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OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
Soldier doubts eligibility, defies president's orders
'As an officer, my sworn oath to support and defend our Constitution requires this'
Posted: February 23, 2009
9:35 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

A U.S. soldier on active duty in Iraq has called President Obama an "impostor" in a statement in which he affirmed plans to join as plaintiff in a challenge to Obama's eligibility to be commander in chief.

The statement was publicized by California attorney Orly Taitz who, along with her Defend Our Freedom Foundation, is working on a series of legal cases seeking to uncover Obama's birth records and other documents that would reveal whether he meets the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

"As an active-duty officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of president of the United States," wrote Scott Easterling in a "to-whom-it-may-concern" letter.

(Story continues below)



Obama "has absolutely refused to provide to the American public his original birth certificate, as well as other documents which may prove or disprove his eligibility," Easterling wrote. "In fact, he has fought every attempt made by concerned citizens in their effort to force him to do so."

Taitz told WND she had advised Easterling to obtain legal counsel before making any statements regarding the commander-in-chief, but he insisted on moving forward. His contention is that as an active member of the U.S. military, he is required to follow orders from a sitting president, and he needs – on pain of court-martial – to know that Obama is eligible.

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 250,000 others and sign up now!

Taitz said other legal cases questioning Obama's eligibility filed by members of the military mostly have included retired officers, and courts several times have ruled they don't have standing to issue their challenge.

Easterling, however, is subject to enemy fire and certainly would have a reason to need to know the legitimacy of his orders, she argued.

"Until Mr. Obama releases a 'vault copy' of his original birth certificate for public review, I will consider him neither my Commander in Chief nor my President, but rather, a usurper to the Office – an impostor," his statement said.

Easterling said he joined the Army at age 40 after working in Iraq as a contractor.

"I chose to work … to support my troops and then left that lucrative position when the Army raised its maximum enlistment age to 40. Upon completion of basic training, I entered Officer Candidate School and commissioned as a 2LT in August 2007. After completing the subsequent basic officer leadership courses, I was assigned to Ft. Knox and shortly thereafter deployed to Balad, Iraq," he wrote.

"I implore all service-members and citizens to contact their senators and representatives and demand that they require Mr. Obama prove his eligibility. Our Constitution and our great nation must not be allowed to be disgraced," he wrote.

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They should have gone to Hawaii. Stop beating a dead horse op. Nobody wants to give money to Phillip Berg.
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newsflash


If OBAMARAMA doesn't come clean here, it is the END of his ability to govern.



newsflash

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He will be "re-educated" immediately!
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This soldier is suffering from a severe case of the deadly Bush virus. Get him some help right away.
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Yeah, it seems the powers that be would have checked his credentials as part of the pre-qualification process.
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That soldier is a weak sister.
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They should have gone to Hawaii. Stop beating a dead horse op. Nobody wants to give money to Phillip Berg.
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This crap is getting really old
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They should have gone to Hawaii. Stop beating a dead horse op. Nobody wants to give money to Phillip Berg.
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Stop personalising the issue. That's a pathetic distraction. The issue REMAINS and YOU know it.
But if you want to live with your head buried in the ground, then continue.
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newsflash


If OBAMARAMA doesn't come clean here, it is the END of his ability to govern.



newsflash

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The fact that some people can't follow facts in this case dating pre-election is the END of their ability to reason.
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They should have gone to Hawaii. Stop beating a dead horse op. Nobody wants to give money to Phillip Berg.

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This crap is getting really old
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So is crap replies such as yours.
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Re: Soldier serving in Iraq calls President Obama an "imposter."
They should have gone to Hawaii. Stop beating a dead horse op. Nobody wants to give money to Phillip Berg.

Stop personalising the issue. That's a pathetic distraction. The issue REMAINS and YOU know it.
But if you want to live with your head buried in the ground, then continue.
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The issue is moot and you posted it. I stand by everything I stated.
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newsflash


If OBAMARAMA doesn't come clean here, it is the END of his ability to govern.



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The fact that some people can't follow facts in this case dating pre-election is the END of their ability to reason.
 Quoting: entropy

What facts? The facts are:
1. Obama's paternal grandmother stated that she attended his birth.
2. Obama was an Indonesian citizen, according to his school registration form. That means, if he ever had American citizenship, he had to have given it up because Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.
3. Obama's mother was too young to transmit US citizenship to her son.
Reason ends when people cannot accept facts that they don't want to believe.
Get over it.
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They should have gone to Hawaii. Stop beating a dead horse op. Nobody wants to give money to Phillip Berg.

Stop personalising the issue. That's a pathetic distraction. The issue REMAINS and YOU know it.
But if you want to live with your head buried in the ground, then continue.

The issue is moot and you posted it. I stand by everything I stated.
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Yes, bigots usually do whenever facts are presented that contradict what they want to believe.
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you people really need to let it go... flogging a dead horse are we?
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So is crap replies such as yours.
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You're using World Net Daily as a source..why should anyone take it seriously? Might as well be sourcing Pravda
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newsflash


If OBAMARAMA doesn't come clean here, it is the END of his ability to govern.



newsflash

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The fact that some people can't follow facts in this case dating pre-election is the END of their ability to reason.

What facts? The facts are:
1. Obama's paternal grandmother stated that she attended his birth.
2. Obama was an Indonesian citizen, according to his school registration form. That means, if he ever had American citizenship, he had to have given it up because Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.
3. Obama's mother was too young to transmit US citizenship to her son.
Reason ends when people cannot accept facts that they don't want to believe.
Get over it.
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No. Although posted several times those are facts that are always linked to someone's blog or politically based website, usually trying to sale me something. Something I would have to buy with money. Saying that's factual is like saying Dorothy and ToTo are real because it's in the Wizard of Oz.
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Investigator casts doubt on Obama's birth residence
Neighbor believes family didn't live at address in newspaper announcement
Posted: December 16, 2008
10:09 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2009 WorldNetDaily



A private investigator has released to WND an affidavit that casts doubt on whether Barack Obama's family lived at the address listed in the published notice of his birth in 1961.

Jorge Baro was hired by WND to investigate issues related to Obama's birth amid allegations the Democrat does not meet the Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural born citizen."

Baro's affidavit documents an interview his staff conducted with Beatrice Arakaki, who has lived at 6075 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu since before Obama was born.

The affadivit is at the center of a federal lawsuit filed prior to the November election in Hattiesburg, Miss., before U.S. District Judge Keith Starrett. The suit is one of several yet to be adjudicated that calls for proof of Obama being a "natural born citizen" as required by the Constitution.

Baro is the in-house senior investigator for Elite Legal Services, LLC, in Royal Palm Beach, Fla.

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In Hawaii, WND was able to locate at the Honolulu public library microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser Aug. 13, 1961. The announcement in the "Births, Marriages, Death" section read: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4."

Arakaki told Baro's investigators she had no recollection of Obama being born or of the family living next door having a black child born to a white mother.

Baro sent a team of investigators to Honolulu to explore records regarding current residents of Kalanianaole Highway and to track down residents back to 1961.

Baro's investigators were unable to locate any current or past resident of Kalanianaole Highway who could recall Obama or his family living at the address listed in the Sunday Advertiser announcement.


Baro also sent investigators to the newspaper offices to examine files, but the Advertiser could not confirm who actually placed the ad.

According to Baro's affidavit, Beatrice Arakaki affirmed she was a neighbor of the address listed. She has lived at her current residence of 6075 Kalanianaole Highway from before 1961 to the present.

Moreover, Arakaki said she believed that when Obama lived with the Dunhams, his grandparents, the family address was in Waikiki, not on Kalanianaole Highway.

Baro was able to determine the previous owners of the residence at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway – the alleged address of Obama's parents when he was born – were Orland S. and Thelma S. (Young) Lefforge, both of whom are deceased.

Baro's affidavit also documents that the Certification of Live Birth that Obama posted on his campaign website is not the original "long form" birth certificate issued in 1961 by the obstetrician or physician giving birth and the hospital where the baby was born.

Baro's investigators learned that a "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program" established in 1911 during the territorial era and terminated in 1972 during the statehood era allowed Hawaiian residents to apply for a "Late Birth Certificate," called a "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth," which appears identical to the "birth certificate" Obama posted on his campaign website.

"This raised the question in my mind as to whether the 'Certification of Live Birth,' which is the only document that has been produced and as previously stated solely handled by the representatives of factcheck.org outside Obama's campaign, is a certification of a live birth or a late birth," Baro stated in his affidavit.

"I am left with the conclusion that a simple request from Senator Barack Obama to produce the 'long form' (redacted if necessary) would end any speculation or question as to his birthplace," Baro's affidavit continued. "His continued denial to do so is suspect, in my professional opinion."

Baro also pointed out that factcheck.org is funded by the Annenberg Foundation, which "is at the center of the ongoing Obama-Bill Ayers controversy – hardly an unbiased source for information in my view."
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See. Even the newspaper ad was phony. Just part of a web of deception implemented to make people think Obama was an American.
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Bush was bad, and Obama is 10 times worse. Face it, the government doesn't work for the people anymore.

There will be a revolution in the future, but it has to happen before the current generation of youngsters grow up...as they will be too ignorant of such matters (thanks to the breakdown of the American Family) and wont even know any different.

America needs to be defended by spilling blood if necessary, before it is too late.

Obama could have ended this thing right away by producing his certificate. The fact is, he didn't and wont (because he can't) But, when you have the press and the education system on your side you can get away with anything I guess. The successful way of marginalizing such a HUGE issue, is to relegated to the seedy underworld of internet bloggers and conspiracy websites. This ensures that no one would even take the subject seriously, and the mainstream media is 100% complicit in that fact.

Wake up folks, all you who bitched about "the patriot act taking away your civil rights"....bla...bla...bla....you ignorant fools are loosing something real right here, right now and your too ignorant to know any different..products of the environment you receive your input from I guess.
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the government doesn't work for the people anymore....
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THAT'S what we all need too be discussing!

Not this BS. TPTB want us to fight amongst ourselves to keep us distracted. So, we won't focus on the bigger problem(s) which is well stated above!
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And trying to appear too clever to be duped by such silly issues as Obama's birthplace really does not cut it when so many highly intelligent people take the issue VERY seriously.

But offering ad hominems instead of thought-out arguments is the style of the mindless Obamabots.
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It's almost as if becoming President doesn't require a person to show any papers, or give their social security number. He's President, get over it. When I was born my birth was announced in the local newspaper, and guess what? So was Obama's.
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But he was okay to obey the Chimperor? Doh!!
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And trying to appear too clever to be duped by such silly issues as Obama's birthplace really does not cut it when so many highly intelligent people take the issue VERY seriously.

But offering ad hominems instead of thought-out arguments is the style of the mindless Obamabots.
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appearing to clever?

Ok - I'll pay along... lets say your right - lets say he isn't "naturally born"? you think TPTB are going to replace him? You think anything will change politically?

what are you going to do? They're taking your money - they're taking your jobs, they're taking your quality of life, they're taking your rights, and they've silenced your voice and you've done nothing...

but you will complain about his birth certificate...

and I'm too clever?

maybe you're just not aware...
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Barack Obama birth certificate forgery confirmed:
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You're using World Net Daily as a source..why should anyone take it seriously? Might as well be sourcing Pravda
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WND - The same folks who offer Coulter, Corsi, and other extreme nutjobs.

Look at the list of "challenges" - from perennial wackos like Alan Keyes? No cred.

The advertising on their website says it all. Porno come ons and money making scams.
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This 40 YO Lt. is gonna be slammed by the U.C.M.J. in the end!
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Obama Birth Certificate Facts and Obama Citizenship Facts

...........Obama's father was never a U.S. citizen. Thus, Obama is not a "natural born" citizen. When Obama was born he was not a "natural born citizen" since both parents of a child must be citizens at the time of birth of the child in order for the child to be a "natural born" citizen, in addition to the requirement that the child must be born in the USA. Obama may be a "born citizen" depending on the evidence in Hawaii. But "born" is NOT synonymous with "natural born". And I am not talking about the difference between natural child birth and a "C" section. Natural in this sense refers to the "natural law" definition of citizenship. Obama can never be considered a "natural born citizen" no matter where he was born because his father was not a U.S. citizen. Both parents must be citizens at the time of birth of the child in the USA for the child to be a "natural born citizen" per our Constitution's framers intent and the "natural law", as codified by Vattel in 1758 in his legal reference treatise, "The Law of Nations". The "divided loyalties" concerns of the framers of a person who is selected to serve as our President and Commander-in-Chief of our military comes into play. Thus the framers required a "natural born" citizen only mandate in the U.S. Constitution for the Office of President and Commander-in-Chief of our military. [link to www.youtube.com]

"Natural born citizenship" is defined in the 250 year old scholarly book, "Law of Nations", written in 1758, decades before our Constitution and was used as a scholarly reference by our U.S. Constitution's framers. Some excerpts, "... natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. ... I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country". See more here: [link to countryfirst.bravehost.com] Also see this chart which shows who is and who is not a "natural born citizen" depending on whom your parents are and where you are born: [link to countryfirst.bravehost.com] An easily printable and down-loadable copy of this chart explaining the various types of citizenship mentioned in our Constitution is available at SCRIBD.com: [link to www.scribd.com]

Comment and observation: When Obama wrote his first book he titled it "Dreams from My Father". He wrote of his father in Kenya and how his father hoped and dreamed of changing the Kenyan government and the world to Socialism and Marxism. How prophetic Vattel's words are in describing natural law and the propensity of man to identify with the land of their father. Obama did not write "Dreams from My Mother" and of America for his source of inspiration, dreams, and aspirations. Obama wrote of his father and his father's Kenyan goals for Socialism and Marxism as his inspiration and his dreams of what he wanted to accomplish in America and for the world. Again, we must look to his first book title and his first book contents (and you must read the original un-scrubbed, first edition version to get the absolute passion of his hatred of whites and the American system of government) to learn where Obama's true heart and soul loyalties are. And they are not to the USA, the birth place of his mother. His loyalties are to his father and other places outside the USA. He considers himself a "citizen of the world", as he said in Berlin, before he considers himself to be a citizen of the USA. His political and familial foreign influences and interests and loyalties are obvious. As an adult he even meddled in Kenyan politics to help a member of his and his father's tribe there achieve power in Kenya. This is not the type of President and Commander in Chief of our military that John Jay and General George Washington meant to have in future Presidents when they put the term "natural born citizen" in Article II of our Constitution as a necessary qualification for that singular and most powerful position in our new nation. They did not want a future President to have any recent familial and/or foreign allegiances, affinities, or influences on him. Jay's and Washington's worst fears about a possible future nation's leader have now been fulfilled by ignoring our Constitution with the seating of Obama in the Oval Office. The Constitution was ignored in this election cycle with the help of an enabling Main Stream Media. It is now up to "We the People" to undue the wrong done against the Constitution and to the founding father's of this great nation.

FACT: Obama has NOT provided a certified copy of an original, typed, vault copy, long-form, birth certificate, signed by his mother and delivering doctor with the name of the hospital thereon, to be used to conclusively prove one of the two key elements used in determining his "natural born" citizenship status per the U.S. Constitution, i.e., where he was born.

Being a "natural born citizen" is required to serve in the office of the Presidency under our U.S. Constitution. Obama has only produced a computer-generated, short-form, registration of birth form called a "Certification of Live Birth", (aka COLB). And some question the genuineness of that proffered document. But note, it does not say "Certificate" it says "Certification". Thus it is not a Birth "Certificate". And this is a key difference in the discussion of what Obama has proffered and what he has not. Only the actual long form original typed version signed by the mother and delivering doctor and/or other witnesses is a Birth "Certificate" under Hawaiian law and to the courts. In Hawaii that document is named "Certificate of Live Birth". Note, the change in the one word, "Certificate" of Live Birth (aka long form Birth Certificate), not "Certification" of Live Birth (aka COLB, the computer generated short form), which is what Obama has proffered thus far. And a short form "COLB" is not a conclusive legal document to prove birth and is not acceptable to most courts for proof of birth facts. A short form "COLB" shows a birth was registered. But not by whom and exactly how. Nor does it provide the facts necessary to trace the facts to independent third party witnesses or facts, such as the name of the hospital or doctor. See videos below for more on that. So, Obama has proved his birth was registered in Hawaii but has not proven conclusively that he was physically born there, nor what exactly is stated or not stated on the long form document filled out in 1961, if one exists. Read the next paragraph as to why.

Registration of live births under the vague laws in Hawaii in 1961 is not proof of birth in Hawaii at all. Read the laws on the books in Hawaii for registration of births in 1961.
This is what the law actually allowed in 1961.

"Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child."

See links below for more about the relevant Hawaiian law. A computer generated Certification of Live Birth (COLB) issued in Hawaii is not acceptable to even their own courts as conclusive proof of birth in Hawaii. Under Hawaiian law in 1961, a child could be born anywhere in the world and have the birth registered in Hawaii by the mother after the birth, with true or false information, without any third party independent verification of said "facts" entered on the form by the mother, upon her returning to Hawaii using this law on the books in 1961.
[link to www.capitol.hawaii.gov]
[link to www.americanthinker.com]

Read this simple, straight forward, comparative report about what Obama has proffered as evidence of "natural born citizenship" and what he has NOT provided:
[link to www.peoplespassions.org]

Reference proof of natural born citizenship, a computer generated form (aka COLB) can be easily PhotoShop'd, altered, or forged. Such a simple registration record could be retro-actively filed in Hawaii in 1961 as a post birth event registration after birth of a child, with the birth not even having occurred in Hawaii. No one checked these retro-active registrations in HI at that time which were done by simply signing an affidavit that the facts are true. The mother or grandparents could have done this retro-actively upon the mother's return to give the infant child citizenship. This was a possible cover up at the time by the mother and grandmother. The short form data is then being abstracted from a false, delayed registration of birth, filed with false information by the mother with a simple affidavit with no non-family member, independent witnesses. That was permitted under Hawaii law in 1961. A mother could register the birth of her child upon returning to Hawaii after the actual birth elsewhere. But who knew this child would grow up an run for President and that someone would dig into the records to find the truth, as is now being done. Such a case would explain the stalling, delaying, and obfuscating tactics Obama and his lawyers are engaging in. They don't want the true nature of the birth records registered in Hawaii by his mother and maternal grandmother revealed.

FACT: A qualification per the U.S. Constitution for a person to serve as the President of the U.S. is that they must be a "natural born citizen". And there are several categories of citizenship in the USA: Naturalized, Derivative, Statutory, Native Born, and Natural Born. Also see this chart which shows who is and who is not a citizen, native citizen, and natural born citizen depending on whom your parents are and where you are born: [link to www.theobamafile.com]

Obama may or may not be Native Born depending on the validity of his paternal grandmother's statement in Kenya, and the sealed hospital records in Mombasa, Kenya, but he is certainly not "natural born" since for that term both his parents must be U.S. citizens (of any category) when he was born. And per statements made in his own campaign's website, and in his books, Obama has admitted his father was a British Subject when Obama was born. Obama's father never at any time was a U.S. citizen. Thus Obama is NOT a "Natural Born Citizen (NBC)" of the U.S. under our Constitution's framer's intent. And thus he cannot serve as our President under our Constitution. Defining "natural born citizen", a dissertation on that subject:
[link to federalistblog.us]

Obama will apparently have several hurdles to cross to prove he is a "natural born citizen". First he has to conclusively prove he was born in Hawaii. And again, a computer generated birth registration form, aka the COLB type document proffered by Obama's campaign, is not sufficient evidence for most court cases, let alone to assume the office of Presidency of the U.S. For more about Obama's birth certificate and citizenship issue, below are links to web pages which explain what a "vault copy" of an original birth certificate is and an example of what one looks like from circa the time frame of interest in Hawaii. Obama has NOT provided such a document and refuses to do so.
[link to www.peoplespassions.org]

For the time period in question, the originals were generally typed or hand printed, and will have the signature of the mother on it, the name and signature of the delivering doctor, the name of the hospital, as well as other witnesses to the birth, if any. Obama refuses to provide a certified "vault copy" of his original birth registration in Hawaii. This web page explains and provides exhibits and examples what Obama has provided and what he has not, to date. Also and very importantly note that to date, Obama has NOT personally said in public, "I am a natural born citizen of the U.S. per the U.S. Constitution", and produced a certified "vault copy" of the long form, original birth certificate signed by his mother and the doctor and showing the hospital record where he was born. Why has he not done that? Why has he not released his college records from Occidental in CA, Columbia in NY, and Harvard in MA? Why is he hiding behind his lawyers on this?

FACT: To serve as a U.S. Senator the person must be a U.S. Citizen.

The problem Obama has with that issue is whether his step-father, who moved the family to Indonesia after marrying his mother, legally "adopted" him or "acknowledged" him as his son in Indonesia with the mother's concurrence, thereby renouncing his U.S. citizenship while living in Indonesia. To get into schools in Indonesia at that time the child had to be an Indonesian citizen, and not a U.S. citizen. If his U.S. citizenship was renounced, it would make him no longer a U.S. citizen at all, unless he re-applied for naturalization upon return to the U.S. This is discussed in the Berg vs. Obama case brief to SCOTUS. See: [link to www.obamacrimes.com] for the details and the entire Berg brief and supplemental filings. It is also alleged in that brief that when Obama was about age 20, c1981/1982, that he traveled to Pakistan with a college buddy and student from Pakistan who he met Occidental College. At that time period U.S. citizens could not travel to Pakistan. Thus he must have used some other documentation to get into Pakistan. It is alleged that he used an Indonesian passport that he had retained from his youth and kept it up to date which documented him as an Indonesian citizen, and not a U.S. citizen. Obama has refused to produce any of his passports data from that c1981/1982 time period. Given the poor relations between the U.S. and Pakistan in that time period, he likely traveled to Pakistan on that Indonesian passport, which said he was an Indonesian citizen, which he likely was per accounts and records in Indonesia. His school records in Indonesian say his parents their declared him an Indonesian student. Images of that school document have been published online declaring him an Indonesian citizen of the religion of Islam. And some say when he later enrolled in Occidental College, he declared himself a foreign student and citizen of Indonesia to get generous aide available for foreign citizens at that college. Obama will not release those college records either. He is taking the same stance with his college records as he is taking with his birth records and also with his medical records too. Lots to think about. But his renounced U.S. citizenship by his mother and step-father when in Indonesia, and traveling as an adult on the Indonesian passport, and/or probably making other statements as an adult of being an Indonesian citizen in other records in the past such as college records, he would thus be knowingly acknowledging his renounced U.S. citizenship, and that would disqualify (DQ) him as a "natural born citizen" for sure, and in fact he would not even be a citizen at all at his point. And if he is not legally a U.S. citizen at all, he cannot serve as a U.S. Senator, and all that time in the Senate was done under fraudulent status too. Berg also then further argues in his brief to SCOTUS that Obama may even be an illegal alien in the U.S. under current law if he cannot prove he was ever naturalized upon returning to Hawaii from Indonesia. Again, lots more to think about regarding Obama's citizenship status.
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FACT A: Obama has NOT provided a certified copy of an original, typed, vault copy, long-form, birth certificate, signed by his mother and delivering doctor with the name of the hospital thereon, to be used to conclusively prove one of the two key elements used in determining his "natural born" citizenship status per the U.S. Constitution, i.e., where he was born.


FACT B: A qualification per the U.S. Constitution for a person to serve as the President of the U.S. is that they must be a "natural born citizen".


FACT C: To serve as a U.S. Senator the person must be a U.S. Citizen.


Bury your heads in the sand as much as you need to, Obambots. The facts won't go away.
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FACT A:
[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

[link to www.factcheck.org]


FACT B:
The above links dis-prove your "theory" fact


FACT C:
Again, see Fact A answer.


Bury your heads in the sand as much as you need to, Obama haters. The facts won't go away.

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