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Michigan Company Fires all Smokers, even if they just smoke at their own home!

 
big brother strikes again
01/25/2005 10:58 AM
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Michigan Company Fires all Smokers, even if they just smoke at their own home!
Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke
Michigan Firm Won´t Allow Smoking, Even On Employee´s Own Time

UPDATED: 8:20 AM EST January 25, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have been fired for refusing to take a test to determine whether they smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos, Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired if they smoke, even if the smoking happens after business hours or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule was designed to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I don´t want to pay for the results of smoking," he said.

The rule led one employee to quit before the policy was adopted. Four others were fired when they balked at the smoking test.

Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of the company´s 200 employers were smokers when the policy was announced in 2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before the policy went into effect. The company offered them help to kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said.


On the company´s Web site, it states:

Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly supports its employees in living healthy lifestyles.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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commies
Freaky freak
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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I think they should give all the employees a lie
detector test establishing as to whether any of
the men/women, have ever entertained thoughts of
banging a particularly voluptuous and or hunky
male or female.
If so, they should be fired and charges filed.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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It´s okay to booze it up though.
Freaky freak
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Left out an important word:

"banging a particularly voluptuous and or hunky
(underage) male or female.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Any employees anywhere that are not actively
participating in the Christian religion should be
fired also. No brainer!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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outrageous
idol harobed
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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gwdance

It is all their own fault. They smoke because they want.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Perhaps we could make a law making euthanasia
mandatory for any smokers, drinkers, fat people,
druggies, adulterers, anti-war activists, and
hunters. This would of course be for their own
good.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Id´ think in a free country you can smoke a LEGAL substance if you want, if you had any such thing as FREEDOM anyway.

Go ahead and let them piss on all your rights sheep. I´m sure you´ll be much safer and happier in the long run becuase Big Brother truly does know best, right?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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You will do what we say or else. Idol thats no Choice. Who next, drinkers, then chocolate eaters, then milk drinkers, the list is endless.

We are free,
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12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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laci
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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csá
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Any employee participating in dangerous free time
sports such as snowboarding, skiing, hockey,
waterskiing, skydiving, skateboarding, rock
climbing (it could be a l o n g list), etc. should
be fired as they could as some point in time, miss
work unnecessaryly.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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What about nose pickers and zit busters, thats really unhealthy.

Sack em all...............
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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What about nose pickers and zit busters, thats really unhealthy.

Sack em all...............

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cheer
Jubal
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Fat people put the heaviest burden on the health care system and should all be fired.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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It would also be a good idea for companies to hand
out menus designed by nutrictionists/doctors for
their employees to follow. The could be enforced
by a team showing up unannounced at the employees
houses at meantime. Two discovered violations and
YOUR FIRED!
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12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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according to the recent study where smoking has a "healthy" plus of preventing parkinson´s.

So, if parkinson´s runs in my family, i smoke, and i worked there, could i sue??
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12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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*Fat people put the heaviest burden on the health care system and should all be fired.*

AMEN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cheer
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12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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oh not fired, but put on a diet for losing weight.
HoosierMama
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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This isn´t too surprising in MI. In June, they raised the tax to $2/pack, 2nd highest in the nation (NJ is $2.05). AND they´ve been arresting and making examples of people who are caught with cigarettes from bordering states.

1 pack = up to 1 year in jail or $5,000 fine, zero tolerance policy.

[link to www.wndu.com]
Healthy User
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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I just fired Weyco, lowered my healthcare costs dramtically.

Anything you can do, we can do better.
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12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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"AND they´ve been arresting and making examples of people who are caught with cigarettes from bordering states.

1 pack = up to 1 year in jail or $5,000 fine, zero tolerance policy."

When it gets to the point they are saying to give them cig tax money or go to jail, I think it´s time for another Boston Tea Party.

Just that´s just me I know. I come from an ancient line of Americans that HAD BALLS.
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In my many years (30+) in the workplace I´ve
noticed absenteism is much higher among single,
brown-eyed people, they probably should be fired
too.
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12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Conformity is good

Don´t ask questions

Obey

Resistance is futile
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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This isn´t too surprising in MI. In June, they raised the tax to $2/pack, 2nd highest in the nation (NJ is $2.05). AND they´ve been arresting and making examples of people who are caught with cigarettes from bordering states.

1 pack = up to 1 year in jail or $5,000 fine, zero tolerance policy.

so much for a free country. Go to neighbouring statem buy some fags and go to jail.

These bastards are going to face justice, easch and every self satisfied smug one of them.
HoosierMama
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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The politicians are just pushing it more and more and getting away with it. Here in Indiana, they just increased our property taxes, A LOT!!
100%, 200% and even 300%
[link to www.wndu.com]

Our county also invented a "wheel tax". Now when you get your plates, you have to pay an extra $25. Even if you sell or trade that car, get another, you have to pay the $25 AGAIN just to transfer the plates!
[link to www.wndu.com]

AND NOW, our new governor is going to make everyone who makes over $100,000 pay a supposed one time tax to pay off their $600 million state deficit all at once!
[link to www.wndu.com]

This is getting ridiculous. They just take what they want, when they want it, from whoever they want. Discrimination right from the horse´s mouth. Theft from their citizens.

I´m curious about other states. To other posters here... have your local and state governments also been inventing "NEW" taxes?
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12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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Sure, every state is.

They have to make up the taxes lost from Bush´s $2 Trillion giveaway to the rich.

Everyone that thought Bush was so great for giving them $300 is now taking it up the ass in sundry other ways for more than that amount, I´m sure.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
captain obvious
12/08/2005 10:12 AM
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When the people went to work for the company, THEY AGREED TO A CONTRACT.

If a company wants to stipulate certain limitations, the potential employee has the right to ACCEPT or REJECT them.

Both sides have options to put in stipulations; if no agreement is reached, the potential employee can search for work elsewhere.
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"Both sides have options to put in stipulations; if no agreement is reached, the potential employee can search for work elsewhere."

Stop smoking or else. Doesn´t sound like much of an "agreement" to me.

What fucking difference should it make if they smoke at HOME. It´s not at WORK or REPESENTING the company.

And what about places like where I work? When I started there, there was a smoking area. The Big Boss said a year ago it was going to come down that you can´t smoke on company property, so effectively you can´t smoke for 8 hours if this happens as you can´t leave the plant on breaks.

Is that cool too? Another "agreement" made?

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