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I Just Started Watching UFO Hunters: These Guys Are Shills!

 
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Ok so I've watched the whole first season now. For a group of "UFO HUNTERS" they sure don't do much hunting. All they seem to do is debunk stuff, while at the same time trying to tell the audience that they're actually making progress in a case.

Last night I watched the episode "The NASA Files" in which they showed the Martyn Stubbs footage of STS-75 (when the satellite tether broke off).

For those who don't know, Martyn Stubbs was a tv station operator in BC, Canada. In the mid 90's he took a bunch of equipment home and started tapping into NASA's video feed from space. He recorded over 5 years of space flights and space walks.

UFO Magazine was who he contacted about the footage. Yes, Bill Birnes (from UFO Hunters) own magazine was the producer of the film "The Secret NASA Transmissions: The Smoking Gun" which was a documentary about Stubbs, how he got the footage, and of course showed the footage.

The guys from UFO Magazine took Stubb's video to the very best video experts in the world, and they all said that the phenomena recorded was legit. Stubbs himself had over 30 years experience dealing with video, so his word was just as good as the other experts the tapes were shown to.

My main problem with UFO hunters is that they basically debunked the Martyn STubbs footage in less than a minute on UFO HUnters, despite it being Bill's own magazine that put out "The Secret NASA Transmissions" in the first place.

How they expect us to believe that all the other video experts who reviewed that footage were wrong, including Stubbs, when their 'debunker' was their lab experiment guy who says "oh, those giant ships? yeah, that just a reflection from the camera's filament on ice crystals! End of discussion."

I was shocked to say the least. UFO Hunters is disinfo, it's pathetic. And somehow they got the guys from UFO Magazine on board to be government shills. I don't know how that happened; I used to be an avid reader of UFO Magazine, and they had scruples. They were honest.

Now Bill Birnes has ZERO credibility with me, and zero with the UFO communtiy as a whole.

What do you all think of this?
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These guys are a joke. This show is an embarrasment. Even if you don't believe, UFO's are fairly interesting. This show makes the subject boring. How is that possible?
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These guys are a joke. This show is an embarrasment. Even if you don't believe, UFO's are fairly interesting. This show makes the subject boring. How is that possible?
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I know, right? When I first started watching it, I thought, "great, finally we get a good show about UFO's". Seeing as how Bill Birnes was involved, I figured it'd be awesome. Then it turned into a snore fest of disinfo.

But clearly UFO Magazine has been taken over by the government, and they got Birnes to be their main disinfo agent.

The one I dislike the most is Ted Acworth. He'll take dirt from an area that had a sighting 30 years ago and "analyze" it, then come to the conclusion that "nope, nothing happened there".

I checked their site to see if there was any way to contact them, and there is not (at least not that I can see). And no wonder, they'd be getting a million hate emails a week from real UFO researchers.
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UFO Hunters and Ghost Hunters are both Shills, They are only going to reveal 90 % of the truth and then stop, it feeds the masses and give the public a Ghost or UFO fix.


The fact is is that if they ever did find a Ghost or UFO it would come out in the maid street news, on websites everywhere including this one before it ever appeared on the SHOW. I watch Survivor man, Man vs Wild and things that do me good. no "TRAUMA (DRAMA) TELEVISION"



Ghost Hunters can lick my *&$&#%#.
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But clearly UFO Magazine has been taken over by the government, and they got Birnes to be their main disinfo agent.

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You have any evidence of that?
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Monsterquest is the same way,they never conclude anything and they leave you with the question of why is this show even on?
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all the shows are jokes

ghost hunters fake joke boring

ufo hunters ya nothing

monster whatever fake

all fake
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They are made for television, what the hell do you people expect? These shows are designed to be nothing more than hooks to get ratings which in turn pull in more viewers which pull in more advertising revenue for the station.

For entertainment value, I like these shows and honestly, I prefer debunking right away. Once you can rule out testable phenomenon then that leaves the rest to the unknown realm and that makes more sense to me. I actually hate those shows that "investigate" ghosts or UFOs and the people are running around screaming they got evidence before they actually rule it out scientifically.
"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." -Charles Darwin
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It ISN'T DISINFO. It's NO INFO. There is nothing to be found! I laugh my ass off at their constant failures. I love that show, just more pr00f that UFO's are complete bullshit.
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As I posted on another thread it's the awakening for those in denial, They represent both sides and of course the debunkler always wins other wise the cat is out of the bag, Use your God Given Birthright( Your Mind ) are you a follower or leader either way dosen't matter just do your research and stick to somone you trust, Time is up, As I come from the east unto the west I come as lightening, Find one of my Night Watchmen, ENDTIME TRUTHS!!!
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I agree, these shows are bullshit. I can't stand those ghost hunter shows. They ruin the entire study.
See ya.
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These shows are deisgned to be a SOFT disclosure to the public.

Do any of you realize that this entire scenario unfolding with the economy is DIRECTLY related to the ET and UFO subject which is REAL !

Bill Birnes from UFO hunters has direct connections to the CIA.

Trust me, I know
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They are actually better than what has been in the past. At least we don't have idiots like Ben "I'm not a scientist but I want you to believe I am!" Radford on the show making non-scientific investigations and claiming science as a badge of authority.

I've been studying abduction and UFO phenomena for 19 years - and it's not an easy study. These guys are at least making an effort to do some research and not just flat out debunking.

The lesser CIA guys stuck watching UFO community people are always noticable for being exactly what they are. Testosterone ridden suit and sunglass wearing idiots who lean over the dinner table so their wire taps can listen into your conversation with the person next to you. They are as easy to feed bullshit to as the next person you know who doesn't give a shit about the TRUTH.
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The outed Taskforce 160 aka the Night Stalkers as operating in tandem co-ordination with some of the test flights, and the WASP program.

The diamond shaped UFO's may be 'WASP II' series of vehicles.

Query: Taskforce 160
[link to www.google.com]

In the episodes I have seen from this season, I think they have been doing a fairly decent job.

Last one I saw was about Area 51.
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not to mention all of the history channel shows there all govt owned stations they want to tell you what they want to tell you thats it its bogus as fuck
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Then watch all the shows on PBS about how the poor jews were so mistreated.

PBS pure bull shit

Instead of gangland they need a show with an army of White men and women going into these "hoods" and slaughtering all that scum. The ratings would soar,plus the much needed clean up of scum.
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These shows are deisgned to be a SOFT disclosure to the public.

Do any of you realize that this entire scenario unfolding with the economy is DIRECTLY related to the ET and UFO subject which is REAL !

Bill Birnes from UFO hunters has direct connections to the CIA.

Trust me, I know
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Revealing NASI technology by a bunch of NASI Zionists, that is all!
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The outed Taskforce 160 aka the Night Stalkers as operating in tandem co-ordination with some of the test flights, and the WASP program.

The diamond shaped UFO's may be 'WASP II' series of vehicles.

Query: Taskforce 160
[link to www.google.com]

In the episodes I have seen from this season, I think they have been doing a fairly decent job.

Last one I saw was about Area 51.
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This is true. I find them credible. Ghost Hunters is a different story. They've been caught faking. It's on Youtube.
As for the people on here with predetermined outcome based on what they believe to be happening......
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Bill Birnes is paid by the CIA. UFO magazine has always been "owned" by the CIA/NSA. The purpose is not a "soft" disclosure. It is to cover up disclosure. It will feed the false flag attack predicted by Henry Kissinger by supposed UFO's over Los Angeles. Kissinger said that the public would welcome NATO troops in L.A. "if" a threat (ie., "ET") to survival occurs. Kissinger was not referring to riots or anarchy. Werhner von Braun stated that it is all a lie. First, the communists would be blamed, second terrorists, third "rogue" nations, expect asteroid scares next, and then a "false flag" alien invasion to create the one world government. Lest you have not researched your material, know that UFO Hunters is bought and paid for by the CIA/NSA, Bill Birnes, MUFON, etc., are all disinfo agents intent on confusing, confabulating, and denying the truth of "E.T' reality and what it means to earthlings. E.T. was here first, and they will not allow TPTB destroy the planet with nuclear weapons. Hence, the heavy presence of drones and a some motherships. We are under quarentine. The Federal Reserve Banking Cabal is not going to go down without a "fight". So they will start it and blame it on "ET". Trust me, Bill Birnes is not just light on his feet, but a true and present danger.
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I don't watch either show because they are on a main stream channel. Thats says "fraud" in my book everytime, so I don't waste my time with that rubbish.

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Bill Birnes is paid by the CIA. UFO magazine has always been "owned" by the CIA/NSA. The purpose is not a "soft" disclosure. It is to cover up disclosure. It will feed the false flag attack predicted by Henry Kissinger by supposed UFO's over Los Angeles. Kissinger said that the public would welcome NATO troops in L.A. "if" a threat (ie., "ET") to survival occurs. Kissinger was not referring to riots or anarchy. Werhner von Braun stated that it is all a lie. First, the communists would be blamed, second terrorists, third "rogue" nations, expect asteroid scares next, and then a "false flag" alien invasion to create the one world government. Lest you have not researched your material, know that UFO Hunters is bought and paid for by the CIA/NSA, Bill Birnes, MUFON, etc., are all disinfo agents intent on confusing, confabulating, and denying the truth of "E.T' reality and what it means to earthlings. E.T. was here first, and they will not allow TPTB destroy the planet with nuclear weapons. Hence, the heavy presence of drones and a some motherships. We are under quarentine. The Federal Reserve Banking Cabal is not going to go down without a "fight". So they will start it and blame it on "ET". Trust me, Bill Birnes is not just light on his feet, but a true and present danger.
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Your a good man, Fibber McGee!
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T'aint funny, McGee!
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UFO Hunters and Ghost Hunters are both Shills, They are only going to reveal 90 % of the truth and then stop, it feeds the masses and give the public a Ghost or UFO fix.


The fact is is that if they ever did find a Ghost or UFO it would come out in the maid street news, on websites everywhere including this one before it ever appeared on the SHOW. I watch Survivor man, Man vs Wild and things that do me good. no "TRAUMA (DRAMA) TELEVISION"



Ghost Hunters can lick my *&$&#%#.
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 Quoting: Dometheus Nash 597428

I just think that the Aera 51 show was good but for the most part the guys are a bunch of Fags. I already Know all that shit and they just repeat themselves.I want people that will give me New and Better info... You Fill Me
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I don't watch either show because they are on a main stream channel. Thats says "fraud" in my book everytime, so I don't waste my time with that rubbish.

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Those slack jawed dimwits are all thumbs and produce the most unconvincing drivel you are likely to ever find.


Absolute CRAP!

I would like to line them up and slap them all at once like the three stooges they are!
Cui Bono?
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E.T. was there and this little girl with blonde hair asked him why he has an extra testical. When all of a sudden the big bang happened!
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The show is poor. It is scripted to keep you hanging on right up to the end credits where you realize that nothing new has been elucidated. Listen to the narration closely sometime to see how it keeps the viewer distracted and forever off-target. The opener always promises new information and the end always hangs the viewer out to dry with a rhetorical conjecture or speculation. Birnes has some charisma, but that seems to be about all. The other guys seem forgettable. I really don't know what the ultimate point of the show is other than to create a temporary payroll for some guys who like being on tv.The show does a huge dis-service to serious researchers by presenting poeple who are supposed to be perceived as legit who ( at least from what the show portrays) are definitely not. It is a shame. The history channel should pull the plug on that one a.s.a.p. In their defense they did do one show about a UFO case in Texas from 1897 that was pretty good. They appeared to really take some extra steps to uncover new evidence there, but this one episode is the exception, not the rule.
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Ok so I've watched the whole first season now. For a group of "UFO HUNTERS" they sure don't do much hunting. All they seem to do is debunk stuff, while at the same time trying to tell the audience that they're actually making progress in a case.
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All was done years ago. But now with Internet people is waking up.

For example in UFO conventions there were always complete crazy guys that did things so absurd that people was believing that all was the same ridiculous thing. These crazy people were always to create that ridicule.

Several "UFO organizations" like MUFON, SETI, are working for the intelligence, not real organizations.

Today people saying that UFOs exist is not looked as crazy, but I remember just some years ago it was that way.

But we are not here to talk about UFOs. We are here to end karma. Only some months more and all these dark humans with control as goal will leave us. They tried to stop we leaving but don't understand there will be they that will leave. When chaos starts in October/November, in the chaos they will be killed. Karma is a bitch.
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everyone in UFO 'business' are shills.
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BILL is cool bro, serious.
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All I know is that I'd like to see Chris William's boobs.
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Ok so I've watched the whole first season now. For a group of "UFO HUNTERS" they sure don't do much hunting. All they seem to do is debunk stuff, while at the same time trying to tell the audience that they're actually making progress in a case.
 Quoting: confused! 464050


All was done years ago. But now with Internet people is waking up.

For example in UFO conventions there were always complete crazy guys that did things so absurd that people was believing that all was the same ridiculous thing. These crazy people were always to create that ridicule.

Several "UFO organizations" like MUFON, SETI, are working for the intelligence, not real organizations.

Today people saying that UFOs exist is not looked as crazy, but I remember just some years ago it was that way.

But we are not here to talk about UFOs. We are here to end karma. Only some months more and all these dark humans with control as goal will leave us. They tried to stop we leaving but don't understand there will be they that will leave. When chaos starts in October/November, in the chaos they will be killed. Karma is a bitch.
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Of course you never specified just which October/November chuckle

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