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FOX BREAKING NEWS_ WTF_Handful of REP Governors May Refuse Federal Unemployment Benefits FOR THEIR STATES

 
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Handful of Governors May Refuse Federal Unemployment Benefits...

Louisiana Republican Gov. Bobby Jindal is sticking to his position of rejecting part of the federal stimulus money for his state, saying Sunday that accepting an increase in unemployment benefits will lead to higher taxes on businesses in his state.

Mississippi Republican Gov. Haley Barbour, South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin say they may follow suit. They say the money to be disbursed to the states in the $787 billion spending and tax cuts package comes with too many strings attached.

"The unemployment insurance reform, if you will, would require the state to pay people who are not willing to take a full-time job," Barbour told FOX News, saying his state is not going to expand benefits to part-time workers. "We're not going to change that. ... We're going to give up about $50 million of federal money."

"It would be like spending a dollar to get a dime," Jindal said on NBC's "Meet the Press. "The federal stimulus bill says it has to be a permanent change in state law if you take this money, so within three years, the federal money is gone, we've got now a permanent change in our laws."

"What we would be required to do would be, for the first time, increase the level of benefit for part-time workers," Sanford told "FOX News Sunday." "We can't pay for the benefits already in the program, but to get the stimulus money, we've got to increase the program's size and scale."

The White House says Sanford's state, which has the third highest unemployment rate in the nation, would be eligible for $8 billion from the spending bill, which administration officials say would create 50,000 jobs. Sanford said that's not how job creation works.

"It sounds like the Soviet grain quotas of Stalin's time -- X number of jobs will be created because Washington says so. And that's not the way that jobs get created," he said.

But Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat, said she'll be happy to take whatever cash Sanford and others reject. Also in line with an open hand are Republican Govs. Charlie Crist of Florida and Arnold Schwarzenegger of California.

Most of the governors are in town for the National Governors Association Winter Meeting. Palin, however, is back at home dealing with her state's legislative session.

On Saturday, Democrats claimed that governors who turn down money from are "fringe" politicians eager to score political points.

"All of us are committed to working with President Obama to pull our nation's economy out of the ditch that George W. Bush ran it into," Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley said at the Democratic Governors Association press conference on Saturday. "If some of the fringe governors don't want to do that, they need to step aside and not stand in the way of the nation's interests."

"I think in this instance I would humbly suggest that the real fringe are those that are supporting the stimulus," Sanford, who is chairman of the Republican Governors Association, said in response. "It is not at all in keeping with the principles that made this country great, not at all in keeping with economic reality, not in keeping with a stable dollar, and not in keeping with the sentiments of most of this country."

But Crist said the bill is good for Florida because it will help children stay in school, pay teachers, help Medicaid program stay solvent and build roads in his state. He said the people elected Obama as their leader and that he's willing to help him and work with him when the nation is in such a dire situation.

Schwarzenegger added that it's time to put the needs of the country over principle.

"Well, Governor Sanford says that he does not want to take the money, the federal stimulus package money. And I want to say to him: I'll take it. I'm more than happy to take his money or any other governor in this country that doesn't want to take this money, I take it, because we in California can need it," he said on ABC's "This Week."

"This to me is not about philosophical theory," Granhold added on "FOX News Sunday." "This is about real people who through no fault of their own, are laid off because of a recession. ... So you better believe I'm going to take every dollar that is coming to Michigan. And if my colleagues here in Minnesota and South Carolina don't get -- don't use theirs, I'm going to be first in line to say for my people, for our citizens, to put people to work and to make sure that they can survive through this, I'll take their dollars, too."
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Unemployment benefits are said to total about 2 percent of the stimulus package. Barbour said taking those dollars would force his state to eventually raise taxes when the stimulus money runs out, putting in place what he called an unfair tax on employers.

"There is some (money) we will not take in Mississippi. ... We want more jobs. You don't get more jobs by putting an extra tax on creating jobs," Barbour told CNN's "State of the Union' on Sunday.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, a Republican, said he's going to take the money his state is entitled to receive because it was his constituents who sent it to Washington in the first place.

"In Minnesota's case, we are a major net subsidizer of the federal government, and that's unlike some other states. For every dollar we send in, we only get 72 cents back. So we're paying the bill either way. We're going to take our share of the money," he said, adding that his state won't be hurt by requirements on unemployment benefits because those rules have already been in place for years.

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Michigan. And if my colleagues here in Minnesota and South Carolina don't get -- don't use theirs, I'm going to be first in line to say for my people, for our citizens, to put people to work and to make sure that they can survive through this, I'll take their dollars, too."


ILL TAKE THEIRS SIR
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And just how the fu*k are people without jobs supposed to feed themselves and their families?
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That is crazy.

That federal money not only pays for unemployment benefits but it pays for the Employment Centers and Counselors, re-education and job programs.

So, basically they will be laying off EVEN MORE people in their states, as well as cutting people off from very basic neccessities...like FOOD... and no money to pay for them.

They better wake the f@#k up.

The riots will start their first.
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Good for them. I hope they send it all to California. We'll take it.

Besides, isn't it obvious that nobody cares about the poor and suffering populations in these southern states. You know, the poorest states in the union that, on average, accept more federal support than they produce in taxes and so on.

I'm wondering how all of the poor, the minorities, the unemployed, or those receiving a 3rd world education feel about the decisions being made by their privileged/white elected officials.
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THIS IS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT STARTING


10TH AMENDEMNT REFUSE ALL FED DOLLARS


TELL THE FED TO GO O HELL


PROBLEM THEY PICKED THE ISSUE THAT WILL CAUSE AMERICAN PEOLE TO RIOT WHEN THEY GOT NO BACKUP MONEY


THIS WILL DRIVE PEOPLE IN STREET


PLANNED SHIT ?
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Nothing is free. Not even the messiah's so called stimulus money. There are string attached that the governors don't want to be tied up with.

Gas, grass or ass...no one rides for free.
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ME SMELLS A PHYS OP FORMING HERE


STATE GOV'S ALL MEET WITH OBAMA A WEEK AGO OR SO BACK


AND NOW THIS SOME GOP REFUSE MONEY FOR UNEMPLOYMENT SHIT


PLANNED CHAOS?
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And just how the fu*k are people without jobs supposed to feed themselves and their families?
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dude....get a hair cut and get a real job...like the rest of us sorry SOB'S............WORK!!...2 JOBS IF U HAVE TOO...I DID.....SHIT!!!
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The republicans gave $8.5 trillion to the bankers within the last 8 months.

There is no more money for us. Ha Ha!
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The republicans gave $8.5 trillion to the bankers within the last 8 months.

There is no more money for us. Ha Ha!
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Problem is that our most populous states blame these conservative fringe states for the mess we are in right now. Sure, we are all angry at the feds. But it will be a cold day in hell before I march through the streets to support conservative dimwits who have voted on "moral" issues for the last 20 years.

Not much talk of gay marriage, stem cell research, of flag burning now. Also appears that most have taken the "support our troops" stickers off their minivan. They simply have no ground to stand on. Just more of the same. They would rather stick it to Obama and do anything possible to, as they confess to, see him fail. The rest of us simply do not matter.

Sorry, I cannot take to the streets for their cause.
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That is crazy.

That federal money not only pays for unemployment benefits but it pays for the Employment Centers and Counselors, re-education and job programs.

So, basically they will be laying off EVEN MORE people in their states, as well as cutting people off from very basic neccessities...like FOOD... and no money to pay for them.

They better wake the f@#k up.

The riots will start their first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 620609

remember the feds stating that if you do not set the hwy speed at 55mph you lose so many $$$$ of federal funds? same thing .

it is called Federal blackmail, do as we say or else you do not get the money.. Get it yet? Do you like being pushed around or made to do something you know will cause damage in the long run?

The states have the right to refuse the money. I would also knowing that the state would have to change the laws on part time employees.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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The republicans gave $8.5 trillion to the bankers within the last 8 months.

There is no more money for us. Ha Ha!
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Only Congress is allowed to originate spending bills. WHO has been in charge of Congress for the past 2 1/2 years? All but a few Republicans voted against the bail-out and the stimulus bill. ALL the Democrats voted for both of them.
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Do you like being pushed around or made to do something you know will cause damage in the long run?
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Yes. As an American, this has happened my entire life. As a Californian, we were told we could not raise our emissions standards, even though we all know that not doing so causes damage in the long run. I remember as a social worker, having to take children from their parents because they smoked marijuana, only to have the kids molested in a group home, homeless, in prison themselves. I remember as a probation officer, sending countless youngsters to jail for simply providing dirty drug tests, knowing that what I was doing was only making their problems worse. I remember having to support the war in Iraq out of fear of being called unpatriotic, even though I knew it was wrong.

I'm sorry, very poor argument.
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Do you like being pushed around or made to do something you know will cause damage in the long run?

Yes. As an American, this has happened my entire life. As a Californian, we were told we could not raise our emissions standards, even though we all know that not doing so causes damage in the long run. I remember as a social worker, having to take children from their parents because they smoked marijuana, only to have the kids molested in a group home, homeless, in prison themselves. I remember as a probation officer, sending countless youngsters to jail for simply providing dirty drug tests, knowing that what I was doing was only making their problems worse. I remember having to support the war in Iraq out of fear of being called unpatriotic, even though I knew it was wrong.

I'm sorry, very poor argument.
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to me it just sounds like you are a perfect subject that likes to be ruled and that you are afraid to fight for what YOU believe is important and so you bow down and say yes master..

speak your mind openly , yes you may piss off some but you will be free of control.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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when oil prices began to rise after 911 all sates should have went back to 55 mph speed lmits at once..it could have heped so much and saved many lives ..
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I say it's a great test of the REP plan and they should put their money where their mouth is!!!!!!

All REP governors should say no the money and do it their way!! hehehe

Would love to see the out come of that move!
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to me it just sounds like you are a perfect subject that likes to be ruled and that you are afraid to fight for what YOU believe is important and so you bow down and say yes master..
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I don't get our point. I quit my previous jobs that conflicted with my moral compass and went with something new that did not. But, to suggest that Obama's stimulus package represents a time in America where we are for once going to be pushed around and made to do something we know will cause damage in the long run? Sorry, we have all been doing it, for a long time. Sorry for pointing out the hypocrisy.

Maybe everything has gone “your” way thus far, but that does not apply to all of us Americans who have been forced to live “your” way.
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when oil prices began to rise after 911 all sates should have went back to 55 mph speed lmits at once..it could have heped so much and saved many lives ..
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Screw you grandma!

72MPH and little higher on straights 2001 VW Jetta Chipped 36.1 MPG 600 miles to DC and Back!
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Perfect. During the next election cycle we can get rid of those Republican troglodytes too.
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to me it just sounds like you are a perfect subject that likes to be ruled and that you are afraid to fight for what YOU believe is important and so you bow down and say yes master..


I don't get our point. I quit my previous jobs that conflicted with my moral compass and went with something new that did not. But, to suggest that Obama's stimulus package represents a time in America where we are for once going to be pushed around and made to do something we know will cause damage in the long run? Sorry, we have all been doing it, for a long time. Sorry for pointing out the hypocrisy.

Maybe everything has gone “your” way thus far, but that does not apply to all of us Americans who have been forced to live “your” way.
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It is the people that the Government works for / to serve. If more people would wake up and see the truth .

The states need to become more independant and tell the Government to screw off . Just as we the people need to do also, get rid of the lifetime membership to welfare and earn our keep and be responsible for ourselves and our actions.

there will be rough times for all aspecially over the next year or until the USA collapses.
Remember not everyone is bad and neighbors do still help each other out and local communities pull together and can accomplish feats thought impossible.
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The republicans gave $8.5 trillion to the bankers within the last 8 months.

There is no more money for us. Ha Ha!
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That was a Bush proposal, rammed down our throats by DEMOCRATS Nancy Pelosi, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank.

There is NO difference between Repubs and Dems on the hill except for a handful on both sides (Paul, Kucinich, Kaptur) who still have principles. There aren't enough of them, though to stop a bill.
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That reeks of a planned chaos alright I agree. The Fed and FEMA are STRATEGIST.
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STATE GOV'S ALL MEET WITH OBAMA A WEEK AGO OR SO BACK


AND NOW THIS SOME GOP REFUSE MONEY FOR UNEMPLOYMENT SHIT


PLANNED CHAOS?
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Sure every post I have mentions goat blood...How do you think we get plasma tv's?

Organic needs are being assaulted. I'm not amused by this & encourage all to grow heirloom seed for themselves.

The garden gives greatest power.
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Those states planning to secede from the union. Such states may seek to develop their own money currency for each state.

That's the reason for the federal assistance refusal I think.
Brother sun, intuition moon. Home at the forest.

Sure every post I have mentions goat blood...How do you think we get plasma tv's?

Organic needs are being assaulted. I'm not amused by this & encourage all to grow heirloom seed for themselves.

The garden gives greatest power.
Diabetes curing food list [Forget the FDA - Think for yourself]:
Thread: Every item recently recalled by FDA for salmonella has diabetic healing also prostate Big Pharma rids their competition
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chuckle No training to show people how to live without sucking the tit... I smell Order Out Of Chaos!!!
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