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You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it

 
Captain Dan
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You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
What a profound short little paragraph that
says it all!!!

"You cannot legislate the poor into
freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one
person receives without working for, another person must
work for without receiving. The government cannot give to
anybody anything that the government does not first take
from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea
that they do not have to work because the other half is
going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the
idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is
going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is
about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by
dividing it."

~~~~~ Dr. Adrian
Rogers, 1931 - 2005 ~~~~~
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03/05/2009 10:08 AM
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
Correct. When the wealthy realize that its not worth their effort to work for their money anymore, then you end up with Mexico.
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
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Mickey Logician
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+100
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
Rick Wagoner made $15 million last year.

What did he do that was so special? How is he worth that much?

He's helped to run that company into the ground, and he's begging for government money (our money). He's making that much money in a year..... taxpayer money, WELFARE! For what?

The wealth has been consolidated into the hands of a very few. Everything is being changed in favor of the rich corporatists, bankers, conglomerates, government. It's a web of criminality and fuckery.

Look at Kilo vs. the City of New London, and right away SAFETEA-LU makes perfect sense. I know you don't know what that is, but you should.

How can the government take my land and give it to private companies for their private profit? And furthermore, how is that not welfare?

You're telling me that the peice of shit corporatist who can steal my land over a nice lunch with peice of shit sell out politician, has somehow "worked" for that? That's funny.


The problem goes both ways. Rich, poor, welfare's bad. Of course I already know that neoconservatives have found some strange disconect that allows their feeble minds to believe that welfare for the poor is a terrible thing but welfare for the rich is fine, and that's cool. Just thought I'd try to interject some truth.

To pretend like the rich work....... lol. You're a comedian.
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I think the poor need some motivation. They certainly won't get it without some money. Just sayin'
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
but you can print wealth. and just don't bother to ever pay back the depth. just like what's going on now. There is an upcoming apocalypse, remember? :)
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but you can print wealth. and just don't bother to ever pay back the depth. just like what's going on now. There is an upcoming apocalypse, remember? :)
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Apocalypse is a bit strong of a word. Just 'cause the USA goes through another Great Depression doesn't mean Human Civilization implodes ;-)
Let There Be Peace
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
lol. an over simplification.

the rich don't work harder. who works harder, a CEO of a corporation or an immigrant field worker?

the "poor" know the game is stacked against them, and many "poor" say @#%$# it.

lets see- one kid was exposed to classical music and art- traveled the world, and his father has freinds in big companies and he has lots of leads.

the other, dad in jail, never been anywhere, and has no connections. not a level playing field.
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“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”

Thomas Jefferson
"A little paranoia is a dangerous thing. Drink deep or taste not the putrid nectar of doom and gloom."

(Alexander Pope quote paraphrased for GLP)
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”

Thomas Jefferson
 Quoting: Phree Non-Phixion


Jefferson would be appalled by what goes on in this country. The elites own way too much of the productive wealth in the country. Sure, it is the so-called 'capitalist line' that suggests that these people deserve multiples of millions of dollars per year, regardless of their performance. But in reality, it is the worker who actually produces.

So, in essence, your quote is correct -- but applied improperly. It is the elites who are taking from those who are willing to work. And with their plush offices, often with cable TV and such, it is arguable whether they are even actually working.

Ergo -- taking from the workers and giving to the overseer class (a.k.a. upper management) is the same as taking from those who work and giving to those who do not.
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
Could you turn it around 1 time please!

It's actually the wealthy who do not work for the money they receive.
They are the receivers, the poor are the givers.
How do you like these apples?
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”

Thomas Jefferson


Jefferson would be appalled by what goes on in this country. The elites own way too much of the productive wealth in the country. Sure, it is the so-called 'capitalist line' that suggests that these people deserve multiples of millions of dollars per year, regardless of their performance. But in reality, it is the worker who actually produces.

So, in essence, your quote is correct -- but applied improperly. It is the elites who are taking from those who are willing to work. And with their plush offices, often with cable TV and such, it is arguable whether they are even actually working.

Ergo -- taking from the workers and giving to the overseer class (a.k.a. upper management) is the same as taking from those who work and giving to those who do not.
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Exactly !
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Could you turn it around 1 time please!

It's actually the wealthy who do not work for the money they receive.
They are the receivers, the poor are the givers.
How do you like these apples?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 645216

pretty much crushed is how i like my apples thank you
.. ThE BiTcH iN mE iS A TeAsE .. ThErEfOrE I AiM TwO PlEaSe ..
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AIG Joseph Cassano walked away with $315 million plus $1 million-a-month "consulting fee.

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What did AIG do? Cure cancer, no. Destroyed the economy.
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
The less The Rich have the harder they work to get more.
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
Could you turn it around 1 time please!

It's actually the wealthy who do not work for the money they receive.
They are the receivers, the poor are the givers.
How do you like these apples?
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post.of.the.year.

hf
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
What a profound short little paragraph that
says it all!!!

"You cannot legislate the poor into
freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one
person receives without working for, another person must
work for without receiving. The government cannot give to
anybody anything that the government does not first take
from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea
that they do not have to work because the other half is
going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the
idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is
going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is
about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by
dividing it."

~~~~~ Dr. Adrian
Rogers, 1931 - 2005 ~~~~~
 Quoting: Captain Dan


The words of a truly paranoid ego
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
Could you turn it around 1 time please!

It's actually the wealthy who do not work for the money they receive.
They are the receivers, the poor are the givers.
How do you like these apples?


post.of.the.year.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646453


I second that
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
Yes you can multiply wealth by dividing it, we're not talking about giving it to the people who are too lazy to work, but using it to get the minimum wages up.

Giving it to people who work with their hands, real labour, the people who fuck up their bodies by doing hard labour, constuction work.

Sure CEO's and such should probably earn more than these people, but not 20 or 30 times more, they are not worth that.

Minimum wages should go up so these people can spend more, this is good for the economy, the people who receive ridiculous ammounts of money, can't even spend it in their lifetime, and they dont need that much money to live.

By raising the minimum wages, the lazy will be stimulated more to get a job.
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
What a profound short little paragraph that
says it all!!!

"You cannot legislate the poor into
freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one
person receives without working for, another person must
work for without receiving. The government cannot give to
anybody anything that the government does not first take
from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea
that they do not have to work because the other half is
going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the
idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is
going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is
about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by
dividing it."

~~~~~ Dr. Adrian
Rogers, 1931 - 2005 ~~~~~
 Quoting: Captain Dan



This is flawed logic.
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Bingo.

You'll hear denial from those who live on others means.

'course, De Nile runs deep.
to herd or not to herd
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
Could you turn it around 1 time please!

It's actually the wealthy who do not work for the money they receive.
They are the receivers, the poor are the givers.
How do you like these apples?


post.of.the.year.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646453


Post of the year? Hardly!
But thanks anyway chuckle

Isn't it interesting that the people that are most important to keep our society together, like Jim the garbage man, or Robert the road worker etc. etc. , are the very same people who get the smallest salaries?

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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
Rick Wagoner made $15 million last year.

What did he do that was so special? How is he worth that much?
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He loved himself ENOUGH to ALLOW all worlds to come into alignment and create a JOB at GM.

It was his DREAM...

That is THE TRUTH.

Why must you HATE THOSE who have GREATER VISIONS and DREAMS than yourself.... he is not the problem.

Those who FAILED to CREATE hate him... for his creation.... just like they hate GOD for createing their self.

SELF LOVE is the KEY to Wealth.... and ALL THINGS...

Rick Wagoner has enought money for the rest of his life...

Bacteria have a practical significance . Some cause disease of the SYSTEM ... the Monetary System... thereby affecting health the economy. .
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Let's look at the flip side:

Share the wealth, equalize the poverty.
to herd or not to herd
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
The only problem we have is THE US GOVE has interfeared in something that would have FAILED and been RE-BUILT...

sometimes... failure can be a good thing... if you notice in your own life.... CHANGE always happens after a failure in life... but down the road you will be greater.

In this world... FAILURE is the way SPIRIT SETS you up for that which will be greater.
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
okay, just in case people have not realized this yet, the United States of America does not exist anymore!!!!


duh
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
Let's look at the flip side:

Share the wealth, equalize the poverty.
 Quoting: Jomama



does not work... because..... in 3 Dim... you have PROJOCTIONS..

in the 5th Dime there is LIGHT BLENDED with no demarcation from one to the other.

this world is ALL ABOUT the INDIVIDUAL PASSION to CREATE... not UNITY.

You lack in your own creation abiity... that LAZY CREATOR you are... so YOU want others to do it for you...

Get your ASS UP there where you belong Brother.... YOU HAVE THE POWER to create for youreself.

Stop your BS Madness...

Poverty is a STATE OF MIND.
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keep on waving your flags and believing that a republic exists... or even a democrazy for that matter, the reality is the U.S. has been gone even before I was born.
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The only problem we have is THE US GOVE has interfeared in something that would have FAILED and been RE-BUILT...

sometimes... failure can be a good thing... if you notice in your own life.... CHANGE always happens after a failure in life... but down the road you will be greater.

In this world... FAILURE is the way SPIRIT SETS you up for that which will be greater.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554626


Maybe there is an even greater thing going on behind what we see now?
Maybe the government will go down as well because of these latest actions?
Maybe that's the set up that we really need?
Maybe!
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Re: You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it
Then how do you justify the US govt giving billions to failed corporations? Their leaders failed and should not be rewarded. This is a capitalistic system, right? I'd rather my tax dollars go to supporting the food stamp program than bailing out some big corporation and their greedy execs.





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