Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 3,271 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,431,813
Pageviews Today: 2,255,015Threads Today: 708Posts Today: 15,329
05:21 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Communism & Capitalism are the same thing

 
Are They?
User ID: 610970
Australia
03/02/2009 03:45 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
[link to www.savethemales.ca]


Americans can't expect to avoid destruction as long as they continue to embrace Communism in all its myriad disguises.

Symptomatic of the problem is a new four hr. 17 min biopic of Soviet Comintern agent and terrorist Che Guevara. Rather than make movies about genuine American heroes, Hollywood is celebrating people dedicated to the destruction of Western Civilization.

Movie critic Mick LaSalle of the San Francisco Chronicle cannot understand why Director Steven Soderbergh made the movie:

"If Soderbergh made as idol-worshiping an epic about George Washington or Abraham Lincoln - actual heroes with tangible, positive legacies - people would gag at the naive treatment.. Instead of making the case for Guevara as a hero, Soderbergh just assumes we all agree. The movie is the communist guerrilla version of the Stations of the Cross, in which we see Guevara at various stages, enduring various hardships. The invitation is not to think but to admire, and maybe to worship."

This is not the first time Hollywood has presented this ruthless killer as a saint. In 1969, Omar Sharif played "the most controversial rebel of our time" with Jack Palance as Castro. Then, there was "The Motorcycle Diaries" in 2004 and at least a half-dozen made-for-TV films.

Communists always portray their demented drive for world domination in terms of serving the people. Surprisingly, many suckers swallow this bait. But, why do these dupes include the US corporate media establishment?

WHY THE MEDIA (AND EDUCATION) SOFT PEDDLE COMMUNISM

The US mass media (and most corporations) are controlled by the central banking cartel, i.e. the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Rockefellers etc. These are the same people who sponsored Communism.

The guiding principle behind world events is their plan to translate their monopoly over government credit into a world monopoly of power, business, culture and religion.

potkettle.jpgThese bankers use a Hegelian dialectic to achieve their end. They created both Capitalism and Communism as thesis and antithesis. Their aim is a synthesis, combining the political and cultural tyranny of Communism with the appearance of Capitalist free markets. China or even Cuba may be the end model for the New World Order.

In 1953, Ford Foundation President, H. Rowan Gaither told Congressional Investigator Norman Dodd that his instructions were to use "our grant-making power so to alter our life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."

This is why the Communist Party term "political correctness" has become part of our lexicon. Why the elite media and foundations promote feminism, homosexuality, pornography and promiscuity to destabilize society. Why they sponsor "diversity" to undermine American identity. Why the education system is devoted to Leftist indoctrination; and conservatives have been driven out. Why the culture industries are dedicated to sex, violence, alienation, deviance and the occult. We'll never know what we have missed in terms of cultural works that boost our sense of who we are and where we should be going.

Eustace Mullins relates this story: Early in his career, a NY publisher (who are all banker controlled) told his agent that it's too bad Mullins had decided to go against them. Look at the success they arranged for such "high school" talents as Hemingway, Steinbeck and
Faulkner. Unfortunately, Mullins would be consigned to the wilderness.

Rupert Murdoch, whose media operations are subsidized by the Rothschilds, said last week, "We are in the midst of a phase of history in which nations will be redefined and their futures fundamentally altered."

Such anecdotes confirm that we are being dispossessed and prepared for servitude. Our culture, most of our assumptions about the world, are controlled by the central bankers.


GUEVARA, CASTRO AND THE CUBAN REVOLUTION

Fidel Castro came to power in Cuba only because of the covert help of New World orderlies in the US State Dept. and mass media. They cut off arm sales to Batista while at the same time allowing Castro to be supplied, partly by Russian submarines. This told the Cuban military which way the wind was blowing and they quietly defected.

This is the conclusion of Nataniel Weyl in "Red Star Over Cuba" (1962, p.152) Weyl was a Communist in the 1930's and knew the top leaders of the Cuban Communist Party. He actually worked for the central bankers at one time, as Latin American research chief for the Federal Reserve System. He is one of many Jews who recognized Communism as a dangerous ruse and devoted his life to exposing Comintern subversion in Latin America.

Weyl says that both Ernesto Guevera and Fidel Castro were cultivated and trained as Soviet agents as teenagers. Guevara, an Argentine, was liaison between the Soviet espionage network and the Castro forces who masqueraded as an indigenous force. In fact, they were largely bankrolled and supplied by the Soviet Union.

"Fidel's secret weapon was money---incredible millions of dollars, with which he bought "victories." He bought entired regiments from Batista's officers and, on one occasion, purchased for $650,000 cash an entired armored train, with tanks, guns, ammunition, jeeps and 500 men." (p.141)

"The Cuban forces themselves never won a military victory," US Ambassador Earl Smith later testified. The basic reason for the defeat of Batista's army was that covert US intervention shattered their morale.(152)

Rothschild-dominated Freemasonry was probably also a factor. Communism is a Masonic order, and both Castro and Guevara were masons. (Other Freemasons include Stalin, Trotsky, Lenin and most Presidents incl. Barrack Obama. ) Freemasonry is big in Cuba: there is a 15- story Grand Lodge of Cuba HQ in Havana.

According to Humberto Fantova's "Che! Hollywood's Favorite Tyrant", Guevara was complicit in the execution of 10,000 Cubans after the revolution: He was "a bloodthirsty executioner, a military bumbler, a coward, and a hypocrite...it's no exaggeration to state that Che... was the godfather of modern terrorism. And yet Che's followers naively swallow Castro's historical revisionism. They are classic "useful idiots." the name Stalin gave to foolish Westerners who parroted his lies..."

Nat Hentoff met Che at the United Nations and asked "this idealist" -- "Can you conceive -- however far into the future -- a time when there will be free elections in Cuba?"

"Not waiting for his interpreter, Guevara broke into laughter at my naively ignorant question. He made it clear that I had no understanding of a true people's revolution, firmly guided by Maximum Leader Castro."

If the Cuban Communists were sponsored by the central bankers, how do we account for the CIA's Bay of Pigs invasion? This failure was probably designed to enhance Castro's image and reinforce the Hegelian dialectic. If the US could go to Vietnam "for the sake of democracy," it certainty could have invaded Cuba officially. The debacle opened the door for the missile crisis and the assassination of Kennedy, both part of the agenda.

How do we account for the CIA's killing of Guevara? He had served his purpose and was worth more dead than alive.

CONCLUSION

The Rothschilds and Rockefellers must be laughing up their sleeves at the young rebels who embrace Che Guevera as a symbol of social justice and equality. In fact, Communism is the mirror image of Western imperialism, benefiting the same people.

Communism is devoted to the concentration of all wealth in the hands of the central bankers. In theory, the wealth is "public" but in fact, the bankers own and control the State.

Guevara helped establish a Communist regime that may be a harbinger for Obama's America. Yes, the people are all equal -- dirt poor. Yes, they get free education and health care but education is indoctrination and people cannot toil for nothing if they are sick. Their MD's get $20 a month. The people are paid in idealistic platitudes.

Essentially, you have a prosperous island (oil, nickel, tobacco, coffee) with a large labor force that works for a pittance. All the wealth seems to flow to the Communist nomenklatura and their sponsors. Secret police are everywhere and no one can say a word against the regime.

This is where we are heading when we tolerate a government full of New World Orderlies (Communists) and mass media that venerate their ruthless agents. To them we are "useless eaters." Throughout history the privileges the masses have enjoyed have been the exception, not the rule. We are gradually reverting to the norm.

Obama's "Change" is code for the Communist NWO. This is what is meant by "Progressive." Leftists who want to "change the world" are not told it is going to be much worse. They are destroying the society that gave them freedom and prosperity; they are "change agents" for poverty and dictatorship.

The fact that no one asks where the borrowed trillions are coming from proves that our society is complicit in its own destruction. You see. the government doesn't need to borrow from the Rothschilds. It can create money out of thin air itself. That's all the Rothschilds do.

Never has a society embraced its own demise with such blissful indifference.
----
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 624093
United States
03/02/2009 03:47 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
Does a Free Market exist without Capitalism?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 624262
United States
03/02/2009 04:03 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
Does a Free Market exist without Capitalism?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 624093


The better question is can a free market exist in a capitalist system when as it is precluded with the hyphenated bastardizations we know it as IE: crony-cap, lawyer-cap, finance-cap.

The only true free market is the one known as the black market.

BTW, good article OP.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 622599
Mexico
03/02/2009 04:55 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 622599
Mexico
03/02/2009 04:56 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
' The only true free market is the one known as the black market...

Very true.
Benevolent Cannibal

User ID: 624035
Canada
03/02/2009 04:57 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 622599

Honestly, that article has more holes than spongebob..not surprising, considering it comes from savethemales, one of the most ridiculous sites on the internet
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 624262
United States
03/02/2009 05:02 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.

Honestly, that article has more holes than spongebob..not surprising, considering it comes from savethemales, one of the most ridiculous sites on the internet
 Quoting: Benevolent Cannibal


Wow, terse, thought provoking and thorough analysis there.

You've convinced me.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 615553
Australia
03/02/2009 05:02 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.

Honestly, that article has more holes than spongebob..not surprising, considering it comes from savethemales, one of the most ridiculous sites on the internet
 Quoting: Benevolent Cannibal


I thought it was a parody. hf
Benevolent Cannibal

User ID: 624035
Canada
03/02/2009 05:03 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.

Honestly, that article has more holes than spongebob..not surprising, considering it comes from savethemales, one of the most ridiculous sites on the internet


Wow, terse, thought provoking and thorough analysis there.

You've convinced me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 624262


hahaha..glad I could help tomato
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 622599
Mexico
03/02/2009 05:05 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.

Honestly, that article has more holes than spongebob..not surprising, considering it comes from savethemales, one of the most ridiculous sites on the internet


Wow, terse, thought provoking and thorough analysis there.

You've convinced me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 624262


If you need convincing, you're not too bright.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 610970
Australia
03/02/2009 05:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.

Honestly, that article has more holes than spongebob..not surprising, considering it comes from savethemales, one of the most ridiculous sites on the internet
 Quoting: Benevolent Cannibal


Actually, I think Henry raises some issues worthy of consideration.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 624262
United States
03/02/2009 05:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.

Honestly, that article has more holes than spongebob..not surprising, considering it comes from savethemales, one of the most ridiculous sites on the internet


Wow, terse, thought provoking and thorough analysis there.

You've convinced me.


If you need convincing, you're not too bright.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 622599


Such a clever and witty rejoinder!

You get a ribbon, it says "Participated".
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 622599
Mexico
03/02/2009 05:22 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.

Honestly, that article has more holes than spongebob..not surprising, considering it comes from savethemales, one of the most ridiculous sites on the internet


Wow, terse, thought provoking and thorough analysis there.

You've convinced me.


If you need convincing, you're not too bright.


Such a clever and witty rejoinder!

You get a ribbon, it says "Participated".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 624262


Yes you are so clever and convincing. Carry on...

Castro never won a battle, of course not,,,

Absolutely absurd!
The Jurist

User ID: 622540
United States
03/02/2009 10:50 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
Boy, you people are not too bright. Maybe you watch too much television. chuckle

Below are the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto as written by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels in the year 1848. Respectively in comparison, the American adopted parallel, i.e. How the Plank is achieved and is in place pursuant to law. One other thing you should understand: Marx stated in the Communist Manifesto that these planks are to test whether or not a people is Communist. If they are all in force and effect— A PEOPLE IS COMMUNIST!

UPPER CASE - PLANK’S DESCRIPTION - the American parallel after.

1. ABOLITION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY AND APPLICATION OF ALL RENT TO PUBLIC PURPOSE. The Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes, national parks, lands, etc. Also the Bureau of Land Management.

2. A HEAVY PROGRESSIVE OR GRADUATED INCOME TAX. Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; Income Tax and various State Taxes. We have been conditioned to call it “paying your fair share.”

3. ABOLITION OF RIGHT TO INHERITANCE. We call it Federal & State estate Taxes (1916), via the Federal Internal Revenue Code; or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. CONFISCATION OF THE PROPERTY OF ALL EMIGRANTS AND REBELS. We call in government seizures, tax liens, Public “law” 99-570 (1986); Executive Order 11490, sections 1205 and 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of “terrorists” and those who speak out or write against the “government” (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without proper due process. This all orchestrated through the Fourteenth Amendment.

5. CENTRALIZATION OF CREDIT IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE, BY MEANS OF A NATIONAL BANK WITH STATE CAPITAL AND AN EXCLUSIVE MONOPOLY. We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed System, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).

6. CENTRALIZATION OF COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPORTATION IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE. We call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive Orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver’s licenses and Department of Transportation regulations. Also Amtrak: Established May 1st - May Day (world socialist/commie day).

7. EXTENSION OF FACTORIES AND INSTRUMENTS OF PRODUCTION OWNED BY THE STATE, THE BRINGING INTO CULTIVATION OF WASTE LANDS, AND THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE SOIL GENERALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH A COMMON PLAN. We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor (OSHA), Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the Internal Revenue Service control of business through corporate regulations. Government in the Stock Market.

8. ALL TO LABOR. ESTABLISHMENT OF INDUSTRIAL ARMIES, ESPECIALLY FOR AGRICULTURE. We call it the Social Security Administration and the Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two income family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920’s, the 19th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive Order 11000.

9. COMBINATION OF AGRICULTURE WITH MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES; GRADUAL ABOLITION BETWEEN TOWN AND COUNTRY; MORE EQUABLE DISTRIBUTION OF POPULATION. We call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949, zoning (Title 17 USC 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive Orders 11647 and 11731 (ten regions) and Public “Law” 89-136; the main plank for reduction of town and country; the Fourteenth Amendment accomplished this. Non-city land is subject to Property Tax.

10. FREE EDUCATION FOR CHILDREN IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. ABOLITION OF CHILDREN’S FACTORY LABOR IN PRESENT FORM. COMBINATION OF EDUCATION WITH INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION, ETC. People are being taxed to support what we call ‘public’ schools, which train the young to work for the perpetual communal debt system that enriches the World Bank. Also, we call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based “Education”.
`
(Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)...

Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.

~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler

:damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds.
The Jurist

User ID: 622540
United States
03/02/2009 10:58 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
So, what is your nationality?

If you are a United States citizen and said German (eg), you might be a Communist.

So, what is the name of your country?

If you said the United States of America and not Iowa (eg), you might be a Communist.

"The Communists are further reproached with desiring to abolish countries and nationality." --COMMUNIST MANIFESTO, 1848

Has something been stripped from your mind?
Okay, the Communist part is done. Here is the next step:

Title 8 USC § 1101(a)(40). Definitions. The term “world communism” means a revolutionary movement, the purpose of which is to establish eventually a Communist totalitarian dictatorship in any or all the countries of the world through the medium of an internationally coordinated Communist political movement.
[This is United States Law... You may have heard it referred to as New World Order.]
`
(Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)...

Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.

~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler

:damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds.
The Jurist

User ID: 622540
United States
03/02/2009 11:01 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.

Honestly, that article has more holes than spongebob..not surprising, considering it comes from savethemales, one of the most ridiculous sites on the internet
 Quoting: Benevolent Cannibal


`bsmeter2

sockpuppetOh no, not the troll/shill guy. Grow a brain yet, Cannibal?
Better watch it, your true colors are showing!

`
(Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)...

Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.

~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me
~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler

:damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds.
Benevolent Cannibal

User ID: 624035
Canada
03/02/2009 01:03 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.

Honestly, that article has more holes than spongebob..not surprising, considering it comes from savethemales, one of the most ridiculous sites on the internet

`bsmeter2

sockpuppetOh no, not the troll/shill guy. Grow a brain yet, Cannibal?
Better watch it, your true colors are showing!

 Quoting: The Jurist


What colours would that be? You may believe whatever you like, but that article is nothing but complete rubbish..if that makes me a shill in your brilliant eyes oh great one, so be it
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440474
Australia
03/02/2009 05:49 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
BTW OP, if you believe that article you are a nutcase.

Honestly, that article has more holes than spongebob..not surprising, considering it comes from savethemales, one of the most ridiculous sites on the internet

`bsmeter2

sockpuppetOh no, not the troll/shill guy. Grow a brain yet, Cannibal?
Better watch it, your true colors are showing!



What colours would that be? You may believe whatever you like, but that article is nothing but complete rubbish..if that makes me a shill in your brilliant eyes oh great one, so be it
 Quoting: Benevolent Cannibal

If you can't see the similarities then you are blind.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 440474
Australia
03/02/2009 05:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
bump for interest
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 512476
United States
03/02/2009 05:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Communism & Capitalism are the same thing
I have Degrees in Economics and I tire of those misusing the words and ideas of Economic Systems.

Yes, there are greater similarities between Capitolism and Communism,,,,and it ends up being very much the same thing,,,especially when mishandled.


Also - a highly misused word is Socialism - which when correct applied is the fairest system of all;


From: [link to en.wikipedia.org]


Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society, and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society. Therefore socialists advocate the creation of a society in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly based on the amount of work expended in production, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.

News