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COMET LULIN is the topic of discussion. I have the little blue book called, “ Raphael’s Mundane Astrology”.
In the book he gives the effects upon nations [ in his words], that are influenced by comets.

I have attached the chapters and verses that apply, it is note worthy that on page 69 , quote: serious troubles when in the West.
and in Common signs sedition and pestilence.

I ask you if the antics of the Governments of all of the world in regard to finance do not meet the criteria of being seditious acts , I personally believe they set into motion to help bring about the One World Government ?





RAPHAEL’S MUNDANE ASTROLOGY
OR
THE EFFECTS OF THE PLANETS AND SIGNS UPON THE NATIONS AND
COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.


CHAPTER XXVII.
COMETS.
“The hour arrived, and it became
a wandering mass of shapeless flame-
A pathless comet, and a curse,
The menace of the universe.”

THE influence of comets on the affairs of the world is a fact which has
been handed down from remote generations,
and it has been found that, at the times when large comets made
their appearances, great calamities have fallen upon the world in the
shape of violent earthquakes, pestilences and famine. For instance,
with respect to the great comet of Halley, whose return occurred in the
present year, 1910, it was found that from about two years previous to
its approach earthquakes and electrical storms were frequent.
According to the Astrologer Cardan, the rising or first appearance of
these phenomena should be considered, whether presenting
69
themselves at the time of eclipses or at any other time. They incite
heated and turbulent dispositions in the atmosphere and in the
conditions of men. It is said that the comet first appearing in the East
signifies the rising of some eminent law-giver ; in the midheaven, of
some eminent king ; but generally serious troubles when in the West.
In Cardinal signs they denote the death of great men, in Fixed signs
foreign wars and invasion, and in Common signs sedition and
pestilence. Their position in regard to the twelve houses should also be
considered, as they seriously affect the matters and things ruled over
by such houses. Thus in the ninth house, scandal or detriment to
religion, in the tenth or twelfth, pestilence or scarcity of corn ; in the
eighth house, many sudden and terrible deaths.
The part of the Zodiac in which they first appear should also be noted ;
for the countries ruled over by such signs will suffer many serious
troubles.
We are also told by great writers that “comets and fiery swords and
such like signs are wont to be fore-runners of great changes in the
world.” History records the fact that a comet in the form of a sword
hung over Jerusalem for a whole year, previous to the destruction of that city by
the Romans. An illustration in later days is recorded in the case of the
late Russo-Japanese war; for one of the comets of 1903 was
discovered and appeared in the sign Aquarius; and we are informed by
an old author on Astrology that comets appearing in the sign Aquarius
presignify war and bloodshed, and that the events presignified usually
became apparent when the Sun arrives at the degree influenced by the
appearance of the comet; and it is remarkable to note that the RussoJapanese
war broke out within a week of the time when the Sun
passed this particular degree in the following February.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
CHAPTER XXVIII.
THE PARTS OF THE WORLD AFFECTED BY THE SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC.
Pisces.
Countries.-Portugal, Calabria, Galicia, Normandy, Nubia, Sahara
desert.
Towns and Cities.-Alexandria, Ratisbon, Worms, Seville, Compostella,
Bournemouth, Farnham, Tiverton, Christchurch, Cowes, Regensburg,
Grimsby, Southport, Lancaster, King’s Lynn, Preston
Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank
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Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your
feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!'
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darn, you guys are a tough crowd.

Should I have mentioned boobs and beer?
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Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your
feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!'
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grinningAztec-Maya Divination Results

The following was generated on Thu Feb 26 23:19:23 2009 (GMT).

The Question:
I ask you if the antics of the Governments of all of the world in regard to finance do not meet the criteria of being seditious acts , I personally believe they set into motion to help bring about the One World Government ?
1. The Significator: 6 Ik (Wind)
There is nervous energy in the air. Feelings become words and words link one to another. Communications are all important now. Talks and discussions will arise as it is becoming obvious that many issues require settlement or revision.
Number 6 in this position means -
Circumstances relating to the question or the situation are a holding pattern -- they are repetitive and ongoing. Conditions are secure, but there are also significant limitations.
2. The Challenge: 12 Oc (Dog)
Cooperation is a failure. There are problems having to do with emotional maturity. Relationships with authority figures are strained.
Number 12 in this position means -
Centering or focus is still lacking. Conditions demand a broad-minded, almost universal response.
3. The Outcome: 13 Kan (Lizard)
There is success in putting on a performance. Acting on your bodily urges may also be part of the solution. There is a need to follow your destiny. You are no longer part of the crowd, you are alone, a unique individual. Take a chance. Dance. Don't miss a trick.
Number 13 in this position means -
Things are at a state of completion, or about to be completed. The end of the line has been reached -- but there is potential for good luck. Last minute adjustments will be made. In general, conditions are unique, complex, well-advanced, and comprehensible. The outcome is final.
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Let it be Fun and Exciting is in fact our command to let this good and right thing be so.
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no beer or boobs for me thanx...

seriously, great find, very interesting indeed.

TY hf
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darn, you guys are a tough crowd.

Should I have mentioned boobs and beer?
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Agreed a tough crowd - LifesReflections , I am no astrologer but I like some astro - Celestial Timings is free this month - very good astro - link is at my thread , if you are interested.

Thread: Celestial Timing for March - Free

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grinningAztec-Maya Divination Results

The following was generated on Thu Feb 26 23:19:23 2009 (GMT).

The Question:
I ask you if the antics of the Governments of all of the world in regard to finance do not meet the criteria of being seditious acts , I personally believe they set into motion to help bring about the One World Government ?
1. The Significator: 6 Ik (Wind)
There is nervous energy in the air. Feelings become words and words link one to another. Communications are all important now. Talks and discussions will arise as it is becoming obvious that many issues require settlement or revision.
Number 6 in this position means -
Circumstances relating to the question or the situation are a holding pattern -- they are repetitive and ongoing. Conditions are secure, but there are also significant limitations.
2. The Challenge: 12 Oc (Dog)
Cooperation is a failure. There are problems having to do with emotional maturity. Relationships with authority figures are strained.
Number 12 in this position means -
Centering or focus is still lacking. Conditions demand a broad-minded, almost universal response.
3. The Outcome: 13 Kan (Lizard)
There is success in putting on a performance. Acting on your bodily urges may also be part of the solution. There is a need to follow your destiny. You are no longer part of the crowd, you are alone, a unique individual. Take a chance. Dance. Don't miss a trick.
Number 13 in this position means -
Things are at a state of completion, or about to be completed. The end of the line has been reached -- but there is potential for good luck. Last minute adjustments will be made. In general, conditions are unique, complex, well-advanced, and comprehensible. The outcome is final.
verycool
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wow, thanks pssststarwars, that is a great find, and validation from what I am reading..:-)
Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your
feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!'
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grinningAztec-Maya Divination Results

The following was generated on Thu Feb 26 23:19:23 2009 (GMT).

The Question:
I ask you if the antics of the Governments of all of the world in regard to finance do not meet the criteria of being seditious acts , I personally believe they set into motion to help bring about the One World Government ?
1. The Significator: 6 Ik (Wind)
There is nervous energy in the air. Feelings become words and words link one to another. Communications are all important now. Talks and discussions will arise as it is becoming obvious that many issues require settlement or revision.
Number 6 in this position means -
Circumstances relating to the question or the situation are a holding pattern -- they are repetitive and ongoing. Conditions are secure, but there are also significant limitations.
2. The Challenge: 12 Oc (Dog)
Cooperation is a failure. There are problems having to do with emotional maturity. Relationships with authority figures are strained.
Number 12 in this position means -
Centering or focus is still lacking. Conditions demand a broad-minded, almost universal response.
3. The Outcome: 13 Kan (Lizard)
There is success in putting on a performance. Acting on your bodily urges may also be part of the solution. There is a need to follow your destiny. You are no longer part of the crowd, you are alone, a unique individual. Take a chance. Dance. Don't miss a trick.
Number 13 in this position means -
Things are at a state of completion, or about to be completed. The end of the line has been reached -- but there is potential for good luck. Last minute adjustments will be made. In general, conditions are unique, complex, well-advanced, and comprehensible. The outcome is final.
verycool
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Let it be Fun and Exciting is in fact our command to let this good and right thing be so.
It is done.
Amen!
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OP, can you explain more
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darn, you guys are a tough crowd.

Should I have mentioned boobs and beer?


Agreed a tough crowd - LifesReflections , I am no astrologer but I like some astro - Celestial Timings is free this month - very good astro - link is at my thread , if you are interested.

Thread: Celestial Timing for March - Free


 Quoting: Dances


I went to your post and loved the inspiring words , thanks-a-million Dances..
Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your
feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!'
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from what I gather, { I am only a student of Astrology}, I gather that the countries to watch closely are :

CHAPTER XXVIII.
THE PARTS OF THE WORLD AFFECTED BY THE SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC.
Pisces.
Countries.-Portugal, Calabria, Galicia, Normandy, Nubia, Sahara desert.
Towns and Cities.-Alexandria, Ratisbon, Worms, Seville, Compostella, Bournemouth, Farnham, Tiverton, Christchurch, Cowes, Regensburg,Grimsby, Southport, Lancaster, King’s Lynn, Preston
______________________________________________________
A traitorous act, or many traitor acts coupled with pestilence will cause serious troubles, from what I gather..
Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your
feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!'
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Thank you! Any more?
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I'm not as deep into Astrology as some of you. I've just learned to put together my chart. I understand you have a book on the effects of nations that are influenced by comets, but what does it all mean? Pisces (I'm on:) and you list what's below. What does this mean?

THE PARTS OF THE WORLD AFFECTED BY THE SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC.
Pisces.
Countries.-Portugal, Calabria, Galicia, Normandy, Nubia, Sahara
desert.
Towns and Cities.-Alexandria, Ratisbon, Worms, Seville, Compostella,
Bournemouth, Farnham, Tiverton, Christchurch, Cowes, Regensburg,
Grimsby, Southport, Lancaster, King’s Lynn, Preston
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I'm not as deep into Astrology as some of you. I've just learned to put together my chart. I understand you have a book on the effects of nations that are influenced by comets, but what does it all mean? Pisces (I'm on:) and you list what's below. What does this mean?

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free e-book at link
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Raphaels Mundane Astrology
OR
THE EFFECTS OF THE PLANETS AND SIGNS UPON THE NATIONS AND
COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.


“The hour arrived, and it became
a wandering mass of shapeless flame-
A pathless comet, and a curse,
The menace of the universe.”
Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your
feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!'
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darn, you guys are a tough crowd.

Should I have mentioned boobs and beer?
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Very funny!
Appreciate the posting very much.I often wondered the influeces of comets as they are not that common.Have never read anything about them before.Thank you again OP! bump
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darn, you guys are a tough crowd.

Should I have mentioned boobs and beer?

Very funny!
Appreciate the posting very much.I often wondered the influeces of comets as they are not that common.Have never read anything about them before.Thank you again OP! bump
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you are welcome Markass, I found the little book back around 1985 or so and have thumbed through it from time to time, but in this day and age it just felt " spot on", as the Brits say.. :-)
Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your
feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!'
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Bible Enthusiast , Astrologers and the Average Joe please take note

Quote: from C2C AM

A few nights ago on C2C AM Linda Moulton Howe in her first report noted that unprecedented bat deaths have been seen in Northeastern states of America. Hundreds of thousands of hibernating bats have become susceptible to a fungus. Biologist DeeAnn Reeder, Ph.D. told Linda that insect populations could grow out of control with the bat die-offs.

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In light of her story about the bats and the massive die-offs that will allow insect populations to explode !! Is this not the beginning of the Pestilence that we have all heard whispered from time to time?

Truly, DOOM Cometh !!!


In Common signs sedition and pestilence. ( both becoming very evident )



COMET LULIN is the topic of discussion. I have the little blue book called, “ Raphael’s Mundane Astrology”.
In the book he gives the effects upon nations [ in his words], that are influenced by comets.

I have attached the chapters and verses that apply, it is note worthy that on page 69 , quote: serious troubles when in the West. and in Common signs sedition and pestilence.

I ask you if the antics of the Governments of all of the world in regard to finance do not meet the criteria of being seditious acts , I personally believe they set into motion to help bring about the One World Government ?





RAPHAEL’S MUNDANE ASTROLOGY
OR
THE EFFECTS OF THE PLANETS AND SIGNS UPON THE NATIONS AND
COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.


CHAPTER XXVII.
COMETS.
“The hour arrived, and it became
a wandering mass of shapeless flame-
A pathless comet, and a curse,
The menace of the universe.”

THE influence of comets on the affairs of the world is a fact which has
been handed down from remote generations,
and it has been found that, at the times when large comets made
their appearances, great calamities have fallen upon the world in the
shape of violent earthquakes, pestilences and famine. For instance,
with respect to the great comet of Halley, whose return occurred in the
present year, 1910, it was found that from about two years previous to
its approach earthquakes and electrical storms were frequent.
According to the Astrologer Cardan, the rising or first appearance of
these phenomena should be considered, whether presenting
69
themselves at the time of eclipses or at any other time. They incite
heated and turbulent dispositions in the atmosphere and in the
conditions of men. It is said that the comet first appearing in the East
signifies the rising of some eminent law-giver ; in the midheaven, of
some eminent king ; but generally serious troubles when in the West.In Cardinal signs they denote the death of great men, in Fixed signs
foreign wars and invasion, and in Common signs sedition and
pestilence
. Their position in regard to the twelve houses should also be
considered, as they seriously affect the matters and things ruled over
by such houses. Thus in the ninth house, scandal or detriment to
religion, in the tenth or twelfth, pestilence or scarcity of corn ; in the
eighth house, many sudden and terrible deaths.
The part of the Zodiac in which they first appear should also be noted ;
for the countries ruled over by such signs will suffer many serious
troubles.
We are also told by great writers that “comets and fiery swords and
such like signs are wont to be fore-runners of great changes in the
world.” History records the fact that a comet in the form of a sword
hung over Jerusalem for a whole year, previous to the destruction of that city by
the Romans. An illustration in later days is recorded in the case of the
late Russo-Japanese war; for one of the comets of 1903 was
discovered and appeared in the sign Aquarius; and we are informed by
an old author on Astrology that comets appearing in the sign Aquarius
presignify war and bloodshed, and that the events presignified usually
became apparent when the Sun arrives at the degree influenced by the
appearance of the comet; and it is remarkable to note that the RussoJapanese
war broke out within a week of the time when the Sun
passed this particular degree in the following February.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
CHAPTER XXVIII.
THE PARTS OF THE WORLD AFFECTED BY THE SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC.
Pisces.
Countries.-Portugal, Calabria, Galicia, Normandy, Nubia, Sahara
desert.
Towns and Cities.-Alexandria, Ratisbon, Worms, Seville, Compostella,
Bournemouth, Farnham, Tiverton, Christchurch, Cowes, Regensburg,
Grimsby, Southport, Lancaster, King’s Lynn, Preston
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question to astrologers.
does the down grading of pluto to a dwarf planet have any effect on your readings?

if not do you include other dwarf planets (some of which are larger than pluto) in your readings
these include haumea, makemake, eris,ceres, sedna, ixion, huya, varuna, quaoar, vesta , pallas, hygeia
etc etc etc...

Or do you just ignore them and thier effects?
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question to astrologers.
does the down grading of pluto to a dwarf planet have any effect on your readings?

if not do you include other dwarf planets (some of which are larger than pluto) in your readings
these include haumea, makemake, eris,ceres, sedna, ixion, huya, varuna, quaoar, vesta , pallas, hygeia
etc etc etc...

Or do you just ignore them and thier effects?
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words of man have little effect or rather no effect on the Planets, they can demote Pluto all they want, in my studies anyway, I see relevance so to TPTB, they can kiss my grits, it still has relevance weather they officially acknowledge it or not.

or so me thinks.. anyone else have a say ????
Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your
feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!'
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question to astrologers.
does the down grading of pluto to a dwarf planet have any effect on your readings?

if not do you include other dwarf planets (some of which are larger than pluto) in your readings
these include haumea, makemake, eris,ceres, sedna, ixion, huya, varuna, quaoar, vesta , pallas, hygeia
etc etc etc...

Or do you just ignore them and thier effects?


words of man have little effect or rather no effect on the Planets, they can demote Pluto all they want, in my studies anyway, I see relevance so to TPTB, they can kiss my grits, it still has relevance weather they officially acknowledge it or not.

or so me thinks.. anyone else have a say ????
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fair enough but then why not include other objects that are nearly as big or even bigger than pluto? Also many of these dwarf planets have much less eccentric orbits than pluto making them more "normal".
Why dont they count?
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fair enough but then why not include other objects that are nearly as big or even bigger than pluto? Also many of these dwarf planets have much less eccentric orbits than pluto making them more "normal".
Why dont they count?
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lol, well OP can ignore my inconvinient question. I just started to look myself. Interestingly ceres has been recognozed in astrology for a long time (obviously not by OP)
to quote wiki
Ceres () is the smallest identified dwarf planet in the Solar System. It was discovered on January 1, 1801, by Giuseppe Piazzi, and is named after the Roman goddess Ceres, the goddess of growing plants, the harvest, and of motherly love. It was thought to be the first asteroid discovered and is the largest asteroid of all, taking up about 1/3 of the entire mass of the asteroid belt.

There is also a great discussion going about what Ceres should rule in astrology. Some western astrologers hope that within a few years, astrological rulerships will be changed in order to include Ceres

This discussion I guess will ultimatley have to include all the newly discovered trans neputune objects such as the dwarf planets I mentioned. Of course given that they already outnumber the current planets and more are bound to be found it is likely I pressume to completely change astrology.

Also plutos status really should be changed. When it was incoporated into astrology it was thought to be 20x more massive than it actualy is. In fact it has a mass one fith of the moons!
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weird, haven't read the whole thing but this hit me..

The hour arrived, and it became
a wandering mass of shapeless flame-
A pathless comet, and a curse,
The menace of the universe.”
somewhere i know i saw some astronmer said lulin seems to have come from nowhere and is going nowhere(that they know of). now that fits right off the bat, i'm intrigued...
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this will be taken with a grain of salt, understandably..but i know this is week 69. and i see 69 mentioned, i take it seriously. we are very small, yet we are involved..i just appreciate to see others who are seeing. this comet thing is very much something. and there are other planetary things now as well. it is very wonderful to see such things.
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fair enough but then why not include other objects that are nearly as big or even bigger than pluto? Also many of these dwarf planets have much less eccentric orbits than pluto making them more "normal".
Why dont they count?


lol, well OP can ignore my inconvinient question. I just started to look myself. Interestingly ceres has been recognozed in astrology for a long time (obviously not by OP)
to quote wiki
Ceres () is the smallest identified dwarf planet in the Solar System. It was discovered on January 1, 1801, by Giuseppe Piazzi, and is named after the Roman goddess Ceres, the goddess of growing plants, the harvest, and of motherly love. It was thought to be the first asteroid discovered and is the largest asteroid of all, taking up about 1/3 of the entire mass of the asteroid belt.

There is also a great discussion going about what Ceres should rule in astrology. Some western astrologers hope that within a few years, astrological rulerships will be changed in order to include Ceres

This discussion I guess will ultimatley have to include all the newly discovered trans neputune objects such as the dwarf planets I mentioned. Of course given that they already outnumber the current planets and more are bound to be found it is likely I pressume to completely change astrology.

Also plutos status really should be changed. When it was incoporated into astrology it was thought to be 20x more massive than it actualy is. In fact it has a mass one fith of the moons!
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Dude, I have a life,

I use both the Uranian Planets, Transpluto, Lillith, The TransNeptunian planets IE:
The following keywords are from Uranian astrologer Arlene Kramer:
1. Cupido - getting together, all groups: family, marriage, society, organizations, corporations, collections, art.
2. Hades - all that is unpleasant, useless, antique, or deeply buried; the occult.
3. Zeus - controlled, directed energy, machines; creativity; leadership, all things military, combustion engines, compulsion, drive. {
4. Kronos - superiority; the highest quality attainable; the ultimate authority; standard of excellence; undisputed expert.
5. Apollon - the multiplier: expansion and spreading; growth and increase, science, commerce, trade, industry, peaceful efforts
6. Admetos - the brick wall: steadfast, stable, immovable; shrinking: narrow down to a sharp focus, specialization, endurance
7. Vulkanus - all that is mighty and powerful, strength, intensity. }
8. Poseidon - spirituality, truth, ideation, enlightenment, illumination, wisdom and culture.
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I use fixed stars IE:
The four key stars in the heavens, also called archangel stars.
Michael (Aldebaran) watcher of the East.
Gabriel (Fomalhaut) watcher of the South.
Raphael (The Healing Archangel (Regulus) Watcher of the North.
Oriel (Antares) Watcher of the West.

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I use :
Mansions of the Moon - Astrology Encyclopedia
Definition of Mansions of the Moon
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A series of 28 divisions of the Moon's travel through one complete circuit of 360 degrees, each Mansion representing one day's average travel of the Moon (12° 51' 25.2", or roughly 13 degrees), beginning apparently at the point of the Spring Equinox, or 0° Aries. In the Hindu system they are called Asterisms, and are measured from the beginning of the Hindu Zodiac.

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I Use:

The True Black Moon Lilith

BLACK MOON IN SIGN : ARIES
Due to the impulsiveness and the spontaneity inherent to the sign, we find here violence. In Aries, Lilith speaks about past violent experiences. The native may be - today - scared or interested by
blood and weapons. Aries means: action - impulse - creative surge.
With Lilith we have a problem bound to "begin something". To start or
not to start, that is the dilemma. Craving for independence and
liberty is part of the evolution and includes awareness.

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Dang, I am sorry I was not at your beck and call...
Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank
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feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!'
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OP, can you explain more


from what I gather, { I am only a student of Astrology}, I gather that the countries to watch closely are :

CHAPTER XXVIII.
THE PARTS OF THE WORLD AFFECTED BY THE SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC.
Pisces.
Countries.-Portugal, Calabria, Galicia, Normandy, Nubia, Sahara desert.
Towns and Cities.-Alexandria, Ratisbon, Worms, Seville, Compostella, Bournemouth, Farnham, Tiverton, Christchurch, Cowes, Regensburg,Grimsby, Southport, Lancaster, King’s Lynn, Preston
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A traitorous act, or many traitor acts coupled with pestilence will cause serious troubles, from what I gather..
 Quoting: LifesReflections*

A traitorous act, or many traitor acts coupled with pestilence will cause serious troubles, from what I gather..

In Common signs sedition and pestilence.


COMET LULIN is the topic of discussion. I have the little blue book called, “ Raphael’s Mundane Astrology”.
In the book he gives the effects upon nations [ in his words], that are influenced by comets.

I have attached the chapters and verses that apply, it is note worthy that on page 69 , quote: serious troubles when in the West.
and in Common signs sedition and pestilence.

I ask you if the antics of the Governments of all of the world in regard to finance do not meet the criteria of being seditious acts , I personally believe they set into motion to help bring about the One World Government ?
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We were warned by the Harbinger Comet called COMET LULIN way back in 2009.
Yes, you heard about this doom here, first. So to answer the question, does any of the doom we predict come true, the answer must be yes..
Success, like happiness, cannot be pursued. It must ensue. And it only does so as the unintended side effect of one's personal dedication to a cause greater than oneself.Victor Frank
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Let Go and Let God... Live your life in such a way that when your
feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh crap....she's awake!!'
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Astrologers, gather round.

COMET LULIN is the topic of discussion. I have the little blue book called, “ Raphael’s Mundane Astrology”.
In the book he gives the effects upon nations [ in his words], that are influenced by comets.

I have attached the chapters and verses that apply, it is note worthy that on page 69 , quote: serious troubles when in the West.
and in Common signs sedition and pestilence.

I ask you if the antics of the Governments of all of the world in regard to finance do not meet the criteria of being seditious acts , I personally believe they set into motion to help bring about the One World Government ?





RAPHAEL’S MUNDANE ASTROLOGY
OR
THE EFFECTS OF THE PLANETS AND SIGNS UPON THE NATIONS AND
COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.


CHAPTER XXVII.
COMETS.
“The hour arrived, and it became
a wandering mass of shapeless flame-
A pathless comet, and a curse,
The menace of the universe.”

THE influence of comets on the affairs of the world is a fact which has
been handed down from remote generations,
and it has been found that, at the times when large comets made
their appearances, great calamities have fallen upon the world in the
shape of violent earthquakes, pestilences and famine. For instance,
with respect to the great comet of Halley, whose return occurred in the
present year, 1910, it was found that from about two years previous to
its approach earthquakes and electrical storms were frequent.
According to the Astrologer Cardan, the rising or first appearance of
these phenomena should be considered, whether presenting
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themselves at the time of eclipses or at any other time. They incite
heated and turbulent dispositions in the atmosphere and in the
conditions of men. It is said that the comet first appearing in the East
signifies the rising of some eminent law-giver ; in the midheaven, of
some eminent king ; but generally serious troubles when in the West.
In Cardinal signs they denote the death of great men, in Fixed signs
foreign wars and invasion, and in Common signs sedition and
pestilence. Their position in regard to the twelve houses should also be
considered, as they seriously affect the matters and things ruled over
by such houses. Thus in the ninth house, scandal or detriment to
religion, in the tenth or twelfth, pestilence or scarcity of corn ; in the
eighth house, many sudden and terrible deaths.
The part of the Zodiac in which they first appear should also be noted ;
for the countries ruled over by such signs will suffer many serious
troubles.
We are also told by great writers that “comets and fiery swords and
such like signs are wont to be fore-runners of great changes in the
world.” History records the fact that a comet in the form of a sword
hung over Jerusalem for a whole year, previous to the destruction of that city by
the Romans. An illustration in later days is recorded in the case of the
late Russo-Japanese war; for one of the comets of 1903 was
discovered and appeared in the sign Aquarius; and we are informed by
an old author on Astrology that comets appearing in the sign Aquarius
presignify war and bloodshed, and that the events presignified usually
became apparent when the Sun arrives at the degree influenced by the
appearance of the comet; and it is remarkable to note that the RussoJapanese
war broke out within a week of the time when the Sun
passed this particular degree in the following February.

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CHAPTER XXVIII.
THE PARTS OF THE WORLD AFFECTED BY THE SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC.
Pisces.
Countries.-Portugal, Calabria, Galicia, Normandy, Nubia, Sahara
desert.
Towns and Cities.-Alexandria, Ratisbon, Worms, Seville, Compostella,
Bournemouth, Farnham, Tiverton, Christchurch, Cowes, Regensburg,
Grimsby, Southport, Lancaster, King’s Lynn, Preston
 Quoting: LifesReflections*


The February 2011 Christchurch earthquake was a powerful natural event that severely damaged New Zealand's second-largest city, killing 185 people

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look at all of the deposed world leaders, the finiancial collapse going on all around the globe..

perhaps there is something to reading the Heavens





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