Firestorm Brewing Between US States and Federal Government :: Civil War?? Sure Looks like it! | |
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picesnator User ID: 318318 United States 02/21/2009 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The final straw will be over taxes imposed by the obobma and the dems....in mid may-june and there is gonna be a huge screaming mass of people....alot of laidoff/fired because the companies can't afford the taxes/ssi/medicare payments being levied by congress....INCREASES on the way... retro to jan 1, 2009....we all are gonna lose a paycheck....at least..probably our jobs...!!! |
Nightshade 09 (OP) User ID: 620117 United Kingdom 02/21/2009 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I suspect it will be much different. The end of this conflict. An let us not mistake it for something else. This is will be a Federal Government That are nothing more Globalists and Shrill New World Order Sell Outs vs the last Remains of the Free Independent Republics of America. In essense it will be the New World Order types trying to stamp out the last vestiage of Nationalism and True Patriotism in the world. It will be bloody... But I predict when its all over and smoke clears It will be a case of the United Republics of America. Leading the world wide forces against a New World Order Europe. Shady "In a time of deceit telling the truth is revolutionary act." - George Orwell |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 620119 United States 02/21/2009 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Average business cycles used to run 4-1/2 years. With the ever-increasing role of government and their need for public funding, government cannot afford the downdrafts which results in less revenue to foot the bill. As a result, government continues to raise taxes even as the ability to pay worsens. This makes the situation even worse and encourages the government to artificially stimulate the economy to increase revenues. Things are reaching a critical mass where the peoples' ability to support themselves means they cannot afford the government's expenses. The solution is less government spending and less taxation so that the people have more money to generate the economy. What we are seeing is the exact opposite as local, state and Federal spending continues to increase, with the feeble attempt to make the people pay even more. It's not working. |
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Nightshade 09 (OP) User ID: 620117 United Kingdom 02/21/2009 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glenn Beck scares Fox host into hiding under table David Edwards and Muriel Kane Published: Friday February 20, 2009 [link to rawstory.com] Fox News hosts are known for viewing the world around them with alarm -- but Glenn Beck goes far beyond most of his peers at Fox in his belief that the future looks "really bad." In a visit Friday with the hosts of Fox & Friends, Beck even managed to terrify Gretchen Carlson beyond the degree to which she is normally capable of terrifying herself. "What we are possibly looking at is something far worse than the Depression," Beck began. "We are in much greater debt as individuals. We don't know how to grow our own food." "We're also looking at civil unrest all around the world," he continued. "You need to prepare. This is something that could be ... really dangerous. ... My hands, now, for the first time in my life, are shaking. ... We're running out of exit ramps here." Beck's greatest fear -- which he suggests is shared by his friends in the military and the FBI -- is clearly not the prospect of widespread poverty, hunger, or homelessness. Rather, it appears to be thenotion that worldwide civil unrest could precipitate a civil war between what he calls the "bubbas" and the United States government. [link to rawstory.com] Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 08/28/2012 08:28 AM "In a time of deceit telling the truth is revolutionary act." - George Orwell |
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Ai User ID: 620232 Guatemala 02/21/2009 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OMG: It looks like a Second American Civil War is starting to become a reality. God help us all............ Quoting: starbattle 498149John Titor Was Right, Again... [link to www.timetravelinstitute.com] |
odd*is*he User ID: 608059 United States 02/21/2009 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suddenly our state governments are so concerned about the welfare of their people, they decided to all start declaring sovereignty. A complete act of good faith on the part of state legislators??? HAH...you freakin peeple are seriously deluded. There's a MUCH bigger picture here, I'm not sure what it is yet, but it'll be more obvious as time goes on. This ain't about "by the people, for the people..." you can bank on it! Surrounded by Suckers, Shills, and Sellouts... |
Is45 User ID: 582310 United States 02/21/2009 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from the Federal government to the states... Will he preside over the dissolution of the USA like Gorbachev presided over the dissolution of the USSR ?? ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beyond, There Be Dragons ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 602285 United States 02/21/2009 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama's stimulus law transfers a lot of money Quoting: Is45from the Federal government to the states... Will he preside over the dissolution of the USA like Gorbachev presided over the dissolution of the USSR ?? ~ if the end game is a north american union, and eventually centralized global government... then either the FEDS (i.e. globalists) are beginning to lose control, or a broken union will work in their favor somehow |
Is45 User ID: 582310 United States 02/21/2009 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama's stimulus law transfers a lot of money Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602285from the Federal government to the states... Will he preside over the dissolution of the USA like Gorbachev presided over the dissolution of the USSR ?? ~ if the end game is a north american union, and eventually centralized global government... then either the FEDS (i.e. globalists) are beginning to lose control, or a broken union will work in their favor somehow This is a very interesting read. Closing the 'Collapse Gap': the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US by Dmitry Orlov * " Slide [3] I anticipate that some people will react rather badly to having their country compared to the USSR. I would like to assure you that the Soviet people would have reacted similarly, had the United States collapsed first. Feelings aside, here are two 20th century superpowers, who wanted more or less the same things – things like technological progress, economic growth, full employment, and world domination – but they disagreed about the methods. And they obtained similar results – each had a good run, intimidated the whole planet, and kept the other scared. Each eventually went bankrupt. " View the slides and text here: [link to www.energybulletin.net] ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beyond, There Be Dragons ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 617809 Puerto Rico 02/21/2009 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long read but a good one. The federal government is out of control and needs to replaced, that's the bottom line. Congress no longer represents the people as seen once again recently when every Con-gressmen(lady) received calls 50-1 , saying DO NOT bail out the banks, AIG, etc. The FDA no longer works to protect the health and well being of the public but is an obedient slave to Big Pharmacy and Monsanto. The CIA is the biggest drug cartel in the world, every scandal that comes to light ALWAYS has them dealing drugs and doing other illegal activities, anybody in jail? |
fnord User ID: 448165 United States 02/21/2009 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Communism was the federal government's excuse for going overboard. When Russia collapsed, it became inevitable that the U.S. would go down the same road. Prepare for massively confusing times, with everybody claiming to know what should be done. Don't listen to any of them. Just take care of your own. |
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Is45 User ID: 582310 United States 02/21/2009 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S. WSJ article here [link to online.wsj.com] ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beyond, There Be Dragons ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Is45 User ID: 582310 United States 02/21/2009 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CNN news report US Disintegration By 2010 Predicts Russian prof. IGOR PANARIN [link to www.youtube.com] ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beyond, There Be Dragons ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 617809 Puerto Rico 02/21/2009 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a very interesting read. Quoting: Is45Closing the 'Collapse Gap': the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US by Dmitry Orlov * " Slide [3] I anticipate that some people will react rather badly to having their country compared to the USSR. I would like to assure you that the Soviet people would have reacted similarly, had the United States collapsed first. Feelings aside, here are two 20th century superpowers, who wanted more or less the same things – things like technological progress, economic growth, full employment, and world domination – but they disagreed about the methods. And they obtained similar results – each had a good run, intimidated the whole planet, and kept the other scared. Each eventually went bankrupt. " View the slides and text here: [link to www.energybulletin.net] ~ That is an excellent read! thanks for the link. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 613087 United States 02/21/2009 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long read but a good one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 617809The federal government is out of control and needs to replaced, that's the bottom line. Congress no longer represents the people as seen once again recently when every Con-gressmen(lady) received calls 50-1 , saying DO NOT bail out the banks, AIG, etc. The FDA no longer works to protect the health and well being of the public but is an obedient slave to Big Pharmacy and Monsanto. The CIA is the biggest drug cartel in the world, every scandal that comes to light ALWAYS has them dealing drugs and doing other illegal activities, anybody in jail? I think we all can agree on that. However, the endgame of this breakup will lead to a re-unionizing under a new set of rules. I.E. NWO I don't know about you all but I will fight for that G-damned piece of paper. Until death do we part. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 548940 United States 02/22/2009 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I suspect it will be much different. Quoting: Nightshade 09The end of this conflict. An let us not mistake it for something else. This is will be a Federal Government That are nothing more Globalists and Shrill New World Order Sell Outs vs the last Remains of the Free Independent Republics of America. In essense it will be the New World Order types trying to stamp out the last vestiage of Nationalism and True Patriotism in the world. It will be bloody... But I predict when its all over and smoke clears It will be a case of the United Republics of America. Leading the world wide forces against a New World Order Europe. Shady It will be bloody... But I predict when its all over and smoke clears It will be a case of the United Republics of America. Leading the world wide forces against a New World Order Europe. wow thats an amazing statement |
Lawman User ID: 615366 United States 02/22/2009 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I suspect it will be much different. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548940The end of this conflict. An let us not mistake it for something else. This is will be a Federal Government That are nothing more Globalists and Shrill New World Order Sell Outs vs the last Remains of the Free Independent Republics of America. In essense it will be the New World Order types trying to stamp out the last vestiage of Nationalism and True Patriotism in the world. It will be bloody... But I predict when its all over and smoke clears It will be a case of the United Republics of America. Leading the world wide forces against a New World Order Europe. Shady ------- It will be bloody... But I predict when its all over and smoke clears It will be a case of the United Republics of America. Leading the world wide forces against a New World Order Europe. wow thats an amazing statement I hate to say it, but I may have to agree with it. I have been attempting to wake people up the past ten years as to what the truth is. NotMyGovernment.us [link to www.notmygovernment.us] ` ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
Lawman User ID: 615366 United States 02/22/2009 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CNN news report Quoting: Is45US Disintegration By 2010 Predicts Russian prof. IGOR PANARIN ~ This is undoubtedly NWO planning. The Union must stay together at this time or the states will fall under New World Order control. However, it is important that they understand what is really going on, as I know for a fact they do not have a clue. See this info to understand how thee states have next to no power under the Constitution Thread: The Dangers of a Constitutional Convention ` ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 619589 United States 02/22/2009 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It won't be a civil war, at least not in its historical context. Nope, this one is more likely to be a revolutionary war with people taking to the street to ouster our corrupt and deficient government. The politicians and bankers will believe (erroneously) that "their" military will protect them - and some will. But the majority of our brave servicemen and women will NOT turn a gun on their friends, their neighbors or their family members. Especially when it is painfully obvious who caused this mess and how their families will be suffering as result of it. No, this will clearly be revolutionary. Blood will be shed in the streets and lives lost. Politicans, bankers and corporate masters will be strung up from light poles and signs; publicly lynched. Social order will not return for years. People will instead live in pockets resembling clans to provide for their own needs and protection. We will become, for a time, agrarian again, and will live simply until a new social order emerges. I believe that this all a part of the 2012 apocolypse. Remember, Apocolypse means "New beginning". |