apologising as well.
 Quoting: OxygenX



OK. that's good!
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Im being jumped on by all the mods now, I guess thats for using a banned word, I apologise for that. I cant reply to any PM's cause im not a payed member. Guess people are more insulted by one word that the insulting comment about how every single disabled person on this planet is an affliction.


That says more about you, than most of the posters here. Let`s see if nancy is half the woman she is??

I sent her a PM apologising as well.



OK. that's good!
 Quoting: User # 78/68

I dont care if you think thats good or not, I felt it was the right thing to do and i had already apologised before the mods jumped all over me.
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Besides that I spelled it right and you are wrong, but who is judging here. LOL
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Seems we are both right... Thanks to UK and US interpretaions.
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic

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If the Zetas wanted to warn everyone of Planet X so that we could help others prepare than why won't they allow themselves to be filmed, or photographed?

And what's with this "element of doubt" nonsense Nancy keeps talking about? is that just another divide and conquer strategy to keep her sheep in line?
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To all the Nancy followers, let me pose a simple question...


How do you imagine the zetas have structured their society and government?

Of course, we can only speculate here because they never told us.
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Im being jumped on by all the mods now, I guess thats for using a banned word, I apologise for that. I cant reply to any PM's cause im not a payed member. Guess people are more insulted by one word that the insulting comment about how every single disabled person on this planet is an affliction.


That says more about you, than most of the posters here. Let`s see if nancy is half the woman she is??

I sent her a PM apologising as well.



OK. that's good!
 Quoting: User # 78/68


Lets hope she reciprocates!!
.... And thats coming from an old Cynic

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To all the Nancy followers, let me pose a simple question...


How do you imagine the zetas have structured their society and government?

Of course, we can only speculate here because they never told us.
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They have one hell of a dog pound, we know that much.
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If the Zetas wanted to warn everyone of Planet X so that we could help others prepare than why won't they allow themselves to be filmed, or photographed?

And what's with this "element of doubt" nonsense Nancy keeps talking about? is that just another divide and conquer strategy to keep her sheep in line?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 609924



Must be a simple job, she has so few sheep, three is all she can count on, and they debunk her constantly and don't even know it!
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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Nancy, your vehement loathing and hostility towards the Republican party bears no ground in economic history or political fact. It is clear you are a die-hard socialist who believes in re-distribution of wealth. Do not cover this up by claiming to be an emissary of an alien group.

You showcase here countless implied instances of absolute distaste for democracy, free market systems, freedom and liberty of the individual to succeed in their life and be rewarded for it. You, in contrast to these basic beliefs in freedom display an ideology of hatred for the individual. You seek to punish the achievers and self-starters by robbing them of their rewards. Instead of lifting up the under-achievers you wish to tear down the successful among us.

In addition, you condemn and denounce conservatives on your website by claiming their only constituency are the super-wealthy elites who wish to do nothing but take advantage of the majority. This could not be further from the truth, and I'll go further to say that liberals, whom you admittedly admire and hold in high regard on your website, have produced more tyrannical oppressors of populations in history than any other group. We can start with Lenin, Stalin, Mao and many, many others. I don't need to go into what the conservative movement stands for, but your censure of it smacks directly in the face of everything that America stands for.

It's a shame that you feel this way.

republican party is full of devils! Thats why STOs attack them for their draconian ways!



What you say does not justify a thoughtful response. Please educate yourself first. Are people like you followers of Nancy? This is hilarious.

You guys are the circus! clowns and idiots!
I'd like to see you losers when the time comes! you're a joke! Get a life!



This is your comment? you slander me 3 times in 2 sentences than tell me to get a life? the country is sick and tired of this liberal bias. Why can't liberals argue on any substantive facts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 609924




Your conservatives nothing but FUCKED up your country. Do your own homework, home boy.

Their fiscal policies were a shame to every American. Grow up and see the facts for what they are. How dense do you have to be to still support George Bush mistakes and policies. Jesus Christ!
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To all the Nancy followers, let me pose a simple question...


How do you imagine the zetas have structured their society and government?

Of course, we can only speculate here because they never told us.

They have one hell of a dog pound, we know that much.
 Quoting: Joe Six Pack



I bet they do, lol

But I want to hear any Nancy supporter explain how the zetas society is structured so that perhaps we can learn from the godly ones; from the higher beings who sit atop their high perch using conduits to spread their occultic dogma; from the al-mighty enlightened ones who are all wise. Surely they must have the perfect society.
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Disabilites start and end in the mind. It is a choice you know..


You sick bastard. You've never had to deal with a child who
is disabled. What's wrong with you? How do you claim that
a child who is born with a birth defect had any choice?


No, I made the choice to not have any children. I'm not stupid. The incarnated soul made that choice before coming in to the body for those life lessons for oneself and for the parents as well. Life is about choices and the ones you make determine orientation, and your relationship with God as the Christ that you are, or the body you made up, and identify with. Its that simple..
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Yep!
Well said!

That's how I see it, too.

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SOJSPT
Of course the Zetas have the perfect society.
They have no pets, because they killed them all.
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The debunkers will do anything for each other in their desperation to be heard. Proof is in the puddin.
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The woo-woos will do anything for each other in their desperation to avoid providing evidence to support Nancy's claims or admit she's wrong. The proof is in the pudding.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Nancy, *YOU* can take long exposure photographs of the night sky *YOURSELF.* You can POST them at your own website. You can make sure that NO hiding of the wobble takes place.

Why won't ANY of your supporters or yourself post a time lapse image and
prove your claimed wobble? Surely a SINGLE one of your supporters could send you such a photo?


YOU don't get to dictate what others do with their time.

True but unless your prepared to back up the shit you spew you'll be slated as a mentally sick old lady forever.




What does this make YOU, the addicted reader of said mentally sick old lady?

The mentality of a deflunker NICELY displayed!


With respect here 78/68... Would`nt you agree with Both parties appologising??




Listen, it's the constant stalking ... the belittling of Nancy's words in these chats ... I see it as disrespectful, and in as big a way as you see it isn't.

I mean no personal disrespect to you Cynical Realist.


Nor to you... But she sets herself up.....every time, you know it ...we all know it. Normaly i stay off this thread in "live mode"... But you know the rules and the nature of the beast Its an open thread, and therfore open game. I know we all have belifes whether they are right or wrong this is an open forum. But if I see anything that needs to be "challanged" I will. Im not sure what the "relationship"(respectfully) is with you and nancy but do you think she needs to understand that she needs to be more cautious in what she says... Particularly if it involve issues that are obviously personal to certain people, After all it will save this fiasco from happening again!
 Quoting: Cynical Realist




Sometimes it's just interpretation of the words. Maybe, move away from such strict interpretations and understand the overall meaning. The meat of the point lies in there somewhere.
Language is a tricky thing sometimes.

My two cents?
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Which book claims that India borders Russia?


In all the books until the 18 th century.
India earlier part of the Great Tharthar. Tharthar - Russia.


Makes sense, since the tip of India almost touches the tip of the former USSR. So much for the mislead artists, yet again!


what are you two on about????????? what part of China dont you get? China's empire has been there for a few thousand years and no doubt because they keep their sites secret I would say their history goes way back.
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WTF are you talking about?

We're not talking about China here. Weird!

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