SAVE OUR GARDENS

Thanks this is another good post. I had a thread last week on this also it is so important for people to understand what is happening and at stake right now.

No way. WOW

not going to happen


period


we have bigger things to worry about , stay focused

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one more way to starve out the very people who can
do the best at rebuilding after this created collapse !




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Not to be off topic but

Very true Malu you said something profound yesterday that made me sit up in the middle of the night. You said something to the effect on the Rev's thread about the flu coming now or maybe next flu season etc but be prepared. ( Meaning now or later coming) Well if later next flu season with this new law for gardens and Codex coming Dec 2009 you will no longer be able to get many supplements and vitamins at all or some above certain doses without a Dr. Prescription.

Anyway this is important to not let get through being able to grow your own food etc is important!!

maybe i am missing something here


have the longwalkers given TPTB some type of high speed cloning device to produce all these people who are going to monitor us?


let me put it in perspective, "war on drugs"

how is that going? and now there will be a "war on vegetables"?


riiiiiiiight

hehe Malu


Thanks to the mod who pinned this. Blessings to you and yours.

Thanks OP for the post

I know there is many articles out there for people to get educated on.

Here is the thread I did last week with a different article by Lynn ...

Thread: Monsanto bills being rushed through Congress to destroy Organic Farming

i have gone into high gear to increase certain preps to a two year level

i am all set on seeds, and now i have a great collection of all medicinal herbs

i can put up with a lot of shit, but f*ck with my garden, and you just started a war ;)

Have read both bills, and the House Bill is really unbelievable, it should be defeated just for it's creation of a new, massive agency to take the place of the food part of the FDA. It's an insane idea that should be shot down. I heard these were coming up soon, so call your reps AND the sponsors of the bill (listed on front page). The House Bill is so broad it could include your garden...it also says "every vineyard and orchard" would be considered a "food production" facility. WTF? Nothing is defined well except, of course, penalties. 1 million per infraction, and each day the infraction continues is considered a new infraction. CRIMINAL.

save organic local farms..


what is most important for Humans?

pure water,air,food


they flouridate and dump pharmacueticals in our water...

they chemtrail and pollute our air..

and nw they are trying to force gmo,pesticide,chemical food.

these repukes won't get their way.

thank god for the dem majority!

I wonder if I can sew little bullet proof vests for my tomatoes.

These bills coupled with the fact that the draconian limits on water consumption in California (NO irrigation water to thousands of people) just leads me to believe that TPTB think they have their 'ducks in a row' to bring about this 'One World Socialism' up and online.

A pandemic will just escalate it's implementation.

Truly perilous days ahead.

It's good to be in God's Hands...

(Don't say we didn't see this one coming)

Straight out of The New Order of the Barbarians transcripts. If you haven't read the transcripts they are ultra creepy and a must read:

[link to 100777.com]

Here's the section on FOOD CONTROL:

Food supplies would come under tight control. If population growth didn't slow down, food shortages could be created in a hurry and people would realize the dangers of overpopulation.

Ultimately, whether the population slows down or not the food supply is to be brought under centralized control so that people would have enough to be well-nourished but they would not have enough to support any fugitive from the new system. In other words, if you had a friend or relative who didn't sign on, and growing ones own food would be outlawed.

This would be done under some sort of pretext. In the beginning I mentioned there were two purposes for everything - one the ostensible purpose and one the real purpose, and the ostensible purpose here would be that growing your own vegetables was unsafe, it would spread disease or something like that. So the acceptable idea was to protect the consumer but the real idea was to limit the food supply and growing your own food would be illegal. And if you persist in illegal activities like growing your own food, then you're a criminal.

My italics.

The "disease potential" is the big argument in the House Bill.

the link doesn't work

they are fucking with the wrong melon farmers :D

THUG LIFE :o

How much more ass pounding are we going to take? I'm getting tired of it, my bum is getting sore.

SOG!


[link to www.sogknives.com]


Melon splitter

Guess my carrots and cukes will really be for "flower bouquets" when they knock on my door.....

This bill must really be an important part of the greater agenda, to be pushed now with a straight-face, even as the entire economy goes onto life support...

Requirements to be called an Organic Farmer

Here are some Synthetic substances allowed for use in organic crop production.

Straight from the Government

[link to www.ams.usda.gov]

§ 205.601 Synthetic substances allowed for use in organic crop production.
In accordance with restrictions specified in this section, the following synthetic substances may
be used in organic crop production: Provided, That, use of such substances do not contribute to
contamination of crops, soil, or water. Substances allowed by this section, except disinfectants
and sanitizers in paragraph (a) and those substances in paragraphs (c), (j), (k), and (l) of this
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section, may only be used when the provisions set forth in §205.206(a) through (d) prove
insufficient to prevent or control the target pest.
(a) As algicide, disinfectants, and sanitizer, including irrigation system cleaning systems.
(1) Alcohols.
(i) Ethanol.
(ii) Isopropanol.
(2) Chlorine materials— Except, That, residual chlorine levels in the water shall not exceed the
maximum residual disinfectant limit under the Safe Drinking Water Act.
(i) Calcium hypochlorite.
(ii) Chlorine dioxide.
(iii) Sodium hypochlorite.
(3) Copper sulfate—for use as an algicide in aquatic rice systems, is limited to one application
per field during any 24-month period. Application rates are limited to those which do not
increase baseline soil test values for copper over a timeframe agreed upon by the producer and
accredited certifying agent.
(4) Hydrogen peroxide.
(5) Ozone gas—for use as an irrigation system cleaner only.
(6) Peracetic acid—for use in disinfecting equipment, seed, and asexually propagated planting
material.
(7) Soap-based algicide/demossers.
(b) As herbicides, weed barriers, as applicable.
(1) Herbicides, soap-based—for use in farmstead maintenance (roadways, ditches, right of ways,
building perimeters) and ornamental crops.
(2) Mulches.
(i) Newspaper or other recycled paper, without glossy or colored inks.
(ii) Plastic mulch and covers (petroleum-based other than polyvinyl chloride (PVC)).
(c) As compost feedstocks—Newspapers or other recycled paper, without glossy or colored inks.
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(d) As animal repellents—Soaps, ammonium—for use as a large animal repellant only, no
contact with soil or edible portion of crop.
(e) As insecticides (including acaricides or mite control).
(1) Ammonium carbonate—for use as bait in insect traps only, no direct contact with crop or
soil.
(2) Boric acid—structural pest control, no direct contact with organic food or crops.
(3) Copper sulfate—for use as tadpole shrimp control in aquatic rice production, is limited to one
application per field during any 24-month period. Application rates are limited to levels which
do not increase baseline soil test values for copper over a timeframe agreed upon by the producer
and accredited certifying agent.
(4) Elemental sulfur.
(5) Lime sulfur—including calcium polysulfide.
(6) Oils, horticultural—narrow range oils as dormant, suffocating, and summer oils.
(7) Soaps, insecticidal.
(8) Sticky traps/barriers.
(9) Sucrose octanoate esters (CAS #s—42922–74–7; 58064–47–4)—in accordance with
approved labeling.
(f) As insect management. Pheromones.
(g) As rodenticides.
(1) Sulfur dioxide—underground rodent control only (smoke bombs).
(2) Vitamin D3.
(h) As slug or snail bait. Ferric phosphate (CAS # 10045–86–0).
(i) As plant disease control.
(1) Coppers, fixed—copper hydroxide, copper oxide, copper oxychloride, includes products
exempted from EPA tolerance, Provided, That, copper-based materials must be used in a manner
that minimizes accumulation in the soil and shall not be used as herbicides.
(2) Copper sulfate—Substance must be used in a manner that minimizes accumulation of copper
in the soil.
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(3) Hydrated lime.
(4) Hydrogen peroxide.
(5) Lime sulfur.
(6) Oils, horticultural, narrow range oils as dormant, suffocating, and summer oils.
(7) Peracetic acid—for use to control fire blight bacteria.
(8) Potassium bicarbonate.
(9) Elemental sulfur.
(10) Streptomycin, for fire blight control in apples and pears only.
(11) Tetracycline (oxytetracycline calcium complex), for fire blight control only.
(j) As plant or soil amendments.
(1) Aquatic plant extracts (other than hydrolyzed)—Extraction process is limited to the use of
potassium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide; solvent amount used is limited to that amount
necessary for extraction.
(2) Elemental sulfur.
(3) Humic acids—naturally occurring deposits, water and alkali extracts only.
(4) Lignin sulfonate—chelating agent, dust suppressant, floatation agent.
(5) Magnesium sulfate—allowed with a documented soil deficiency.
(6) Micronutrients—not to be used as a defoliant, herbicide, or desiccant. Those made from
nitrates or chlorides are not allowed. Soil deficiency must be documented by testing.
(i) Soluble boron products.
(ii) Sulfates, carbonates, oxides, or silicates of zinc, copper, iron, manganese, molybdenum,
selenium, and cobalt.
(7) Liquid fish products—can be pH adjusted with sulfuric, citric or phosphoric acid. The
amount of acid used shall not exceed the minimum needed to lower the pH to 3.5.
(8) Vitamins, B1, C, and E.
(k) As plant growth regulators. Ethylene gas—for regulation of pineapple flowering.
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(l) As floating agents in postharvest handling.
(1) Lignin sulfonate.
(2) Sodium silicate—for tree fruit and fiber processing.
(m) As synthetic inert ingredients as classified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA),
for use with nonsynthetic substances or synthetic substances listed in this section and used as an
active pesticide ingredient in accordance with any limitations on the use of such substances.
(1) EPA List 4—Inerts of Minimal Concern.
(2) EPA List 3—Inerts of Unknown Toxicity allowed:
(i) Glycerine Oleate (Glycerol monooleate) (CAS #s 37220–82–9)—for use only until December
31, 2006.
(ii) Inerts used in passive pheromone dispensers.
(n) Seed preparations. Hydrogen chloride (CAS # 7647–01–0)—for delinting cotton seed for
planting.
(o)–(z) [Reserved]
[65 FR 80637, Dec. 21, 2000, as amended at 68 FR 61992, Oct. 31, 2003; 71 FR 53302 Sept. 11, 2006; 72 FR
69572, Dec. 10, 2007]
§ 205.602 Nonsynthetic substances prohibited for use in organic crop production.
The following nonsynthetic substances may not be used in organic crop production:
(a) Ash from manure burning.
(b) Arsenic.
(c) Calcium chloride, brine process is natural and prohibited for use except as a foliar spray to
treat a physiological disorder associated with calcium uptake.
(d) Lead salts.
(e) Potassium chloride—unless derived from a mined source and applied in a manner that
minimizes chloride accumulation in the soil.
(f) Sodium fluoaluminate (mined).
(g) Sodium nitrate—unless use is restricted to no more than 20% of the crop's total nitrogen
requirement; use in spirulina production is unrestricted until October 21, 2005.
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(h) Strychnine.
(i) Tobacco dust (nicotine sulfate).
(j)–(z) [Reserved]
[68 FR 61992, Oct. 31, 2003]
§ 205.603 Synthetic substances allowed for use in organic livestock production.
In accordance with restrictions specified in this section the following synthetic substances may
be used in organic livestock production:
(a) As disinfectants, sanitizer, and medical treatments as applicable.
(1) Alcohols.
(i) Ethanol-disinfectant and sanitizer only, prohibited as a feed additive.
(ii) Isopropanol-disinfectant only.
(2) Aspirin-approved for health care use to reduce inflammation.
(3) Atropine (CAS #–51–55–8)—federal law restricts this drug to use by or on the lawful written
or oral order of a licensed veterinarian, in full compliance with the AMDUCA and 21 CFR part
530 of the Food and Drug Administration regulations. Also, for use under 7 CFR Part 205, the
NOP requires:
(i) Use by or on the lawful written order of a licensed veterinarian; and
(ii) A meat withdrawal period of at least 56 days after administering to livestock intended for
slaughter; and a milk discard period of at least 12 days after administering to dairy animals.
(4) Biologics—Vaccines.
(5) Butorphanol (CAS #–42408–82–2)—federal law restricts this drug to use by or on the lawful
written or oral order of a licensed veterinarian, in full compliance with the AMDUCA and 21
CFR part 530 of the Food and Drug Administration regulations. Also, for use under 7 CFR Part
205, the NOP requires:
(i) Use by or on the lawful written order of a licensed veterinarian; and
(ii) A meat withdrawal period of at least 42 days after administering to livestock intended for
slaughter; and a milk discard period of at least 8 days after administering to dairy animals.
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(6) Chlorhexidine—Allowed for surgical procedures conducted by a veterinarian. Allowed for
use as a teat dip when alternative germicidal agents and/or physical barriers have lost their
effectiveness.
(7) Chlorine materials—disinfecting and sanitizing facilities and equipment. Residual chlorine
levels in the water shall not exceed the maximum residual disinfectant limit under the Safe
Drinking Water Act.
(i) Calcium hypochlorite.
(ii) Chlorine dioxide.
(iii) Sodium hypochlorite.
(8) Electrolytes—without antibiotics.
(9) Flunixin (CAS #–38677–85–9)—in accordance with approved labeling; except that for use
under 7 CFR Part 205, the NOP requires a withdrawal period of at least two-times that required
by the FDA.
(10) Furosemide (CAS #–54–31–9)—in accordance with approved labeling; except that for use
under 7 CFR Part 205, the NOP requires a withdrawal period of at least two-times that required
that required by the FDA.
(11) Glucose.
(12) Glycerine—Allowed as a livestock teat dip, must be produced through the hydrolysis of fats
or oils.
(13) Hydrogen peroxide.
(14) Iodine.
(15) Magnesium hydroxide (CAS #–1309–42–8)—federal law restricts this drug to use by or on
the lawful written or oral order of a licensed veterinarian, in full compliance with the AMDUCA
and 21 CFR part 530 of the Food and Drug Administration regulations. Also, for use under 7
CFR part 205, the NOP requires use by or on the lawful written order of a licensed veterinarian.
(16) Magnesium sulfate.
(17) Oxytocin—use in postparturition therapeutic applications.
(18) Paraciticides. Ivermectin—prohibited in slaughter stock, allowed in emergency treatment
for dairy and breeder stock when organic system plan-approved preventive management does not
prevent infestation. Milk or milk products from a treated animal cannot be labeled as provided
for in subpart D of this part for 90 days following treatment. In breeder stock, treatment cannot
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This isn't surprising since there is a city not far from where I live that passed an ordinance banning garden plots larger than 50 square feet (that would be 1 row 25 ft long and 2 ft wide)inside the city limits.
The "logic" behind this is that people would be forced to buy fruits and veggies at the local markets thus putting money back into the economy and community.
Oh and that lone apple tree in your backyard that produces fruit counts as 5 sq ft of your allotted 50.

lol!
Call Monsano- maybe they've engineered some
for occasions such as these.

wow..


they are going to keep on pushing bullshit rules until we do something about it..

it's time to do something...

any ideas?

any links to petitions at least?

stop buying your foods grow that shit like hydro downstairs if you have to that is your petition. do that shit up and rule them because we have no need for them or the false knowledge.

Right now i got about 20 seedlings waiting for warm weather under fluresence and too many pots in windows.

AND it just started snowing outside... -_-

DO shit or die.

That makes no fucking sense at all. What town was this?

I don't understand anyone at any time discouraging anyone from gardening, gardening is the #1 hobby in the nation and a HUGE industry that employs many people.

But especially now, with the economic news being what it is, the government at all levels should be pushing Victory-style gardens for everyone, for health reasons, for education, for therapeutic reasons, for beautification, for production, for everything. For the glory of God, if it's not subversive to say so.

That makes no fucking sense at all. What town was this?

I don't understand anyone at any time discouraging anyone from gardening, gardening is the #1 hobby in the nation and a HUGE industry that employs many people.

But especially now, with the economic news being what it is, the government at all levels should be pushing Victory-style gardens for everyone, for health reasons, for education, for therapeutic reasons, for beautification, for production, for everything. For the glory of God, if it's not subversive to say so.