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So I was thumbing around and lookie what I found.

I am so shocked and feel like I am the last one to find out. It's been over a year since the height of his support, but,

RON PAUL = A Mason?!?!

Where the heck was I at? I was a huge supporter. Never missed him on Alex Jones but by August/September 2008 it was clear that his spotlight was fading.

I've never felt so duped. I really thought this guy was genuine.

It seems like the masons and eastern stars are coming out of the woodwork nowadays. What gives?

We know that they are Luciferian organizations but many of their followers don't think so - at least not the low level pee-ons.

So what's bothering me is who else don't we know are masons or eastern stars and if it was something to be so proud of, why don't they tell us this from the beginning? It's because they'll lose all credibility.

We are being lied to by so many people in so many ways it is overwhelming. I'd planned on keeping my campaign signs to show the kiddies one day of how I help to fight all this corruption but I'm trashing it tonight.

I can't help but wonder who else is in the public eye but secretly makes ritualistic to the dark side of Satan.

Here is the article that made me say "done":

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Source: [link to aftermathnews.wordpress.com]

I know this is a taboo subject among Ron Paul supporters, of which I was one myself in the very beginning of his presidential campaign. And even if it is proven beyond any doubt that he is a freemason, many will just put it aside and pretend it doesn’t matter “because he is such a decent and honest man” etc. But many others are very curious to know what RP’s status is regarding Freemasonry because it does matter, and I fully intend to find out myself. Therefore, it is high time we started talking openly about it and try to ascertain the truth, one way or another.

I just happened to stumble across this comment over at the Daily Paul yesterday, and thought that I should share it with whoever is interested in knowing whether or not Ron Paul is a Freemason.

This does not prove anything in that regard, however it makes the probability that he is a Freemason very much higher since Eastern Star members are generally married to Freemason husbands, Rainbow girls are generally children of masons and because Ron Paul’s father was also a mason. And in addition, according to the comment, he “respects the organization”, which is wholly uncharacteristic of anyone who is supposedly fighting against the masonically-inspired New World Order. Ron Paul is also an unofficial member of the John Birch Society, which was founded by masons, funded by Nelson Rockefeller and run by Jesuit-trained Knights of Malta. In other words, the JBS is a gatekeeper organization, designed to control the opposition and make sure nothing substantial is ever done to impede the New World Order system which just keeps on rolling over humanity. How about the Jahbulon Bullshit Society for a more appropriate name?

Here is the comment in full rebutting an anti-masonic posting:

Ron Paul and Freemasonry

On April 20th, 2008 the oak says:

Liberty Oak Ranch

Quit using Ron Paul as a forum for your bigotted beliefs. You don’t know anything about him or his ideals obviously. You also know nothing about the Freemason or Eastern Star organizations.

1. Ron Paul’s father was a Freemason and Dr. Paul has said himself many times that he respects the organization and has been to many of the open meetings in his district. I should know, I was his scheduler for ten years.

2. His wife, Carol is a member of the Velasco Order of the Eastern Star and maintains her membership in the Freeport area lodge.

3. Their daughters, Lori and Joy, were both Rainbow girls, another organization associated with Freemasonry.

Your hatefilled retoric regarding a benevolent, Biblically based organization is likened to those who have a fear of the unknown. It spawns lies and hate


toward those who are innocent and have done good for others. Just try taking your child to the Shriner’s burn or crippled childrens hospital. They will take care of your child regardless of your ignorance and will do it free of charge. How many people has your paranoia helped?

Source: [link to www.dailypaul.com]

Unfortunately, the link now says “access denied” for whatever reason. Maybe you can explain to me why the link no longer works. I even tried to find the page again through a Google search (how I found it originally) and nothing. Poof! Gone. No trace. Not even a Google cache available. I wonder why? Hmmm….

If anyone knows the actual identity of this “scheduler” with the handle of “Liberty Oak Ranch”, please share it here with us to help confirm the validity of the comment.

I looked up the Eastern Star chapter being referred to if anyone wants to try and research this further:

Velasco Chapter No. 220 (District 4)

Worthy Matron: Mrs. Leota Romine
Worthy Patron: Paul Romine
Secretary: Mrs. Yvonne Huffhines
1210 N. Avenue O
Freeport Texas 77541
2nd & 4th Mon 7:30pm
Ph. (979) 233-1567

Then, one might assume that Ron Paul frequently goes (as the scheduler claims) to meetings at a masonic lodge in the same area, so I found this lodge listed with the Grand Lodge of Texas website which it would seem is a very likely candidate for being one of those lodges he attends:

Velasco Masonic Lodge #757

Douglas Raborn W.M.
email Edward Garcia edgarcia005@sbcglobal.net
Masonic District 31-C
Located in Brazoria County
115 year old Lodge ( Charter granted December 8, 1893)
Members: 176
Lodge Address: 1210 N. Ave. O, Freeport 77541
Mailing Address: P.O. Box 757
Meetings: First and Third Tuesday of each month, 7:30 p.m.
Lodge Phone: 979-233-3623

As I gather more information on what I am 90% sure is a fact, that Ron Paul is a high Freemason of the 33rd degree or above, who knows the masonic agenda and yet keeps it all a secret from his supporters (as Dick Cheney kept his CFR membership a secret from his constituents in Wyoming), I will immediately pass it on to you the public who have a right to know the truth.

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It also seems like other GLP'ers have brought up this issue as well.

Thread 1 - RON PAUL IS AN ILLUMINATI MASTER MASON AND A DECEIVER, THEY ARE TRICKING THE PEOPLE! Thread: RON PAUL IS AN ILLUMINATI MASTER MASON AND A DECEIVER, THEY ARE TRICKING THE PEOPLE!

Thread 2 - Ron Paul is a mason -inserted into elction hoax Thread: Ron Paul is a mason -inserted into elction hoax


I just want to scream DAMN IT. I can't trust Obama and the one guy who I thought was completely removed from all of this NEW WORLD ORDER mess was Ron Paul. I guess that's why he ended his campaign early.
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News Flash: They are ALL a part of it. Anyone who is not will NEVER get a chance to get anywhere near a position of any importance at all.
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Who gives a fuck? Most of the Founding Fathers and Framers of the Constitution were Masons. It is in fact possible to be a part of an organization and not support it entirely. Or do you just fall into line like a whipped boy?
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a LOT of masons are good people. serious man..
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
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It's OK cause it's Ron Paul! Don't worry about a thing, Masons are OK now!....

I wonder what kind of beeny car Ron Paul has....I'm guessing something like a real old timey one...maybe a Beeny Model T....
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LOL @ Ron Paul followers, he is so part of the system, whether mason or not.
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Who gives a fuck? Most of the Founding Fathers and Framers of the Constitution were Masons. It is in fact possible to be a part of an organization and not support it entirely. Or do you just fall into line like a whipped boy?
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Guess I fell in line. I am not prideful about it.

It just seems like everyone has an agenda. Nobody truly cares about the little guy anymore.

If anyone has any information on Alex Jones, Ted Anderson or anyone else associated please post it.
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It's OK cause it's Ron Paul! Don't worry about a thing, Masons are OK now!....

I wonder what kind of beeny car Ron Paul has....I'm guessing something like a real old timey one...maybe a Beeny Model T....
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i think my grandfather may have been a mason. he is a great person.

mom's boyfriend, a mason. a friend that recently deployed, mason. master chief of my command, mason. LPO, a mason. they are all pretty decent people, but who am i to say how masons fit in with conspiracies? heck if i know. cus i don't know.
LOL @ Ron Paul followers, he is so part of the system, whether mason or not.
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so are you .. and I
whether you realize it or not
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
"I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep"
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a LOT of masons are good people. serious man..
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Well they may be "good people" but there's nothing good about worshipping Lucifer. Sorry buddy.

Beware of the Baphomet.
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a LOT of masons are good people. serious man..


Well they may be "good people" but there's nothing good about worshipping Lucifer. Sorry buddy.

Beware of the Baphomet.
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i think you may be thinking about the Skull and Bones society. not sure. a few masons here in the states may be bad apples, but i know for sure that nearly most masons are good people.

OKC bomber was a mason, from what i heard. Jack the Ripper was a mason. just giving examples on both view points and from my own experiences in life.
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so are you .. and I
whether you realize it or not
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Don't try to twist it. He is a right wing, establishment player, all words, no action. Change he is not.
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George Washington was a freemason too but ignored the whole thing his whole life and never went to a single meeting in like 30 years. I think thats why they mock him with that statue in Washington in the form/pose of Bale or whatever evil horned beast is.

Membership doesn't mean evil automatically. Only the evil ones graduate up the ladder.
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To the complete and TOTAL fuckhead who said they are "Good people"..

Consider this..

HITLER was Mason..HE was a good person too. Upstnding member of govt..loved his family..his dog..always working for the people. He singlehandedly built Germany up from NOTHING.

yes..HE WAS good...

Just consider how GOOD Obama is....

AND..when Ron Paul comes along..he is ONLY "ACTING" His part..doing as he is TOLD..and making it DAMN CONVINCING..because THAT is the very PART these "GOOD PEOPLE" GROOMED Him for.

JUST to keep the Public DIVIDED..while the REAL BEAST IS ELECTED!!!
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so are you .. and I
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Don't try to twist it. He is a right wing, establishment player, all words, no action. Change he is not.
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ohhhh he is a right wing now.. okayyyyy...

he is a LIBERTARIAN with a squeaky clean record.

not trying to twist it man. we are all a bit of a cog, unless you live off and outside the grid or something.

you expect action? well so do i, but he is about 1 of 2 out of hundreds of congressmen that have been been telling everyone how it is. i know what it is like to not have anyone listen to ya. i'm sure you know what it is like too.
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so are you .. and I
whether you realize it or not

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I can't understand why anyone would defend this at risk of their souls and eternal salvation.

There is no doubt that these masonic organization whether it is Jacob's Ladder, Rainbow Girls, Eastern Star, Grand Lodge Mason or your typical college fraternity or sorority, THEY ALL PLEDGE ALLEGIANCES to Lucifer whether they know or not. The top levels will never tell the low levels what's going on. They use recruitment as a way to draw people in who are innocent in their quest for friendship or willingness to do more in their communities.

The devil is a Liar and a DECEIVER and the biggest snake oil salesman. So I cannot figure out why someone would want to get involved in this or hide the fact that they are involved for political gain when the truth is that it's all a lie.
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a LOT of masons are good people. serious man..
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Agreed. its kind of like a religion, so use the example of Catholics. Because one is Catholic doesn't mean they are pawns of the Vatican.
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Agreed. its kind of like a religion, so use the example of Catholics. Because one is Catholic doesn't mean they are pawns of the Vatican.
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so what if someone was involved in the KKK? Does that make them as bad as David Duke. Are only some members okay or does the fact that one accepts the ideology make them guilty by association?
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OP seems a bit confused. do you have a link pertaining to masons being involved with Baphomet worship? i realize who are involved with Baphomet.. Revelations 2:9, 3:9. ok?

however there may be some bad apples out there, but have you not met many masons?

Ron Paul has informed many americans about our rights and well.. what is logically right. example: no more policing the world, sound money..
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
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a LOT of masons are good people. serious man..
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I sooo agree with you on that.My father was a Mason and you could not have found a better nor more giving person.There are good and bad in everything.Cant judge all by some.
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I'm saying that most of the people in Masonry or any other religion, like the Catholic Church, or any other religion, are noT aware of the hidden agendas, and are just looking at the basic assumptions of good these institutions supposably do.
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ohhhh he is a right wing now.. okayyyyy...
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That's right, and he and his disinformation/disorientation agents: see Bob Chapman and Peter Schiff, defending the "free market" and fear mongering with socialism, are really mad because they have been ignored by the straussian sector of the republican party. Ron Paul, change to what? or back to the past?
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My Dad was/is a Mason....his brother was The Grand Pubah, or whatever it's called of their group.

My Mom's Dad was a Mason.

My husband's Dad was another Grand Pubah, and his Mom was/is a higher upper in Eastern Star.

I was a Rainbow Girl for one meeting when I was in 8th grade.
It was the most boring thing I ever went to, and I quit that night and never went back.

My HB was invited to be a Mason a few yrs ago, and wasn't interested.

Beyond all the nefarious crap.....
From my experience most people involved in this "club" are normal people.

They like groups, clubs, meetings, whatever.

Kind of like The Elks Club.

Does that mean there isn't an inner core that is evil?
No.
I have no idea.

And weirdly enough my Dad recently mentioned The Illuminati as a bad thing.

But I know that his thought was from outside research.
NOT from experience.

Whatever.
As far as I'm concerned, The Mason's, The Eastern Star, Rainbow Girls and all of that are just one more club/meeting/membership/fellowship......whatever you want to call it.

As for RP being a member?

Do you really think he has this awesome evil Masonic power from being a member of this somewhat ridiculous group?

Seems like he would be the president right now instead of (sigh) BO if that were the case.

jmo
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OP seems a bit confused. do you have a link pertaining to masons being involved with Baphomet worship? i realize who are involved with Baphomet.. Revelations 2:9, 3:9. ok?

however there may be some bad apples out there, but have you not met many masons?

Ron Paul has informed many americans about our rights and well.. what is logically right. example: no more policing the world, sound money..
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sorry, but perhaps you are the confused one. good luck explaining your devotion to your "friends" who are associated with this to God on judgement day

Here is your link:
[link to www.freemasonrywatch.org]

Hopefully, you'll read it and do some of your own research instead of being told by "trusted friends" that it's all okay.

You are a follower. Sadly, I was once a follower too. I will never again believe that any man has my best interest in mind.

It was too good to be true. I am just a day late and a dollar short in finding this out.
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I'm saying that most of the people in Masonry or any other religion, like the Catholic Church, or any other religion, are noT aware of the hidden agendas, and are just looking at the basic assumptions of good these institutions supposably do.
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and that's how SATAN works.

He is a deceiver and so many people are being lied to that going to these meetings, taking minutes, doing community service, saying pledges and etc. are for the good of the community.

WE ARE ALL BEING LIED TO
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I'm saying that most of the people in Masonry or any other religion, like the Catholic Church, or any other religion, are noT aware of the hidden agendas, and are just looking at the basic assumptions of good these institutions supposably do.


and that's how SATAN works.

He is a deceiver and so many people are being lied to that going to these meetings, taking minutes, doing community service, saying pledges and etc. are for the good of the community.

WE ARE ALL BEING LIED TO
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So you would eliminate a candidate that holds your values and speaks the truth because he goes to a Catholic church, or Episcipalian, for that matter.
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RP, mason or not, who gives a shit. He stands for the constitution and personal liberties. Do you? I do. Does that make me, a supporter of the constitution and RP, an accomplice of evil? And I'd love to have some links about RP saying he respects masons and such. Links about anything you're saying, after all. About RP being in Birch society, his wife in Eastern Star, etc. Because the links you provide don't tell anything about that.

No linky you stinky
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My Dad was/is a Mason....his brother was The Grand Pubah, or whatever it's called of their group.

My Mom's Dad was a Mason.

My husband's Dad was another Grand Pubah, and his Mom was/is a higher upper in Eastern Star.

I was a Rainbow Girl for one meeting when I was in 8th grade.
It was the most boring thing I ever went to, and I quit that night and never went back.

My HB was invited to be a Mason a few yrs ago, and wasn't interested.

Beyond all the nefarious crap.....
From my experience most people involved in this "club" are normal people.

They like groups, clubs, meetings, whatever.

Kind of like The Elks Club.

Does that mean there isn't an inner core that is evil?
No.
I have no idea.

And weirdly enough my Dad recently mentioned The Illuminati as a bad thing.

But I know that his thought was from outside research.
NOT from experience.

Whatever.
As far as I'm concerned, The Mason's, The Eastern Star, Rainbow Girls and all of that are just one more club/meeting/membership/fellowship......whatever you want to call it.

As for RP being a member?

Do you really think he has this awesome evil Masonic power from being a member of this somewhat ridiculous group?

Seems like he would be the president right now instead of (sigh) BO if that were the case.

jmo
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What you posted is very much the same as my family.I just never saw it as a serious threat to anything.They did lots of good deeds for the people in the area.If a family had a medical emergency they would bring groceries and help pay bills,etc for the member and their family.They had a retirement home where elderly could go if they had no place nor anyone to look after them.
I have never once heard of any of this stuff that I have read posted online from the Masons in the local area I was from.My family members never did anything that made me suspect them doing any wrong doings.Maybe there is more to it than I ever knew but my parents and grandparents were never involved in any of this 'suppose to be evil' agenda that I keep reading about.Not saying it doesnt exist just that I am not aware of it on a personal level with any Mason I ever knew.
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I can't understand why anyone would defend this at risk of their souls and eternal salvation.

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I guess I just don't think that joining this group has condemned my soul to Hell for all time.

I did quit, you know. One meeting. Jeeze. :)

But, had I not?

Who are you to judge?

Are you God?
Are you the ONE with all the answers?

Do you really have the ability to decipher God's word?

I wish you the best, honestly.
I think your heart is probably close to the right place.

But....step back just a wee bit, maybe.

And stop looking for Evil.
Look for the Good.
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What you posted is very much the same as my family.I just never saw it as a serious threat to anything.They did lots of good deeds for the people in the area.If a family had a medical emergency they would bring groceries and help pay bills,etc for the member and their family.They had a retirement home where elderly could go if they had no place nor anyone to look after them.
I have never once heard of any of this stuff that I have read posted online from the Masons in the local area I was from.My family members never did anything that made me suspect them doing any wrong doings.Maybe there is more to it than I ever knew but my parents and grandparents were never involved in any of this 'suppose to be evil' agenda that I keep reading about.Not saying it doesnt exist just that I am not aware of it on a personal level with any Mason I ever knew.
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Well, did you ever think that you had no idea what was going on was because you weren't suppose to know.

I know that it's common inside knowledge that when pledges are made during ritual ceremonies, an initate promise to never share the going-ons with any outsider. The language is actually a bit more detailed that this but that is why the average person not involved never is able to find out what happens behind closed doors or the manner in which services/meetings are conducted.

It's all a set up and puts generational curses on the family of those involved.

Ephesians 5:11
"Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them."
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I'm saying that most of the people in Masonry or any other religion, like the Catholic Church, or any other religion, are noT aware of the hidden agendas, and are just looking at the basic assumptions of good these institutions supposably do.


and that's how SATAN works.

He is a deceiver and so many people are being lied to that going to these meetings, taking minutes, doing community service, saying pledges and etc. are for the good of the community.

WE ARE ALL BEING LIED TO
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Those damn imaginary demons, out to ruin everybody's good time

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